That was an interesting interpretation. The way I read Hebrews 7:12 is that it's speaking about the reason why the covenant change. Hebrews 7 seeks to explain the different approach to God from old to new covenants. The order of priesthood is different, and the inability of the Law of Moses to save anyone, as I understand it.
@KingReef777 What covenant established by what law?The law of Moses is the law of covenant .Melchesidek Priesthood replaced law and Aaron.The comparison is Aaronic Priesthood whom Christ is not.God is not moral law but is perpetual Virtue. God is not equal to moral law but is perpetual in Virtue with no end. The law has and end in heaven.Perpetual Virtue can never be met by law.Christ will satisfy God long after judgment of sin. God's good Virtues for His saints to enjoy,Christ satisfied as well
@KingReef777 The Law of Moses was NEVER meant to save anyone neither were the sacrifices of animals EVER meant to take away sin. Salvation has always been by grace through faith. You would do well to tear out the uninspired page of your bible (the one that says New Testament). There is no separation, only that the New is fully revealed in Christ. The elect has been the elect from Gen. to Rev. the ecclesia (church) has been the ecclesia from Gen to Rev. and God's covenantS are from Gen to Rev.
For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. [v. 21] What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. [v. 22] But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. [v. 23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. [v. 18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. [v. 19] I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. [v. 20]
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [v. 15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [v. 16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? [v. 17]
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. [v. 12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [v. 13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [v. 14]
For he that is dead is freed from sin. [v. 8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: [v. 9] Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. [v. 10] For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. [v. 11]
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. [v. 5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: [v. 6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [v. 7]
Read what God says through Paul in Romans chapter 6. Christians are specifically commanded not to sin but to be servants of righteousness / Jesus Christ:-
Rom 6:1-23 KJV What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [v. 2] God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? [v. 3] Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [v. 4]
Sin is NOT just "forgiven" because we are born-again. We are instructed to SIN NOT, and IF WE SIN we have an advocate with the Father.
We are required to repent (turn away from sin). Without repentance you cannot be forgiven. That's like asking God to automatically excuse our wrong behavior just because we received Christ. This is not a doctrine that is taught in every church.
Some churches say that once you say the sinner's prayer you are forgiven for "future" sins. But in truth the "sinner's prayer" is for past sins. We must still continue to keep our hearts clean before God, repenting of sins we are committing now and in the future.
We must work out our salvation daily with fear and trembling before our God. For if we continue to sin willfully we mock Christ and the Gospel of Christ.
We are suppose to "put on Christ" and become a new creature with a new nature that does NOT desire to sin. If we stumble and fall then we have a promise that if we repent and turn away from all unrighteousness we will be cleansed.
Salvation is a lifestyle not an event. You cannot just do something one time and then go out and live like you want to live. This is not a Biblical concept.
Lastly, please notice what John recorded as the eternal gospel: "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water" (Rev. 14:6,7). Remember, those who are victorious over the beast will sing of the fear of God (Rev. 15:4).
The small and great who fear Him will praise Him (Rev. 19:5). The Lord Almighty said, "I am a great king and my name is to be feared among the nations" (Mal. 1:14). The ones who fear Him and honor His name will be God's and part of His treasured possession (Mal. 3:16-17). The fear of the Lord is pure, enduring forever (Ps. 19:9). You who fear the Lord, praise him (Ps. 22:23).
Noah is in the faith chapter as one who built the ark in holy fear (Heb. 11:7). Moses trembled at the terrifying sight of the burning mountain of God (Heb. 12:18-21). God was the Fear of Isaac (Gen. 31:42). Job feared God and shunned evil (1:8) and God called him blameless and upright.
t. The godly writer of Ps. 119:120 had flesh that trembled in fear of God. Whoever wrote Ps. 33 said, "Let all the earth fear the Lord; let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him (v.8, NKJV). Asaph in Ps. 76 said God alone was to be feared (v.7). Ethan declared God is greatly feared in the council of the holy ones (Ps. 89:7). Shouldn't we fear God as these righteous men did?
To fear God is to hate evil (Pr. 8:13) and avoid evil (Pr. 16:6). There is no fear of God before the eyes of the sinful wicked (Ps. 36:1). Those with an undivided heart fear his name (Ps. 86:11). Rightfully so, since great fear is due him (Ps. 90:11)! God said through the prophet Jeremiah that we should fear Him and tremble in His presence because He made a boundary for the sea and gives autumn and spring rains in season (5:21-24).
We have a direct command from God to fear him in Lev. 19:14; 25:17,36,43. God longed for his people to fear him so that it might go well with them forever (Deut. 5:28-6:2). God inspires us to fear him for our own good so we will not turn away from him (Jer. 32:39-40). Moses said God came to test the people so that the fear of God would be with them to keep them from sinning (Ex. 20:20).
His mercy extends to those who fear Him (Lk. 1:50).
The fear of God adds length to life (Pr. 10:27), is a fountain of life (Pr. 14:27), leads to life (Pr. 19:23), and brings wealth, honor and life when coupled with humility (Pr. 22:4);
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Pr. 9:10; Mic. 6:9) and knowledge (Pr. 1:7), and is the key to the treasure of salvation, wisdom and knowledge (Is. 33:6);
Paul wrote the Romans about the depravity of man in 3:10-18 and included a lack of the fear of God in his description (v.18). Should we be like depraved men? In Rom. 8:15, he tells us we did not receive a spirit that makes us a slave again to fear, but he's referring to suffering for Christ's sake (v.17) or death, as exemplified in Heb. 2:15: "and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death."
Remember that Paul, the grace teacher, wrote to the Corinthians that he knew what it was to fear the Lord (2 Cor. 5:11). He counseled the Ephesian slaves to obey their masters with respect and fear just as they would the Lord (6:5). The Philippians were to work out their salvation with fear and trembling (2:12). Ps. 2:11 also speaks of serving the Lord with fear and rejoicing with trembling.
What about Jesus telling the disciples not to let their hearts be troubled and not to be afraid in Jn. 14:27? If you read the chapter, you will see that Jesus was comforting them about His own death. However, in the next chapter, He warns them to produce fruit so as not to be cut off the true vine by the Father.
Then he speaks of remaining in Him eleven times in the first ten verses of chapter 15! So he was not saying that they need not fear God, but that His children need not fear death! Remember that the servant in Lk. 19:21 and Matt. 25:25 was unjustified for claiming that his fear kept him from serving God and was condemned! Therefore, don't let fear of failure or people stop you from serving and obeying God!
Korah, Dathan and Abiram became insolent and rose up to oppose Moses and Aaron (Num. 16). The next day the earth swallowed them, their wives and children, and all their possessions (v. 31:32). They went down alive into the grave (v. 33). They sinned at the cost of their lives (v. 38). God has the power to easily kill us, if He wants to!
Someone might mention 1 Jn. 4:18, "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." However, can we ignore all the clear Scriptural warnings about fearing God because of this verse? No, we must understand it as it allows for all the evidence dealing with the fear of God. A quick look at verse 17 shows that we can have confidence on the day of judgment if we are like Him in this world.
We will not face the judgment the world faces. A good example of perfect love could be Stephen, the martyr of Acts chapter 7. He had no fear of dying. Nor was he afraid to testify about the Lord to the evil religious leaders of his day. He held no animosity toward those who were stoning him to death, but asked the Lord to forgive them! Wow, what love. Lk. 1:74,75 read, "[God] enables us to serve him without fear in holiness and righteousness before him all our days."
The early church lived in the fear of the Lord (Acts 9:31). Are we like them today? Fear seized those in Ephesus after they heard that the demon possessed man beat the seven sons of Sceva bloody. But this caused the name of the Lord Jesus to be held in high honor (Acts 19:17)!
In Acts 5, we find Ananias and Sapphira lying to the Holy Spirit, and falling down dead as a result. Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events (5:11). This occurred under the new grace covenant, our covenant with God. So if you think you can live any way you please because of grace without incurring severe consequences, remember what happened to them!
God warned the great prophet Isaiah not to follow the ways of the evil people of his day (8:11). God also told him not to fear what they fear or dread it. "The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread" (8:12,13). Can we excuse this as only for Old Testament times?
God immediately goes on to say in the next verse that He will be a sanctuary, but for Israel, "a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall" (8:14).
Peter repeats these truths in 1 Pet. 2:8 and 3:14. So the Holy Spirit, speaking through the Apostle Peter, felt these passages were relevant for the Christians to whom he was writing. Shouldn't they be relevant for us today as well? Read also that he told the believers to live their lives in reverent fear (1 Pet. 1:17) and to fear God (1 Pet. 2:17).
Also, Jesus told the Smyrna church not to be afraid of the imprisonment and persecution they were about to suffer. If they were faithful even to the point of death, they would receive the crown of life (Rev. 2:10). We should conclude from these passages that we are to fear God and His power to condemn us, but not to fear dying for the cause of the Lord. Remember, "precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints" (Ps. 116:15).
The opposite, then, of fear must be arrogance! He also told the Philippians not to be frightened in any way by those who would oppose them. This was a sign to them that they would be destroyed and the Christians saved because they didn't give way to fear in persecution (1:28). Here again, we see we are not to fear physical harm! This is also clear from Heb. 13:6, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?" (He quoted Ps. 118:6,7.)
Similar to Matt. 10:28, Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him" (Lk. 12:4,5). Jesus goes on several verses later to warn the disciples not to disown him so that they would not be disowned before the angels of God.
So, no matter what would happen, even persecution to death, they were commanded to fear God more than anything man could do. Man can only kill your body, but God alone can have your eternal soul thrown into hell! Simultaneously, Jesus told them not to be afraid because they were worth more than many sparrows.
To understand fear from a Biblical perspective, consider that the same word as used in Matt. 10:28 for being afraid of God is also used in a negative sense in that same verse as not to fear those who kill our bodies. In other words, the emotion we aren't to have in a dangerous situation where we may be killed, we are to have towards God! Please remember this definition as you proceed. Also, since there are so many verses which speak of the fear of the Lord, we will cite only a few.
There appears to be a growing trend among evangelicals that Christians are to "enjoy" God while, at the same time, there is a de-emphasis on fearing God. Also, there are many Scripture references that speak of joy in the Lord, but these should not be equated with enjoying God because they are not the same. For example, getting saved gives us great joy (Matt. 13:20,44; Acts 16:34; 1 Pet. 1:8). Jesus is a joy and delight and caused many to rejoice at his birth (Lk. 1:14;
2:10), and He wants joy for us (Jn. 15:11; 17:13). Part of the fruit of the Spirit is joy (Gal. 5:22). Jesus risen from the dead caused joy (Lk. 24:41,52). Paul spoke of the kingdom of God being a matter of joy (Rom. 14:17), and he wanted joy for the Philippians (1:25-26). By the way, how often do you hear anyone preach, as Jesus did, that you should leap for joy at persecution (Lk. 6:23) or as James did, to consider it pure joy when we face trials (1:2)?
The above verses are very encouraging but, again, they do not prove we are to "enjoy" God! On the other hand, there are dozens of verses throughout the Scriptures which speak of the important command to FEAR the Lord.
The snare of legalism with both Calvinsm and Arminianism is that ithey both pervert,make a mockery to God,blasphemy God,and distorts the Gospel and living under choice to yield to the Holy Spirit even after Salvation.
The Blind cannot lead the Blind. Both will be on the Broad Road to Judgement and Eternity in Hell.
The God that loves us, His patience will eventually end, if you love Him back through faith and obedience, His love for you is endless, for those who ignore His word and do it their own way, well I guess they should fear Him.
Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Prov 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
@theonewillcome That is correct they became the Church but there was no Church until Pentecost. Christ sent His disciples to go preach the "gospel of the kingdom" they understood nothing of His death and resurrection,nothing.There is a suspension of kingdom law but it is not for the Church it is morality for the sinner .The law is not for the righteous but for the sinner....
No Church?? what do you think the 12 tribes and the temple represented?????
A Church in scriptures is represented as a Woman:
Jer 2:32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.
God is talking about His bride, Israel, He called her a Harlot:
Hos 4:15 Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend; and come not ye unto Gilgal, neither go ye up to Beth-aven, nor swear, The LORD liveth.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Israel represented by the literal 12 tribes and now through the 12 disciples, is and always has been the Church, the Church is not a building or an institution, it is all those in Christ, who follow the lamb wherever He goes.
From Adam through to Abraham, all those in Christ are His church!!
@polopowers1 "This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him at Mount Sinai, and with our fathers. He received living oracles to give to us." Acts 7:38 That word translated congregation is the same word that is translated church. Its the same!!!
@700bees The Church is never the same as the congregation in the wilderness.First they were not indwelt with the Holy Spirit,second the Jews before Christ are not the bride.The same word does not mean same relationship to God.Under the law the Jew was never free.
@polopowers1 Psalm 19:7 "The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;" KJV renders it as "converting the soul." Are you saying that David was not saved?
By no means does the law save anyone but it is a clause that if one were to keep the whole law they would not be worthy of death. Of course we know that Jesus kept the whole law and indeed is the Word (law) manifested in the flesh. Many Jews knew that salvation was through faith
@theonewillcome Eph 2:10 we are His workmanship means we are to be virtuous before works.Christ forms the mind regenerates unto the virtue of works not unto works as an end for righteousness.Seeing there is a change in Priesthood it is of necessity to have a change of law Heb7:12 Liberty in virtue is far greater than law of morality.Virtue works are from the fruit of Spirit not from law or unto law.Most of what believers use to obey law was for the Jew and kingdom law not yet fulfilled.
We should want to be obedient to Christ, because He saved us:
Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Look at it like this, we are in prison for our lawlessness, if while in prison we decide we want to keep the law, it is of no effect as it doesn't negate the crime. However when Christ pardons us from our crime and releases us from prison, do we continue to break the law only to go back to where He freed us from?
Sin is the breaking of His law!
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, here are they who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
@theonewillcome And who is Jesus speaking too? The Jews pertaining to the kingdom, not the Church.Christ had not yet died or resurrected.He was speaking about false teachers not the Church heretics or apostates.Most of Matthew teaching is for the Jew under kingdom law.Many will say Lord and He will return them to the law to be judged since they loved it so much
Israel is the Church, the literal Jew was cut of because of transgressions (breaking the law), the remnant in Christ, the disciples, went out to form a new Church with literal Jew and gentile alike:
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
[29] But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
He didn't say with Gentiles, as a gentile is a name for an unbeliever!! When you believe you become an Israelite and are graffed into the Vine (Christ), the original branches were cut off:
John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
If the Jews believe, they may be graffed in again:
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
[23] And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
We are all one Israel in Jesus Christ, the true Israel!!
The literal Israelites were given extra laws and the sacrificial system because of their lack of faith, they thought they could work their way to heaven. God gave them the law of Moses to show them that they were incapable of keeping His law by their own deeds, they needed Christ.
Gods law, the 10 Commandments are kept by faith in Jesus Christ, it is not our works, but His, we can only keep the letter, it is by His grace we keep the spirit of the law!
@theonewillcome Israel in the old testament is not the bride of Christ In Ephesians Israel under law was never the Bride.John the Baptist was not part of the Bride the Church.He was, the first that shall be last and the last first, the Church. And the least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.Romans 10 also, Israel is cut off in part.The kingdom that will come under the thousand year reign is not the Church,all pertain to Israel What gospel were the disciples preaching before Christ death.?
Really?? So you think they were saved by the law??
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Jesus is our creator, the WHOLE BIBLE is about HIM, the Lamb that Israel sacrificed was a shadow of HIM, everyone who lived by faith in Christ is part of His Church!!
2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Noah was saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, it was His faith in God and His obedience that assured His salvation.
If we believe in Jesus Christ, we must follow Him, be righteous and keep His Commandments.
Thank you both so very much, life is tough, everything in life is shaky but I know he's on my side. He has not dealt with us after our sins nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
Jesus is impossible, you can never please him at all, you can try but you can't please him be doubled the yoke of Moses and life with Jesus is hell, full of blood and tears but I can't seem to give him up, I love him too much he's the only one I have in this world.
Yours is not the first comment I got from India. I'm so curious about that, why India, not that I'm complaining, because I am not!
Welcome. What's this about a double yoke? Jesus talked about his yoke and invited us to carry it.
See Matthew 11:28-30. If you are carrying around two yokes, maybe you aren't doing it right? I hope you respond, welcome, and let us learn together from God.
Faith without works is dead - James. But also that works without love is dead too - 1 Corinthians. Jesus in the sermon on the mount said not everyone who says to me "lord lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven but he who does the will of my Father....I will say to many depart from me you who practice lawlessness. (1 John 3 says this is sin). Christianity is obedience to Christ from a genuine motive of love. To say a Christian does not need to obey goes against what Christ said.
My understanding is this: Legalism is obedience or works for a selfish motive. This is what the pharisees did. Jesus rebuked them by saying you tithe mint and herb but neglect the weightier matters of the law...these you should have done and not left the others undone. They strain a gnat and swallow a camel. Just as bad is anitomianism: lawlessness/ we can now sin because of grace. Jesus and the disciples condemned this also. "If you love me keep my commandments" - Jesus.
I think people in there zeal against legalism go to the other extreme of lawlessness...or justifying sin via grace. This produces hypocrites...
1 John 2 3We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. 4The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But if anyone obeys his word, God's love[b] is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: 6Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.
Christ calls us on the narrow path of obedience...not out of duty, not out of self preservation but out of a genuine love and care for God and other people. So yeah, just be careful when you oppose legalism...I think if you do you should also warn of the other extreme which is worse in my opinion...open hypocrisy. This blasphemes the name of Christ and makes Christianity the laughing stock of the world. It plants the tares amongst the wheat whose end is only to be burned. Goats amongst sheep
Thanks Aaron, and God bless you. On my profile page there is a link to a site. I hope you come to it and discuss things such as this there. It's a message board and is better equipped to handle in depth discussions.
I hope to see you there. We call it the Village of FoO. lol
Just curious, Why did you make this video? What was the purpose?
Did you hope it would encourage people. Did you think it would edify the body of Christ? Or are you just sick of people who point out sin to others so you hoped this video would make them feel wrong to point out sin anymore? I thought the cartoon guy was cool....I guess I'm a legalist because I hate sin! I hope your not leading people into a comfortable life of sin..
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Romans 3
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
They were for the Jews, in the old testament, our commandment is now from Jesus new Testament "Love God and thy neighbour as thyself" and a few things, which Paul mentioned like not to eat bloody meat.
But, if you do the new commandment, you will automatically fullfill the most of the 10 commandments.
The ten commandments were for the jews back then. After Christ came, if you love God with all your heart, you automatically fulfill the 10 commandments.
Acts 15 seems to me to be part of a trajectory I can trace back as far as Acts 2. It is the increasing institutionalism of the church, which includes increased ritualism and authoritarianism as well as legalism. The Pharisees were the opposite of everything Christ stood for, but in Acts 15 they are inside the church and you sense it is only a matter of time before they are running the show. More and more, I am seeing Acts as a history of spiritual failure and a betrayal of Christ's principles.
I'll try to sum up: Acts 2: the church begins practising ritual (breaking bread). Acts 6: the church begins to institutionalise, a pyramidal authority with the Apostles at the top. Acts 9: Peter has so failed to grasp the vision of the church that the Holy Spirit turns to a totally opposite personality, Paul. Acts 13: Pauls ministry begins; Peter begins to fade from history. Acts 15: Paul takes a stand against the legalists, the beginning of a life-long fight against legalism.
Although the Bible deals with the law vs. grace issue, and Luther majored on it, it seems to me that the emphasis in the Gospels is on law vs. freedom.
We are just not supposed to try to live under the burden of vast lists of laws. "Love God and thy neighbour as thyself" sums up all our responsibilities and at the same time frees us from all the bogus rules invented by religious institutions (including the Acts 15 church).
But no-one seems to be preaching this. Or to have even noticed it.
I have met very few who realize that about the Acts 15 church. They were corrupting the message, and yet Acts 15 is read through like it's talking about John 3, with about the same level of spiritual integrity, when it clearly isn't. What keeps getting me is the way Paul behaved every time James showed up. He folded in my view about every time.
why does faith (belife)matter? if i dont belife that a certain antibiotic WILL NOT WORK and with a bad infection...someone gives it to me anyways...guess what no matter how much i thank it will not work...it more then likly will.
As far as antibiotics go, you might want to ask a doctor. Faith is important because that is what God requires. Faith = trust. Look up the definitions of the two words, they are the same in cases. God makes it a big deal. He wants trust, and will only accept those who trust Him.
I'm already good enough for God. Jesus made me good enough for God by the righteousness that he gave to me by imputation. The "Law" of the old covenant has been disposed of. (Galatians, anyone?)
It is possible to have forgiveness of His Grace, whilst recognising the need to follow Law. Frailty makes perfection impossible, but is our duty as Christians to overcome those base impulses and grow as a person, rather than accept them and sin just due to temptation.
Jesus said, "Go, and sin no more", rather than go and sin all you want, because you're my follower. A person filled with the Holy Spirit will find sin naturally repugnant, but still may fail, that is why He gives forgivness.
If you trust God, He will make you. And He will make you better than you could.
Those who cannot understand this really do not know God that well.
It's as simple as faith because God reacted with the promise of the Holy Spirit. Our focus is supposed to be on Christ, not sin. We are sinners, and if we think about sin enough, we will do it. If we focus on God, He's going to teach us- He promised to do that. But not in the absence of trust.
Interesting. Suppose government focused not on making new crimes, which never exist prior to new laws, and instead returned more freedom, if that would be reflected in society by focusing less on crime and more on respect for individuals and community?
It should, yes.
That said, the Law of God is meant to give a framework for the sinner in deeds, to respect others and treat others rightly.
The Saint need not the Law or Bible, the sinner does.
Liberty is restricted by discipline but it is for the Church controlled by God. Hebrews7:12
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1 ,
That was an interesting interpretation. The way I read Hebrews 7:12 is that it's speaking about the reason why the covenant change. Hebrews 7 seeks to explain the different approach to God from old to new covenants. The order of priesthood is different, and the inability of the Law of Moses to save anyone, as I understand it.
KingReef777 1 year ago
@KingReef777 What covenant established by what law?The law of Moses is the law of covenant .Melchesidek Priesthood replaced law and Aaron.The comparison is Aaronic Priesthood whom Christ is not.God is not moral law but is perpetual Virtue. God is not equal to moral law but is perpetual in Virtue with no end. The law has and end in heaven.Perpetual Virtue can never be met by law.Christ will satisfy God long after judgment of sin. God's good Virtues for His saints to enjoy,Christ satisfied as well
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1 ,
So what's your point? (As in: what are you trying to say?)
KingReef777 1 year ago
@KingReef777 The Law of Moses was NEVER meant to save anyone neither were the sacrifices of animals EVER meant to take away sin. Salvation has always been by grace through faith. You would do well to tear out the uninspired page of your bible (the one that says New Testament). There is no separation, only that the New is fully revealed in Christ. The elect has been the elect from Gen. to Rev. the ecclesia (church) has been the ecclesia from Gen to Rev. and God's covenantS are from Gen to Rev.
700bees 1 year ago
For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. [v. 21] What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. [v. 22] But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. [v. 23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. [v. 18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. [v. 19] I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. [v. 20]
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [v. 15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [v. 16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? [v. 17]
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. [v. 12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [v. 13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [v. 14]
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
For he that is dead is freed from sin. [v. 8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: [v. 9] Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. [v. 10] For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. [v. 11]
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. [v. 5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: [v. 6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [v. 7]
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
What the Bible says
Read what God says through Paul in Romans chapter 6. Christians are specifically commanded not to sin but to be servants of righteousness / Jesus Christ:-
Rom 6:1-23 KJV What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [v. 2] God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? [v. 3] Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [v. 4]
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Sin is NOT just "forgiven" because we are born-again. We are instructed to SIN NOT, and IF WE SIN we have an advocate with the Father.
We are required to repent (turn away from sin). Without repentance you cannot be forgiven. That's like asking God to automatically excuse our wrong behavior just because we received Christ. This is not a doctrine that is taught in every church.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Some churches say that once you say the sinner's prayer you are forgiven for "future" sins. But in truth the "sinner's prayer" is for past sins. We must still continue to keep our hearts clean before God, repenting of sins we are committing now and in the future.
We must work out our salvation daily with fear and trembling before our God. For if we continue to sin willfully we mock Christ and the Gospel of Christ.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
We are suppose to "put on Christ" and become a new creature with a new nature that does NOT desire to sin. If we stumble and fall then we have a promise that if we repent and turn away from all unrighteousness we will be cleansed.
Salvation is a lifestyle not an event. You cannot just do something one time and then go out and live like you want to live. This is not a Biblical concept.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
"Fear God and give him glory"
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Lastly, please notice what John recorded as the eternal gospel: "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water" (Rev. 14:6,7). Remember, those who are victorious over the beast will sing of the fear of God (Rev. 15:4).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
The small and great who fear Him will praise Him (Rev. 19:5). The Lord Almighty said, "I am a great king and my name is to be feared among the nations" (Mal. 1:14). The ones who fear Him and honor His name will be God's and part of His treasured possession (Mal. 3:16-17). The fear of the Lord is pure, enduring forever (Ps. 19:9). You who fear the Lord, praise him (Ps. 22:23).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Noah is in the faith chapter as one who built the ark in holy fear (Heb. 11:7). Moses trembled at the terrifying sight of the burning mountain of God (Heb. 12:18-21). God was the Fear of Isaac (Gen. 31:42). Job feared God and shunned evil (1:8) and God called him blameless and upright.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
t. The godly writer of Ps. 119:120 had flesh that trembled in fear of God. Whoever wrote Ps. 33 said, "Let all the earth fear the Lord; let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him (v.8, NKJV). Asaph in Ps. 76 said God alone was to be feared (v.7). Ethan declared God is greatly feared in the council of the holy ones (Ps. 89:7). Shouldn't we fear God as these righteous men did?
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Nowhere in Scripture are these promises extended to those who enjoy God!
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
To fear God is to hate evil (Pr. 8:13) and avoid evil (Pr. 16:6). There is no fear of God before the eyes of the sinful wicked (Ps. 36:1). Those with an undivided heart fear his name (Ps. 86:11). Rightfully so, since great fear is due him (Ps. 90:11)! God said through the prophet Jeremiah that we should fear Him and tremble in His presence because He made a boundary for the sea and gives autumn and spring rains in season (5:21-24).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
We have a direct command from God to fear him in Lev. 19:14; 25:17,36,43. God longed for his people to fear him so that it might go well with them forever (Deut. 5:28-6:2). God inspires us to fear him for our own good so we will not turn away from him (Jer. 32:39-40). Moses said God came to test the people so that the fear of God would be with them to keep them from sinning (Ex. 20:20).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Take a moment to reflect on these Old Testament passages about the desirable things that come to those who fear God:
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
The Lord confides in those who fear him (Ps. 25:14);
God's great goodness is stored up for those who fear Him (Ps. 31:19);
His eyes are on those who fear him (Ps. 33:18);
The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear him, and He delivers them (Ps. 34:7);
His saints are to fear Him—those who fear Him lack nothing (Ps. 34:9);
Salvation is near those who fear God (Ps. 85:9);
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
God has love for those who fear him as high as the heavens are above the earth (Ps. 103:11);
His love is with those who fear him (Ps. 103:17);
The Lord has compassion on those who fear him (Ps. 103:13);
God provides food for those who fear him (Ps. 111:5);
He will bless those who fear him (Ps. 115:13);
God fulfills the desires of those who fear him; He hears their cry and saves them (Ps. 145:19);
He delights in those who fear him (Ps. 147:11);
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
His mercy extends to those who fear Him (Lk. 1:50).
The fear of God adds length to life (Pr. 10:27), is a fountain of life (Pr. 14:27), leads to life (Pr. 19:23), and brings wealth, honor and life when coupled with humility (Pr. 22:4);
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Pr. 9:10; Mic. 6:9) and knowledge (Pr. 1:7), and is the key to the treasure of salvation, wisdom and knowledge (Is. 33:6);
Etc., etc., etc.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Paul wrote the Romans about the depravity of man in 3:10-18 and included a lack of the fear of God in his description (v.18). Should we be like depraved men? In Rom. 8:15, he tells us we did not receive a spirit that makes us a slave again to fear, but he's referring to suffering for Christ's sake (v.17) or death, as exemplified in Heb. 2:15: "and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death."
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Remember that Paul, the grace teacher, wrote to the Corinthians that he knew what it was to fear the Lord (2 Cor. 5:11). He counseled the Ephesian slaves to obey their masters with respect and fear just as they would the Lord (6:5). The Philippians were to work out their salvation with fear and trembling (2:12). Ps. 2:11 also speaks of serving the Lord with fear and rejoicing with trembling.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
What about Jesus telling the disciples not to let their hearts be troubled and not to be afraid in Jn. 14:27? If you read the chapter, you will see that Jesus was comforting them about His own death. However, in the next chapter, He warns them to produce fruit so as not to be cut off the true vine by the Father.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Then he speaks of remaining in Him eleven times in the first ten verses of chapter 15! So he was not saying that they need not fear God, but that His children need not fear death! Remember that the servant in Lk. 19:21 and Matt. 25:25 was unjustified for claiming that his fear kept him from serving God and was condemned! Therefore, don't let fear of failure or people stop you from serving and obeying God!
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Korah, Dathan and Abiram became insolent and rose up to oppose Moses and Aaron (Num. 16). The next day the earth swallowed them, their wives and children, and all their possessions (v. 31:32). They went down alive into the grave (v. 33). They sinned at the cost of their lives (v. 38). God has the power to easily kill us, if He wants to!
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Someone might mention 1 Jn. 4:18, "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." However, can we ignore all the clear Scriptural warnings about fearing God because of this verse? No, we must understand it as it allows for all the evidence dealing with the fear of God. A quick look at verse 17 shows that we can have confidence on the day of judgment if we are like Him in this world.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
We will not face the judgment the world faces. A good example of perfect love could be Stephen, the martyr of Acts chapter 7. He had no fear of dying. Nor was he afraid to testify about the Lord to the evil religious leaders of his day. He held no animosity toward those who were stoning him to death, but asked the Lord to forgive them! Wow, what love. Lk. 1:74,75 read, "[God] enables us to serve him without fear in holiness and righteousness before him all our days."
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
The early church lived in the fear of the Lord (Acts 9:31). Are we like them today? Fear seized those in Ephesus after they heard that the demon possessed man beat the seven sons of Sceva bloody. But this caused the name of the Lord Jesus to be held in high honor (Acts 19:17)!
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
In Acts 5, we find Ananias and Sapphira lying to the Holy Spirit, and falling down dead as a result. Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events (5:11). This occurred under the new grace covenant, our covenant with God. So if you think you can live any way you please because of grace without incurring severe consequences, remember what happened to them!
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
God warned the great prophet Isaiah not to follow the ways of the evil people of his day (8:11). God also told him not to fear what they fear or dread it. "The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread" (8:12,13). Can we excuse this as only for Old Testament times?
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
God immediately goes on to say in the next verse that He will be a sanctuary, but for Israel, "a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall" (8:14).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Peter repeats these truths in 1 Pet. 2:8 and 3:14. So the Holy Spirit, speaking through the Apostle Peter, felt these passages were relevant for the Christians to whom he was writing. Shouldn't they be relevant for us today as well? Read also that he told the believers to live their lives in reverent fear (1 Pet. 1:17) and to fear God (1 Pet. 2:17).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Also, Jesus told the Smyrna church not to be afraid of the imprisonment and persecution they were about to suffer. If they were faithful even to the point of death, they would receive the crown of life (Rev. 2:10). We should conclude from these passages that we are to fear God and His power to condemn us, but not to fear dying for the cause of the Lord. Remember, "precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints" (Ps. 116:15).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Notice how Paul told the Romans not to be arrogant, but to be afraid because God might not spare them from being cut out of the root (11:17-23).
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
The opposite, then, of fear must be arrogance! He also told the Philippians not to be frightened in any way by those who would oppose them. This was a sign to them that they would be destroyed and the Christians saved because they didn't give way to fear in persecution (1:28). Here again, we see we are not to fear physical harm! This is also clear from Heb. 13:6, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?" (He quoted Ps. 118:6,7.)
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Jesus said, "Yes, I tell you, fear him"
Similar to Matt. 10:28, Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him" (Lk. 12:4,5). Jesus goes on several verses later to warn the disciples not to disown him so that they would not be disowned before the angels of God.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
So, no matter what would happen, even persecution to death, they were commanded to fear God more than anything man could do. Man can only kill your body, but God alone can have your eternal soul thrown into hell! Simultaneously, Jesus told them not to be afraid because they were worth more than many sparrows.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
To understand fear from a Biblical perspective, consider that the same word as used in Matt. 10:28 for being afraid of God is also used in a negative sense in that same verse as not to fear those who kill our bodies. In other words, the emotion we aren't to have in a dangerous situation where we may be killed, we are to have towards God! Please remember this definition as you proceed. Also, since there are so many verses which speak of the fear of the Lord, we will cite only a few.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Enjoy God, or Fear Him?
read the following
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
There appears to be a growing trend among evangelicals that Christians are to "enjoy" God while, at the same time, there is a de-emphasis on fearing God. Also, there are many Scripture references that speak of joy in the Lord, but these should not be equated with enjoying God because they are not the same. For example, getting saved gives us great joy (Matt. 13:20,44; Acts 16:34; 1 Pet. 1:8). Jesus is a joy and delight and caused many to rejoice at his birth (Lk. 1:14;
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
2:10), and He wants joy for us (Jn. 15:11; 17:13). Part of the fruit of the Spirit is joy (Gal. 5:22). Jesus risen from the dead caused joy (Lk. 24:41,52). Paul spoke of the kingdom of God being a matter of joy (Rom. 14:17), and he wanted joy for the Philippians (1:25-26). By the way, how often do you hear anyone preach, as Jesus did, that you should leap for joy at persecution (Lk. 6:23) or as James did, to consider it pure joy when we face trials (1:2)?
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
The above verses are very encouraging but, again, they do not prove we are to "enjoy" God! On the other hand, there are dozens of verses throughout the Scriptures which speak of the important command to FEAR the Lord.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Yes,obedience to the Holy Spirit.
The snare of legalism with both Calvinsm and Arminianism is that ithey both pervert,make a mockery to God,blasphemy God,and distorts the Gospel and living under choice to yield to the Holy Spirit even after Salvation.
The Blind cannot lead the Blind. Both will be on the Broad Road to Judgement and Eternity in Hell.
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
It's not legalism to tell someone? they are a sinner.
It's not wrong to judge someone unless it is hypocritical judgment.
Camel76 2 years ago
Ok my friend, I have 2 questions for you:
1. after being saved by Gods grace through the blood of Jesus Christ are we able to keep on sinning?
2. Please explain this verse:
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
I look forward to your reply.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
@theonewillcome
context without a pretext is not context at all.
You cannot have Ephesians 2:8-9 leaving out Ephesians 2:10
Enjoy God, or Fear Him?
NiagaraFalls4424 2 years ago
Please don't contradict scriptures with your own understanding:
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto GOOD WORKS, which God hath before ordained that we should WALK IN THEM.
Did Christ keep the law? Yes!! After we accept His free gift of salvation, there are terms and conditions.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
The God that loves us, His patience will eventually end, if you love Him back through faith and obedience, His love for you is endless, for those who ignore His word and do it their own way, well I guess they should fear Him.
Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Prov 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
@theonewillcome That is correct they became the Church but there was no Church until Pentecost. Christ sent His disciples to go preach the "gospel of the kingdom" they understood nothing of His death and resurrection,nothing.There is a suspension of kingdom law but it is not for the Church it is morality for the sinner .The law is not for the righteous but for the sinner....
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1
No Church?? what do you think the 12 tribes and the temple represented?????
A Church in scriptures is represented as a Woman:
Jer 2:32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.
God is talking about His bride, Israel, He called her a Harlot:
Hos 4:15 Though thou, Israel, play the harlot, yet let not Judah offend; and come not ye unto Gilgal, neither go ye up to Beth-aven, nor swear, The LORD liveth.
TBC
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Israel represented by the literal 12 tribes and now through the 12 disciples, is and always has been the Church, the Church is not a building or an institution, it is all those in Christ, who follow the lamb wherever He goes.
From Adam through to Abraham, all those in Christ are His church!!
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@polopowers1 "This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him at Mount Sinai, and with our fathers. He received living oracles to give to us." Acts 7:38 That word translated congregation is the same word that is translated church. Its the same!!!
700bees 1 year ago
@700bees The Church is never the same as the congregation in the wilderness.First they were not indwelt with the Holy Spirit,second the Jews before Christ are not the bride.The same word does not mean same relationship to God.Under the law the Jew was never free.
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1 Psalm 19:7 "The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;" KJV renders it as "converting the soul." Are you saying that David was not saved?
By no means does the law save anyone but it is a clause that if one were to keep the whole law they would not be worthy of death. Of course we know that Jesus kept the whole law and indeed is the Word (law) manifested in the flesh. Many Jews knew that salvation was through faith
700bees 1 year ago
@700bees The law never saved anyone even those who kept it Romans 3:25 Everyone is saved by Christ though the Jew ( David) in retrospect
polopowers1 1 year ago
@theonewillcome Eph 2:10 we are His workmanship means we are to be virtuous before works.Christ forms the mind regenerates unto the virtue of works not unto works as an end for righteousness.Seeing there is a change in Priesthood it is of necessity to have a change of law Heb7:12 Liberty in virtue is far greater than law of morality.Virtue works are from the fruit of Spirit not from law or unto law.Most of what believers use to obey law was for the Jew and kingdom law not yet fulfilled.
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1
We should want to be obedient to Christ, because He saved us:
Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
Look at it like this, we are in prison for our lawlessness, if while in prison we decide we want to keep the law, it is of no effect as it doesn't negate the crime. However when Christ pardons us from our crime and releases us from prison, do we continue to break the law only to go back to where He freed us from?
Sin is the breaking of His law!
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, here are they who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Think about it!
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome And who is Jesus speaking too? The Jews pertaining to the kingdom, not the Church.Christ had not yet died or resurrected.He was speaking about false teachers not the Church heretics or apostates.Most of Matthew teaching is for the Jew under kingdom law.Many will say Lord and He will return them to the law to be judged since they loved it so much
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1
Israel is the Church, the literal Jew was cut of because of transgressions (breaking the law), the remnant in Christ, the disciples, went out to form a new Church with literal Jew and gentile alike:
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
[29] But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
TBC
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
Here in Jeremiah, the New Covenant is for Israel:
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
He didn't say with Gentiles, as a gentile is a name for an unbeliever!! When you believe you become an Israelite and are graffed into the Vine (Christ), the original branches were cut off:
John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
TBC
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
That is why:
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
[27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Those who believed in Christ to come, were saved through faith in the Lamb.
TBC
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
If the Jews believe, they may be graffed in again:
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
[23] And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
We are all one Israel in Jesus Christ, the true Israel!!
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
The literal Israelites were given extra laws and the sacrificial system because of their lack of faith, they thought they could work their way to heaven. God gave them the law of Moses to show them that they were incapable of keeping His law by their own deeds, they needed Christ.
Gods law, the 10 Commandments are kept by faith in Jesus Christ, it is not our works, but His, we can only keep the letter, it is by His grace we keep the spirit of the law!
TBC
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
This why Christ made the following statement:
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
He came to give us a better way, the better way was through HIM!!
So because He has saved you, honour Him and keep His law.
God bless!
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome Israel in the old testament is not the bride of Christ In Ephesians Israel under law was never the Bride.John the Baptist was not part of the Bride the Church.He was, the first that shall be last and the last first, the Church. And the least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.Romans 10 also, Israel is cut off in part.The kingdom that will come under the thousand year reign is not the Church,all pertain to Israel What gospel were the disciples preaching before Christ death.?
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1
Really?? So you think they were saved by the law??
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Jesus is our creator, the WHOLE BIBLE is about HIM, the Lamb that Israel sacrificed was a shadow of HIM, everyone who lived by faith in Christ is part of His Church!!
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome
2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Noah was saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, it was His faith in God and His obedience that assured His salvation.
If we believe in Jesus Christ, we must follow Him, be righteous and keep His Commandments.
theonewillcome 1 year ago
@theonewillcome Noah was spared because he was perfect in his generations and he trusted God.
What are Jesus' commandments?
jacobvictory 1 year ago
@polopowers1 read what I replied to KingReef777
700bees 1 year ago
Thank you both so very much, life is tough, everything in life is shaky but I know he's on my side. He has not dealt with us after our sins nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
rowanrox 2 years ago
Wise words. Thanks for watching.
KingReef777 2 years ago
Jesus is impossible, you can never please him at all, you can try but you can't please him be doubled the yoke of Moses and life with Jesus is hell, full of blood and tears but I can't seem to give him up, I love him too much he's the only one I have in this world.
rowanrox 2 years ago
Yours is not the first comment I got from India. I'm so curious about that, why India, not that I'm complaining, because I am not!
Welcome. What's this about a double yoke? Jesus talked about his yoke and invited us to carry it.
See Matthew 11:28-30. If you are carrying around two yokes, maybe you aren't doing it right? I hope you respond, welcome, and let us learn together from God.
KingReef777 2 years ago
Faith without works is dead - James. But also that works without love is dead too - 1 Corinthians. Jesus in the sermon on the mount said not everyone who says to me "lord lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven but he who does the will of my Father....I will say to many depart from me you who practice lawlessness. (1 John 3 says this is sin). Christianity is obedience to Christ from a genuine motive of love. To say a Christian does not need to obey goes against what Christ said.
Aaron637 2 years ago
My understanding is this: Legalism is obedience or works for a selfish motive. This is what the pharisees did. Jesus rebuked them by saying you tithe mint and herb but neglect the weightier matters of the law...these you should have done and not left the others undone. They strain a gnat and swallow a camel. Just as bad is anitomianism: lawlessness/ we can now sin because of grace. Jesus and the disciples condemned this also. "If you love me keep my commandments" - Jesus.
Aaron637 2 years ago
I think people in there zeal against legalism go to the other extreme of lawlessness...or justifying sin via grace. This produces hypocrites...
1 John 2 3We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. 4The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But if anyone obeys his word, God's love[b] is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: 6Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.
Aaron637 2 years ago
Christ calls us on the narrow path of obedience...not out of duty, not out of self preservation but out of a genuine love and care for God and other people. So yeah, just be careful when you oppose legalism...I think if you do you should also warn of the other extreme which is worse in my opinion...open hypocrisy. This blasphemes the name of Christ and makes Christianity the laughing stock of the world. It plants the tares amongst the wheat whose end is only to be burned. Goats amongst sheep
Aaron637 2 years ago
By the way...im not sayng you have done this...just showing the opposite extreme.
Aaron637 2 years ago
Thanks Aaron, and God bless you. On my profile page there is a link to a site. I hope you come to it and discuss things such as this there. It's a message board and is better equipped to handle in depth discussions.
I hope to see you there. We call it the Village of FoO. lol
KingReef777 2 years ago
I am a recovering legalist. . . I am so grateful for this video. Thanks!
puritymom 2 years ago
Thank you so much for watching, your comment, and subscribing. You are such a blessing to me. God bless you.
KingReef777 2 years ago
Just curious, Why did you make this video? What was the purpose?
Did you hope it would encourage people. Did you think it would edify the body of Christ? Or are you just sick of people who point out sin to others so you hoped this video would make them feel wrong to point out sin anymore? I thought the cartoon guy was cool....I guess I'm a legalist because I hate sin! I hope your not leading people into a comfortable life of sin..
redbonesmkia 2 years ago
The matters I am referring to are doctrinal issues concerning legalism. Many people do not even know they are legalists.
Thanks for watching.
KingReef777 2 years ago
goo hell all gey
foamearo 3 years ago
God bless you and all your people, in Jesus' name.
KingReef777 3 years ago
I totally agree with Flanger7777
LDeleon1 3 years ago
So, then what are the ten commandments for?
alishepwil 3 years ago
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Galatians 3
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Romans 3
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
KingReef777 3 years ago
They were for the Jews, in the old testament, our commandment is now from Jesus new Testament "Love God and thy neighbour as thyself" and a few things, which Paul mentioned like not to eat bloody meat.
But, if you do the new commandment, you will automatically fullfill the most of the 10 commandments.
flanger7777 3 years ago
The ten commandments were for the jews back then. After Christ came, if you love God with all your heart, you automatically fulfill the 10 commandments.
LDeleon1 3 years ago
I'm glad someone is paying attention to God's word! : )
KingReef777 3 years ago
Acts 15 seems to me to be part of a trajectory I can trace back as far as Acts 2. It is the increasing institutionalism of the church, which includes increased ritualism and authoritarianism as well as legalism. The Pharisees were the opposite of everything Christ stood for, but in Acts 15 they are inside the church and you sense it is only a matter of time before they are running the show. More and more, I am seeing Acts as a history of spiritual failure and a betrayal of Christ's principles.
DiTyOm 3 years ago
Can you show me what you mean by Acts 2?
KingReef777 3 years ago
I'll try to sum up: Acts 2: the church begins practising ritual (breaking bread). Acts 6: the church begins to institutionalise, a pyramidal authority with the Apostles at the top. Acts 9: Peter has so failed to grasp the vision of the church that the Holy Spirit turns to a totally opposite personality, Paul. Acts 13: Pauls ministry begins; Peter begins to fade from history. Acts 15: Paul takes a stand against the legalists, the beginning of a life-long fight against legalism.
DiTyOm 3 years ago
Although the Bible deals with the law vs. grace issue, and Luther majored on it, it seems to me that the emphasis in the Gospels is on law vs. freedom.
We are just not supposed to try to live under the burden of vast lists of laws. "Love God and thy neighbour as thyself" sums up all our responsibilities and at the same time frees us from all the bogus rules invented by religious institutions (including the Acts 15 church).
But no-one seems to be preaching this. Or to have even noticed it.
DiTyOm 3 years ago
I have met very few who realize that about the Acts 15 church. They were corrupting the message, and yet Acts 15 is read through like it's talking about John 3, with about the same level of spiritual integrity, when it clearly isn't. What keeps getting me is the way Paul behaved every time James showed up. He folded in my view about every time.
KingReef777 3 years ago
why does faith (belife)matter? if i dont belife that a certain antibiotic WILL NOT WORK and with a bad infection...someone gives it to me anyways...guess what no matter how much i thank it will not work...it more then likly will.
vacationboyvideos 3 years ago
As far as antibiotics go, you might want to ask a doctor. Faith is important because that is what God requires. Faith = trust. Look up the definitions of the two words, they are the same in cases. God makes it a big deal. He wants trust, and will only accept those who trust Him.
KingReef777 3 years ago
I'm already good enough for God. Jesus made me good enough for God by the righteousness that he gave to me by imputation. The "Law" of the old covenant has been disposed of. (Galatians, anyone?)
Eldanen 3 years ago
It will be so good to feel what it is like to not have this sin as a part of me. And good for you!
KingReef777 3 years ago
It is possible to have forgiveness of His Grace, whilst recognising the need to follow Law. Frailty makes perfection impossible, but is our duty as Christians to overcome those base impulses and grow as a person, rather than accept them and sin just due to temptation.
Jesus said, "Go, and sin no more", rather than go and sin all you want, because you're my follower. A person filled with the Holy Spirit will find sin naturally repugnant, but still may fail, that is why He gives forgivness.
abcmole 3 years ago
If you trust God, He will make you. And He will make you better than you could.
Those who cannot understand this really do not know God that well.
It's as simple as faith because God reacted with the promise of the Holy Spirit. Our focus is supposed to be on Christ, not sin. We are sinners, and if we think about sin enough, we will do it. If we focus on God, He's going to teach us- He promised to do that. But not in the absence of trust.
Faith = Trust.
Holy = Dedication.
Dedicate trust in God.
KingReef777 3 years ago
Interesting. Suppose government focused not on making new crimes, which never exist prior to new laws, and instead returned more freedom, if that would be reflected in society by focusing less on crime and more on respect for individuals and community?
It should, yes.
That said, the Law of God is meant to give a framework for the sinner in deeds, to respect others and treat others rightly.
The Saint need not the Law or Bible, the sinner does.
Dedicate trust in God. Yes, may we all.
abcmole 3 years ago
I suppose that I have a different understanding of what this verse means than what you think it means:
Romans 3
20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
The Law is there to chase us to Christ! Why is this so difficult to understand? We are all guilty before the Law!
KingReef777 3 years ago