1) Where did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith should be based exclusively on a book? 2) Other than the specific command to John to pen the Revelation, where did Jesus tell His apostles to write anything down and compile it into an authoritative book? 3) Where in the New Testament do the apostles tell future generations that the Christian faith will be based solely on a book?
Sorry, but if u actually think that.ours is the only church that's got pedifiles who infiltrated it, your very nieve. The protestant church has coverups that rival the Catholics. Christ said the gates of hell would not prevail, which means there would be attacks from within and out; we've had our share of turbulence, but we're over 2000 years strong. Because God's church is protected from destruction. Humans sin and make mistakes, which is who makeup all churches. Cast Ye the first stone.
@whatzupholly That only shows your church is no different from all other churches. You are all deceived and are being used by Satan. You quoted Christ's statement that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church and yet you haven't even noticed that your church has already become Satan's synagogue promoting evil man-made doctrines and harboring child molesters and homosexual priests. God rained fire on Sodom for this offense and your church is trying to hide it.
@mpenaco LOL! It seems to me that you do not have a valid argument-you keep calling names and ignoring facts. give. You can't stay on one argument at a time because you can't argue it further than you have-once scripture contradicts you-you move one-we call that "shot gunning" your opponent. Reality is your argument has no merit-you misquote scripture. Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself: how then shall his kingdom stand? Jesus Christ said that btw.
@mpenaco In addition to that; by your comment about "sleeping" You again are only "cherry picking" out part of the passage in 1 Cor 23-you have to go back to before that to get it into the context in which Christ was speaking-He is speaking about how by man came death and by man the resurrection of the dead. We don't die when we go to heaven-our souls are not sleep. Are you 7th day adventist? Because their origin started with a man that is not Christ in 1863...sounds like satan to me.
@mpenaco Again, child molesters and homosexuals are in all churches; all people are sinful and can be pulled away; that is why we need Christ. Again; your argument doesn't hold water so you resort to shotgun blasts of insults that show lack of knowledge. Go to the library; get some history books and look up for yourself; don't take someone elses word for it. Check your facts.
@mpenaco it is not an idol-and idol is itself worshiped- do you take pictures of yourself and family? Do you consider that worshiping an idol? Or what about statues of famous people throughout history? What about the statue of the men holding the American flag...are those idols? No, they are not; not anymore than this is. It is meant to inspire the heart-to put a face on what we know is real-not the statue. God is real, Jesus is real and so is His Blessed Mother...Luke 1:28
@whatzupholly That's exactly what God forbids - putting a face, making a physical image to represent anything in heaven or on earth. Your family pictures and the statues of famous people are not used in worship so they do not compete with God and therefore are not against God's command on idolatry. But with Mary it is different. You build images of her for the purpose of worship. You bow down to her, call her for protection and mercy - things that only God can give.
@mpenaco You obviously know nothing about being Catholic; which your words clearly depict- I guess then God and Jesus Christ aren't famous? After you fully read Christian history; come talk to me. Christ gave us His Church before His death and resurrection...He didn't change His mind 1500 years later...
If Any Catholic you know says we worship Mary-they aren't real Catholics. We only worship the Trinity-Father, Son, Holy Ghost. Rosary is scriptural prayer-meditation on the life of Christ.
@whatzupholly "Christ didn't change His mind 1500 year later." Yet your church made God change His mind by promoting the making of graven images of saints and bowing and praying to them and calling them as though they can hear in utter defiance of God's command against the making of graven images for worship. Your rosary magnifies and glorifies Mary, not God. See how many times you call Mary in your rosary. Then compare it to how many times you call God.
@mpenaco you just made my point-you know nothing about which you speak. I am sorry that you are ignorant to the truth. Why don't you go study history-study what Catholicism actually means and then, I will be happy to discuss this with you. You are spouting off things you've heard in church or from pastors or friends. Which makes you ignorant (which means without knowledge). I, however, have studied history, read the Holy Bible and have been Catholic since birth. What you speak of is false.
@whatzupholly If your catholicism is the true church of God, it will strive to protect the least of our brothers and will not try to hide sexual perverts and child molesters among its ranks. God's church upholds the teachings of Jesus, not trample them. Why are molestation victims half century ago are resorting to civil authorities to seek justice? Because they cannot find it in your church. God will hide his face from you, He will be ashamed to claim His church failed miserably.
@whatzupholly Your knowledge of church history has blinded and corrupted your mind to the truth of Scripture. You are no different from the scribes and pharisees of Jesus' day, falsely claiming to be the true church of God because they have church history on their side and they have Abraham and the prophets for their ancestors. But what did Jesus say? "You hypocrites, brood of vipers and blind guides". Repent and believe the Gospel.
@mpenaco I am not trying to change your mind or your faith. Why do you feel it necessary to make comments on other people's pages. If you think you are going to change their minds you are wrong. If you don't think that we can quote scripture just as well and have it all back up what we say-you are wrong there too. We do not call upon Mary as if she were God-she is not. We ask for her to pray for us. Don't you ask people to pray for you?
@whatzupholly Can Mary hear you when you call to her? Scripture says NO!
"For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming" (1 Cor. 15:22-23)
Sorry my friend, your Mary is still asleep and cannot hear or respond to your petitions. But don't worry, there's good news: she will be raised at Jesus' coming. So stop calling her because she can't hear you.
@willthacheerleader18 So typical of deceived catholic who worships idols and calls the dead instead of God. Repent and believe the Gospel. Listen to who Jesus claims His true mother is:
"For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother." (Mat. 12:50).
@mpenaco that verse has nothing to do with it, infact I was studying that verse earlier today. Typical sola scriptura who takes verses out of context. Christ was saying more importantly is his spiritual family than earthly (as well as ours), but Mary IS part of his spiritual family as well. He said those who beleive are, she is the first to beleive, the first Christian.
I was protestant and converted to catholicism after reading the bible, thank you very much.
@willthacheerleader18 Listen to how Jesus rebuked the woman who tried to magnify and glorify Mary in front of the crowd.
"While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed." But He said, "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it." (Lk. 11:27-28)
@mpenaco look closely. that is not a rebuke. He says that ALL who hear the word of God are blessed (saying not only Mary is, but she is as well). Who was FIRST to hear the Word and belive and observe it? Mary. "Hail, Full of Grace! The Lord is With Thee!" "The Holy Spirit will overshadow you!" "Blessed are you among women!" "Blessed are you who beleived!" "All nations shall call me blessed!" "Behold, i am the handmaiden of the Lord!" "Mary kept all these things in her heart" etc.
davidjhickey 10 months ago
Where in the Bible is God’s Word restricted
only to what is written down?
davidjhickey 10 months ago
Sorry, but if u actually think that.ours is the only church that's got pedifiles who infiltrated it, your very nieve. The protestant church has coverups that rival the Catholics. Christ said the gates of hell would not prevail, which means there would be attacks from within and out; we've had our share of turbulence, but we're over 2000 years strong. Because God's church is protected from destruction. Humans sin and make mistakes, which is who makeup all churches. Cast Ye the first stone.
whatzupholly 10 months ago
@whatzupholly That only shows your church is no different from all other churches. You are all deceived and are being used by Satan. You quoted Christ's statement that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church and yet you haven't even noticed that your church has already become Satan's synagogue promoting evil man-made doctrines and harboring child molesters and homosexual priests. God rained fire on Sodom for this offense and your church is trying to hide it.
mpenaco 10 months ago
@mpenaco LOL! It seems to me that you do not have a valid argument-you keep calling names and ignoring facts. give. You can't stay on one argument at a time because you can't argue it further than you have-once scripture contradicts you-you move one-we call that "shot gunning" your opponent. Reality is your argument has no merit-you misquote scripture. Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself: how then shall his kingdom stand? Jesus Christ said that btw.
whatzupholly 10 months ago
@mpenaco In addition to that; by your comment about "sleeping" You again are only "cherry picking" out part of the passage in 1 Cor 23-you have to go back to before that to get it into the context in which Christ was speaking-He is speaking about how by man came death and by man the resurrection of the dead. We don't die when we go to heaven-our souls are not sleep. Are you 7th day adventist? Because their origin started with a man that is not Christ in 1863...sounds like satan to me.
whatzupholly 10 months ago
@mpenaco Again, child molesters and homosexuals are in all churches; all people are sinful and can be pulled away; that is why we need Christ. Again; your argument doesn't hold water so you resort to shotgun blasts of insults that show lack of knowledge. Go to the library; get some history books and look up for yourself; don't take someone elses word for it. Check your facts.
whatzupholly 10 months ago
"You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." (Ex. 20:4)
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco it is not an idol-and idol is itself worshiped- do you take pictures of yourself and family? Do you consider that worshiping an idol? Or what about statues of famous people throughout history? What about the statue of the men holding the American flag...are those idols? No, they are not; not anymore than this is. It is meant to inspire the heart-to put a face on what we know is real-not the statue. God is real, Jesus is real and so is His Blessed Mother...Luke 1:28
whatzupholly 10 months ago
@whatzupholly That's exactly what God forbids - putting a face, making a physical image to represent anything in heaven or on earth. Your family pictures and the statues of famous people are not used in worship so they do not compete with God and therefore are not against God's command on idolatry. But with Mary it is different. You build images of her for the purpose of worship. You bow down to her, call her for protection and mercy - things that only God can give.
mpenaco 10 months ago
@mpenaco You obviously know nothing about being Catholic; which your words clearly depict- I guess then God and Jesus Christ aren't famous? After you fully read Christian history; come talk to me. Christ gave us His Church before His death and resurrection...He didn't change His mind 1500 years later...
If Any Catholic you know says we worship Mary-they aren't real Catholics. We only worship the Trinity-Father, Son, Holy Ghost. Rosary is scriptural prayer-meditation on the life of Christ.
whatzupholly 10 months ago
@whatzupholly "Christ didn't change His mind 1500 year later." Yet your church made God change His mind by promoting the making of graven images of saints and bowing and praying to them and calling them as though they can hear in utter defiance of God's command against the making of graven images for worship. Your rosary magnifies and glorifies Mary, not God. See how many times you call Mary in your rosary. Then compare it to how many times you call God.
mpenaco 10 months ago
@mpenaco you just made my point-you know nothing about which you speak. I am sorry that you are ignorant to the truth. Why don't you go study history-study what Catholicism actually means and then, I will be happy to discuss this with you. You are spouting off things you've heard in church or from pastors or friends. Which makes you ignorant (which means without knowledge). I, however, have studied history, read the Holy Bible and have been Catholic since birth. What you speak of is false.
whatzupholly 10 months ago
@whatzupholly If your catholicism is the true church of God, it will strive to protect the least of our brothers and will not try to hide sexual perverts and child molesters among its ranks. God's church upholds the teachings of Jesus, not trample them. Why are molestation victims half century ago are resorting to civil authorities to seek justice? Because they cannot find it in your church. God will hide his face from you, He will be ashamed to claim His church failed miserably.
mpenaco 10 months ago
@whatzupholly Your knowledge of church history has blinded and corrupted your mind to the truth of Scripture. You are no different from the scribes and pharisees of Jesus' day, falsely claiming to be the true church of God because they have church history on their side and they have Abraham and the prophets for their ancestors. But what did Jesus say? "You hypocrites, brood of vipers and blind guides". Repent and believe the Gospel.
mpenaco 10 months ago
@mpenaco I am not trying to change your mind or your faith. Why do you feel it necessary to make comments on other people's pages. If you think you are going to change their minds you are wrong. If you don't think that we can quote scripture just as well and have it all back up what we say-you are wrong there too. We do not call upon Mary as if she were God-she is not. We ask for her to pray for us. Don't you ask people to pray for you?
whatzupholly 10 months ago
@whatzupholly Can Mary hear you when you call to her? Scripture says NO!
"For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming" (1 Cor. 15:22-23)
Sorry my friend, your Mary is still asleep and cannot hear or respond to your petitions. But don't worry, there's good news: she will be raised at Jesus' coming. So stop calling her because she can't hear you.
mpenaco 10 months ago
so beautiful
willthacheerleader18 1 year ago
@willthacheerleader18 so beautiful yet so against the command of God against idolatry.
mpenaco 10 months ago
@mpenaco ahahahaha the typical biggoted protestant who is uniformed about church doctrine, dogma, teaching, and understanding's typical answer.
willthacheerleader18 10 months ago
@willthacheerleader18 So typical of deceived catholic who worships idols and calls the dead instead of God. Repent and believe the Gospel. Listen to who Jesus claims His true mother is:
"For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother." (Mat. 12:50).
mpenaco 10 months ago
@mpenaco that verse has nothing to do with it, infact I was studying that verse earlier today. Typical sola scriptura who takes verses out of context. Christ was saying more importantly is his spiritual family than earthly (as well as ours), but Mary IS part of his spiritual family as well. He said those who beleive are, she is the first to beleive, the first Christian.
I was protestant and converted to catholicism after reading the bible, thank you very much.
willthacheerleader18 10 months ago
@willthacheerleader18 Listen to how Jesus rebuked the woman who tried to magnify and glorify Mary in front of the crowd.
"While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed." But He said, "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it." (Lk. 11:27-28)
mpenaco 10 months ago
@mpenaco look closely. that is not a rebuke. He says that ALL who hear the word of God are blessed (saying not only Mary is, but she is as well). Who was FIRST to hear the Word and belive and observe it? Mary. "Hail, Full of Grace! The Lord is With Thee!" "The Holy Spirit will overshadow you!" "Blessed are you among women!" "Blessed are you who beleived!" "All nations shall call me blessed!" "Behold, i am the handmaiden of the Lord!" "Mary kept all these things in her heart" etc.
willthacheerleader18 10 months ago
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