Have I understood this correctly? That the oldest witness account about Jesus came from Saint Paul, who made these accounts 50 YEARS after Jesus' supposed death? And these accounts described him as Christ, the son of God?
If this is true ... How the hell can any historian seriously believe in Jesus? This is embarrassing LOL
It is true, and the clergy has been unresponsive to the facts. But, no less unresponsive than they have to the over 11,000 charges of child molestation against them since the 50's, or to the arrest of the vatican's pedophilia adviser, riccardo seppia, who was arrested for child molestation last year. Thanks for watching too!
Jesus is a bastard son, because his mother fucked someone else than her husband and she didn't dare to tell him. So she made up this story of this "god".
Yeah, makes lots of sense you hateful Kook. Presumably YOU call yourself an "all-loving christian" like YOUR mythical and Man-Made "jesus," who never existed, not even in the fable where he tells his pals to steal a couple donkeys, and blames it on the Man-Made "god" clown: matthew 21:2-3
Idiots, you're entertaining to the bright and sane, and a danger to Our planet, that has no connection whatsoever to the offensive drivel of religion, see hosea 13:16, Idiot.
That could be correct, but wherever the puzzle pieces form into one solid reality, they don't involve any supernatural beings, nor this made-up "god" fellow. Thanks for watching and commenting!
And very few Atheists actually stress that fact: The ridiculous Christ guy did not exist. And a s a myth leaves a perfectly monstrous legacy. As much as moronic.
That is truly the case. it's hard to believe anyone depends on myths and legends when Science and technology are making advancements towards knowing, rather than religions pretending to know. Thanks!
Joan D'Arc isn't a Fictional Character like jesus, who was alleged born to a VIRGIN, which is sooooo believable. Joan was born in France in 1412, their is a grave with her material remains. christo-Psychotics are still looking for a non-existent shroud of Turin, and a boat created by one clown who supposedly built a boat, by himself, then collected EVERY single species on Our planet, TWO of EACH (fleas included). One is a 2,000 year old fable, and one is factual, documented history.
Perhaps, but Joan of Arc is far more likely. There is no possible way that jesus existed, especially when expected to believe jesus came from a women who didn't have coitus. religion is absolute nonsense. Thanks for commenting.
Corporation's,Govt's and Church's prey on their victims subconscious mind over which each preyed on individual has virtually no understanding at all. Who made people this ignorant...the Corporation's, Govts and Church's of course!
religion makes people self-righteous, without any justification whatsoever, in fact, quite the contrary. religion turns typical human beings into Mentally Ill Morons who believe a childish fairy tale is real, and makes them fight other religious idiots who claim that their fairy tale is real. No religions have a clue how the Universe came to be, only Science has a basic understanding, or theories that are more likely in any case. religion is the greatest threat to humanity.
Yes, he's fantastic, and dead honest. relgious leaders are liars and their followers are ignorant. The pope doesn't "pray," he "Preys." Like Kitchens would say "they're a bunch of hucksters." Thanks for watching and commenting too!
Well, sorry, but Hitchens is only partially correct here. The reason historians don't take the Jesus Myth thesis seriously is because it's based on some rather superficial arguments and a poor understanding of history.
He gets it right towards the end though: the fakery of the story is an indication that we are talking about a HISTORICAL FIGURE around whom myths accumulated.
True enough, in the sense that jesus was just a crappy carpenter and big mouth loony who was likely stoned to death for wandering around a village of moronic primitives who had been brain washed to believe in this "god" person without a shred of evidence, while claiming to be this "god" person's divine offspring. Today jesus would have been known as the town drunk or fool, certainly not divine, nor bright. Thanks for watching and commenting!
More like a devout Jew, rabbi and faith healer called Yeshua ben Yosef, who was crucified by the Romans for causing a disturbance in the Jerusalem temple at Passover and claiming to be the Messiah who would introduce the Kingdom of Jahweh.
You are correct though that the way we'd characterise him now is probably as a 'nutter'. Still, I think it's important to get the story straight and not try to commit character assassination on Jesus (by claiming he did not exist, for instance).
Hutchens makes valid points. Of course, he's a typical full of himself "intellectual" who makes observations and conclusions that the rest of us can and do all day, yet we don't get to publish books and get paid for our equally valid thoughts...
True, but he is articulate and argument specific in a way most aren't capable of. The elements and organization are well beyond the grasp of most people, but, there are lot of people. Anyone is free to write a book, or host speaking engagements and hire any speakers they chose, some are better than others.
Indeed, and most of his arguments were considered tried and true more than 100 years ago (see the essays of Col. Ingersoll at Project Gutenberg/Librivox).
Still, as Twain's editor told him when he tried to quit because he'd already said everything he had to say, "Yes, but you have to keep saying it until they get it."
I would also note the merit in being able to say "have done," rather than "could do." The first step in getting published is actually writing the book.
If a whole lot more people thought like Hitchens the world would be full of hope. Think of how far behind we are technologically because of crazy god fearing leaders killing people who thought differantly. I bet anything every that if we never made up god, we wouldn't be in half the trouble we've gotted ourselves into.
LOL! Thanks Jer! So true as well. The loonies are keeping us from doing stem cell research and many other advancements. They're Stone Age thinkers, at best.
Exactly right, and a huge contributing factor to palin's lack of intellectual development. religion will dull a mind like chopping a boulder dulls an axe.
@mccainisthrough Yes. Religion stunts intellectual growth something fierce. I know plenty who are religious and the 'logic' that emanates from their mouths is astounding. It's as if they're in a suspended state of arrested development...
Have I understood this correctly? That the oldest witness account about Jesus came from Saint Paul, who made these accounts 50 YEARS after Jesus' supposed death? And these accounts described him as Christ, the son of God?
If this is true ... How the hell can any historian seriously believe in Jesus? This is embarrassing LOL
MrOceanPenguin 2 weeks ago
@MrOceanPenguin
It is true, and the clergy has been unresponsive to the facts. But, no less unresponsive than they have to the over 11,000 charges of child molestation against them since the 50's, or to the arrest of the vatican's pedophilia adviser, riccardo seppia, who was arrested for child molestation last year. Thanks for watching too!
mccainisthrough 5 days ago
@mccainisthrough Thank you for clarifying. :-)
MrOceanPenguin 5 days ago
@MrOceanPenguin
Thanks! Our pleasure.
mccainisthrough 4 days ago
Jesus is a bastard son, because his mother fucked someone else than her husband and she didn't dare to tell him. So she made up this story of this "god".
blootmens 1 month ago
@blootmens
LOL! Probably the truth too. Be Well!
mccainisthrough 4 weeks ago
hitchens was given cancer by jesus
ukipwarrior 1 month ago
@ukipwarrior
Yeah, makes lots of sense you hateful Kook. Presumably YOU call yourself an "all-loving christian" like YOUR mythical and Man-Made "jesus," who never existed, not even in the fable where he tells his pals to steal a couple donkeys, and blames it on the Man-Made "god" clown: matthew 21:2-3
Idiots, you're entertaining to the bright and sane, and a danger to Our planet, that has no connection whatsoever to the offensive drivel of religion, see hosea 13:16, Idiot.
mccainisthrough 1 month ago
@ukipwarrior
Wow. What a swell god you have there!
JeniusRetard 1 month ago
@JeniusRetard
Yes, tolerant and kind, as well as primitive, malevolent and murderous, the mark of a true gentlemen ...Thanks for having watched!
mccainisthrough 4 weeks ago
Jesus never existed, well Doh.
star50ify 2 months ago 2
@star50ify
Yes, and Happy New Year!
mccainisthrough 1 month ago
i'll put is this way: real guy - fake miracles. the supernatural part was added to the story by mathew and st paul, decades after jesus died.
FOIIAD 1 year ago 2
@FOIIAD
That could be correct, but wherever the puzzle pieces form into one solid reality, they don't involve any supernatural beings, nor this made-up "god" fellow. Thanks for watching and commenting!
mccainisthrough 1 year ago
And very few Atheists actually stress that fact: The ridiculous Christ guy did not exist. And a s a myth leaves a perfectly monstrous legacy. As much as moronic.
danielrep 1 year ago 2
@danielrep
That is truly the case. it's hard to believe anyone depends on myths and legends when Science and technology are making advancements towards knowing, rather than religions pretending to know. Thanks!
mccainisthrough 1 year ago 4
@danielrep yeah and Joan of Arc didn't exist either.
Jmsadv 1 year ago
@Jmsadv
Joan D'Arc isn't a Fictional Character like jesus, who was alleged born to a VIRGIN, which is sooooo believable. Joan was born in France in 1412, their is a grave with her material remains. christo-Psychotics are still looking for a non-existent shroud of Turin, and a boat created by one clown who supposedly built a boat, by himself, then collected EVERY single species on Our planet, TWO of EACH (fleas included). One is a 2,000 year old fable, and one is factual, documented history.
mccainisthrough 1 year ago 2
@Jmsadv The christian's made her up just like Christ. Joan never existed. A 17 year old girl leading a army. How riduious.
Jmsadv 1 year ago
@Jmsadv
Perhaps, but Joan of Arc is far more likely. There is no possible way that jesus existed, especially when expected to believe jesus came from a women who didn't have coitus. religion is absolute nonsense. Thanks for commenting.
mccainisthrough 1 year ago
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"Joan never existed. A 17 year old girl [Joan of Arc] leading a army. How riduious."
There's a difference between 'didn't exist' and 'was used as a figurehead'.
KapStuf 2 months ago
Honest, articulate, and educated...christians worst nightmare
420dudemeister 1 year ago 5
@420dudemeister
Masterfully articulated, thanks!
mccainisthrough 1 year ago
Corporation's,Govt's and Church's prey on their victims subconscious mind over which each preyed on individual has virtually no understanding at all. Who made people this ignorant...the Corporation's, Govts and Church's of course!
stopjunkscience 1 year ago 3
@stopjunkscience
religion makes people self-righteous, without any justification whatsoever, in fact, quite the contrary. religion turns typical human beings into Mentally Ill Morons who believe a childish fairy tale is real, and makes them fight other religious idiots who claim that their fairy tale is real. No religions have a clue how the Universe came to be, only Science has a basic understanding, or theories that are more likely in any case. religion is the greatest threat to humanity.
mccainisthrough 1 year ago
who cares if jesus ever was.. the fucker is dead now and he is completely irrelevant
InterestingXistence 1 year ago
Yes! Well said. Thanks for watching and commenting too!
mccainisthrough 1 year ago
Yes, he's fantastic, and dead honest. relgious leaders are liars and their followers are ignorant. The pope doesn't "pray," he "Preys." Like Kitchens would say "they're a bunch of hucksters." Thanks for watching and commenting too!
mccainisthrough 1 year ago
666th view
xpostal1289x 1 year ago 2
Yes, thank "god" for that. Thanks for watching and commenting as well!
mccainisthrough 1 year ago
Well, sorry, but Hitchens is only partially correct here. The reason historians don't take the Jesus Myth thesis seriously is because it's based on some rather superficial arguments and a poor understanding of history.
He gets it right towards the end though: the fakery of the story is an indication that we are talking about a HISTORICAL FIGURE around whom myths accumulated.
But a historical figure nonetheless.
BRtankbuster 2 years ago
@BRtankbuster
True enough, in the sense that jesus was just a crappy carpenter and big mouth loony who was likely stoned to death for wandering around a village of moronic primitives who had been brain washed to believe in this "god" person without a shred of evidence, while claiming to be this "god" person's divine offspring. Today jesus would have been known as the town drunk or fool, certainly not divine, nor bright. Thanks for watching and commenting!
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
More like a devout Jew, rabbi and faith healer called Yeshua ben Yosef, who was crucified by the Romans for causing a disturbance in the Jerusalem temple at Passover and claiming to be the Messiah who would introduce the Kingdom of Jahweh.
You are correct though that the way we'd characterise him now is probably as a 'nutter'. Still, I think it's important to get the story straight and not try to commit character assassination on Jesus (by claiming he did not exist, for instance).
BRtankbuster 2 years ago 2
@BRtankbuster
Thanks for the great comment. Sharp and accurate too! Appreciated.
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
Yes totally awzum accent, still a Tool
GypsyKing7 2 years ago
LOL!
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
Very well spoken, go Chris Hitchens.
Shadowstorm8 2 years ago 10
Yes, Hitch is great.
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
there are many jesus in mexico,its pronounced hay soose.
MrTabby5000 2 years ago 4
Hutchens makes valid points. Of course, he's a typical full of himself "intellectual" who makes observations and conclusions that the rest of us can and do all day, yet we don't get to publish books and get paid for our equally valid thoughts...
marcomariaz26 2 years ago 3
@marcomariaz26
True, but he is articulate and argument specific in a way most aren't capable of. The elements and organization are well beyond the grasp of most people, but, there are lot of people. Anyone is free to write a book, or host speaking engagements and hire any speakers they chose, some are better than others.
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
Indeed, and most of his arguments were considered tried and true more than 100 years ago (see the essays of Col. Ingersoll at Project Gutenberg/Librivox).
Still, as Twain's editor told him when he tried to quit because he'd already said everything he had to say, "Yes, but you have to keep saying it until they get it."
I would also note the merit in being able to say "have done," rather than "could do." The first step in getting published is actually writing the book.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 2 years ago 4
Yes, Hitchens is outstanding! Thanks for watching and commenting too!
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
During that time there were many people named jesus,as a man I believed he may have lived, as a savior doing miracles he wasnt.
He was a man who was a liberal hippy,going against the establishment.
MrTabby5000 2 years ago 3
@MrTabby5000
That's probably correct.
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
good one
KataVideo 2 years ago 3
@KataVideo
Thanks Kata!
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
If a whole lot more people thought like Hitchens the world would be full of hope. Think of how far behind we are technologically because of crazy god fearing leaders killing people who thought differantly. I bet anything every that if we never made up god, we wouldn't be in half the trouble we've gotted ourselves into.
p.s. No money, no honey. =(
p.p.s. Great video!***** Booooo @ god
FatherOfOden 2 years ago 8
lol @ "gotted" oh well. you get the point.
FatherOfOden 2 years ago 3
LOL! Thanks Jer! So true as well. The loonies are keeping us from doing stem cell research and many other advancements. They're Stone Age thinkers, at best.
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
@FatherOfOden AMEN!!
marcomariaz26 2 years ago 2
Now you can fully understand why Palin is as she is because if you read that bible shit long enough its bound to affect your balance of mind :)
naybobdenod 2 years ago 2
Exactly right, and a huge contributing factor to palin's lack of intellectual development. religion will dull a mind like chopping a boulder dulls an axe.
mccainisthrough 2 years ago
@mccainisthrough Yes. Religion stunts intellectual growth something fierce. I know plenty who are religious and the 'logic' that emanates from their mouths is astounding. It's as if they're in a suspended state of arrested development...
marcomariaz26 2 years ago 4
@marcomariaz26
So incredibly true! Thanks for watching and the fine comments!
mccainisthrough 2 years ago