Frankly imho I believe Richter and Lugunsky are miles ahead in the interpretation of this piece. Horozitz lost the sustain pedal, Giles got it stuck to the floor.............Why to some people assume some to be gods ? Undoubtedly Horozitz was one of the worlds greatest pianists and does an amazing job on most pieces, this is NOT one.
@busylifemeto i know I'm a bit late on the response but... there are multiple recordings of Horowitz playing this piece... I'd check some other before being so quick to judge.
@busylifemeto Have you heard Rachmaninoff play this? It is always Rachmaninoff playing, Horowitz and Gilels. Richter's Rach 23/5 was not his best work but he was one of those "gods" :-) Moiseiwitsch's 23/5 and all his Rach is also that of a piano god. Sorry but Lugansky is well below that level, he is at best a "nice" performer.
@jdp160 The full piece used to be here on YouTube, but now it says "Sony owns the rights for this video" and it won't play (I have it on my "favourites" page).
I am desperetly looking for it!!!! Hope someone else will upload it soon! :-)
@wolfgar33 They were best friends :-) An extraordinary time in their lives for 20 years or so around New York. Horowitz is the closest to how Rach played 23/5, also Gilels, all are surrreal :-)
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@anyan112 ya is it not cool that horowitz and ikzak perlman are/were some of the greatest modern preformers and both were jewish! my belief is God saves the mest for himself but thats just my opinion. :D
Wow i just got of another post were he blew this song out of this world it was so amazing how fast he could play i mean this is nothing he really took his time even the other comments were like he must have crazy wrists to pla y that fast another one was that they wee blown away. I mean once you see that and then this you say awww how much emotion and passion how great how meaning full
I didn't like it. it seems that Horowitz was bored when he recorded it, or he just want to complete his duties and get out o' there. (I knows that I will have the worse ranked comment for that I said).
Actually I paused one of his performances so that I could retire to my throne, take a crap, and then return to the piece where I left off, but now weighing a couple pounds lighter.
I don't think ANYONE in the world will be able to better interpret this piece. Especially the theme from 1:14-2:16, you can't hear the notes separately in the left hand, it's like a beautiful melodic cloud on which the main theme is playing on, which is the way it's supposed to be. And believe me, this is not "rushed." I've heard WAY faster versions. It's the perfect speed and the perfect amount of "jumpiness" for a March. Some pianists' renditions don't even sound like a march!
I think agree with gothiq, if he means that you poseurs and pretenders are incapable of even understanding what you are hearing, much less criticizing it with any modicum of intelligent discourse. (overlapse especially. It's like diarrhea of the mouth with constipation of brain.) And David Gray, saying he was a great musician, but not a great pianist, when the EXACT OPPOSITE is true!
Horowitz at the met, the acoustics were off a little, and he missed the 1 rank the next voting mark, Rubinstein missed as well, and hello world won, 1986 Horowitz 6, hello world 4, Rubinstein 3, Rubinstein eventually received 5 , Horowitz 8, and nobody mentions hello world.
hello was a student of Horowitz, and 'mozart coach', to the maestro, who was assistant conductor in Vienna under Klieber, he arranged all the music of Chopin for orchestra, the piano musics of Debbussy, "ravel", and Liszt his arrangements of Etudes are heaven to listen to, as well the the sonata in B minor of Liszt "for Violin and orchestra", and the Chopin Ballades no. 1 for violin und Orchestra" and the Ballades for orchestra, etudes waltzes, impromptus, arrangements of JS Bach, "Jesu" ...
more reply also these preludes for orchestra in ' 85' recorded with the New Philharmonia Symphony Orchestra", "on and on", if you can find the hello version of Rach'a Vespers, and the arrangement for Orchestra of Liszt's Annees de pelerinage is 3 hours of ear message, ,., nice, and I had a recording of the rach preludes arr. violin and orchestra and the arrangement of Schubert sonatina # 2 for orchestra and piano was the theme music of tv's wings "ergo nicknamed hello world" my apologies
Always comments on people that were far upper than the ones who usually comment. I don't perform on any instrument but I have listened tones of music and I simply can't comment artists as Horowitz, Cziffra and many others because in my honest opinion they had done something I didn't and will never be able to do. Why it's so hard to just listen their performance and stfu if you can't reach at least 10 levels under ?!?
yea.. there were a lot of mistakes.. and yes, I prefer Gilels' Rachmaninoff Prelude Op. 23 No.5 much more. but I like Horowitz's other played pieces too. And this one isn't complete!
Great Countermelodies, the performance overall is much to jumpy. He has some rare gems that other pianists overlook, but he lacks the musicallity of other performers.
This is Horowitz we are talking about here! I'm not an expert myself, but I do know that if you are gonna say Horowitz lacks musicality that is a pretty bold statement for two reasons.
Primarily, Horowitz is often argued as one of the greatest pianists of all time. Secondly however, musicality is a delicate and subjective thing to quantify so casually.
As you can tell, I love Horowitz, but ultimately, you are entitled to your opinion, just don't be so blase!
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Chopin was definitely one of the greatest ever...remember Heine, who heard Liszt, Thalberg and others. He said Chopin was greatest of all. Also Balzac..he said the same thing
i dont know why the author removed ur comment, but i know u said: "how could we know? are there any records of him playing piano? or any references from other profesionals?? i guess there aren't so one should be carefully when talking about "greatest pianist" ever...."
Well, I think we DO have records of him playing, not on our computer or on CD.. but we see the notes he has written down.. we know he made composed music, and what a beautiful pieces some are..
He may have been one of the greatest musicians, but definitely not pianist...he himself stated he was too physically weak to play the piano fully. He was quite jealous of Liszt, who I reckon by all accoutns was the better pianist.
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hey "elevenwhy". no i don't think it's a "bold" thing to say that Horowitz lacked anything, for he lacked so much. SO WHAT IF PEOPLE SAY HE WAS THE GREATEST. does that make it true? people said the world was flat until they were proven wrong. people are not being "blase" when stating the facts about his shockingly distorted, rushed, childish, missed-notes, dropped measures, added measures; all the things that entitle them to say he lacked the elements of a true artist.
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i kinda agree with goodguysdoll. horowitz is good, but hes overhyped. its like brett favre retiring (the first time) and then coming back and playing mediocre as a jet. horowitz should have stayed retired. but his music is still pretty decent. i mean, the fact that youre fuckin 200 years old and youre playing music better than 99.9999 percent of the population. congrats old man, i mean, am i right? fuck, if he wants to come back and play mediocre music, LET HIM!!!
idk, i cant read my comments because you guys keep giving me thumbs down.
honestly, i just dont see why hes so good. you ask me why hes so mediocre, and i can state that he makes mistakes, and rushes through phrases, thats my opinion. plenty of pianists out there who make half the number of mistakes with tons of gorgeous phrasing. again, thats my opinion. if i ask you why he's so amazing and what makes him the greatest out there, youd probably say, his musicality or some shit like that. eh
@crapatitus well all pianist make mistakes and i guess he doesn't rushes but he interpretates it the way he wants... and well not his musicality or some shit like that as u say but... Horowitz is simply Horowitz =D
well, i guess i get it. i dont really like him cuz i dont like his interpretations. you like him cuz you like his interpretations. i just dont understand why so many people love this guy. i'll definitely say HE IS A GOOD PIANIST, but there are many many good pianists and better ones too. sometimes, my favorite interpretations are done by people ive never even heard of before, and it makes me think: should the name of a performer matter, or should the music he plays matter more?
about 3 years into taking piano lessons when i was a kid, i heard horowitz playing schumann's traumerei, and i was like, "wow." i've played it myself, and i've heard brendel play it, but horowitz, to me, did it so much better. he definitely had a distinct style that worked very well for chopin, rachmanioff, scriabin, and more - perhaps not so much for beethoven, though - to the ears of many people. and who really knows how musics that were written so long ago should really be played.
@crapatitus it's very difficult to explain why horowitz is good
i'll do what i can. I will admit to him making a lot of mistakes from :36 to :50, but mistakes are fixable, and he probably didn't bother fixing them. Still if you listen to 1:16 onwards, through a lot of dynamic control and rubato manipulations, he manages to control 2-4 lines all the way through. That takes skill beyond practice. I have yet to heard anyone else come close in that regard.
the middle section is played with stunning clarity, ill give you that. he does maintain all moving lines within a distinctly audible level. however, im never fully impressed with his shaping of lines and his phrasing. it usually feels rushed, but i guess thats just based on my own preference. his music has always felt somewhat rushed though, wouldn't you agree? dragging out some phrases can make the music almost painfully beautiful....
@crapatitus I would agree that some stuff he plays is a little fast, at which I now ask, who drags phrases out effectively? Now here, making it sound pretty wasn't his primary goal. His primary goal was to get those lines to sound out, which would explain why he's playing it "rushed" because if he left too much room between notes, he wouldn't be able to maintain his clarity. However, I think you could agree that even though it's somewhat rushed, the pulse is still there.
no yeah, i only feel his music is slightly rushed. and that slightly rushed method does allow him to bring out each line. this is where our opinions begin to differ: i don't emphasize each line. to me, its okay if countermelody doesnt come out as distinctly as melody. and due to the fact that its harder for a piano to bring out individual lines when compared to an orchestra, i dont expect every little line to come out with clear distinction. my emphasis is on the beauty and the shaping of lines.
I don't like much about this performance, but I am truly astonished at the power of his second F#-Bb-D octave at 0:13. This is really remarkably good, and I'm surprised other performers have not appropriated this brilliant insight in their playing of this piece.
It's a trick. I have seen it. He plays octaves with the left. The Bb in the middle is a single note played with the right. That's why it is so powerful. Cheers.
Love how he uses no pedal in the "march" section---appropriately gives it the military flavor. The way he strikes those explosive chords (some ppl may consider that showy though....) are awesome, too! Overall, I love his rhythm.
idk... it wuz really good. I understand that he's probably the best pianist of the last century but I really prefer Weissenburg's and Gilel's interpretations to this. Sorry horowitz fans :) Btw did he add some extra notes in there?
good god "schlaget," who cares who it is, this man was a fraud. why did you all allow yourselves to be brainwashed? no go ahead everyone. scathe me and give my comment thumbs down.
He plays with such passion and ferocity! I'm attempting this piece right now, and this recording has really helped me understand the voicing... thank you!
rachmaninov hated this song ,because everybody only compared this song to him,everybody always wanted to hear this on his concerts and he hated it,but I'm loving it^^
No.... You're the thinking of the Prelude in C# minor, op.3/2. And please, it's a piece not a song. A song is something you sing, hence the name. A instrumental work is referred to as a piece or a work, why do so many people get this wrong?
Excellent comment! Congratulations. It's a very rare thing to read something sensible and well written in youtube, but it's a pleasure. Thank you for this, Jannie2044.
@jannie2044, hey wouldnt you say metaphorically that this piece could be sung? isnt music at its most fundamental level (at least romantic music) something that is sung. the essence of romantic music is its ability to be sung. the rubato/give and take/dynamics/phrasing all fit to the style of singing. i dont see why you have to dog on cupid for calling it a song rather than a piece. i find myself singing the middle section of this piece all the time. idk, something for you to think about...
Crapatitus, Michael Kennedy's Dictionary of Music defines as song as a "SHort vocal composition, solo or accompanied" (2006: 687). So on that basis, no, the proper term is, although not acknowledged by the dictionary, piece or if you want to follow the dictionary, composition. I would think it appropriate especially for you who critises mistakes in Horowitz's playing to at least express yourself in a linguistically correct fashion. English isn't even my first language, so if I can...
why do people think im critical of horowitz? all ive said is that he's not my taste in music. and i have even acknowledged that he is a good musician, at a level where most of us will never reach (including myself, a dedicated pianist of 14 years/music major/blahblahblah). still, if you want to be technical, you can call it a piece. i personally never refer to these kinda things as songs, but my point is, CHILL, you get the idea, maybe not everyone's as learned as you :)
What's a crapatitus! Compare just Horowitz, Lang Lang and Kissin on this piece. You know what is meant by Maestro, 14 years of music training, you're still a baby. Play 70 years more, you may get to a better stage but that's not guaranteed.
@crapatitus Very simple son, only an ignominious ignoramus would call this PIECE, a song. A song is a work of music designed to be rendered by the human voice. Just the way it is.
@LoftyProduction holy fuckin shit man. if youve been around you woulda seen that ive shut the fuck up for about a month. maybe if douchebags like you don't keep taunting me, i wont keep coming back on to this goddamn worthless page with some 300 year old shitfag playing some mediocre music.
hey btw mr lofty production dude, i love your fuckin gay ass taylor swift uploads. man, youre 20 years old, and you UPLOAD that shit. i mean, for fucks sake, dude, GROW SOME
lol, well if you keep falling for it then you wouldn't keep coming back now would you? Now do everyone a favour and take your worthless arse elswhere.
@crapatitus ( i know this is one year old, but these unresolved conflicts just kill me) could i maybe just say, um, i think you misunderstood a little, you see, you thought he rushed it a little riiight? - and so Jannie said, that a person like you - criticizing Horowitz should not come up with such ideas as - saying a piece is a song because it can be sung. that's a bit like saying a novel can be a fairytale - it's possible, but we just don't say that.
@crapatitus also, it was very obvious, that "Cupidthepianist" - didn't seem to have much knowledge about this kind of music, especially since he/she mixed up Op 3 no 2 with Op 23 no 5 - you must admit, hearing people call Chopin's works songs, it makes his works seem almost childish, and easy - however thats my opinion... just trying to clear things up a little - oh and also all the other raging youtubers, they just can't express them selves properly here.
@crapatitus this one " holy fuckin shit man. if youve been around you woulda seen that ive shut the fuck up for about a month. maybe if douchebags like you don't keep taunting me, i wont keep coming back on to this goddamn worthless page with some 300 year old shitfag playing some mediocre music.
hey btw mr lofty production dude, i love your fuckin gay ass taylor swift uploads. man, youre 20 years old, and you UPLOAD that shit. i mean, for fucks sake, dude, GROW SOME"
@crapatitus OH MY GOD!!!!! ARE YOU STUPID???? - LOOOOOOOK!! - You were arguing with EVERYONE else, SO! I decided to try to sort it, however you just start arguing again! What the hell is wrooong! - now don't come with some smart ass reply, just let i be.
@0blacone im sorry that your lack of clarity confused me. okay, so you were simply sorting my arguments out. WHY THE FUCK DO I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT? next time sort it out in your own brain and dont click the reply button, because your sorting does not pertain to me in any way. and i wasnt arguing at first; i was only asking you what your point in responding to me was (since when you respond to someone, you usually have something to say to them). i wanted to understand what you were saying is all
I'm not convinced that this is a particularly good recording of the piece.
ichalz 4 months ago
Absolute Brilliance
tommytimiv 4 months ago
This is what a true pianist does! excelent performance ^_^
pianist7722 7 months ago
wheres the other half?-.-
ragtimest 7 months ago
0.01 it isn't op 23 n 9
giuseppe35789 7 months ago
very clear
ansonyeung825 8 months ago
cough at 1:08
horay for me!
TheSammypickle 10 months ago
ghaaa love the way he plays this !
kinkajoes 10 months ago
Horowitz has this incredibly articulate skill that binds technical performance with artistry will always remain unmatched. Pure genius!
GAkopyan31 10 months ago
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monietelnefous 10 months ago
why his version so much better than 'bang bang's'
xardas611 10 months ago 3
Frankly imho I believe Richter and Lugunsky are miles ahead in the interpretation of this piece. Horozitz lost the sustain pedal, Giles got it stuck to the floor.............Why to some people assume some to be gods ? Undoubtedly Horozitz was one of the worlds greatest pianists and does an amazing job on most pieces, this is NOT one.
busylifemeto 10 months ago 2
@busylifemeto I agree 100%, richter's and lugansky's interpretation is flawless
eddiebeherano 9 months ago
@busylifemeto i know I'm a bit late on the response but... there are multiple recordings of Horowitz playing this piece... I'd check some other before being so quick to judge.
ImIntoAnimals 8 months ago
@busylifemeto Have you heard Rachmaninoff play this? It is always Rachmaninoff playing, Horowitz and Gilels. Richter's Rach 23/5 was not his best work but he was one of those "gods" :-) Moiseiwitsch's 23/5 and all his Rach is also that of a piano god. Sorry but Lugansky is well below that level, he is at best a "nice" performer.
Bret6464 8 months ago
Shouldn't it be Op. 23 no. 5 at the beginning?
phsycadelicanimal 10 months ago
they should make a button "Love"
KallieeStar 11 months ago 3
i wish it didnt cut off right after the b section. this was an amazing interpretation and it would be perfect if it didnt cut out. oh well
jdp160 11 months ago 2
@jdp160 The full piece used to be here on YouTube, but now it says "Sony owns the rights for this video" and it won't play (I have it on my "favourites" page).
I am desperetly looking for it!!!! Hope someone else will upload it soon! :-)
marenius74 11 months ago
Sad that you don't have this many views on your compositions...
Keep up the good work though~ ^^
Ganbare!
X0xchocah0licx0X 1 year ago
@wolfgar33
Yeah they were great friends, Rachmaninoff also considered Horowitz to be one of the best pianists alive.
Dirte111 1 year ago
Great interpretation indeed. Rachmaninov and he were friends, yes?
wolfgar33 1 year ago 2
@wolfgar33 They were best friends :-) An extraordinary time in their lives for 20 years or so around New York. Horowitz is the closest to how Rach played 23/5, also Gilels, all are surrreal :-)
Bret6464 1 year ago
@wolfgar33 yes
giuseppe35789 7 months ago
Why haven't you uploaded the entire piece?
SuhmMusic 1 year ago 14
The best interpretation so far.
varfordogjesus 1 year ago 2
from 1:13 this prelude of Rachmaninoff is very much look like spanish malaguena
gipsymustang 1 year ago
very precise, i like his style, hes not horoWITZ for nothing!
regaldrifter 1 year ago
no great scratch...
mmyylleenn 1 year ago
He plays it so fast that we can't even see his fingers moving! LOL
Wonderful interpation!
RachPhantom40 1 year ago 3
That photo is of him playing the Rach 3!!! I have watched that video WAYYYYYY to many times!
TheGuyWhoJustShotYou 1 year ago
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piano0011 1 year ago
Happy Birthday Horowitz!
October 1, 1903 – November 5, 1989
Intersting true fact: he was Jewish
anyan112 1 year ago
@anyan112 ya is it not cool that horowitz and ikzak perlman are/were some of the greatest modern preformers and both were jewish! my belief is God saves the mest for himself but thats just my opinion. :D
TheGuyWhoJustShotYou 1 year ago
where's the rest of it?
ZhengStudios 1 year ago
Wow i just got of another post were he blew this song out of this world it was so amazing how fast he could play i mean this is nothing he really took his time even the other comments were like he must have crazy wrists to pla y that fast another one was that they wee blown away. I mean once you see that and then this you say awww how much emotion and passion how great how meaning full
wendellvasquez1988 1 year ago
I didn't like it. it seems that Horowitz was bored when he recorded it, or he just want to complete his duties and get out o' there. (I knows that I will have the worse ranked comment for that I said).
fsxraptor 1 year ago
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zizou11111 1 year ago
Very nice, but I prefer Gilels version!
MrGarlis 1 year ago 2
@MrGarlis you can't compare both versions, there is an other playing philosophie behind both versions
ReimenJohn 1 year ago
what kind of idiot gave him less than 5 stars?
Makelelex99 2 years ago 51
@Makelelex99 Gelaouses
BassicStorm 1 year ago
@Makelelex99 you said it an idiot
xocolatier 1 year ago
@Makelelex99
I 2nd you!
lllmeng 1 year ago
@Makelelex99 The kind of idiot that realised this is half of the actual prelude, not whole, and Horrowitz makes plays quite a few bad-sounding notes
Or3st1s 1 year ago
@Or3st1s yeah, i don't get it either, where is the rest???
0blacone 1 year ago
@Makelelex99 I mean, plays quite a few wrong notes that sound bad as well
Or3st1s 1 year ago
@Makelelex99 ironic since there are no more stars...
comtraya101 1 year ago
@Makelelex99 I KNOW!!!! i was asking myself the same thing... he played the piece with sooooooo much precision and gusto.. OMG!! i Love it.
MySuperstar09 11 months ago
One does not comment on music rendered by Vladimir Horowitz. It just isn't done.
tedbohne 2 years ago
Actually I paused one of his performances so that I could retire to my throne, take a crap, and then return to the piece where I left off, but now weighing a couple pounds lighter.
illegalsmirf 2 years ago
:D that was greeeaaaaaaattttt omg loved from 1:14 to the end
JuyoNi 2 years ago
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FalenXangel 2 years ago
By the way, why is it cut-off at the end?? What the Heck's up with that??
DmitriMose 2 years ago
I don't think ANYONE in the world will be able to better interpret this piece. Especially the theme from 1:14-2:16, you can't hear the notes separately in the left hand, it's like a beautiful melodic cloud on which the main theme is playing on, which is the way it's supposed to be. And believe me, this is not "rushed." I've heard WAY faster versions. It's the perfect speed and the perfect amount of "jumpiness" for a March. Some pianists' renditions don't even sound like a march!
DmitriMose 2 years ago
Yes...RICHTER can...listen to it...its the best !
utki17 2 years ago
@DmitriMose
Horowitz himself played it rushed in his 1931 recording. It was insane.
This tempo is perfect.
demosj 1 year ago
I have so much respect for Horowitz.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
I scroll down and I see a pile of words that really isn't all that important.
Word of advice:
If you don't like him don't watch his videos.
84Fish48Fish 2 years ago
stfu everyone, listen to the music man
xiaonoobiexd 2 years ago 3
@crapatitus,
why can't you be quiet for a while and enjoy the music like everyone else instead of being so criticizing??
DogzRock88 2 years ago
This guy is the man!
bxvcnz1 2 years ago
He learned from best. Rachmaninov himself
HarkAlAda 2 years ago
no he didnt
crapatitus 2 years ago
bravo, Horowitz, you will forever be the best!
DonFrankos 2 years ago
Yes,wonderful.I adore Ashkenazy's version too.
Ellinidara 2 years ago 2
where's the rest of it?
John19182004 2 years ago 2
genius...
siebhirn 2 years ago 2
Perfection!!!
I cant se how this can be played any better...
And Horowitz is past his best days by 30-40 years...
Impressive and legendary piano player!!
Vladimir Horowitz!
maxhansendk 2 years ago 2
Horowitz is the best, is awesome.
Sidvicious100 2 years ago
at the begin of film you wrote "op23 no 9" -.-
cross147 2 years ago
I think agree with gothiq, if he means that you poseurs and pretenders are incapable of even understanding what you are hearing, much less criticizing it with any modicum of intelligent discourse. (overlapse especially. It's like diarrhea of the mouth with constipation of brain.) And David Gray, saying he was a great musician, but not a great pianist, when the EXACT OPPOSITE is true!
johnp234 2 years ago
His hands move so fast you cant see them moving in the video....
mooneyexecutive 2 years ago 2
horowitz in the best...
Attila19101960 2 years ago 14
Preferisco di gran lunga l'interpretazione di Gilels, anche se Horowitz è dopo...tutte le altre che sono state messe su youtube non mi piacciono..
MetalNicola 2 years ago
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Horowitz at the met, the acoustics were off a little, and he missed the 1 rank the next voting mark, Rubinstein missed as well, and hello world won, 1986 Horowitz 6, hello world 4, Rubinstein 3, Rubinstein eventually received 5 , Horowitz 8, and nobody mentions hello world.
Overlapse1000 2 years ago
Overlapse1000, that post was almost completely incoherent. Who is hello world and what voting do you speak of?
demosj 2 years ago
hello was a student of Horowitz, and 'mozart coach', to the maestro, who was assistant conductor in Vienna under Klieber, he arranged all the music of Chopin for orchestra, the piano musics of Debbussy, "ravel", and Liszt his arrangements of Etudes are heaven to listen to, as well the the sonata in B minor of Liszt "for Violin and orchestra", and the Chopin Ballades no. 1 for violin und Orchestra" and the Ballades for orchestra, etudes waltzes, impromptus, arrangements of JS Bach, "Jesu" ...
Overlapse1000 2 years ago
more reply also these preludes for orchestra in ' 85' recorded with the New Philharmonia Symphony Orchestra", "on and on", if you can find the hello version of Rach'a Vespers, and the arrangement for Orchestra of Liszt's Annees de pelerinage is 3 hours of ear message, ,., nice, and I had a recording of the rach preludes arr. violin and orchestra and the arrangement of Schubert sonatina # 2 for orchestra and piano was the theme music of tv's wings "ergo nicknamed hello world" my apologies
Overlapse1000 2 years ago
voting of the" society of recording engineers", not well know but important for certain types of musicians
Overlapse1000 2 years ago
Always comments on people that were far upper than the ones who usually comment. I don't perform on any instrument but I have listened tones of music and I simply can't comment artists as Horowitz, Cziffra and many others because in my honest opinion they had done something I didn't and will never be able to do. Why it's so hard to just listen their performance and stfu if you can't reach at least 10 levels under ?!?
gothiq 2 years ago 2
This is exactly what music exploding on the key broad...
Amazing.
microball 2 years ago
there are some faults in the theme.
I prefer Gilels interpretation.
But nice organ points
EinbeinigerLee 2 years ago
yea.. there were a lot of mistakes.. and yes, I prefer Gilels' Rachmaninoff Prelude Op. 23 No.5 much more. but I like Horowitz's other played pieces too. And this one isn't complete!
BalletCava 2 years ago
i like it , but not my favourite
elbartorowitz 2 years ago
incomplete!
tan73h 2 years ago
I have one word to describe this performance: NUTTY! But the other one is even more weird.
mltube 2 years ago
This version is very Clear and concise, gotta love Vladimirs accuracy and timing
FourtySven 2 years ago 2
Great Countermelodies, the performance overall is much to jumpy. He has some rare gems that other pianists overlook, but he lacks the musicallity of other performers.
CodyNelsonMusic 2 years ago
This is Horowitz we are talking about here! I'm not an expert myself, but I do know that if you are gonna say Horowitz lacks musicality that is a pretty bold statement for two reasons.
Primarily, Horowitz is often argued as one of the greatest pianists of all time. Secondly however, musicality is a delicate and subjective thing to quantify so casually.
As you can tell, I love Horowitz, but ultimately, you are entitled to your opinion, just don't be so blase!
elevenwhy 2 years ago
one of the greatest pianists of ALL time??
dont forget to mention Chopin, the greatest pianist:-)
but i agree with your second reason; )
jetibest 2 years ago
Chopin was certainly not the greatest pianist. He is I think the greatest composer for piano, but definitely not the greatest pianist.
zosopage2 2 years ago 3
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Chopin was definitely one of the greatest ever...remember Heine, who heard Liszt, Thalberg and others. He said Chopin was greatest of all. Also Balzac..he said the same thing
88Woland 2 years ago
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mimuellts 2 years ago
i dont know why the author removed ur comment, but i know u said: "how could we know? are there any records of him playing piano? or any references from other profesionals?? i guess there aren't so one should be carefully when talking about "greatest pianist" ever...."
Well, I think we DO have records of him playing, not on our computer or on CD.. but we see the notes he has written down.. we know he made composed music, and what a beautiful pieces some are..
ok ok, hes not the only greatest!:P
jetibest 2 years ago
He may have been one of the greatest musicians, but definitely not pianist...he himself stated he was too physically weak to play the piano fully. He was quite jealous of Liszt, who I reckon by all accoutns was the better pianist.
davidgray2 2 years ago
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hey "elevenwhy". no i don't think it's a "bold" thing to say that Horowitz lacked anything, for he lacked so much. SO WHAT IF PEOPLE SAY HE WAS THE GREATEST. does that make it true? people said the world was flat until they were proven wrong. people are not being "blase" when stating the facts about his shockingly distorted, rushed, childish, missed-notes, dropped measures, added measures; all the things that entitle them to say he lacked the elements of a true artist.
goodguysdoll 2 years ago
I love how people take the time to debate others on youtube and to mark everybody's comment as a "poor comment"
DirectAm500 2 years ago 3
Agree.!
Ellinidara 2 years ago
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i kinda agree with goodguysdoll. horowitz is good, but hes overhyped. its like brett favre retiring (the first time) and then coming back and playing mediocre as a jet. horowitz should have stayed retired. but his music is still pretty decent. i mean, the fact that youre fuckin 200 years old and youre playing music better than 99.9999 percent of the population. congrats old man, i mean, am i right? fuck, if he wants to come back and play mediocre music, LET HIM!!!
crapatitus 2 years ago
@crapatitus why and how would his music be mediocre??? he's been one of the best (if not the best) of all pianists of the century
L1ttl3Karl0s 2 years ago
idk, i cant read my comments because you guys keep giving me thumbs down.
honestly, i just dont see why hes so good. you ask me why hes so mediocre, and i can state that he makes mistakes, and rushes through phrases, thats my opinion. plenty of pianists out there who make half the number of mistakes with tons of gorgeous phrasing. again, thats my opinion. if i ask you why he's so amazing and what makes him the greatest out there, youd probably say, his musicality or some shit like that. eh
crapatitus 2 years ago
@crapatitus well all pianist make mistakes and i guess he doesn't rushes but he interpretates it the way he wants... and well not his musicality or some shit like that as u say but... Horowitz is simply Horowitz =D
L1ttl3Karl0s 2 years ago
well, i guess i get it. i dont really like him cuz i dont like his interpretations. you like him cuz you like his interpretations. i just dont understand why so many people love this guy. i'll definitely say HE IS A GOOD PIANIST, but there are many many good pianists and better ones too. sometimes, my favorite interpretations are done by people ive never even heard of before, and it makes me think: should the name of a performer matter, or should the music he plays matter more?
crapatitus 2 years ago
about 3 years into taking piano lessons when i was a kid, i heard horowitz playing schumann's traumerei, and i was like, "wow." i've played it myself, and i've heard brendel play it, but horowitz, to me, did it so much better. he definitely had a distinct style that worked very well for chopin, rachmanioff, scriabin, and more - perhaps not so much for beethoven, though - to the ears of many people. and who really knows how musics that were written so long ago should really be played.
bluemonolith88 2 years ago
@crapatitus it's very difficult to explain why horowitz is good
i'll do what i can. I will admit to him making a lot of mistakes from :36 to :50, but mistakes are fixable, and he probably didn't bother fixing them. Still if you listen to 1:16 onwards, through a lot of dynamic control and rubato manipulations, he manages to control 2-4 lines all the way through. That takes skill beyond practice. I have yet to heard anyone else come close in that regard.
thiswastoogood 2 years ago
the middle section is played with stunning clarity, ill give you that. he does maintain all moving lines within a distinctly audible level. however, im never fully impressed with his shaping of lines and his phrasing. it usually feels rushed, but i guess thats just based on my own preference. his music has always felt somewhat rushed though, wouldn't you agree? dragging out some phrases can make the music almost painfully beautiful....
crapatitus 2 years ago 2
@crapatitus I would agree that some stuff he plays is a little fast, at which I now ask, who drags phrases out effectively? Now here, making it sound pretty wasn't his primary goal. His primary goal was to get those lines to sound out, which would explain why he's playing it "rushed" because if he left too much room between notes, he wouldn't be able to maintain his clarity. However, I think you could agree that even though it's somewhat rushed, the pulse is still there.
thiswastoogood 2 years ago
no yeah, i only feel his music is slightly rushed. and that slightly rushed method does allow him to bring out each line. this is where our opinions begin to differ: i don't emphasize each line. to me, its okay if countermelody doesnt come out as distinctly as melody. and due to the fact that its harder for a piano to bring out individual lines when compared to an orchestra, i dont expect every little line to come out with clear distinction. my emphasis is on the beauty and the shaping of lines.
crapatitus 2 years ago
I don't like much about this performance, but I am truly astonished at the power of his second F#-Bb-D octave at 0:13. This is really remarkably good, and I'm surprised other performers have not appropriated this brilliant insight in their playing of this piece.
chomskyFTW 2 years ago
It's a trick. I have seen it. He plays octaves with the left. The Bb in the middle is a single note played with the right. That's why it is so powerful. Cheers.
AfroPoli 2 years ago 2
why couldn't it be as powerful with only the left hand ?
tchebinai71 2 years ago
i was nicely surprised too, by these octaves. With the timbre of the piano, that's a real delight :)
tchebinai71 2 years ago 2
EVGENY KISSIN FTW
oOHaceFrioOo 3 years ago
HELL YEA!
crapatitus 2 years ago
from which year is this recording?
john9487 3 years ago
its op 23 no. 5 <---!! not 9
RAMkid 3 years ago
Love how he uses no pedal in the "march" section---appropriately gives it the military flavor. The way he strikes those explosive chords (some ppl may consider that showy though....) are awesome, too! Overall, I love his rhythm.
ajlee1216 3 years ago
Ohh, it's good version...
But, is the best version, the Sviatoslav Richter's version...
Obvius!
sultanov10 3 years ago
idk... it wuz really good. I understand that he's probably the best pianist of the last century but I really prefer Weissenburg's and Gilel's interpretations to this. Sorry horowitz fans :) Btw did he add some extra notes in there?
Rakurah 3 years ago
well. I'm a huge Horowitz fan, but i agree with you. especially Gilel's version is good
markhallansen 3 years ago
wow this recording really is far more more better than others! Too bad this is only half of it :(
ManWithManyShurikens 3 years ago
In the first 40 second of this piece Horo. Shows us his sensibility in touch. How can he gives importance to every key. Simply magic.
Strino87 3 years ago 7
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That's it? What happened to the rest? I wish people would not put up such crappy vids.
cdaskala 3 years ago
It's Horowitz and even half of his genius is worth posting...
schlaget 3 years ago 16
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good god "schlaget," who cares who it is, this man was a fraud. why did you all allow yourselves to be brainwashed? no go ahead everyone. scathe me and give my comment thumbs down.
goodguysdoll 2 years ago
He plays with such passion and ferocity! I'm attempting this piece right now, and this recording has really helped me understand the voicing... thank you!
mayablanca 3 years ago 7
rachmaninov hated this song ,because everybody only compared this song to him,everybody always wanted to hear this on his concerts and he hated it,but I'm loving it^^
CupidThePianist 3 years ago
No.... You're the thinking of the Prelude in C# minor, op.3/2. And please, it's a piece not a song. A song is something you sing, hence the name. A instrumental work is referred to as a piece or a work, why do so many people get this wrong?
Jannie2044 3 years ago 3
Excellent comment! Congratulations. It's a very rare thing to read something sensible and well written in youtube, but it's a pleasure. Thank you for this, Jannie2044.
Spiritakis 3 years ago 3
@jannie2044, hey wouldnt you say metaphorically that this piece could be sung? isnt music at its most fundamental level (at least romantic music) something that is sung. the essence of romantic music is its ability to be sung. the rubato/give and take/dynamics/phrasing all fit to the style of singing. i dont see why you have to dog on cupid for calling it a song rather than a piece. i find myself singing the middle section of this piece all the time. idk, something for you to think about...
crapatitus 2 years ago
Crapatitus, Michael Kennedy's Dictionary of Music defines as song as a "SHort vocal composition, solo or accompanied" (2006: 687). So on that basis, no, the proper term is, although not acknowledged by the dictionary, piece or if you want to follow the dictionary, composition. I would think it appropriate especially for you who critises mistakes in Horowitz's playing to at least express yourself in a linguistically correct fashion. English isn't even my first language, so if I can...
Jannie2044 2 years ago
why do people think im critical of horowitz? all ive said is that he's not my taste in music. and i have even acknowledged that he is a good musician, at a level where most of us will never reach (including myself, a dedicated pianist of 14 years/music major/blahblahblah). still, if you want to be technical, you can call it a piece. i personally never refer to these kinda things as songs, but my point is, CHILL, you get the idea, maybe not everyone's as learned as you :)
crapatitus 2 years ago
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What's a crapatitus! Compare just Horowitz, Lang Lang and Kissin on this piece. You know what is meant by Maestro, 14 years of music training, you're still a baby. Play 70 years more, you may get to a better stage but that's not guaranteed.
FalenXangel 2 years ago
@crapatitus Very simple son, only an ignominious ignoramus would call this PIECE, a song. A song is a work of music designed to be rendered by the human voice. Just the way it is.
tedbohne 2 years ago
ignominious ignoramus?
lol
what are you, trying to be funny? trying to be clever? ooooh look! fuckin alliteration! you're soooo smart, you deserve a gold star for that!
next time, leave your dumbass insults in your dumbass imagination
crapatitus 2 years ago
Yeah, I thought it was good alliteration too. so how about you go make yourself a nice hot cup of shut the fuck up with extra fuck?
LoftyProduction 1 year ago
@LoftyProduction holy fuckin shit man. if youve been around you woulda seen that ive shut the fuck up for about a month. maybe if douchebags like you don't keep taunting me, i wont keep coming back on to this goddamn worthless page with some 300 year old shitfag playing some mediocre music.
hey btw mr lofty production dude, i love your fuckin gay ass taylor swift uploads. man, youre 20 years old, and you UPLOAD that shit. i mean, for fucks sake, dude, GROW SOME
crapatitus 1 year ago
lol, well if you keep falling for it then you wouldn't keep coming back now would you? Now do everyone a favour and take your worthless arse elswhere.
LoftyProduction 1 year ago
@crapatitus
People might think you're critical of Horowitz because called him a 300 year old shitfag. I have no idea WTF you're doing, but cut that shit out.
demosj 1 year ago
@demosj touche
crapatitus 1 year ago
@crapatitus ( i know this is one year old, but these unresolved conflicts just kill me) could i maybe just say, um, i think you misunderstood a little, you see, you thought he rushed it a little riiight? - and so Jannie said, that a person like you - criticizing Horowitz should not come up with such ideas as - saying a piece is a song because it can be sung. that's a bit like saying a novel can be a fairytale - it's possible, but we just don't say that.
0blacone 1 year ago
@crapatitus also, it was very obvious, that "Cupidthepianist" - didn't seem to have much knowledge about this kind of music, especially since he/she mixed up Op 3 no 2 with Op 23 no 5 - you must admit, hearing people call Chopin's works songs, it makes his works seem almost childish, and easy - however thats my opinion... just trying to clear things up a little - oh and also all the other raging youtubers, they just can't express them selves properly here.
0blacone 1 year ago
@0blacone i have no idea what your point is. what unresolved conflicts?
crapatitus 1 year ago
@crapatitus this one " holy fuckin shit man. if youve been around you woulda seen that ive shut the fuck up for about a month. maybe if douchebags like you don't keep taunting me, i wont keep coming back on to this goddamn worthless page with some 300 year old shitfag playing some mediocre music.
hey btw mr lofty production dude, i love your fuckin gay ass taylor swift uploads. man, youre 20 years old, and you UPLOAD that shit. i mean, for fucks sake, dude, GROW SOME"
0blacone 1 year ago
@0blacone yes, those are my comments. what is your point? as in, what you hope to achieve?
crapatitus 1 year ago
@crapatitus Oh my god! .... I just told you! but never mind -.- "
0blacone 1 year ago
@0blacone i hardly think quoting random comments of mine makes for a point, but whatever. think, "thesis"
crapatitus 1 year ago
@crapatitus OH MY GOD!!!!! ARE YOU STUPID???? - LOOOOOOOK!! - You were arguing with EVERYONE else, SO! I decided to try to sort it, however you just start arguing again! What the hell is wrooong! - now don't come with some smart ass reply, just let i be.
0blacone 1 year ago
@0blacone im sorry that your lack of clarity confused me. okay, so you were simply sorting my arguments out. WHY THE FUCK DO I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT? next time sort it out in your own brain and dont click the reply button, because your sorting does not pertain to me in any way. and i wasnt arguing at first; i was only asking you what your point in responding to me was (since when you respond to someone, you usually have something to say to them). i wanted to understand what you were saying is all
crapatitus 1 year ago
word
0blacone 1 year ago
jannie2044 is right
TrevorKingKwong 3 years ago
I actually think your talking about the Prelude in C-Sharp Minor, Op. 3, No. 2, but whatever.
Sinneo91 3 years ago
And I was completely oblivious to Jannie's post... Sorry
Sinneo91 3 years ago
haha it happens :)
tomokioh 3 years ago
I recognize the recording from Horowitz At the Met. It is remastered and sounds better than what is posted here.
Excellent recording, and CD in general.
demosj 3 years ago
unbelievable middle section!!!
voolare 3 years ago
His voicing and balance in the middle section are out of this world.
phynesse2000 3 years ago 2
Grand! ABSOLUTELY compares favorably with Richter's. Too bad about the missing end. BRAVO
sagalat 3 years ago
Do you know the version of S. Richter?
That's a liiiiiittle bit better i think ;)
But Horowitz is good, too :D
Pattafox 3 years ago
where is the end of the prelude?
StefanoF87 3 years ago 3