Cold Steel Hand-and-a-Half-Sword

[Anathar88]

You guys at Cold Steel are being cheap with most of your swords. You thread your pommels instead of peening them. I can't begin to describe how annoying that is. I can understand WHY you did it, but come on! Peening is the way to go, and that would make your swords totally worth 500-600 bucks.

ALL TRUE SWORDS are either peened or have a full tang integration with the handle.

Anything other than that is not worth my time and money.

[161194]

slashing those things must feel wonderfull

[Halofreakanoid]

@copypacercopypacer : Skip to 5:30

/watch?v=5Hy_A9vjp_s&list=FLd4­l8STyBr-wPIQVsHwV_MA&index=3

[Halofreakanoid]

@copypacercopypacer : Yes, they are. You can do far more with a European sword like a longsword.

[lasko95]

I wish swords were still someones primary weapon, I mean guns are accurate and all but mostly its just aim and fire. Now with a sword you need strength, endurance, hand eye co-ordination, and skills in stances, parrying and knocking your opponents weapon away from you. Hand-and-half great for speed and also able to switch to two hand for more powerful swipes.

[weirdloser42]

Great Sword or Half and Half.... SO HARD TO CHOOSE

Sorta having 2nd thoughts about Great sword because of that Tosh.0 thing

but someone said its staged but im not sure.

[CookieMMMonster]

@copypacercopypacer European swords are generally inferior to Japanese ones.

[mechupanlamonda]

@CookieMMMonster no, they are not.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda : Yes, they are.

[mechupanlamonda]

@Halofreakanoid inferior in which way? explain yourself and provide evidence, instead of just trolling.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda :

The iron ore that the Japanse used was of lesser quality, and not as strong as the steel Europe used after the 1300s. The Katana has a good cutting blade, but a poor stabbing tip because it is curved and too thick. It is top heavy because of the thickness, and far too hard to swing for such a short two-handed sword. It only has a single edge, which more than halves the amount of techniques you can use with it. The handguard isn't crossed, and looses many binding techniques.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda : If you'd like sources I can provide some.

[mechupanlamonda]

@Halofreakanoid your soruces better not be some manga or anime. i wagger it is some bias video. there no such a thing as a best sword, that concept is stupid. every sword or weapon is good because it serve its purpose. it is a waste of time trying to prove something that simply is not. keep making comments like that, other people will know they are simply fallacious, or irrelevants.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda : It is most certainly not manga or anime. That is very most KATANA tripe comes from. And no there is no best sword. But the fact that the Japanese almost exclusively fought themselves didn't help in designing a actually great sword.

/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc

(He's a historian, archeologist, and medieval era reenactor)

that's one.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda :

/watch?v=5Hy_A9vjp_s&list=FLd4­l8STyBr-wPIQVsHwV_MA&index=3

(skip to 5:30, unless you know german.)

Basically, this man is a master blacksmith and is in multiple martial art groups, including a couple medieval japanese groups. He made the katana out of imported japanese iron ore, like they did historically. As well as making the longsword and broadsword historically.

As another fact not mentioned, a katana weighs as much as a longsword about a foot longer than itself

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda : I could list a few more sources possibly, but these are my recent favorite.

My point is basically that the longsword, and most medieval european swords, can do everything that the katana can do, and more. They are simply and scientifically more versitile, and can still do the same thing that the katana is known for, incredibly clean cuts.

[mechupanlamonda]

@Halofreakanoid ok, i think you misunderstood my post. or maybe i misunderstood yours. but i reply to a guy who said europeans swords were generally inferior to japanese ones, to which i reply that that was not true. correct me if i'm wrong, but you are making a case about the european swords not being inferior? if that's the case then we agree.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda : I think I misunderstood your post, I apologize. I thought that you were replying to the original poster of the convo thread.

[mechupanlamonda]

@Halofreakanoid is, ok. i have to agree with you that there are a lot of evidence about the european sword not being inferior; but agile, versatile, sharp, balance and ligh weapons.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda : Exactly. But there's so much falsities about Japanese weaponry that's created by pop culture and movies. It's so disheartening that people just buy into it and don't actually do any research. A katana at 42 inches is roughly 3 pounds. A Longsword at 48 inches is 2.25-3 pounds. Not to mention you could still use it with one hand if you were big enough/skilled enough. People also misunderstand that razor sharp is razor sharp, whether it's curved or not.

[mechupanlamonda]

@Halofreakanoid true. people use manga and anime as a basis of the katana superiority, without any knowledge whatsoever of history and reality.

[Halofreakanoid]

@mechupanlamonda : Exactly

[Halofreakanoid]

@CookieMMMonster : That's a complete falsity created by generations of superstition and pop culture. Japanese swords like the katana are extremely conservative in design and were made of inferior metals. You can do far more with European swords, and they are far more effective at most things you'd actually need to accomplish on a battlefield.

[Halofreakanoid]

@CookieMMMonster : No, that is the exact opposite of reality. Try learning more about European swords, and you'll realize the truth.

[ClapYourAss]

I like the killer eyes of the fat guy :)

[falcon19978]

thats a real sword right there



[LordAzanko]

looking at this video the first thing that popped into my head was kurgan's sword from highlander

[extragunbon]

Nice aim with the orange. ;)

[bobjoemagee]

If some dude tried to mug me with one of these i'd piss myself

[KingWilli12495]

i kind of miss the old days, todays sanitation mixed with yesterdays honor codes, now that would awesome

[dithyramb956]

could this sword be used as a one handed weapon? possibly with a shield?

[Cecil667]

@dithyramb956

Yeah. I sometimes use a small buckler with it in training. Although i'll admit, the CS version of this sword type is about a pound heavier than the originals, and it'll tire you quickly with one hand. It's really more of a two handed sword, and functions best as such.

[MetalSonic150]

I want this.

[harrison521478]

ok serious question did someone get him new shorts for his birthday? just wondering

[HalfJawArbiter166]

Cool how these swords cut through almost anything as if they were butter.

[Pinstr]

i might be getting this as a graduation gift...tell me how sharp does one come how much can you beat it up till its just no more?

[Pinstr]

i might be getting this as a graduation gift...tell me how sharp does one come

[jakethefreak1]

@1.12 thats how they make toilet rolls

[mikeymarshful]

He may be fat... but he can stab pretty well. when fruits were thrown at him.

[MrRobinMarks]

Do you use the same sword/knife in the entire demo or are you switching it?

[protoryan570]

@copypacercopypacer katana is the sharpest sword if made the way it should be

[NordicDragon117]

@copypacercopypacer YES

[Rikcey]

One quick question,

I read alot about some issues with the Pommel.

Most of the messages date from 2007, but is it still an issue if I would purchase a new one? I don't want to spar with a friend, and see a loose blade doing some weird things and harming him unintended..

Thanks in advance!

Rik

[DragonShadow101]

Cold Steel brings the goods, great sword all and all.

[IamDerpp]

do these swords come this sharp, or do you guys just sharpen them for the videos.

[deckerbraden]

@IamDerpp they come scary sharp

[gunsgg]

Do THAT with a pen!

[divinegod102]

The pommel needs to be longer.

[DarkAspire]

@divinegod102 Do you mean the pommel, or the handle? Also remember it is a hand & half sword, so the length and weight of both should be somewhere between that of a single-handed sword, a two-handed sword. It's not quite a happy medium, but a medium nonetheless.

[skykid]

That sword is such a bastard.

[corpsecorn]

I have a question about maintaining the blade If you use it n tests. I just bought a hunting knife, the blade is about 7 inches long. I have a sharpener that works great, but what can I use to keep the blade from rusting, and or tarnishing? Oil?

[JCHandJobLover]

um....!!1??!!1

[antagonist42]

@copypacercopypacer Only if the user of the swords does not have training with a katana ... which most people don't. People, particularly teenagers, saw G.I. Joe, or some stupid anime as a kid and thought, "wow, that ninja just sliced through a tank with that katana, I bet that could happen in real life!" In reality, the katana was designed for slicing through flesh and light armor— that's about it. It's dangerous to the user more than anyone else, if he or she isn't trained with it.

[copypacercopypacer]

@antagonist42 what about if it was a knight only wearing chain mail and used a rapier or a longsword against an well trained samurai

[antagonist42]

@copypacercopypacer The rapier could easily slip between the samurai's armor pieces; but as long as he got enough force behind the blow, I'd think that the samurai's katana could slice through metal links ... at the cost of a razor-sharp edge, of course.

[NoisemakerArrow]

@antagonist42 No it wouldn't. Chain mail is weak against thrusting attacks but very good against slashing attacks. Wtf would a katana be able to slice through metal links?

Katana plunker.

[antagonist42]

@NoisemakerArrow Put enough force behind it and it will. Katanas have been set up to slice moving bullets in half, and in the tests did not even have the blade break off (though they »did« receive a lot of damage). It »is« possible.

Also, "plunker"? I don't live in London, little boy; your vernacular is useless to me.

[NoisemakerArrow]

@antagonist42 Put enough force behind anything and it will go through anything. Got some evidence of your magical katanas cutting everything, or you were too busy masturbating to katana fetishism to save the links?

Katana plunker.

[TheCharliebro]

@antagonist42 yes but keep in mind that bullets are made of much softer metals than chain mail which was generally made of iron and steel. plus they already tested this on Deadliest Warrior and it didn't work. the katana i mean

[antagonist42]

@TheCharliebro If you managed to slice through chain mail of the aforementioned iron or steel with your katana, I would imagine it would do even worse than it did with the bullet. The bullet both gave the katana all the kinetic energy it needed to slice through, and was made of softer metal.

[Ranziel1]

@copypacercopypacer Rapier and chainmail? Different eras here.

[kaneyoushie]

You have much to learn young grasshopper

[AndyCarnage]

dang, those ribs just slide right off the bone!

this and the claymore gotta be my favs ^-^

[copypacercopypacer]

i'd like to kill zombies with this thing. well if there is a zombie appoculypse

[Banminator]

@copypacercopypacer i just bought their war hammer for the exact purpose of zombie handling.

[AndyCarnage]

@copypacercopypacer not if, when.

[4gfrost]

Sorry that wasn't very nice. I like Dervishes.

[xcyan]

yep watch this video /watch?v=5Hy_A9vjp_s

[stingtnawcw]

i like all of the items you make but are you ever going to make ARMOR

really if you made armor and selled it for

£100-£150 £10 p&p or somthing cheap you would be a million man

[FOETRAIN]

I purchased one of these swords a couple of months ago.

Its very well balanced, even for a person like me who weighs under 11 stone. The edge of the blade is very sharp, passing the 'paper cutting' test with flying colours.

[darthmongoose2]

I heard that there used to be a problem with the hilt on this, has it been fixed?

[TheCrazyAnimater]

lol whats better this or darksword i hear darkswords stuff have amazing quality

[Camua]

Wow! I want this sword! Very very nice indeed!

[gh3master69]

man i wanted to tell you cold steel has changed the way i thinnk of knives....best quality, best crafstmanship, and best overall, thanks coldsteel!

[Rapist87]

Cold Steel make awesome products I own a few myself. One thing I always wondered is do you do all the tests with the same knife/sword?

[athroballs]

Very,Very,Very Nice!!! I am now convinced to actully buy this, BAD ASS

[Indianpojken1]

do you eat that meat later?

[csknives]

Yes we do, well at least I do, but about 90% of it goes to Rescue Missions.

[charlieismystagename]

i've always been curious, why do they hold the blade up to the target they just cut? is it some sort of size comparison or something?

[csknives]

Its to prove that the swords are still in working condition.

[charlieismystagename]

oh okay that makes sense

[mindfreakpro]

THIS is the sword I've been wanting from cold steel. It's a masterpiece. Simply a masterpiece.

[kardentyrell]

the bastard sword, the god damn most versatile sword in history. Man it cuts up many bloody bastards.

[83Boiler83]

I don't understand why cold steel sharp the sword so much

that's totally wrong.

Never sharp a sword too much, during real battles the sword were sharp just a little and are lethal can cut or break bones.

You must not think that win the man with the more sharpen sword.

if you sharp a sword like a razor the edge became delicate and could break and also compromise the durability.

[Goldenglimmer]

Actually, if the durability is questioned, it's not because of the amount of sharpening a sword has retained, it's because of poor manufacturing.

I don't think you really know what you're talking about. Perhaps you ment that the edges are easier to dent when the blade is sharper? True, but the further in on the leaf you get, the more the sharpness fades so it wouldn't make a big difference anyway.

The sharper your sword is, the better (if it's produced like it should be). No one denies that.

[83Boiler83]

This Is a fact...

not my opinion.

this is history!

check everywhere about ancient medieval sword.

in ancient combat the medieval sword was sharpen only at the point and was a sword able to brake bones even under the chainmail.

you can also tell this to someone expert of medieval fight he will say the same thing.

medieval sword was sharpen only on the final part and not like a razor, the rest of the sword was unsharp

[aerodynamicband]

with hand and a half sword combat it was not uncommon for the wielder to grab the blade and hit people in the head with the cross gaurd or the pommel if you don't believe me watch two people duel with them and don't use a holywood movie to disprove me because movies are full of untrue crap

[thisismeplusyou]

The "death blow" I belive is what you're talking about. As far as I know, that move is generally done with leather gloves, or gauntlets. I remember a quote of Ewart Oakeshott saying that one particular antique medieval sword that he handled was "as sharp as a good kitchen knife."

[reinstein7]

ihava shit load of cold steel products, they are hands down themost reliable,best made productsdknow to man... i even do demos with my producst to helpsell them,idoa lot o bizness for csk withouteven trying just for fun...and mani bet lynn thompson could kick some serius buttocks, keep upthe good work boys!!!

[Ranziel1]

They say that Albion makes the best swords, which are also historically accurate. I guess Cold Steel is the best knife manufacturer.

Lynn Thompson is a knife fighter, right? I guess he knows about knifes more than about swords.

[Jaahaah]

He sure does not look like a knife fighter, not a single scar on his face, eaither he is a REALLY good knife fighter, or he fights with blunt knife for fun

[aerodynamicband]

he probably hasn't had to fight anyone once they see one of his bowies!

[Ranziel1]

Yeah, because every knife fighter takes a sharp knife, ditches all protective gear and starts slashing to death with another nutso like him.

[GDragon9666]

who trains with sharp knives?

''he fights with blunt knife for fun''

well FFS....DUH!

[Jaahaah]

Hey if you are going to do it lets do it right

[Deathrune456]

damn bastard swords!

[ZeppiilHafi]

I heard in another cold steel video that your blades are hand forged, but the price does not reflect that.

I love the testing videos, they show you guys really believe in the quality of your blades but an insight to the making of your blades would be great too.

[TumFlumBlackMetal]

the reason these blades are so cheap and full contact is because they would make alot more money for high quality blades then if they were way over priced the more they sell in time the more money they make and i have a cold steel machete and the shit i put that threw isn't even funny cold steel makes the best blades out there,no match can be found in my book,and the prices are great.

[ZeppiilHafi]

Yes I agree with the price strategy and their blades seem to be indestructible too but I doubt a hand forged long sword which is clearly well made could cost less than $500.

Don't get me wrong I will still probably go for Cold Steel(if they let me import it) even if they use CnC machines to cut the blades. I just want to know exactly what I am buying.

[TumFlumBlackMetal]

indeed i did my research as well,but truly cold steel is a great place to go for knife and sword shopping.

[thisismeplusyou]

I am pretty sure they are hand forged... in India. CnC milling is probably not any easier to do. I am know Angus Trim CnC mills his stuff, along with many other makers. I think Albion does as well.

[helblaze]

this sword is awesome.

[vodkatonic100]

Cold Steel missed the BLADE show 2009 in Atlanta. I think they knew nobody was going to be there. I wish i had that power to see into the future! Looks like a great strong sword though .

[draven686]

Hah i definitely want this one :)

[TheMysteriousAtheist]

it retails ffrom cold steel for 399 but you can get it other places for 229

[CountArtha]

No fuller, I noticed. Type XVIII, I guess?

[Judax969]

I believe the "heavy set guy" who "means biznis" is Lynn C. Thompson

[tallswede80]

Someone died? That's not funny.

[Flamesofame]

I am the highlander.

[wirelessoptical]

I WANT ONE. How long will these things stay sharp, if you know how to properlly sharpen it? will it give a lifetime of good use?

[csknives]

Much of it would depend on its usage

[AColonDashSix]

That demo with the water jug was very imperessive. I like the fact that you guys put so much effort into testing your swords.

[leArchomme]

You guys waste so much perfectly useful meat. Unless it's mad cow meat.

[csknives]

We can honestly tell you that most of all the meats were eaten or donated to charity (mainly the Rescue Mission).

[iunnox666]

....Are your floors really that clean?

[csknives]

No, but the plastic covering we put over the floor to catch all the meat was.

[tommie314101]

lol i saw the same sword being constructed on a show called How-Its-Made, i guess you guys know that

[EvilCleric]

Except I believe that particular sword in that episode was made by Albion.

[Jonbino]

the heavy set guy means serious biznis..

[americanwillow]

Does the narrow space at the end of the tang (inside the handle) create any problems for the pommel (in terms of cracking/breaking)? I have seen pictures of the tang, so I wonder about this.

[tallswede80]

That's a sweet sword. A man in the 14th century will give a testicle for that sword. Cold Steel kicks ass.

[TheMysteriousAtheist]

and then using the sword he could take someone elses hahhaa

[JesusNipples]

Awesome