Obama / McCain - Idealism vs Realism? Goldberg / Beinart Debate

[spankula123]

Where is this guy? Did the liberals have him killed? I haven't seen him in years.

[thesparitan]

so you lied, ok well thanks for being honest but try not to lie next time.

[thesparitan]

ok so where do you live. I have a cousin that works as a screenwriter in Hollywood, California. where do you live I can ask him if he knows or heard of you. whats your address, dont worry I wont hurt you, you look like you can handle and gun, and I am a total wimp. What kind of cars do you own and what do you do. You said you own all of those consumer items. And how big is your mansion, by square feet. You wanted to tell everyone so I am sure you want to show it off, prove it.

[thesparitan]

specialforces69

only in your very deluded mind do you have all those things.

[jblive1985]

mcain is not for small gov ron paul was the only person for real change im saying that nn im blk its not about race its about liberty vs tranny

[jblive1985]

thats just racist man i understand ur arugument but u dont help by resorting to small minded words like that

[jblive1985]

RON PAUL

[arkadyka]

one of the most brilliant columnists of our time.

[TheLegalImmigrant05]

I agree. Jonah + Thomas Sowell make a formidable team.

Liberal Fascism and The Vision of the Annointed are the most important books I have read recently. Along with Atlas Shrugged, these 3 should be recommended reading in every school in the US.

[thesparitan]

yeah right right ok

thats a little crazy.

[taosimplicity]

@arkadyka, by who's standards is he the most brlliant columnists of our time? He's actually one of the most debunked author of our time. I guess that's something .

[SongSubtitles]

Where's Peter Beinhart's response? How about a little give and take here?

[JohnDeBunkTest]

specialforces69 is one of the reasons that other countries laugh at the idiot Americans.

There are plenty of Canadians who visit LA, find one and talk to them, you might learn something about the world beyond your border.

[JohnDeBunkTest]

If you are that full of hate,

and totally lack the intellect to think

then you have no hope.

Enjoy your trailer, and hope you never need help.

Meanwhile, to see Sarah Palin at her finest check out her conversation with the French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

Nicolas: I must say, Governor Palin, I love the documentary they made on your life, you know, 'ustlers "Nailin Palin."

Sarah Palin: Oh, good, thank you. Yes.

Nicolas: That was really edgy.

Sarah Palin: [Laughs] Well good.

[gmakepiece]

Starcatcher888 Ya right freerepublic com danielpipes org therealcuba com hfontova com drsanity blogspot com obamacrimes com thepeoplescube com colonelrobertneville blogspot com shoebat com dissectleft blogspot com jihadwatch org faithfreedom org americancongressfortruth com thereligionofpeace com theprophetofdoom net Brucebawercom islammonitor org nctc gov ajacksonian blogspot com brusselsjournal com gatesofvienna blogspot com melaniephillips com militantislammonitor org stophonourkillings com

[JohnDeBunkTest]

we feel the hatred ooozing from you starcatcher.

[JohnDeBunkTest]

I sent you the proof this was a bunch of lies.

f off starcatcher888.

[JohnDeBunkTest]

You best ask Canadians how they feel about their universal health care system.

... 100% in favor. The Canadian system is never going back to a for profit scam like the USA has.

Think of it, the USA is getting beaten on health care quality and coverage by third world countries.

[JohnDeBunkTest]

Obama wants to return the tax system to where it was when America was prosperous, and move the health system towards what works so well in other countries.

McCain wants to keep giving more and more to the ultra rich, so people can be rich and GREEDY.

What sort of America do you want?

[aznsowhat]

starcatcher888, your purpose is clear: You are only trying to find ways to demean Obama in any way possible even without proof. Enough with your elementary antics. Stop alienating and start researching with a credible source and use your brain.

[Whassa12]

Like so many other actively ignorant critics of helping one another out he has the same "I got mine screw the rest," idea.

[jjkuo]

I like this guy. He's putting together an interesting synthesis. That said:

He says that Obama is (ideallistically) trying to address broad universal issues, while McCain is (realistically) trying to address pragmatic America-specific issues.

With that in mind, what broad universal issues are not the most critical big stroke America-specific issues as well?

No trolls please. It's more fun when we're nice to each other!

[rorylol]

Well the problem is not just the goverment, in fact the whole way of thinking in america needs to be changed.

The "more is better" idea is what is dragging this great nation down, if america keeps consuming more than it produces the foregin debt will eventually break europes greatest ally.

I, as a European, am very saddned by the current state of the U.S. and I will support (as will many others in europe) any radical changes the american people are trying to make.

[kopi3nnn]

Jonah Goldberg needs to shut up and go suck on a salty pickle....hmmmmm, piiiickles...!

[stuffisgd]

he couldnt be more wrong.

[iantryan]

This guy's arguments are weak and irrelevant. What a shmuck.

[mln9898]

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis (1935)

[mln9898]

wow this guy is not too bright. As long as people feel alienated by their government because of the failed economy and redistribution of wealth to the very rich and struggling economically, they will be more eager to join these movements that challenge the stability of the country and conspire to revolt. He's so blind to the real fascists that have been written about for many years as a threat, and Bush just moved us closer.

[mln9898]

ya because he's really telling people what spiritual beliefs to hold.... lol telling people to have hope as we're entering a great depression, and that he'll work to turn things around is soooo unreasonable and utopian. Ya maybe we should just continue on with the same Bush admin agenda and go with Mccain.

[EverettsVLOG]

you better not change the course of fora tv just b/c people complain on the comments when they hear something they dont agree with... that said, this guys a little nutty

[ferrozm]

obama is not an idealist.

[pkaneiv]

he is a socialist

[showmelight]

"They say the problem is America, not the Government."

...What planet is this guy from?

[jakob0815]

stupid.

[newmanfrigan]

Americas favorite doughy pantload, Jonah Goldberg.

[krca21]

You are speaking of an ideal situation in equalities of result. Unfortunately that is not the situation today as big corporations and banks lie and make risky investments to get more money on the backs of innocent tax payers and lower class workers. This is what in america needs to be fixed. And this is what Obama recognizes as wrong.

[krca21]

inequalities* wake up and join reality dude

[overmind25]

No Obama supported the bail out but I agree with the rest of your statment.

[makeyanoticeme]

Care to site?

[tobyw87]

Proof?

[alltherestaretaken]

Wow. starcatcher, how is that middle school education holding out? Good? Thank God most Americans can do research at a highschool or *gasp* college level to determine you are full of shit.