Watch the fight. GSP dominates penn. Watch primetime. GSP is working his ass off and Penn is taking days off to sit at the beach. Look at how big GSP is compared to Penn. Penn had no chance in the 1st place, and all the shit he said didnt work. GSP out worked him and when is the last time Penn ended a fight from his guard anyway? Let Penn grease and then see how GSP still dominates him....
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Nate Marquadt also tests positive for steroids, so what does he know. All I know is I watched the fight several times as well as read statements from those who were there like Chuck Liddell, and I have concluded that GSP's corner purposely greased him. Penn's leg slid off of GSP's back without him attempting to pass his guard. Joe Rogan even made a comment about it during the fight. The fight was pretty even until it went to the ground. Chuck is the one who told Dana and the commisioner.
@130kali "The fight was pretty even until it went to the ground." HUH? What fight did you watch? Were you stoned? GSP dominated the standup in this fight. lol.
@ heatgoeson.dude watch more videos it's true maybe gsp didn't want that done but it was done. Plus Nate unfortunately isn't a good source for the truth.
Nate Marquadt backed GSP sayin that the allegations of him greasing are laughable and that Penn, Hughes, and Serra need to shut the fuck up and just accept the fact that they lost...THIS IS NATE MARQUADT'S WORDS
I see a lot of people saying BJ could have caught gsp with a triangle but couldnt due to the grease, whilst i agree i dont think that was the main problem, i'm watching a replay of the fight on tv right now and the problem i see is BJ simply cannot hold GSP with the rubbergaurd, GSP is slipping out, allowing him to posture freely and rain down elbows and punches. I believe gps is a great fighter and a great champion but in this case i believe he's very obviously greasing and unfairly winning.
@TheMrpalid Yes definitely the vaseline on his fists is the only reason why GSP dominated his last fight against Koschek with the most jab-oriented performance ever. I mean the only reason Koschek eyes swelled up after 5-6 jabs of GSP on him was because of Vaseline! Who knows, maybe he even put vaseline in his blood. No wonder he beat Koschek so bad!
man mlb player and nfl players used pine tarr for yrs.....yrrrrrs and no one said anything....rubber guard is hard to defend so y not,,,what IF...IFFFFFF some got in an eye and he rubs it out and somegets on his arm and he gets out of a armbar or amaracona...hmmmmmm is he cheating
I think every fighter should allow to use claws on the gloves when fighting GSP, cause Vasaline is GSP's favorite shit! maybe a 2" claw for grappling his cheat ass!!
@MexicanMetlAC i agree with you it shouldnt matter how bad Bj looked against GSP. GSP cheated its wrong to do what he did Bj is intitled to a rematch thats that.
alot of mma fighters grease. ya dont put it on before the fight but put it on for the days leading up to it so your skin soaks it up ad then when ya sweat it makes ya slippery as a mofo. i still think gsp would take bj even without a training camp
@postitnoteman not really the first round was really really close and then the grease was applied inbetween rounds and then it started turning into a lopsided fight because when gsp took penn down penn could never break his posture and if you cant break a guys posture down and your in guard all submissions, and sweeps go out of the window, and the guy postured up can land some heavy leather. watch how close the first round is..
@bob2012isfake yes i agree, he is champ. thats undisputable, its a fact... however, someone who studies the videos of his fights can more than likely see an onpening when he flies his hands open to go for a takedown, one good muai thai or karate fighter could take him out ie:lyoto machida/anderson silva
sure if he meant that he would have said that, ive seen a lot of light fellas do away with huge dudes and if u havnt uv neva seen a japanese fight card
no i havent, i could care less about japanese fighting, and thank you for proving my point? but yeah it could fuck up your arm.. if you dont put any resistance to it. if you try to even lean your shoulders up it wont work for too long, but 2 seconds is a short time
lmao i agree and with the hughes he caught him on the downside of his career anyways, after thiago alves thats pretty much it for him, still a hall of famer
St. Pierre is the best pound for pound fighter in the welter weight class by far. There is NOONE in that division who can out class him. If you ask me, GSP should shut up all the haters with a first round knockout to penn, then match it with a submission victory over anderson silva. IF that happened, the only word that comes to mind is just plain EPIC
there is a video of vaseline being applied to his back and that is illegal. and we all know video doesn't lie. your just a stupid fan boy. greases st-pierre is a cheater end of story.
And i suppose the Vaseline helped Georges beat BJ in the stand up game as well? landing jab after jab after Superman punch? lol GSP is far from a cheater.
REGARDLESS if he was out striking bj gsp had vaseline applied to his body that is illegal if the fight never went to the ground you might have an argument but it did and when it did gsp was sweating olive oil all over penn.
And i suppose you think if there was a GSP vs. Penn 3 there would be a different outcome? To say GSP is an intentional cheater is just ludicrous. He is a stand up classy guy, and the best possible ambassador for the sport. give it up.
he is a stand up guy so there is no way he can cheat right. what dont you fucking morons get THERE IS VIDEO OF IT BEING ALLIED TO HIS BACK AND BICEPS! it is not relevant if he is a better fighter than penn without it he cheated there is proof end of story. thats like saying mark mcgwire could still hit runs without steroids so who cares if he used them.
Wow you truly are an idiot. I'm not disputing the video of Phil Nurse (unintentionally) applying Vaseline. You said Georges is a cheater, so you truly think Georges intentionally cheated? what a goof.
Another unsurprising youtube goof. GSP could be covered in sandpaper, and the same outcome would occur. Stop hating and whining and do something productive with your life. Now with all do respect, fuck off.
What do i think made BJ lose his guard? Maybe the complete and total domination by the freight train on top of him. In fact you watch the fight again and see Georges pass Bj's full guard to side control twice. and at no point when he was passing the guard did bj touch his back or shoulders. mind you they were wiped off every single round as well. BJ lost, it's simple as that, get over it. The same result would occur if they fought a third time, and Georges could be covered in sand paper.
watch another video and an actual doctor says that in order to get it off of him in a matter of seconds, they would have to pour rubbing alcohol on him, and theres other related videos that show BJ putting high guard and without the "frieght train" even touching him they slid downm they didnt fall, they werent repositioned, they slid down from the slickness
i think the point is that although gsp is a sik fighter, his cornerman premeditated the action against a fighter renowned for submissions..so u get grease on ur neck and shoulders/arms?the two main areas that are attacked in jujitsu...ur as good as the people you hang with and in my mind that lowers gsp character
ooooo some crybabys other then bj penn whata surprise. If bj penn will cry about vaseline cause hes jealous of his body and gettin owned by him twice obviously other people who got smashed by gsp will agree, why would they like gsp? there not his friend (obviously) and he helped ruin there career like get a fucking brain guys lots of fighters are crybabys especially pussys like bj penn who jus practice bjj and sit on his ass eating buritos. Sherk is str8up if bj won he wouldn't of mentioned IT!
Their is video proof that Vaseline was put on his back.Their is proof that when you mix Vaseline and water(like he did when he poured water on his back after the Vaseline was applied) it makes you slippery.Your an idiot to think Penn would keep his mouth shut after GSP's corner man cheated.I still think GSP would have one but his corner did cheat.Your right Sherk is stright up and he also said that that GSP was slippery like he had grease on him.Watch the video before you make ignorant comments.
@dukeslaps dude you much be fucking stupid if you think he got owned the first fight... you need to stop being a fuckin poser acting like you know anything about the fight game.... whats up with 5 outta the last 9 fighters bitching about gsp feeling greasy???? ooooo yea its cause HE FUCKING CHEATED AND GOT RUBBED DOWN WITH VASELINE
there were other people such as sean sherk that said in 2005 way before any of these allegations came about that he was impossible to grab because he was slippery, also matt serra and matt hughes and if you can find more of a classy guy than matt hughes you let me know about it
well basically did you see how he acted on the ultimate fighter when he was assistant coach and when he was coach? he doesnt seem to respect anyone because he thinks he is so much better, just my 2 cents though i respect your opinion
Are you serious? "if you can find more of a classy guy than Matt Hughes you let me know about it"
Matt Hughes is an ignorant bastard. Made fun of GSP constantly during TUF. even saying to Georges " learn how to defend an armbar" lol than GSP comes back and just about snaps Matt Hughes's arm in a armbar. he's an typical farmer boy American dick.
yeah because for one if GSP could go idk say.. literally 2 seconds without tapping he wouldnt have been submitted in the first place (in that round at least) and GSP still talked shit in his retarded canadian accent, then to back up his trash he greases himself up, granted he didnt put it on himself but he wasnt exactly telling his cornerman to stop, and yeah matt hughes couldve broken Royce Gracies arm but decided he shouldnt do that, preservation of another fighter that didnt have to be done
You're an idiot. It doesn't matter if it's 5 seconds in to a fight or 2 seconds left in the round if you're caught in a tight submission you tape, it's simple as that.
You think he actively knew Phil Nurse was putting Vaseline on him? what a joke you are.
Hughes showed respect for a legend who started the whole thing from
yeah it does actually, cuz if you sit there in an armbar for 4:55 (5 seconds in) youre gunna be fucked up. :02 (2 seconds left) youre going to MAYBE feel sore for all of 30 seconds, even if it is damaged adrenaline will block it out anyway
God you're an idiot. I would break the bone through your skin if i had you arm barred for 5 seconds so please shut up. I can tell you don't train at all, and are simply an armchair martial artist. Please stop trying.
if GSP had some sort of defense from his back in the first place, hughes wouldnt have slapped it on so easily, secondly, it showed his awareness cuz he might not have tapped if he realized the clock was almost out. and i dont give a fuck who you are i can stay in anarmbar for 2 fuckin seconds without being a bitch and tapping
Shut up already. We've established you're an arm chair martial artist. Typical know it all. and no you wouldn't last two seconds in my arm bar. You would be squirming and tapping like a little bitch. I'd love to see it. : )
Dude, you can't be serious. please tell me i'm not arguing with the little bitch playing terrible guitar who is in desperate need of a haircut? Little scrawny teenage punk. I would have you twisted up like a fuckin pretzel. lol what a joke. Please stop watching MMA as well. You obviously just don't get it.
yeah you are? but that video was recorded about 6 months ago, plus it doesnt matter how big someone is, my instructor is 147 pounds (7 pounds more than me) and has WRECKED guys from thailand taht are 250 in under a minute, its about technique not size, ask royce gracie about that
Hughes showed respect for a legend who started the whole thing from UFC 1, it wouldn't of mattered if Gracie's arm broke, he would of continued fighting. I seriously dont get the points you're trying to make. In fact by even responding to you in the first place my IQ level has been lowered. Please stop talking about something you know nothing about.
no, because if you watched frank mir vs tim sylvia the fight stopped without sylvia even knowing his arm broke, so the fight wouldve been over, but instead of injuring the hall of famer to get credibility saying that he tapped out a Gracie, he jsut went to something else and might not have gotten the win. and yes i do think he knows because once again in the video "VaselineGate Part 3" 5 of his last 8 opponents, as of the BJ-GSP fight have said that he felt greasy, theres
exactly, he's not even in their class. He's in a lower class. He couldn't even put Swick, or Davis away. Both split decision victories i might add. with only 4 wins in the UFC 3 by way of decisions, and now he gets a title shot? complete bullshit.
You have to be kidding me, Shields is skilled, but not even. Totally overrated. He only wins by predictable LNP, he only barely beat Miller IMO. Sure he held him down the whole fight, but he didn't do any damage.
Penn is a great fighter. so is gsp but its obviouse he cheated there all the evidence in the videos. the commision even flipped out. yet nothing happened. for you to say a fight sucks is just plain dumb. dont bash on someone who has the balls to fight another man in a cage. if you ever did you'd know not to say things as stupid as that.
No dumber than claiming vaseline robbed Penn of the fight. Really - does anyone seriously believe that Penn would have won the fight but for some vaseline (and that`s assuming there was excess vaseline)?? Suck it up and accept the loss and move on., for fuck`s sake.
Penn's a master rubber guarder. Vasoline on GSP's back made a rubber guard impossible to stick. I think that the answer is no, Penn would've still lost...however...who knows and it is still cheating. So with your logic, cheating is ok as long as you know you're going to win anyway. BTW I am a GSP fan. Great champion but I blame his corner the most.
@lebagel I do/did grapple and the term "stick" was simply meant to mean "land" or "stay". Even when Penn grabbed the rubber guard it just simply slid right off.
@TIKOMIX ridiculous, if you don't get it high enough over the neck/uper torso it will slide off every time unless you are used to the GI or rash guards which cause unrealistic friction for MMA fights.
Easy for an old man who has never grappeled to downplay the effects of residual vaseline being rubbed on other parts of the body. Maybe he should do some grappeling with someone who does not have any vaseline on their body and someone who does. Then he can make comments about how this effects the fight.
@mycal64 Hey, Lance Armstrong used to ped, I guess he could beat Anderson Silva too.....btw, if reallly have a daugther, shame on you to mention her ass on a youtube comment
Why not make it an open class free for all, like in Wrestling. Anyone can fight anyone. I'd like to see how GSP does when Brock treats him like a PRISON B!TCH. GSP can vaseline his whole body it won't make a difference vs Brock Lesnar. Also don't forget GSP has had greasegate 3 times. Now that he was caught the third time the rules finally change.
Yea Bj loss to GSP but is still the 155 champ whooping everyones ass how many of you would move up a weight and challenge the champ. I wanna c GSP fight anderson silva or Dan henderson i guarantee he wouldnt look like GSP at 170. So give respect where respect is due.
you're a fucking idiot!!! Yeah, lets take GSP and have him fight Anderson Silve, that way when/if he loses we can call him a shitty fighter..... First off BJ is a fat ass, he used to fight at 186.. he cuts down to 155 to dominate cuz he's BIGGER....
GSP could give trouble to anyone at 185!!! He already spars w/ 205 pounders and out wrestles some of the best!
Wow you are a fucking moron. Dont even start talking shit to the other guy when you're dumber then he is. When did he fight at 186 not counting the gracies? Pick ANY match.. i'll wait.
GSP walks around at 190, obviously its not hard to give people trouble in the same weight class. its not that crazy to spar with 205, BJs been doing and already fought at 205.
Jay... you my friend are a complete dumbass. Go eat a dick and get some knowledge before you dare try to go against me. BJ fought at 191 lbs and Machida was +9 at 220. So again EAT A FUCKING DICK and know you are a fucking faggot
BJ is a 50/50 fighter though. He might dominate a lot of people, but when he loses he gets destroyed. And the 155 weight class is not nearly as competitive as the other ufc weight classes.
BJ may be a smug little a-hole and I was glad he was made to give up(he would of lost grease or not) but GSP fans need to get real, GSP is a cheater plain and simple.
Did he grease himself during the fight(like a.silva did)? No, but after several allegations in the past he seems to have made no attempt at stopping his corner greasing him up and to be honest it makes me question what else he would do to win if he is willing to overlook it.
A cheat should not be overlooked due to popularity...
I don't understand...first he says it's been blown out of proportions and in the end in his 'vaseline 101' he says that it might give fairly good advantage when you rub the leftover on the back
I find it funny how ignorant you Bj Nuthuggers are. Yes the grease was un fair and a rematch and warranted. GSP was winning in the stand up, which has nothing to do with the grease. But honestly, you know deep down GSP is just gonna do the same thing and beat Bj's ass.
i think it would make a difference when trying to wrap ur legs around the body..ur legs would obviously slip off,,but bj just got his ass whooped hands down..
Use logic, BJ penn vs GSP is a big fight, anyone with a brain would know that sh!t load of cameras would be recording them on HD, close up, over head w/e you call them was involved in that fight, I am sure GSP or his TEAM is smart enough not to cheat because it is basically like stealing in a store with 100 cops monitoring you.
Sorry Stitch your a fool..from a long time boxer you know as well as me that VAS had nothing to do with the outcome....too bad that there are some poor sport losers
This rule change makes sense to me. It ensures that people aren't cheating, plain and simple. I am not saying whether he did or didn't happen. Just that this is a good change of the rules.
Notice in the video that Stitch rubs the palm of his right hand on the paper AND the back of the left hand. The back of Nurse's left hand never touches GSP. Just thought I'd point that out.
George cheated SO much that BJ threw in the towel, which is what any sensible person would do when someone's cheating. George's cheating was so outrageous waited until the fight was all the way over instead of complaining sometime during the actual fight. George was such a cheater that BJ had his mommy speak on his behalf at the commission hearing. Yeah, George is such a cheater and BJ is a such a victim of cheating....
GSP and BJ are both are employees, we pay for their service. Who cares who they are in real life, just watch them fight, train harder at your gym, read a book, and bang your girlfriend.
first of all its BJ and i dont want a rematch of gsp and BJ. not cuz i like BJ but because all he would do is make a lesser name for him self, he should be remembered for the man who cleaned the lightweight division. and attempted to be the first man to get two titles at the same time. not the man who got pissed off and went to court for the title and cried for a rematch. GSp is my favorite fighter in all mma, in fact hes my fav athlete. and he would still beat bj penn.
Hey stich I think you need to get a few...maybe make you realize the truth....not just a little pay for uneducated words....I mean uneducated as in cut man terms....YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN !
No.. You are, jackass. And all the rest of you. Vaseline doesn't make you the PFP best fighter ever. Vaseline doesn't make your fists smash into peoples faces. And dominate them. God i'm tired of fucking retards.
Even if he hadn't GSP would have won anyway. That's the second time he beat him. I don't want to see another re-match. God it's just another payday for Penn.
Anyone who thinks any fighter would intentionally cheat like that in one of the most watched main events in UFC history in front of everyone's eyes is completely retarded.
Ok bj has the better pure mma but gsp is ten times the grappler, no one in mma can pass someone's guard like him, he is basically impossible to submit (he made a mistake agents hughes long ago) and he has the best top control in mma. The tinny dime sized amount of Vaseline made probably 0.001% difference.
i dunno man as far as striking goes the grease dont matter but takedown and wrestlinand ground fightin that grease would play a pretty big role in the out come of the fight
" While most people need a decade or more to become a black belt, Penn had, with only three years of training, not only received a black belt but defeated people who had been training their entire lives on his way to winning the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship." and thats why BJ is the best in BBJ in the UFC
Penn also had Millionaire parents who hired the best trainers in the world to train him every day. Maia and Vinny Magalhães are far more successful in BJJ.Maia has submitts his opponents 80% of the time, BJ about 30%. Maia has never had his guard passed, BJ had his passed like 4 or 5 times in his last fight, BJ has never submitted someone from his back, Maia has 4 times. Ask any fighter who has the best BJJ in the UFC 100% will tell you its Demian Maia BY FAR.
ok if it was a split decision or even marginally close then bj can whine all he wants but the fact is he got raped in every round no ammount of fucking vaseline could ever make a difference cos gsp raped him i mean it was never close which is what sum people r missing....unless im forgetting the magical traits of vaseline.....and if it did happen then that is grounds for a court to decide and the ufc to clamp down on further offences but remove his belt gimme a fucking break
for people who don't know, Stitch is a close friend of BJ's, which is why he did this interview. Skewed opinion, that no one should take seriously.
afficial83 2 months ago
@afficial83 your opinion is obviously skewed.. i won't take you serious
overgrow00 1 month ago
Watch the fight. GSP dominates penn. Watch primetime. GSP is working his ass off and Penn is taking days off to sit at the beach. Look at how big GSP is compared to Penn. Penn had no chance in the 1st place, and all the shit he said didnt work. GSP out worked him and when is the last time Penn ended a fight from his guard anyway? Let Penn grease and then see how GSP still dominates him....
dkranmer 3 months ago
gota love stitch
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MetroActiveTV 4 months ago
Even the dude accused of greasing him up admits how things look. Listen to how he explains it.
watch?v=WphJYfo3EKw
TIKOMIX 4 months ago
Even when other fighters say the same thing still the fanboys cant be reasoned with.
watch?v=76eg0Tdd4dM
TIKOMIX 4 months ago
Nate Marquadt also tests positive for steroids, so what does he know. All I know is I watched the fight several times as well as read statements from those who were there like Chuck Liddell, and I have concluded that GSP's corner purposely greased him. Penn's leg slid off of GSP's back without him attempting to pass his guard. Joe Rogan even made a comment about it during the fight. The fight was pretty even until it went to the ground. Chuck is the one who told Dana and the commisioner.
130kali 5 months ago
@130kali "The fight was pretty even until it went to the ground." HUH? What fight did you watch? Were you stoned? GSP dominated the standup in this fight. lol.
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130kali 5 months ago
@ heatgoeson.dude watch more videos it's true maybe gsp didn't want that done but it was done. Plus Nate unfortunately isn't a good source for the truth.
ediot6969 6 months ago 3
Nate Marquadt backed GSP sayin that the allegations of him greasing are laughable and that Penn, Hughes, and Serra need to shut the fuck up and just accept the fact that they lost...THIS IS NATE MARQUADT'S WORDS
HeatGoesOn 7 months ago
I see a lot of people saying BJ could have caught gsp with a triangle but couldnt due to the grease, whilst i agree i dont think that was the main problem, i'm watching a replay of the fight on tv right now and the problem i see is BJ simply cannot hold GSP with the rubbergaurd, GSP is slipping out, allowing him to posture freely and rain down elbows and punches. I believe gps is a great fighter and a great champion but in this case i believe he's very obviously greasing and unfairly winning.
Antifaith29 9 months ago
@AngeloVEnforcer BJ was way too gassed to lock ont he triangle. GSP smashed him.
OnRockIT 9 months ago
what a cheater. No wonder he's the champion
TheMrpalid 11 months ago
@TheMrpalid Yes definitely the vaseline on his fists is the only reason why GSP dominated his last fight against Koschek with the most jab-oriented performance ever. I mean the only reason Koschek eyes swelled up after 5-6 jabs of GSP on him was because of Vaseline! Who knows, maybe he even put vaseline in his blood. No wonder he beat Koschek so bad!
2CSST2 10 months ago
@2CSST2 Vasoline makes a huge difference in grappling. For striking, it wouldn't make a difference. See how you're a retard?
OmJarr 9 months ago
@OmJarr Oh for real! Wow, you must be einstein... idiot
2CSST2 9 months ago
penn probably could have won via submission and vaseline can make that very difficult
TheAdrokk 1 year ago
man mlb player and nfl players used pine tarr for yrs.....yrrrrrs and no one said anything....rubber guard is hard to defend so y not,,,what IF...IFFFFFF some got in an eye and he rubs it out and somegets on his arm and he gets out of a armbar or amaracona...hmmmmmm is he cheating
killorpoop 1 year ago
I think every fighter should allow to use claws on the gloves when fighting GSP, cause Vasaline is GSP's favorite shit! maybe a 2" claw for grappling his cheat ass!!
ujayet 1 year ago
mycal64 10 on 10 with that comment, freakin hilarious
conundo 1 year ago
So where's Lilo? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... No.
gkdrummerboy 1 year ago
Greases St. Pierre
Camaroboys520 1 year ago
grease st.pierre
edwordiard 1 year ago
Guys, it doesn't matter whether GSP would have won with or without Vaseline. The point is that it was still rubbed on his back. That was illegal.
Also, Akiyama did a similar thing against Sakuraba.
MexicanMetlAC 1 year ago
@MexicanMetlAC i agree with you it shouldnt matter how bad Bj looked against GSP. GSP cheated its wrong to do what he did Bj is intitled to a rematch thats that.
slashysmasher 1 year ago
alot of mma fighters grease. ya dont put it on before the fight but put it on for the days leading up to it so your skin soaks it up ad then when ya sweat it makes ya slippery as a mofo. i still think gsp would take bj even without a training camp
donk120k 1 year ago
The fight wasn't even close. BJ was dominated, grease or no grease. The interviewer is retarded to think otherwise.
postitnoteman 1 year ago
@postitnoteman not really the first round was really really close and then the grease was applied inbetween rounds and then it started turning into a lopsided fight because when gsp took penn down penn could never break his posture and if you cant break a guys posture down and your in guard all submissions, and sweeps go out of the window, and the guy postured up can land some heavy leather. watch how close the first round is..
carlsongracieteam 1 year ago
wow whats next? GSP puts proactiv on his face or clipped his toe nails the wrong way and thats how he won the fight? Bj penn fan boys are sore losers
trvsrdrgz 1 year ago
doesnt matter a win is a win and hes champ
bob2012isfake 1 year ago
@bob2012isfake yes i agree, he is champ. thats undisputable, its a fact... however, someone who studies the videos of his fights can more than likely see an onpening when he flies his hands open to go for a takedown, one good muai thai or karate fighter could take him out ie:lyoto machida/anderson silva
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
Edward James Olmos!
unabomberman 1 year ago
@ gomilkndetf you mean to tell me your 147 lbs instructor beat beat brock lesnar or fadors ass dont think so
bob2012isfake 1 year ago
sure if he meant that he would have said that, ive seen a lot of light fellas do away with huge dudes and if u havnt uv neva seen a japanese fight card
pictman1 1 year ago
no i havent, i could care less about japanese fighting, and thank you for proving my point? but yeah it could fuck up your arm.. if you dont put any resistance to it. if you try to even lean your shoulders up it wont work for too long, but 2 seconds is a short time
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
brock lesnar has 0 technique, he bum rushes and throws as many punches as he can in a short amount of time
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
gsp is pound for pound best fighter because every pound of him is covered in grease.
I have yet to see gsp knock anyone out except hughs. Now we know why hughs didn't try taking him down.
GSP=grease someone please.
888yme 1 year ago
lmao i agree and with the hughes he caught him on the downside of his career anyways, after thiago alves thats pretty much it for him, still a hall of famer
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
St. Pierre is the best pound for pound fighter in the welter weight class by far. There is NOONE in that division who can out class him. If you ask me, GSP should shut up all the haters with a first round knockout to penn, then match it with a submission victory over anderson silva. IF that happened, the only word that comes to mind is just plain EPIC
londoner7991 1 year ago
he looks like Hiram lodge, Veronica's lodge's father in Archie comics
tanzsab 1 year ago
Hey stich too bad money took over your integrity! FOOL!
MrFreedomrequired 1 year ago
suck my dick gsp did not fuckin cheat dumb shit
990South 2 years ago
there is a video of vaseline being applied to his back and that is illegal. and we all know video doesn't lie. your just a stupid fan boy. greases st-pierre is a cheater end of story.
forbesfoofighters 1 year ago
And i suppose the Vaseline helped Georges beat BJ in the stand up game as well? landing jab after jab after Superman punch? lol GSP is far from a cheater.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
REGARDLESS if he was out striking bj gsp had vaseline applied to his body that is illegal if the fight never went to the ground you might have an argument but it did and when it did gsp was sweating olive oil all over penn.
forbesfoofighters 1 year ago
And i suppose you think if there was a GSP vs. Penn 3 there would be a different outcome? To say GSP is an intentional cheater is just ludicrous. He is a stand up classy guy, and the best possible ambassador for the sport. give it up.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
he is a stand up guy so there is no way he can cheat right. what dont you fucking morons get THERE IS VIDEO OF IT BEING ALLIED TO HIS BACK AND BICEPS! it is not relevant if he is a better fighter than penn without it he cheated there is proof end of story. thats like saying mark mcgwire could still hit runs without steroids so who cares if he used them.
forbesfoofighters 1 year ago
Wow you truly are an idiot. I'm not disputing the video of Phil Nurse (unintentionally) applying Vaseline. You said Georges is a cheater, so you truly think Georges intentionally cheated? what a goof.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
if you admit that he had vaseline on his body then your admitting it wasn't a fair fight nice fail bud.
forbesfoofighters 1 year ago
They wiped if off almost immediately, watch the tape. BJ lost fair and square. twice. Go listen to some Arcade of fire you little fag.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
the officials were pushing nurses' hands off of gsp's shoulders.
how did the cut man not notice the man in the red blazer pushing his hands then wiping down gsp for 2 rounds?
888yme 1 year ago
Another unsurprising youtube goof. GSP could be covered in sandpaper, and the same outcome would occur. Stop hating and whining and do something productive with your life. Now with all do respect, fuck off.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
and what do you think made BJ lose his high guard? the jabs and supermans? or the vaseline?
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
What do i think made BJ lose his guard? Maybe the complete and total domination by the freight train on top of him. In fact you watch the fight again and see Georges pass Bj's full guard to side control twice. and at no point when he was passing the guard did bj touch his back or shoulders. mind you they were wiped off every single round as well. BJ lost, it's simple as that, get over it. The same result would occur if they fought a third time, and Georges could be covered in sand paper.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
watch another video and an actual doctor says that in order to get it off of him in a matter of seconds, they would have to pour rubbing alcohol on him, and theres other related videos that show BJ putting high guard and without the "frieght train" even touching him they slid downm they didnt fall, they werent repositioned, they slid down from the slickness
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
VaselineGate Part 3 and watch this video and fast forward to about 3:10 then talk to me
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
@990South ummm yea he did he was caught on video in the ring you ignorant fuckin dumbass
crashdummy40 1 year ago
ok well, what do you call putting a substance in an area where it is not allowed? and GSP wasnt exactly telling him to stop
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
even if it was by accident it still happened
mmagamer4life 2 years ago
stich duran fucking piece of shit stich duran did put vaseline on matt hughes right shoulder on the matt hughes gsp third fight fucking jackass
jeunegaillard 2 years ago
@jeunegaillard, i bet
GoMilkndETF 2 years ago
i think the point is that although gsp is a sik fighter, his cornerman premeditated the action against a fighter renowned for submissions..so u get grease on ur neck and shoulders/arms?the two main areas that are attacked in jujitsu...ur as good as the people you hang with and in my mind that lowers gsp character
TheOsteoboy 2 years ago
ooooo some crybabys other then bj penn whata surprise. If bj penn will cry about vaseline cause hes jealous of his body and gettin owned by him twice obviously other people who got smashed by gsp will agree, why would they like gsp? there not his friend (obviously) and he helped ruin there career like get a fucking brain guys lots of fighters are crybabys especially pussys like bj penn who jus practice bjj and sit on his ass eating buritos. Sherk is str8up if bj won he wouldn't of mentioned IT!
dukeslaps 2 years ago
Their is video proof that Vaseline was put on his back.Their is proof that when you mix Vaseline and water(like he did when he poured water on his back after the Vaseline was applied) it makes you slippery.Your an idiot to think Penn would keep his mouth shut after GSP's corner man cheated.I still think GSP would have one but his corner did cheat.Your right Sherk is stright up and he also said that that GSP was slippery like he had grease on him.Watch the video before you make ignorant comments.
Andy81293 2 years ago
@dukeslaps GSP cheated, dumb ass!
mrivanoliver 2 years ago
@dukeslaps dude you much be fucking stupid if you think he got owned the first fight... you need to stop being a fuckin poser acting like you know anything about the fight game.... whats up with 5 outta the last 9 fighters bitching about gsp feeling greasy???? ooooo yea its cause HE FUCKING CHEATED AND GOT RUBBED DOWN WITH VASELINE
welshmob 2 years ago
there were other people such as sean sherk that said in 2005 way before any of these allegations came about that he was impossible to grab because he was slippery, also matt serra and matt hughes and if you can find more of a classy guy than matt hughes you let me know about it
GoMilkndETF 2 years ago
Matt Hughes, for all the respect i have for him is one of the biggest douchebags in MMA
darkmoonshade 1 year ago
in what way? PLEASE tell me
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
well basically did you see how he acted on the ultimate fighter when he was assistant coach and when he was coach? he doesnt seem to respect anyone because he thinks he is so much better, just my 2 cents though i respect your opinion
darkmoonshade 1 year ago
Are you serious? "if you can find more of a classy guy than Matt Hughes you let me know about it"
Matt Hughes is an ignorant bastard. Made fun of GSP constantly during TUF. even saying to Georges " learn how to defend an armbar" lol than GSP comes back and just about snaps Matt Hughes's arm in a armbar. he's an typical farmer boy American dick.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
yeah because for one if GSP could go idk say.. literally 2 seconds without tapping he wouldnt have been submitted in the first place (in that round at least) and GSP still talked shit in his retarded canadian accent, then to back up his trash he greases himself up, granted he didnt put it on himself but he wasnt exactly telling his cornerman to stop, and yeah matt hughes couldve broken Royce Gracies arm but decided he shouldnt do that, preservation of another fighter that didnt have to be done
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
You're an idiot. It doesn't matter if it's 5 seconds in to a fight or 2 seconds left in the round if you're caught in a tight submission you tape, it's simple as that.
You think he actively knew Phil Nurse was putting Vaseline on him? what a joke you are.
Hughes showed respect for a legend who started the whole thing from
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
yeah it does actually, cuz if you sit there in an armbar for 4:55 (5 seconds in) youre gunna be fucked up. :02 (2 seconds left) youre going to MAYBE feel sore for all of 30 seconds, even if it is damaged adrenaline will block it out anyway
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dirtyminded604 1 year ago
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God you're an idiot. I would break the bone through your skin if i had you arm barred for 5 seconds so please shut up. I can tell you don't train at all, and are simply an armchair martial artist. Please stop trying.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
if GSP had some sort of defense from his back in the first place, hughes wouldnt have slapped it on so easily, secondly, it showed his awareness cuz he might not have tapped if he realized the clock was almost out. and i dont give a fuck who you are i can stay in anarmbar for 2 fuckin seconds without being a bitch and tapping
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
Shut up already. We've established you're an arm chair martial artist. Typical know it all. and no you wouldn't last two seconds in my arm bar. You would be squirming and tapping like a little bitch. I'd love to see it. : )
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
Dude, you can't be serious. please tell me i'm not arguing with the little bitch playing terrible guitar who is in desperate need of a haircut? Little scrawny teenage punk. I would have you twisted up like a fuckin pretzel. lol what a joke. Please stop watching MMA as well. You obviously just don't get it.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
yeah you are? but that video was recorded about 6 months ago, plus it doesnt matter how big someone is, my instructor is 147 pounds (7 pounds more than me) and has WRECKED guys from thailand taht are 250 in under a minute, its about technique not size, ask royce gracie about that
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
and no 2 seconds is easily enuff time to fuck ur arm up
pictman1 1 year ago
Hughes showed respect for a legend who started the whole thing from UFC 1, it wouldn't of mattered if Gracie's arm broke, he would of continued fighting. I seriously dont get the points you're trying to make. In fact by even responding to you in the first place my IQ level has been lowered. Please stop talking about something you know nothing about.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
no, because if you watched frank mir vs tim sylvia the fight stopped without sylvia even knowing his arm broke, so the fight wouldve been over, but instead of injuring the hall of famer to get credibility saying that he tapped out a Gracie, he jsut went to something else and might not have gotten the win. and yes i do think he knows because once again in the video "VaselineGate Part 3" 5 of his last 8 opponents, as of the BJ-GSP fight have said that he felt greasy, theres
1.matt hughes (future
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
Can't wait till Hardy gets smashed. boy will you hater be really pissed then. But i suppose you'll have some excuse though. cant wait.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
Hardy is not the same class of fighter that Penn and Hughes are.
888yme 1 year ago
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dirtyminded604 1 year ago
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exactly, he's not even in their class. He's in a lower class. He couldn't even put Swick, or Davis away. Both split decision victories i might add. with only 4 wins in the UFC 3 by way of decisions, and now he gets a title shot? complete bullshit.
dirtyminded604 1 year ago
hardly anyone could be
GoMilkndETF 1 year ago
Jake Shields will beat both of the alphabet boys, GBSJ and P.
oakmantex 2 years ago
You have to be kidding me, Shields is skilled, but not even. Totally overrated. He only wins by predictable LNP, he only barely beat Miller IMO. Sure he held him down the whole fight, but he didn't do any damage.
eleventhsun 2 years ago
stop defending bj crybaby penn! he lost fair and square so he needs to shut the fuck up.
DevilzSpeciez 2 years ago
Penn is a great fighter. so is gsp but its obviouse he cheated there all the evidence in the videos. the commision even flipped out. yet nothing happened. for you to say a fight sucks is just plain dumb. dont bash on someone who has the balls to fight another man in a cage. if you ever did you'd know not to say things as stupid as that.
SavageRoyale 2 years ago
penn=sux, penn had no chance against gsp penn gave up and thats it.
gspfan93 2 years ago
new rules keeps stitch in the job!
RazeenRed 2 years ago
Penn = Owns
thrillinandkillin 2 years ago
No dumber than claiming vaseline robbed Penn of the fight. Really - does anyone seriously believe that Penn would have won the fight but for some vaseline (and that`s assuming there was excess vaseline)?? Suck it up and accept the loss and move on., for fuck`s sake.
mycal64 2 years ago
I love your words.
IntoTheEternity 2 years ago
Penn's a master rubber guarder. Vasoline on GSP's back made a rubber guard impossible to stick. I think that the answer is no, Penn would've still lost...however...who knows and it is still cheating. So with your logic, cheating is ok as long as you know you're going to win anyway. BTW I am a GSP fan. Great champion but I blame his corner the most.
TIKOMIX 2 years ago 14
great point; only thing is that when gsp had different corner men, he was still greasing then too; coincidence? i think not
ag8416 2 years ago
@TIKOMIX Holy someone who uses logic
roddy308 1 year ago
@TIKOMIX Master rubber guarder?? watch mastering the system and you'll see what eddie bravo has to say.
Penn has been using the rubber guard but hes not a master at it
QofLife69 10 months ago 5
@QofLife69 Which episode does Eddie talk about Penn's RG?
TIKOMIX 4 months ago
@TIKOMIX rubber guard doesn't "stick" based on friction. You don't grapple.
lebagel 4 months ago
@lebagel I do/did grapple and the term "stick" was simply meant to mean "land" or "stay". Even when Penn grabbed the rubber guard it just simply slid right off.
TIKOMIX 4 months ago
@TIKOMIX ridiculous, if you don't get it high enough over the neck/uper torso it will slide off every time unless you are used to the GI or rash guards which cause unrealistic friction for MMA fights.
lebagel 4 months ago
@lebagel insane dude. Even when Penn grabbed his ankle it slid off with no effort. Dude just go watch the hearing and see how they ruled.
TIKOMIX 4 months ago
it has happened intentionally on many occasions. panama lewis etc
rynigma8 2 years ago
Easy for an old man who has never grappeled to downplay the effects of residual vaseline being rubbed on other parts of the body. Maybe he should do some grappeling with someone who does not have any vaseline on their body and someone who does. Then he can make comments about how this effects the fight.
sclaysdharma 2 years ago
Hey. I put vaseline on my 4 month old baby`s ass. Guess she could beat Penn too..
mycal64 2 years ago 21
penn should have won seeing as he greased his "member" before the fight, making him the first one to cheat really, lol
popomomo12 2 years ago
LMAO
whatforfree 2 years ago
wow.. possibly the dumbest analogy in the history of mankind. congrats!
psych0manti5 2 years ago
no; that was a great analogy
ag8416 2 years ago
@mycal64 ur one sick sob.
peraja 1 year ago
@peraja As in easing painful 'nappy rash' - which makes u the sick sob if you were thinking something different.
mycal64 1 year ago
@mycal64 AHAHHAHA man that was funny.
randumb1234 1 year ago
@mycal64 lmfao
roddy308 1 year ago
@mycal64 Hey, Lance Armstrong used to ped, I guess he could beat Anderson Silva too.....btw, if reallly have a daugther, shame on you to mention her ass on a youtube comment
egrojodnamra 1 year ago
@mycal64
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome!
thejbiznizexperience 1 year ago
Why not make it an open class free for all, like in Wrestling. Anyone can fight anyone. I'd like to see how GSP does when Brock treats him like a PRISON B!TCH. GSP can vaseline his whole body it won't make a difference vs Brock Lesnar. Also don't forget GSP has had greasegate 3 times. Now that he was caught the third time the rules finally change.
TheBigVisc 2 years ago
gsp kicked penn's ass
Yurg24 2 years ago
Blow Job Penn does not how to talk a loss
UnderDog988 2 years ago
baby,baby jay Penn,is one big looser,lol
wildwolves8 2 years ago
alright alright, GSP > BJ Penn Cheating or Not he still won.
so everybody chill, you cant turn back time and slap the Vaseline from that witch doctor or something. so chillll.
ButtSecksChristian 2 years ago
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GSP has been lying this whole time.Here is a video of him
cheating in UFC 56 Full force against Sherk.VIDEO..
Perhaps Penn was telling the truth all along.
At the 1:00 mark you will see David greasing GSP before UFC 56 vs Sherk.
CHECK OUT MY PROFILE
Jacob8812 2 years ago
Yea Bj loss to GSP but is still the 155 champ whooping everyones ass how many of you would move up a weight and challenge the champ. I wanna c GSP fight anderson silva or Dan henderson i guarantee he wouldnt look like GSP at 170. So give respect where respect is due.
56nuf 2 years ago 2
you're a fucking idiot!!! Yeah, lets take GSP and have him fight Anderson Silve, that way when/if he loses we can call him a shitty fighter..... First off BJ is a fat ass, he used to fight at 186.. he cuts down to 155 to dominate cuz he's BIGGER....
GSP could give trouble to anyone at 185!!! He already spars w/ 205 pounders and out wrestles some of the best!
JayCei23 2 years ago
Agreed.
GitarrPwnz 2 years ago
Wow you are a fucking moron. Dont even start talking shit to the other guy when you're dumber then he is. When did he fight at 186 not counting the gracies? Pick ANY match.. i'll wait.
GSP walks around at 190, obviously its not hard to give people trouble in the same weight class. its not that crazy to spar with 205, BJs been doing and already fought at 205.
PsychItsMike 2 years ago
he fought Lyota Machida at 186 you fucking fag!!!!
JayCei23 2 years ago
Jay... you my friend are a complete dumbass. Go eat a dick and get some knowledge before you dare try to go against me. BJ fought at 191 lbs and Machida was +9 at 220. So again EAT A FUCKING DICK and know you are a fucking faggot
PsychItsMike 2 years ago
hahaha, so you're feeling so proud huh.. I was off by what.... 5lbs????? 186, 191.. still proves my point you jackass lol.
JayCei23 2 years ago
BJ is a 50/50 fighter though. He might dominate a lot of people, but when he loses he gets destroyed. And the 155 weight class is not nearly as competitive as the other ufc weight classes.
GitarrPwnz 2 years ago
BJ may be a smug little a-hole and I was glad he was made to give up(he would of lost grease or not) but GSP fans need to get real, GSP is a cheater plain and simple.
Did he grease himself during the fight(like a.silva did)? No, but after several allegations in the past he seems to have made no attempt at stopping his corner greasing him up and to be honest it makes me question what else he would do to win if he is willing to overlook it.
A cheat should not be overlooked due to popularity...
Chousakan 2 years ago
or thinking
hiimrichhehe 2 years ago
GSP DOMINATED BJ "THE LITTLE BITCH" PENN...no drama, co controversy GSP IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL HE IS MMA !!!!!
koko996 2 years ago 2
I don't understand...first he says it's been blown out of proportions and in the end in his 'vaseline 101' he says that it might give fairly good advantage when you rub the leftover on the back
lasku0007 2 years ago
Stupid ass GSP Nutthuggers... it's funny how ignorant you all are
surenopimp 2 years ago
I find it funny how ignorant you Bj Nuthuggers are. Yes the grease was un fair and a rematch and warranted. GSP was winning in the stand up, which has nothing to do with the grease. But honestly, you know deep down GSP is just gonna do the same thing and beat Bj's ass.
HumanTarget420 2 years ago 5
bj performed like a bag of shit in that fight to begin with. there was no energy from him at all the grease wouldnt have made a difference
MODspartan 2 years ago 2
i think it would make a difference when trying to wrap ur legs around the body..ur legs would obviously slip off,,but bj just got his ass whooped hands down..
killeronekill 2 years ago
he wasnt holding on to him you dumb ass,, he was just laying his much bigger body on top of bj....wake the fuck up..
valleyboy808 2 years ago
Use logic, BJ penn vs GSP is a big fight, anyone with a brain would know that sh!t load of cameras would be recording them on HD, close up, over head w/e you call them was involved in that fight, I am sure GSP or his TEAM is smart enough not to cheat because it is basically like stealing in a store with 100 cops monitoring you.
Seikima 2 years ago
Great point!
jaapa07 2 years ago
Sorry Stitch your a fool..from a long time boxer you know as well as me that VAS had nothing to do with the outcome....too bad that there are some poor sport losers
smacmillan 2 years ago
This rule change makes sense to me. It ensures that people aren't cheating, plain and simple. I am not saying whether he did or didn't happen. Just that this is a good change of the rules.
undtiny 2 years ago
Notice in the video that Stitch rubs the palm of his right hand on the paper AND the back of the left hand. The back of Nurse's left hand never touches GSP. Just thought I'd point that out.
AikidoSaintTKE 2 years ago
George cheated SO much that BJ threw in the towel, which is what any sensible person would do when someone's cheating. George's cheating was so outrageous waited until the fight was all the way over instead of complaining sometime during the actual fight. George was such a cheater that BJ had his mommy speak on his behalf at the commission hearing. Yeah, George is such a cheater and BJ is a such a victim of cheating....
kommisar 2 years ago 6
hahaha amen....
emptyel 2 years ago
GSP and BJ are both are employees, we pay for their service. Who cares who they are in real life, just watch them fight, train harder at your gym, read a book, and bang your girlfriend.
nomilkforsanta 2 years ago 3
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With all the evidence out there, I can't believe people are saying bj is a sore loser.
garyhgaryh 2 years ago
GSP didn't cheat. Penn is just a sore loser. His conditioning was for shit and it cost him the fight. Simple as that.
BehindShyGuysMask 2 years ago 6
first of all its BJ and i dont want a rematch of gsp and BJ. not cuz i like BJ but because all he would do is make a lesser name for him self, he should be remembered for the man who cleaned the lightweight division. and attempted to be the first man to get two titles at the same time. not the man who got pissed off and went to court for the title and cried for a rematch. GSp is my favorite fighter in all mma, in fact hes my fav athlete. and he would still beat bj penn.
gunfighterdrummer 2 years ago 4
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BUT GSP cheated man and you know it!
Soap and water gets the Vaseline not a few rags,,Sherk.Hughes and Jason Miller all say the same as VJ Penn
gottiUdaMan 2 years ago
It wouldn't haved changed the outcome of the fight because Gsp smashed his face in from sidemount for the last three rounds.
plasmathunderdx 2 years ago 2
Hey stich I think you need to get a few...maybe make you realize the truth....not just a little pay for uneducated words....I mean uneducated as in cut man terms....YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN !
smacmillan 2 years ago
stabyourcat....
GSP cheated, you are retarded for not looking at the facts.. look at the video "bjpenn greasegate"
Are you ignorant?
kelsauce531 2 years ago
No.. You are, jackass. And all the rest of you. Vaseline doesn't make you the PFP best fighter ever. Vaseline doesn't make your fists smash into peoples faces. And dominate them. God i'm tired of fucking retards.
imaslut0123 2 years ago
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BgamerXxX 2 years ago
you are a moron
bradkinnersly 2 years ago
Even if he hadn't GSP would have won anyway. That's the second time he beat him. I don't want to see another re-match. God it's just another payday for Penn.
yak6ex 2 years ago
Anyone who thinks any fighter would intentionally cheat like that in one of the most watched main events in UFC history in front of everyone's eyes is completely retarded.
stabyourcat 2 years ago 5
i think bj is a good striker but not as goop as gsp so they basiclly took away bj's only advantage
forgottendomiku 2 years ago
Ok bj has the better pure mma but gsp is ten times the grappler, no one in mma can pass someone's guard like him, he is basically impossible to submit (he made a mistake agents hughes long ago) and he has the best top control in mma. The tinny dime sized amount of Vaseline made probably 0.001% difference.
ben1ben2ben1 2 years ago
i dunno man as far as striking goes the grease dont matter but takedown and wrestlinand ground fightin that grease would play a pretty big role in the out come of the fight
forgottendomiku 2 years ago
the vaseline didnt make gsp stronger or faster or better at takedowns. bj should think about that week he took off to go to kona and relax
oglala 2 years ago
The only thing GSP greased was Penn's asshole.
kevjo66 2 years ago 8
" While most people need a decade or more to become a black belt, Penn had, with only three years of training, not only received a black belt but defeated people who had been training their entire lives on his way to winning the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship." and thats why BJ is the best in BBJ in the UFC
thin0z 2 years ago
Penn also had Millionaire parents who hired the best trainers in the world to train him every day. Maia and Vinny Magalhães are far more successful in BJJ.Maia has submitts his opponents 80% of the time, BJ about 30%. Maia has never had his guard passed, BJ had his passed like 4 or 5 times in his last fight, BJ has never submitted someone from his back, Maia has 4 times. Ask any fighter who has the best BJJ in the UFC 100% will tell you its Demian Maia BY FAR.
Who you have never herd of.
ben1ben2ben1 2 years ago 2
that doesn't make him the best, that means that he has loads of talent and is a quick learner.
LSissoko 2 years ago
ok if it was a split decision or even marginally close then bj can whine all he wants but the fact is he got raped in every round no ammount of fucking vaseline could ever make a difference cos gsp raped him i mean it was never close which is what sum people r missing....unless im forgetting the magical traits of vaseline.....and if it did happen then that is grounds for a court to decide and the ufc to clamp down on further offences but remove his belt gimme a fucking break
HybridPhoenix 2 years ago 3
I hope thiago tears gsp completely apart... gsp obviously cheated fess up and stop pretending to be the ufc's golden boy.
Greenweenie27 2 years ago
you should stfu, seriously. gsp didnt cheat.
nokalite 2 years ago
Thiago has been busted before for steroids and diuretics.
So... yeah GSP greases, but which is worse?
I hope it's a double knockout. =/
ByronC900 2 years ago
hahahaha, noone will tear gsp apart bitch
tapper991 2 years ago