This video is a jewel and only 14,000 hits as I write this. The viewer can watch the video and identify with one form of humanity or another. Buckley was the son of a very rich NYC banker and arch-conservative, and Ginsberg, a NJ school teacher. Shows how we all look at life in different ways. I'll bet Ginsberg is remembered a lot longer than Buckley.
Buckley was light years ahead of current commentators, he actually listened to his guests. You can see him doing his best to try to understand Allen. Two great thinkers sharing a stage, when and where do we get that these days?
Both were inquisitive. Both published in me, so I should know. FYI, Soybeans, his actual first name was "William", not "Smug"......smug was just a nickname.
@soyfriends Buckley did more than anyone else to keep intelligent conversation alive on American television. And he wasn't afraid to put on people he disagreed with, like Noam Chomsky. Unfortunately he also did probably more than anyone else to put Reagan in the White House. So you can take your pick...
i love many forms of art martial through to music also i also love philosophy and many obscure forms of expression but for me this was just a average poem with no real sense of point or mastery i don't mean any offense just my opinion
@Davconn62 i have no problem with topics of incest or rape or other normally depraved topics... Euripides, and other anciant greek tragedies by the great dramatists or tragedians wrote absolutely masterful plays, with powerful life lessons and moving emotionalism... They endured for millenias and formed the basis of our great Western literature.
But to compare that with the scriblings of this swarthy hack, is simply insane. There's no other word for it. Ginsberg? compared to Euripides!? stfu
Ginsberg was a wretched degenerate who in a healthy society would have been nothing more than a hobo... alas he was active in the lost years of the 60's and 70's- when america went insane
@FungusMossGnosis no one but left wing burnouts, and pseudosophisticated thowback ex-hippies could see this man as anything other than a fraud (perhaps not a conscious one). For god's sake he made a poem about actually defecating on his mother... and then raping a young boy... if at least there was some skill and adeptness in his dreck... its completely artless, lowly and crude.
In this world of increasing goverment regimentation and socialism and uglyness... im afraid you're the pig in shit
@lictor313 That Ginsberg is now part of the canon proves his talent & influence. I agree some of his poems were tasteless, (& esp some later ones, artless /less than just 'uncooked'),he prob saw it as confronting staid society, & so 'necessary'; "a kick in the crotch!"
Beats led to the hippies,activism,progressive rock music,in their time they were necessary.They did some good things,opened doors (maybe not all good).
"Left wing burnouts ..govt reg...socialism" makes you sound biased
@marmas58ink they opened doors indeed... leading to increased dispossession and degeneracy. The 60 and 70's were a lost generation... and the hippies and other human detritus of that period where the worst generation of americans.
Some poets like Ginsberg are so naive about being able to impact with their poetry someone who isn't predisposed to listen. Just look at Buckley, hes completely closed off.
@ctk777 Yes, but I don't see what that has to do with his poetry. Phil Spector is a psychopath and murderer but he made amazing music, especially with the Ramones.
All of his poems are great. the man is talented. Some people get bitter about it I guess becuase all of their poems start with "roses are red, violets are blue"
@stonedforevor With all due respect, you sound bitter yourself. People do have a right to disagree. Your last sentence was awful cheap shot.In case it matters, I liked the poems he read on Mr. Buckley's show. For what it's worth.
All of his poems are great the man is talented. Some people get bitter about it I guess becuase all of their poems start with "roses are red, violets are blue"
@xsweetgirl101 im xsweetgirl101.......i never made this comment ..... ON GINSBERG i dont even know who he is. why do you have my screen name....????????????
Love Ginsberg, but don't like his voice that much. I'm not hating, would just rather hear Ferlinghetti.
treid100182 1 day ago
"kaddish","howl" and "sphincter"
IwontConform 3 weeks ago
"Why don't I read you a poem. A legal poem."
"Do you have one?"
Genius.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
Why did the beats love the word "exquisite" so much?
MightyAlz 1 month ago
What is the name of this poem?
michaelpietrobon 2 months ago
This reflects a time when conservative pundits were intelligent.
sugarfreelemonade 2 months ago 3
@sugarfreelemonade All political pundits were more well spoken, as well as journalists and news anchors.
ronrutherford 2 months ago
Wish Buckley would have interviewed Henry Miller. That would would've been a great show!!
bluevalentine9 2 months ago
I think Buckley was in love.
Pundit2k 3 months ago
Garbage. I guess it got him laid.
lousinup 3 months ago
I LOVE THE INTERVIEWER'S VOICE LOL!
celestea911 3 months ago
Great video. Best of all is when tight ass Buckley says at the end "I like that."
He may have been a pompous ass, which he was. But at least he was smart enough and independent enough to advocate legalizing weed.
DNAblues 3 months ago
This video is a jewel and only 14,000 hits as I write this. The viewer can watch the video and identify with one form of humanity or another. Buckley was the son of a very rich NYC banker and arch-conservative, and Ginsberg, a NJ school teacher. Shows how we all look at life in different ways. I'll bet Ginsberg is remembered a lot longer than Buckley.
aristopus 4 months ago
@aristopus They're both getting to be pretty much forgotten, relics of a long-gone age.
AllBobsAllTheTime 5 days ago
So I just watched some bisexual porn (MMF style) and everything seems gay, especially buckley
SUpersaiyajinjerkbag 4 months ago
buckley was trying to make ginsberg look foolish. what a tool.
AhYaOk 4 months ago
Buckley seems like a snobbish sob.
goleador1990 4 months ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
"Hot fucking cocksucking two-timing bitch,
Mama's in the kitchen cooking red-hot shit,
Father's in hell, and brother's in jail,
Sister's on the corner yelling, "Pussy for sale!"
Fuckin' A.
Thank you.
g17y5wb 5 months ago
What poem is this?
mcflygirl1977 5 months ago
@mcflygirl1977 The poem is "Wales Visitation.
seancon007 5 months ago
Are you sure that was Allen Ginsberg and not an Andy Kauffman bit?
acr08807 6 months ago
Buckley was light years ahead of current commentators, he actually listened to his guests. You can see him doing his best to try to understand Allen. Two great thinkers sharing a stage, when and where do we get that these days?
spd13062 6 months ago 3
"I kinda like that"
:|
t3hlazy1 6 months ago 2
Also, I love how Chomsky destroyed his arguments.
soyfriends 6 months ago
Both were inquisitive. Both published in me, so I should know. FYI, Soybeans, his actual first name was "William", not "Smug"......smug was just a nickname.
AtlantisMonthly 6 months ago
Antlantitis, I consider him smug, nickname or not, inquisitive or not, that's what I think.
Also, I had no idea he even had a nickname, but, if anything, it'd make sense it would be smug.
soyfriends 6 months ago
One of his greatest poems, actually...
ivelosthewilltolive 6 months ago
Smug Buckley. What are you today, compared to Ginsberg!
soyfriends 6 months ago
@soyfriends Umm, well they're both dead, but other than that...
ivelosthewilltolive 6 months ago
@ivelosthewilltolive
heheheh, not in that sense. In the sense of reputation, or how the myth of someone lives on.
I rarely hear about this buckley. While Ginsberg is a legend.
soyfriends 6 months ago
@soyfriends Buckley did more than anyone else to keep intelligent conversation alive on American television. And he wasn't afraid to put on people he disagreed with, like Noam Chomsky. Unfortunately he also did probably more than anyone else to put Reagan in the White House. So you can take your pick...
ivelosthewilltolive 6 months ago
@soyfriends dead just like Ginsberg
scarbadk 6 months ago
@scarbadk ummm..... yessss.... thanks for the information hahahahah.
soyfriends 6 months ago
i love many forms of art martial through to music also i also love philosophy and many obscure forms of expression but for me this was just a average poem with no real sense of point or mastery i don't mean any offense just my opinion
upwiththewolves 6 months ago
ginsberg went on a political show and without one argument, proved his point better than any debater or political insider. a gem of a man.
chasbo13 6 months ago
Nice to see him reading one of his best poems in a tv show.
ManilaSyndicate 7 months ago
@Davconn62 i have no problem with topics of incest or rape or other normally depraved topics... Euripides, and other anciant greek tragedies by the great dramatists or tragedians wrote absolutely masterful plays, with powerful life lessons and moving emotionalism... They endured for millenias and formed the basis of our great Western literature.
But to compare that with the scriblings of this swarthy hack, is simply insane. There's no other word for it. Ginsberg? compared to Euripides!? stfu
lictor313 7 months ago
Ginsberg was a wretched degenerate who in a healthy society would have been nothing more than a hobo... alas he was active in the lost years of the 60's and 70's- when america went insane
lictor313 8 months ago
@lictor313
The society that is insane would be the one that thinks of an Alan Ginsberg as nothing but a bum.
That's fairly close to the society we have at present.
You must be a pig in shit these days, you racist moron.
FungusMossGnosis 8 months ago 10
@FungusMossGnosis no one but left wing burnouts, and pseudosophisticated thowback ex-hippies could see this man as anything other than a fraud (perhaps not a conscious one). For god's sake he made a poem about actually defecating on his mother... and then raping a young boy... if at least there was some skill and adeptness in his dreck... its completely artless, lowly and crude.
In this world of increasing goverment regimentation and socialism and uglyness... im afraid you're the pig in shit
lictor313 8 months ago
@lictor313 That Ginsberg is now part of the canon proves his talent & influence. I agree some of his poems were tasteless, (& esp some later ones, artless /less than just 'uncooked'),he prob saw it as confronting staid society, & so 'necessary'; "a kick in the crotch!"
Beats led to the hippies,activism,progressive rock music,in their time they were necessary.They did some good things,opened doors (maybe not all good).
"Left wing burnouts ..govt reg...socialism" makes you sound biased
marmas58ink 2 months ago
@marmas58ink they opened doors indeed... leading to increased dispossession and degeneracy. The 60 and 70's were a lost generation... and the hippies and other human detritus of that period where the worst generation of americans.
lictor313 2 months ago
It's so third rate.
OneBigRetard 8 months ago
Some poets like Ginsberg are so naive about being able to impact with their poetry someone who isn't predisposed to listen. Just look at Buckley, hes completely closed off.
jqtcc 9 months ago
Ginsberg was a Nambla supporter.
ctk777 10 months ago
@ctk777 Yes, but I don't see what that has to do with his poetry. Phil Spector is a psychopath and murderer but he made amazing music, especially with the Ramones.
promisedeyes 8 months ago
Amazing poet. Kaddish is masterpiece
Salvac88 10 months ago
Brilliant.
promisedeyes 10 months ago
xsweetgirl101 who commented on this how is it that you have the same screen name as me????? who are you
xsweetgirl101 10 months ago
All of his poems are great. the man is talented. Some people get bitter about it I guess becuase all of their poems start with "roses are red, violets are blue"
stonedforevor 1 year ago 10
@stonedforevor With all due respect, you sound bitter yourself. People do have a right to disagree. Your last sentence was awful cheap shot.In case it matters, I liked the poems he read on Mr. Buckley's show. For what it's worth.
cwcwful 1 month ago
All of his poems are great the man is talented. Some people get bitter about it I guess becuase all of their poems start with "roses are red, violets are blue"
stonedforevor 1 year ago
Buckley's internal dialogue:
"I shall ask him for a tab after the taping."
bobbygnosis 1 year ago
@bobbygnosis
Lol'd.
WSWarthog 11 months ago
@EdMahoney19 "i saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked" enough said
joes2250 1 year ago
Ginsberg is not a freak. He is one of the best poets since Walt. Personally though, I prefer Bukowski.
xsweetgirl101 1 year ago
@xsweetgirl101 im xsweetgirl101.......i never made this comment ..... ON GINSBERG i dont even know who he is. why do you have my screen name....????????????
xsweetgirl101 10 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Ginsberg is a freak. Howl was crap. However, what he produced here was exceptional writing. He should have used more LSD when he wrote his verses.
EdMahoney19 1 year ago