The Wild West - Plains Indians

[BOBBYthebrainBUNDY]

"OWEN" not Owens... Google is your friend.

Google 7th Cavalry, Check Wikipedia, check 1st Cavalry Division (dot) org or any other US cavalry site, it's OWEN. Better yet google "Jockey at the Fair" same catchy tune.

[trooper0076]

bestjonbon, "pardi pill-grum" is part-1 & "now, sioux" is part-2 of a comment of a Gen. Custer student of 34+ yrs. With all respect: you don't know what your writing is the propaganda 1st promulgated by Pres Grant, Reno & Benteen at Reno Court of Inquiry, & Sherman & his US Army.

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[trooper0076]

Now, sioux conquered black hills in 1807-1809 from Crow. Due to black hills conference, sept 1875, sittin-stubborn was mad-as-hell. Come april 1876, he invaded Crow land & waited with at least 4,000 bucks, itchin for a fite. When Custer ran, he turned to see Calhoun trapped with no horses. He Charged back, couldn't get to Calhoun, and 226+ troops were mutilated beyond belief, including Gen. Custer. The Chippewa, Crow,Ree, Hidatsa, Mandan & Crow called them snakes, cannibals.

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[trooper0076]

Pardin me pill-grum! I dont think you know what your talking about, unless your ass is where your head is. 1st, all army officers in the west were under orders to bring hostiles in. 2nd, Custer's raids on villages ALWAYS freed white captives or buried fresh-tortured ones. 3rd, Custer's tactics June 25, followed standard Military Tactics written by Crook in 1867. Reno, in charge, was coward & berayer; Benteen 2nd-in-command was betrayer, Grant & Sherman were arrogant (and angry).

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[wotmot223]

@trooper0076 there is only one response to this. Wrong. No, his raids did not "allways" free white captives, or bury "fresh-tourtured ones. Look up "sand creek" 1864 and "camp grant" 1871. Additionaly Reno was aquited (after his death) by the military. "coward" or "betrayer" being given to a group pinned under fire by twice thier number is ignorance. BTW in Cooks tactics there were multiple tactics to choose from.

[trooper0076]

@wotmot223

in 1864, Custer was in Army of Potomac, Brigadier General fiting Civil War. In 1871 Custer was fititin Comanche, Kiowa, & Apache from Rio Grande to Oklahoma. In due respect to you, your dates & places for Custer are wrong.

[wotmot223]

@trooper0076 It seems I need to learn how to cook crow, in as much as I am now eating it. I have a good friend who is an historian and archvist... And she supports what you say. The closest case of an "attrocity" was the black kettle battle, and there he took hostages ( I had read elsewhere he killed them, no records support that, and the natvive acounts say he set them free after leaving the area). So, it seems I was the one who was wrong...

[trooper0076]

@wotmot223

Hi. Battle of washita Nov.1868: Custer proved attacks in snow up to horses' bellies was feasible. Indian scouts erased all snow-tracks. travel was slow & at nite. Black Kettle was a double agent: friendly to bluecoats & reporting the troop strength & strategies to his warchief friends in the wild. After many months of wagon train & settlement raids, they captured 50-159 settlers. The starved an 11 month old child to death. Read John Carroll; Stan Hoig; Greg Michno.

[wotmot223]

@trooper0076 Black Kettle was not the only one killed. I'm sorry this idea that it was mostly one sided, even with Custer is as narrow-viewed as it is when people seem to think that only the Sioux (or any other native group) where recipients of attrocities. John Carrol btw is very one-sided on his naratives, he leaves out most everything from the perspective and acounts of native americans unless they paint a better picture of whites. Most historians of today use a lot more sources.

[AziraphaleDB]

What would y'all say if I said "Custer died for your sins"

[trooper0076]

@AziraphaleDB

I'm Custer! I'm not dead!

Not since Anasazi, Maya & Aztecs was such Stone Age cannibalism ever displayed, on both sides of Mississippi, like the Sioux=Snakes, named by the Chippewa, who beat the shit out of them, chased them to Dakota where they robbed the Black Hills from the Crow.

You'll never get back the Black Hills, descendant of 19th c cannibals! Whatta ya say to that!!

[adso686]

Custer era il classico militare testa di minchia ! Comunque riposi in pace !

[grubbyray34]

how come ive never heard natives make that sound

[trisgilmour]

CUSTER TO ME ALWAYS BE KNOWN AS NO EARS

[TheTxBandit]

custer spends eternity with an arrow shoved up his ass.  :-)

[trisgilmour]

CUSTER HAD IT COMING

[Curtissaviation]

The fate of Custer was repeated again in WW2 in operation Market-Garden. British generals ignored intelligence reports of strong german forces in the area of Arnhem. They ran into a nasty surprise when they realized their paratroopers were facing two SS panzer divisions. The end was inevitable but allied forces were able to save the remnants of the British 1st parachute div. which suffered about 80% casualties. Fortunately, the Germans didn't scalp or mutilate their opponents.

[Dorisequador]

Man General Custer looks like Wild Bill Hicock .... very similar appearance..

[olie266]

The americans were a bunch of absalute scoundrels, a beutiful native race of people was wiped out because they didnt do what a higher power wanted, the foundations of america were built apon the pain and suffering of the indians.

[TheAlliswell]

@olie266 stoooooooop already, telling us how bad we were, we are the greatest nation on earth, everyone makes mistakes, the vatican in Rome wiped out more civilizations than we even came close too. "I HAVE SPOKEN"

[PhiloAmericana]

@olie266 You do know that the vast majority of indians died before America was a country, right? Most died during all those years of European colonization. Kind of makes you look stupid.

[olie266]

@PhiloAmericana Yeah, and replying to a comment that is over a year old "kind of makes you look stupid".

[PhiloAmericana]

@olie266 Not really, your profile was active.

[hangemhigh2000]

You really lost it. lol

Great job bestjonbon.

I think NYC is saying why no images at ARMY? NYC lives 5 minutes, if that. You should have at least a million views.

[bestjonbon]

Thanks for the kind thought!

[talpore]

yes a total faliure but like the Battle of Isandlwana for us .when told of 20,000 Zulus in the area Lord Chelmsford did not belive it and spit his forces taken the main force with him leaving his camp to be overrun, 727 British regulars dead 471 others they was only one outcome after that . another 10.000 British regulars sent from england,and eventuly total defeat for the native to the land.

[bestjonbon]

Total failures are the worst, aren't they?

[talpore]

yes its a bitch ,but the failure at Isandlwana was blamed on a dead officer left in charge with the wiped out camp by Lord Chelmsford .who did not pay for his stupidity unlike Custer who died with his men.

then Rorke's Drift happened to take the attention away from the screw up at Isandlwana .

[TheAlliswell]

@talpore but then thats the British high command, years later in the trenches in france, the loss at Singapore, the repulse, and prince of wales, british commanders are notorious for sacrificing the lives of their soldiers and sailors, their actions speak for them, "I Have Spoken"

[NYCity99]

What do you mean you couldn't find any

recordings of post-Civil War musketry?

I don't think you tried hard enough! :) If history was presented to me this way in high school, I would have enjoyed the class.

Another great video. Peace.

[bestjonbon]

For FREE! I meant for freeeeee... :-)