TSL4 - WF - Mr-R (Marth) vs Kaos (MK) [1]

[shadowXtremist]

mr r is the best marth,but gluttony is the best wario u_u

[Zask1000000000000]

Is this music name?

[goldandsilverman]

mr.r is so good. he makes well known mk's look like nothing.

[Amaranthine69]

That grab release at 1:54, did he use 2 forward B's then up smash or what was that second hit?

[ScareMl]

@Amaranthine69 it was side-b, first hit of n-air, then u-smash

[DTLandDTD]

i really dont understand why everyone seems to be impressed by mr r i mean sure some of his stuff is pretty good but a lot of the playing was pretty average and whats the point of challenging players that are weaker than you that doesnt really show skill

[Ariphilus]

@DTLandDTD Well, Kaos IS one of the best MK's in Europe...and this is a big tournament match...not that many options left for challenging better players XP

[GreatSageGenesis]

@DTLandDTD You forgot the part where Mr. R is arguably the best Marth on the tournament scene today. Not much left to challenge him at that point.

[ZubuZux]

@DTLandDTD Mr. R is the best in Europe. it could be average for him. Not for us. This is a pretty good Marth.

[GoldenYoshiKing23]

Why IN THE WORLD DIDN'T MR.R CONTINUE TO PLAY LIKE THIS WHY I DONT UNDERSTAND WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CARES ABOUT THE NEW METAGAME MY ass I still play yoshi's old metagame and don't care about the new one

[manoelantoniojunior]

Amazing match Mr.r! But, why no tornado?

[ssbmsmashspam]

Kaos is actually very good, Mr. R is just Ken level. The levels of DI that they had were just amazing :D.

[GuViPo]

1:55 EPIC COMBO!!! O.O

[soulforged789]

Wowwwww..... :O

[IpwnzoreU]

for the first 40 seconds I thought this was a perfect marth TAS

[ECDLetsPlays]

Mr. R is good

[sexfidel69]

its a CV trailer?

[Luxuryball]

Mr. R doesn't do it in this video, but I notice him and a lot of other Marth players do this thing where they start dashing in one direction and then suddenly change direction without the startup dash appearing for when they switch.

Any idea on how to do that?

[SyonRyoken]

@Luxuryball every character can do it. its called dash dance pivot. its -> wait a bit then -> <- . you can reverse the directions obviously and continue it back and forth.

[sasuke9824]

@Luxuryball do you mean dash dance?

where they do that weird dash to boths sides thing?

[SuperSuperjudge]

amazing play by mr r. but u can tell kaos is messing up quite a bit.

[DjSander100]

I think Kaos is better now

[Rubberbandman1991]

Flagging this vid for sexual content.

[BigKaKoKA]

OH MY GOD TALES OF VESPERIA

[DaveSuckerslam]

at 3:18 mk says ' a pinapple' lol

[daKIDgamer]

faved for rape.

[pokemon12445]

wats up mr.r one of my youtube friends told me u were a good marth after he saw my marth videos so if u have online ssbb im calling u out lol but seriously i wanna brawl against u so if u do have online inbox me ur friend code and ill inbox u mine

[gonsasuke]

Alalala Joublierais jamais ce match xD, c'est grace a celui ci que je me suis mis a brawl XDDDD

[Zexyzex24]

Wtf he is rape.Favorite marth of all time.

[nick30075]

Have to love that last kill.

[BraydonSzafranski]

Is Marth's counter banned in tourneys? I understand that it is easily punishable, but there were a few instances in this match where it would have been perfect.

[Sychera]

@BraydonSzafranski Why would a predictable and punishable move like counter be banned?

[secretagentarkane]

mr. r spacing is amazing!

[holycrap349]

ramin, you know that you are great do you?^^

i would love o face you at berlin is brawling , are you coming?

[Variuhble]

So many great combo and pivot grabs here. Great match... It would have been godly if you would have gotten the gimp at 2:23 - 2:26 though.

[evoasassin77]

THE COMBOS OMFG

-Anti

[dynomite31]

I orgasmed

[falzarxgregar]

Holy crap. Mr.R is BEAST

[TH3Z3R0H0UR]

damn i was hoping for a JB 3 stock... good shit R

[dingdoy]

The grab at 1:51 is the sickest grab release combo I've ever seen.

[master31234]

holy DI

[ivancito7790]

nice fight, you know, after watching this i may just get into brawl again... nice to see thge competitive community pulling back together.. i never really liked brawl that much, i disliked the slow, floaty playing style, but after seeing a solid marth user (i was a marth user back in melee) i may just get back into it...

also 3 things:

1. whats with marths costume?

2. whats with the song?

3. is this the japanese version of the game?

[MegaBeanz]

LOL that is not a solid amrth wtf

[Ramin249]

Why's that :o

[MegaBeanz]

Because half ur gimicky shit wouldnt work in the US, lol!

[Ramin249]

thats what you think ;D

[MegaBeanz]

Nope, here in NY / NJ, good Metaknights don't air dodge into the ground, and understand how to get out of gimicky shit like that!

[dingdoy]

@MegaBeanz So you can move, grab, tech, and combo better right?

[MegaBeanz]

@dingdoy Probably. I'm sure I would rape the Peach he loses to as well. :)

[Ramin249]

@MegaBeanz lol ur getting quite annoying xD

[MegaBeanz]

well your fucking shitty european meat riders who suck BALLS are quite annoying

go get cancer

[Ramin249]

@MegaBeanz hey wait a minute , * looks at smashboards thread then looks back here *

Megabeanz

Megavitamens...

OOOOH everything makes sense now!

UR THE SAME PERSON LMFAO that btw doesn't have any vids at all, so that people cant judge him like he is judging me now LOL

also its funny u said, ''go get cancer'' we dutch people actually use that as a curse word :$

[MegaBeanz]

what???

[Wh33z]

1. texture hacks

2. music hacks

3. yes.

[koolio67890]

@ivancito7790 1. its a texture hack 2. also a hack 3. i think it might be french...actually i think ill pass on this question X.X

[GCLU]

@ivancito7790

1. texture hack

2. music hack (both of these through homebrew channel)

3. European version.

[ScizorTheOverlord]

@GCLU MK does make the OOWAAAHH!!!! sound in the Japanese version though

[diegot143]

the best marths are great grabbers

[soulgem199]

Mr.r respect +10

[kingkid47]

what's the name of the song?

[l2easgt89o]

Never surrender. It's one of the battle themes from Tales of the Abyss.

[XSharinganTobiX]

1:53

Maybe there are combos

[KaosFR]

Actually it doesn't work, you can simply jump dair after the side-b :/

[Ramin249]

LOL AND YET U FELL FOR IT HAHAHA

[TheIeven]

@XSharinganTobiX Now we know that it is not a combo :'( 

[MTKL17]

1:53 Marth can RAPES Metaknight

[FavreandMariofan]

Mr-R gave Kaos the dick

[Ramin249]

ppl really underrate kaos because of this match

[hdrevolution123]

kudos to mr r then.

[KaosFR]

Only benefits, I win the set and get easy MMs, what else

[Ramin249]

u deserve more cred >.>

[Kryp6]

@Ramin249 By how much you beat him, it should not be a surprise.

People have bad games though.

[Kerra1992aap]

@Ramin249 I know that Kaos is a really good player but Mr.R you was insane in this match

[endgamer617]

my lord. Netherlands needs to come out to pound4.

After watching this all I have to ask is... Who the fuck is mikeHaze? lmao

[wwwilliam0024]

hahahaha INDEED! xD

[MysteryTigerTeen]

This is the best Marth player I have ever seen :D

[yomamma1900]

im sorry but dis guy iz da best marth ive eva seen yo, hey nyone of u guys wanna brawl?

[bugn]

anyone know what song this is or what it is from?

[OverlordFayt]

tales of the abyss, it's one of the battle songs.

[tyranitar007]

this proves that marth is still as good as he was in melee.

[xx0Rain0xx]

lolwrong. And why are you referring to Melee in past tense?

[tyranitar007]

um, it's called an opinion. Some say that he got nerfed, but I still think marth hasn't lost his shine.

[xx0Rain0xx]

Lol Don't say "this proves that" and then turn around and bullshit me with "hey, it's my opinion.".

[tyranitar007]

it's an opinion, dude. What if I say it like this: In my opinion this match proved that Marth still hasn't lost his touch.

It's the same.

[xx0Rain0xx]

Or you could just say "This match makes me think Marth is still top of the food chain"

Or you could just not say anything at all because it's wrong.

[tyranitar007]

um, smashwiki itself stated that Marth both has been buffed and nerfed, which makes me think players could choose him being buffed or nerfed. I played both melee and Brawl, and Marth is still king. I main him, so I know what Im talking about.

[xx0Rain0xx]

I do, too.

[5TAILEDNARUTO]

I would love to fight Mr.R so I could finally have somebody worthy to fight.

[RenjiAbarai17]

What's the name of this song?

[Tarextherex]

Nice Marth, he plays like jap ones

[Zeroforce14]

Wow, Awesome Match! : )

[Never1924]

1:51- 1:56 what exactly did he do..?

[anmax]

dancing blade 1> grab release>

dancing blade 1> nair >upsmash

[Never1924]

tyvm

[basvhout]

almost...

Dancing blade 1>Nair>Fasfall>Upsmash ;)

[anmax]

thx, I was doing it wrong coz i forgot the fast fall xD

[basvhout]

haha i had the same problem ;) Ramin told me, It's still pretty hard to perform it Unescapable... but if you get it right it's so good.

[xGracefulAssassinx]

whats the name of the song?

[Rydlesmash]

What is the name of this song?????

[nwggLev]

very nice marth

[10marris10]

sorry, what's the name of this song?

[marcbribrawl]

its brawl, brawl+ is garbage , I woudln't have gone to this to play that xD

[xx0Rain0xx]

Brawl+ is just as bad as Brawl lol

[xxMTOxx]

I saw MK use the tornado twice the entire match. Why not use the hell out of that move?

[anvilsnare]

If im wrong, im wrong and ill admit it. I just think it looks and awful lot like B+......for which i was excited =(

[SyonRyoken]

yeah man this is normal Brawl.. maybe u need to play that one more.

[anvilsnare]

You CANNOT do 0:50 in vBrawl. You cannot do it.

Im not saying its difficult or anything like that. Im saying in generic, store bought, right out of the freakin box, Brawl, you CAN NOT dash dance.

[SmashTournoi]

It is normal Brawl, or "vBrawl" as you call it.

[ShortPers0n]

Oh my god, do you want me to make a video of me DDing in brawl? It's easy.

[Jolly2Lolly]

yes you actually can dash dance, just in a shorter way, but you can

[Toya3816]

Next time you play try moving the stick back and forth a lot faster than you do for dash dancing in melee. If you have fast hands you can DD : ).

[Calvo819]

@anvilsnare >.> yeah you can dash dance in vanilla brawl. if you can't do it, to quote sonic, "HERP DERP, YOURE TOO SLOW"

[Kukzzzz]

@anvilsnare He didnt dash dance, he fox-trotted

[ScizorTheOverlord]

@anvilsnare I can

[grimie22]

@anvilsnare yes you can. only for a very limited time. its not hard -_-

[Kryp6]

@anvilsnare Troll?

Or... super the noob?

[CircleSquareTriangIe]

@anvilsnare You can dash dance the frames are just much smaller

[SphincterBoyJenkins]

WTF FIRST STOCK HOLY SHIT

[Ramzehz]

Also, more proof. You can obviously hear the Japanese voices. As far as I know, Balanced Brawl hasn't been ported to Japan yet.

[anvilsnare]

If its not Brawl+ its got to be Balanced Brawl, all i know is, this isnt vBrawl.

[Ramzehz]

This is vBrawl, The Super Lyion 4 tournament. Just with custom music and textures.

[Cheapsta121]

Great marth, pooly skilled MK

This is obviously vBrawl.

Short is either an idiot or a troll.

[ShortPers0n]

How am I an idiot? I was trying to tell anvilsnare that this is obviously vBrawl. This is not Brawl+

[ratedcallate]

stop dickriding the americans, instead say if the marth is good or not. also the Marth is pretty good , for me is like the 2nd best marth I have seen by now. 1st M.haze.

[TeeKayDee]

Everyone's a critic all of a sudden. I'm sure they wouldn't play exactly the same against everyone else. Would I do things that only work against certain players that don't know a match-up? OF COURSE. It's a tournament. Maybe players from europe are actually good now. They were only worse because the game came out later there. Mike is a good player, but I don't think he's at the level people should aspire to reach yet. Slow learner.

Also, I think the people criticizing aren't even top players.

[takeover1806]

what song is that?? very nice

[bloteshame]

1:54 that was soooo good

[hdrevolution123]

Holy holy shit! That shit was awesome! How did he do that! He pretty much has the whole MK matchup taken care of there in which he attacked Kaos like a true spacer and predicted him so he didn't get comboed himself! Oh I so wanna have a Marth like his!

[Zamakuso]

u move fast

[ChaosXmarth]

Ok, I'ma give Kaos the benefit of the doubt because I'm sure he wasn't thinking too well in this match, and its pretty obvious. I'm sure hes a much better player then the video showed.(We all have bad days amirite?) and he still won the set. Mr-R is good, but he wouldn't get away with gimmics like that here. Even though I love his playstyle Neo and haze are proven better and until mr-r proves himself you really can't say he's better.

[Falcova15]

proven themselves how?

If european players have o go to america to prove themselves why don't americans come here to prove themselves. Afterall you can't claim being best in the world if you haven't played the major regions.

[basvhout]

It's kinda hard to prove yourself when ur playing european brawl. if you check out tournaments in the US there are way more players and more tournaments... So I think you can't compare these marths... Cause everyone knows the best players in the US. But that doesn't mean that they are the best. I would really like to see haze and neo come to europe to REALLY prove themselfs outside the states. Cuz the US is not the whole world.

[Kobebryantclone]

wow i remember Mr-r from his fights with boxingking. his marth has become so manly! why are people comparing mr-r to mike?i think they are at the same skill level ..its true mike fights m2k ally ext.. but mr-r cant do that because he is from europe. so no johns.. mr-r rapes.. and he is the best :).

[KamuiRyu88]

Marth =/= manly son xd

[Pierce7d]

People are being really silly. It's quite obvious that the Marth is exceptionally talented and the MK is bad. I mean, to propose that MK is dropping in power is silly. A) That's clearly not a good MK. B) Are you suggesting MK gets hard countered by Marth because Mr. R won 2 stock low %?

Let's get serious. Whether or not Mr. R is better than MikeHaze is yet to be seen, because Mike fights opponent's of greater caliber. Mr. R does stuff that would not work on top American MKs, but he's good.

[KaosFR]

If I ever go to the US and we meet at the same tourney, I'd mm you 50$, and since I'm clearly not a good MK, you'd accept ofc.

Don't judge me on that single match in which I played retardly. I won after all.

[Pierce7d]

Replying in a PM

[AdumbroDeus]

Pierce7d is probably not the best choice to call out on this.

Take it as a measure of your performance during this particular match (which you admit isn't particularly good) and direct people to your other matches to prove your skill.

Because honestly, whether or not you're generally a good MK isn't really the conversation, people are saying that the match-up is even because Roy-R did that to you, and the reason that happened is because you played badly this match, whatever the reason.

[marcbribrawl]

I'd put a sidebet on Kaos winning

[kingkid47]

tasty texture

[AuronDSS]

1:54 ===>1:58 EPIC xD

Putain Kaos ta déguster mec xDD

[XxRaimundoxX]

Also, not a single smash. Good shit.

[D4rkounet]

1:57

=p

[XxRaimundoxX]

-_- this only shows that MK is overused and that we are evolving. MK WILL drop in tiers as we evolve even more.

[linkmus]

That all because of one match.

Come on.

[DOGMA7275]

uhhhhhhh

1:50-1:59

good gimmick but that mk is retarted to get hit by that

first hit nair gives u about3 frame adv

u smash for marth is 12 frames

that mk is rly slow

but decent marth none the less

[Ramin249]

what do u suppose the mk should have done then?, cuz i did that move like 4/5 times and he didnt escape it once

[KaosFR]

man, you are the retard

[umbra436]

The frame advantage after tipper first hit nair (SHFF) is actually 19 according to marth boards frame data.

[HaZeEurope91]

slow mk and decent marth? do you have brain disorders?

[Jupitec]

Ramin is teh sex....

[skyace89]

JESUS 1:50-1:59

[yousuckatlyfe]

I'm a melee player, and uhh.

1:50 was pretty amazing. Sorry.

[Satpaaplads]

1:52-1:57 Oh my god ._.' That's fucking sick

[KaosFR]

And you can't even avoid it D:

[DOGMA7275]

your right if its brawl +

[Falcova15]

brawl+ sucks.

[ShortPers0n]

This isn't Brawl+

[anvilsnare]

Really? i didnt know you could dash dance in vBrawl.....oh wait....you cant. And if you watch, at 0:50, Mr. R clearly dash dances.

[ShortPers0n]

Dash dancing is possible in vBrawl. The difference is that you can't dash as far before turning around.

Watch 1:30. Marth dairs into the stage, but there is a lot of landing lag. In Brawl+, it auto cancels much more faster.

Another proof is at 1:44. Marth uses Dolphin Slash & auto grabs the ledge. The auto grabbing factor is removed in Brawl+.

[ShortPers0n]

Another proof is at 1:55. Marth uses Up Smash & sweet spots Meta Knight. In regular Brawl, sweet spots delay for a split second before launching the opponent. In Brawl+, that has been removed.

[ShortPers0n]

Another proof is at 2:27.

When Marth is launched into the air by MK's Down Smash, Marth was able to attempt a momentum cancel. In Brawl+, the hit stun is far longer, therefore it is impossible to momentum cancel at such a high %.

[deoxys03]

nah thts tht reverse pivot rush or watever the name is but you can use ne thng out of it

[ShortPers0n]

For which one?

[affinity2412]

daaaaammmmmn

[zomgitsMooMoo]

1:50 was absolutely beast. o_o

[BOXINGKING1988]

Very nice.. how the heck did you lose overall?That marth is too good. My top 3 players from the superlion that i enjoyed watching is ramin,zudenka and Marcbri. You 3 play with alot of skill! As for ramin... maybe he is a supersayin after all!Congrats to kaos you won bushido 8 and now this :),

[Ramin249]

damm i was on fire this match

[ImTokeTopo]

Mr R Combo !

[KaosFR]

damn i got raped 1st match lol

[Trio3s]

U suck Ramin, JK thats some awsome shiz u got going im gonna copy obviously.