I think it depends on how faith is defined. If it's faith like trust in another person, then yes faith is not irrational. I'm not sure about faith in a being that people can't see, though.
If you choose to use that as your guiding principle to define "faith"...sure...I have "faith" that you are a real person and not a computer generated image from the Matrix. I have "faith" that the walls of my house will keep the roof from falling on my head. But THAT is NOT what the word "faith" is used for in the arguments you used this definition against. Including my video which you posted it as a response to. Perhaps, "blind faith" will suit you better...the point is the same.
I don't believe anymore in the term 'blind faith' anymore. Faith is part of human beings because we always have certain information (unproved) that are the cause of our beliefs, actions, of our attitude towards our personal realities.
If you live, then you must believe in something. That, my perspective, makes you a religious being.
now you are misusing the word religion. Religious isn't directly related to "faith" according to your own example here as well as the ones I pointed out. In my newest video I read the definition of "religion"...none of those definitions apply to me.
Be careful not to equivocate. There are different meanings to the word faith. One is 'trust'. Another is 'belief without evidence'. One who has faith in the inerrant word of the Bible is different than someone who has faith a cannon ball will obey the laws of physics. One is a belief without any evidence. The other is a trust in something for which we have evidence (physics). Instead of using the word 'faith' I prefer to use 'trust' and reserve 'faith' for the 'belief without evidence' sense.
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
You are selectively choosing which definitions you report, meanwhile equivocating and relying on the other definitions as well. For instance, you cannot claim to have evidence or proof for 'something 'known to us through inner experience'. Our inner experiences are often misleading.
I hate it when people make up logic as they go along and then believe their own nonsense.
He guy doesn't even seem to know about syllogisms. It's all IF A THEN B.
He is also equivocates on the word "faith", a common tactic. It's not even over and I have counted three different versions of "faith" being discussed: Belief without evidence, faith as in religion (commonly confused with the former since religious faith requires belief without evidence), and faith as in "trust".
I don't understand faith... It makes no rational sense.
PinkProgram 2 years ago
I think it depends on how faith is defined. If it's faith like trust in another person, then yes faith is not irrational. I'm not sure about faith in a being that people can't see, though.
HaleyMary 3 years ago 2
If you choose to use that as your guiding principle to define "faith"...sure...I have "faith" that you are a real person and not a computer generated image from the Matrix. I have "faith" that the walls of my house will keep the roof from falling on my head. But THAT is NOT what the word "faith" is used for in the arguments you used this definition against. Including my video which you posted it as a response to. Perhaps, "blind faith" will suit you better...the point is the same.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
I don't believe anymore in the term 'blind faith' anymore. Faith is part of human beings because we always have certain information (unproved) that are the cause of our beliefs, actions, of our attitude towards our personal realities.
If you live, then you must believe in something. That, my perspective, makes you a religious being.
roberto8ag 3 years ago
now you are misusing the word religion. Religious isn't directly related to "faith" according to your own example here as well as the ones I pointed out. In my newest video I read the definition of "religion"...none of those definitions apply to me.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
thus you put equivalency between the belief in a nine layered chi aura and the belief that the Sun will rise tomorrow morning.
deliberate misuse of the term, tap-tap, can be proud of yourself.
bubuka79 1 year ago
Be careful not to equivocate. There are different meanings to the word faith. One is 'trust'. Another is 'belief without evidence'. One who has faith in the inerrant word of the Bible is different than someone who has faith a cannon ball will obey the laws of physics. One is a belief without any evidence. The other is a trust in something for which we have evidence (physics). Instead of using the word 'faith' I prefer to use 'trust' and reserve 'faith' for the 'belief without evidence' sense.
wonderist 3 years ago 3
Faith from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust
roberto8ag 3 years ago
Etymology is not the same as definition. Definitions change over time and depend on how the word is used.
wonderist 3 years ago
'Faith is a profound belief or trust in a particular truth, or in a doctrine that expresses such a truth.
Informal usage of the word "faith" can be quite broad, and may be used standardly in place of either as "trust," "belief," or "hope".
From Wikipedia
roberto8ag 3 years ago
From Merriam-Webster:
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
You are selectively choosing which definitions you report, meanwhile equivocating and relying on the other definitions as well. For instance, you cannot claim to have evidence or proof for 'something 'known to us through inner experience'. Our inner experiences are often misleading.
wonderist 3 years ago
I don't believe in nothing that cannot be explained by the laws of the natural world. I'm not a super naturalist. I'm a pantheist.
roberto8ag 3 years ago
how is a confirmation of internal experience to be detected?
Answer: The attitude rational beings have towards their reality (understanding, then actions.)
Internal experience happens when a rational being is in contact with his/her universe based on experiences (external knowledge.)
roberto8ag 3 years ago
Dreadful logic.
jazzx251 3 years ago 2
I hate it when people make up logic as they go along and then believe their own nonsense.
He guy doesn't even seem to know about syllogisms. It's all IF A THEN B.
He is also equivocates on the word "faith", a common tactic. It's not even over and I have counted three different versions of "faith" being discussed: Belief without evidence, faith as in religion (commonly confused with the former since religious faith requires belief without evidence), and faith as in "trust".
DaveGrossmanSoloBass 3 years ago
I believe Religion is an inevitable condition for rational beings. Consequently, faith should be based in rationality.
roberto8ag 3 years ago
I always feel that Pat Condell is not as cool as he thinks he is.
But I know I am...
:)
Barklord 3 years ago