Universal Audio original 610 Console

[InstantReverbPro]

You guys should make a reproduction of something like this!! maybe 16 channels? I'd love to do some stuff on something like this.

[Chiefbobaloo]

We old guys always said, trash in- trash out. A great console like this separates the men from the boys. If you dont sound good, - you wont sound good.

[lorettasson]

Frank DeMedio !!,,,NOT-Bill Putnam Sr!!

[surferdude50]

Very sweet... ]:o)

[gsagula2]

First, old stuff doesn't sound fat and usually has noise...

Second, Pro Tools and Avid preamps + converters do the job. SPECIALLY FOR JAZZ!

Third, mixing everything in the box, but now using Fruitloops would lead to state of art!

Why use this old, green and mouldy peace of museum?

Pls, don't answer! I'll be mad...

[deadbirdsings]

@gsagula2 - You're an idiot.

[gsagula2]

@deadbirdsings and you fag around!

[JamieTateJamieTate]

Ironically, the mix could've used more compression.

[JamieTateJamieTate]

Nice choice. Smooth Jazz belongs in the toilet.

[JamieTateJamieTate]

Got Reverb? Jesus!!



[morninggloryseed]

Nice to see the pros using the same techniques as unknown, and yet unrecognzed pros like me. :)

Specifically I refer to using a mixing board with computer.) I do my premixing in the DAW (cubase for me) and then send that premix through 4 stereo busses to the mixer, and the stereo signal is sent back to the DAW to be recorded.

Something about hand mixing on an actual physical mixing board that is very satisfying compared to working strictly within a DAW.

[zirokiller00]

classic



[TheProgmagog]

The console certainly is wonderful, but dont read too, too much into that. There are many reasons this recording sounds so good. Its about the performance, the instruments, the amps (and settings), the room, the mics and placement. Of all these things, the mixer influences the sounds the very least. Especially one like this with almost no eq on board short of a few switches in-or out. It imparts a subtle quality indeed, but subtle is the word..

[deadbirdsings]

@TheProgmagog - The Spartan features of the board, far from being a drawback, could well be a factor in why the recording sounds good, since it forces the engineers to keep it simple and get the sound right at the source rather than trying to fix things in the mix.

[TheProgmagog]

@deadbirdsings Excellent point.

[TheProgmagog]

Even on my lousy PC speakers this sounds incredible.

[poshi12]

Big dials!I want it! lol

[ClausLunoe]

I was in haven for a moment,,,, So i will press play and go back again.

WOWWW

[thepilgrimsdream]

This is the best i ever heard something at 360! I want this console sooooo bad

[naturecollision]

i love this sound

[markandtyler]

@douken...... No

[calebrosazza]

you guys know this video isnt actually about jazz right?

if you ever meet each other, you can duke it out then. but for now you can just walk away because this is an online argument in the youtube comments.

besides, im sure i have much better taste than both of you anyway. what do you think of that?

[col50]

AMAZING TONE

[lyrpat]

Amassingggg Video, the sound is real and so great. This is a real stuff and not from the digital era where we live now.

[TheProgmagog]

@lyrpat Actually they were recording into Pro Tools.

[markandtyler]

I won't lie. This is the greatest video on YouTube.

[Douken]

@markandtyler nope, the greatest video on youtube must be this one watch?v=orjt7BhvfMw

[barzoman2]

Mixer Looks Old and Ugly but Sounds Great Crystal Sparkling sounding UA is a great Products

[The8ighthBit]

I like the music. I'm no pro musician but I appreciate the art and genres. To me music is bad when it has no substance or soul. I'd love to jam with these guys.

[fishybishbash]

Crumbs I've written about 5 posts about why I think the music on this clip is not very good. You think its ok so whatever I say you're going to disagree - and because you think its ok and I dont, you accuse me of having terrible taste and being shallow. Come on then bring it on. What do you consider the best Jazz recording of all time? Or top 3 if you like?

[Zebonka]

And just think - these guys are at WORK. Some people have all the luck, pahaha!

[alexgava]

Un buen samaritane que me saque de la duda, le hecho de poner un speaker en el baño y un microfono era para hacer el efecto de reverb ? eso fue lo que entendi, estoy bien ? y me podrian explicar como funciona ? de antemano gracias : )

[fishybishbash]

great console bad music

[zkranz0]

@fishybishbash What terrible taste you must have.

[fishybishbash]

@zkranz0 lol - and you

[zkranz0]

@fishybishbash can I just ask what kind of music YOU would want record if you could record a song on that console?

[fishybishbash]

@zkranz0 When I was about 25 I realised that music was as much about the idea as the execution. Thats why Tom Waits is good despite the fact he sings like a wino. I might want to record someone singing a decent song, maybe someone playing something from another country; something with a bit of charm - unlike the jazz rock wannabes on show here.

[zkranz0]

@fishybishbash So does this represent your view of jazz as a whole?

[fishybishbash]

@zkranz0 Well not necessarily but lets face it if Miles were alive today he wouldn't be doing this would he. He'd be most likely making beats and working with hip hop artists. That was the thing with Miles, he always knew where the good stuff was at. If you like this sort of thing then its up to you, obviously, but just because I've correctly identified that its half arsed, badly played and out of date doesn't mean I have 'terrible taste'. Quite the reverse, I would contend.

[zkranz0]

@fishybishbash I've got a couple of things to say to that. By your comment to Miles and his draw to the "good stuff" and also your mentioning of jazz rock wannabes I feel like you're contradicting yourself. If Miles, being a well remembered jazz titan, could have a vision of innovating and collaborating different music that it applied to an audience as big as the popular hip-hop genre, then why can't these musicians attempt to collaborate what music they know best?

[fishybishbash]

@zkranz0 They can. Doesn't make it any good though.

[zkranz0]

@fishybishbash Also, I will admit, these musicians aren't up to the caliber of Miles at even his worst, but can't you respect the IDEA of it's creation like you said? It might not be well executed but that doesn't make the concept bad. It's not like everyone is Miles Davis when it comes to jazz, you know.

[fishybishbash]

@zkranz0 I respect the ideas that Miles had. Or someone like Zappa for example. But not particularly someone like Larry Carlton or Steve Vai. Would you say that Kenny G makes good music? After all he's an extremely proficient player. There's good jazz and bad jazz, just like anything else; and this is bad.

[zkranz0]

@fishybishbash I can't see this being anywhere near Kenny G's "interpretation" of jazz. And I'd say there are more types of jazz rather than just good and bad. If you can only respect one type of jazz then clearly you're not sticking to your theory of how music should be judged. Jazz can be heard in several forms. It's always evolving with creativity. Change, especially with jazz, is inevitable and doesn't make it a bad thing just because it doesn't sound like Miles.

[fishybishbash]

@zkranz0 lol its not bad because it doesn't sound like Miles; its bad because its bad! Jeez I'm starting to feel terrible for these guys now slating them off because of an off the cuff remark I made which you took umbridge to. As for your point that there are more types of jazz than good and bad - what like bebop, dixie, free, swing etc etc??? Good isn't a TYPE of jazz is it, c'mon you're having me on surely

[zkranz0]

@fishybishbash "There's good jazz and bad jazz" ... I still don't quite understand what's wrong with this music. I feel any opinion deserves some sort of explanation or otherwise I see it as just shallow belief.

[dkillian12]

OMG!!!! Universal audio just make a reissue of the green board. that would be sooo sweet. i have the 2-610 and the la-610 and plan to get much more from UA. they are just great. but i would love to get a piece of gear built by the man himself.

[readerwriter]

That just sounds so good. Good pre's, good mics, good musos, aint that all you need.

[enacra101]

it sounds amazing guys

[johanivanovic]

omg i want i want i want i want

[BBTempo1]

Actually, a pre-delay is the delay put BEFORE the reverb unit/chamber/plate, etc. that delays the time from when a signal "plays", until the time it reaches the reverb devise, resulting in apparently larger reverb "space".

The speaker in this "echo chamber" video should really face the wall and not the mic, so there is less of a "direct" signal coming into the mic, and a denser reverb.

[tekis0]

@BBTempo1 Hey Bob, what in the heck do you know??!! Ya put the speaker wherever it sounds good, man! You like SSL's and DS201's...

[recproguy1]

@tekis0

John: Where did I say it would not sound as good with the speaker facing the mic. I simply said there would be less direct signal, obviously, if the mic was not directly on the axis of the mic. I like any equiptment I have in front of me and need to use. I don't want to be a "Vintage Snob". Happy Merry.

[gwamba]

U GUYS MADE MY DAY!..JUST WHEN I THOUGHT THERE WAS NOTHING WORTH WATCHING ON U TUBE ANYMORE...THIS! DROOOOOOOL !!! I WONDER IF TOM DOWD EVER TOUCHED THIS...

[timwarneka]

Very cool ... want the CD of this take. :-)

Anybody know what a pre-delay does?

[whoisthemetro]

@timwarneka Pre-delay determines how fast or slow the attack of the reverb.

[atomixrecords]

@timwarneka

CD? I want vinyl @45 rpm with their take of Watermelon Man on the flip!

[dhefprod]

i want the same :)

[cranie4]

Amazing sound and amazing gear. UA stuff is really top notch.

[umajunkcollector]

I think it would be funny if there was a bad take, and somebody flushed the crapper!

[OMERTA011]

the problem is.. now days music runs on "the dryer the better"

great video!

[dumbnameiknow]

@OMERTA011 i agree.  bigger is better!

[RAYGproductions]

Love this..