Lifeguards at Work in San Diego

[Sealofaproval]

This is called TRAINING numbnuts , nuts like you were shopping for yesterday!

[colbyyoung87]

Well to me the way I see this is the lifeguards are practicing for what is a very likely situation where some bozo that decides he wants to mess with the seals gets sucked out into the ocean. They are practicing that way they don't get hurt.

[V8S10Blazer]

The life guard should call the police and have that moron arrested for putting him in danger for no reason other than he is reckless.

[Andreaelsehahn]

As it turns out, the swimmer was a lifeguard just working out.. I really tried to give these guys the benifit of the doubt while I was filming, but he went right up into the temporary tower after performing this stunt.

[surfbum5412]

My god....your life must be painfully boring.

[Andreaelsehahn]

Only to fellas like you. I can only just imagine what you do for fun and the irreperable sheen that it leaves on your persona.

[Andreaelsehahn]

Oh my goodness spearfishing. "mean or median high tide " means nothing more or less than the average high tide.

[spearfishinglajolla]

The mean average of all the high tides (high high tides and low high tides) occurring over a certain period of time, usually 18.6 years (one lunar epoch). NOAA.

[Andreaelsehahn]

Well, you will now have to take into account Polar Ice Melt too, spearfishing, I'm sure NOAA will. Once again, your point is?

[spearfishinglajolla]

I want to clarify that creating a state marine reserve offshore Casa Beach would NOT prohibit access to the beach by humans.

The MLPA only applies to marine waters below the mean high tide line, so it cannot limit human access to the beach above the mean high tide line; this is primarily why staff do not believe an MPA is the best way to achieve the Friends of the La Jolla Seals' goal.

Melissa Miller-Henson

Program Manager

MLPA Initiative

This is from the "Program Manager" of the MLPA!

[Andreaelsehahn]

Perhaps next time you could put quotation marks around that which you profess to be quoting from? It would appear to come across more professionally in this manner. So what made you suddenly lunge toward clarification involving the MLPA extension plans? The mean high tide mark would go a good way up the beach and take up the entire shoreline now wouldn't it?

[spearfishinglajolla]

The MLPA quote is clearly listed below as who it is from. Beach access is beach access! Look up MEAN high tide! There will always be access to the ocean at Children's Pool.

[Sailorsgurl07]

i love how people care more about seals than they do humans

[Andreaelsehahn]

Sailorgurl, you found my video comments section. Why don't you go ahead and ask everyone who is pro seal to get over themselves? It is just so meaningful to read this argument after the long, difficult, and successful pro seal campaign. No wonder the seals are so exceedingly popular with the public.

[uldb]

This is Children's Pool. Not a rookery. It is a bunch of seals living behind an eight foot thick concrete wall, there is nothing natural about that.

[Andreaelsehahn]

It was a Harbor Seal Rookery/ Haul Out Site for milleniums before whalers hunted these dear animals to near extinction at the turn of the last Century. Consequently, it is quite natural for these Seals to be on this Beach in particular. What is presently unnatural is the incessant need to argue against the point of fact.

[cyberkick007]

@Andreaelsehahn

Show me an article where Harbor Seals were near extinction. I googled but couldn't find anything of the sort.

[Sailorsgurl07]

i agree its not natural

[uldb]

Ahhhh, poor seals.... Get real. This did not bother them at all.

[Andreaelsehahn]

uldb, this one act of continued harassment kept an entire Harbor Seal Colony from Hauling Out to rest. Now you don't want that do you? The average pinniped needing to spend at least 1/3 of their time at rest and on land. When they cannot do this they will lose their much needed body fat and the hemoglobin that they store in the network of veins in their fat.

[uldb]

It has never been a haul out site. Not until 1992. Before they used, and still do, seal rock and the other rocks nearby. It is not natural for a seal to be on a beach on the mainland. A seal sitting on a beach on the mainland is a very tasty meal for coyotes, lions, bears, and other predators. This was not a beach until 1931 and seals almost never came to it until 1992.

[Andreaelsehahn]

Disinformation would probably serve you better on your own channel uldb, you could screen out all the information that you don't like to believe much better that way; as for my own, the San Diego Natural History Museum has native American burial artefacts unearthed in the same area from 10,000 or so years ago and the earliest map makers named the rock that the Sea Wall is positioned on Seal Rock with the circumference area around being called Seal Point.

[uldb]

Yes, the area around the rock. You would mean the rocks. There was no beach there. This is my point. And to the "Point", there are plenty or areas named for something they are near. Seal Rock was there, so Seal Point seems right. As far as the natives, they would have hunted any seal on a beach, another predator. This beach is not a natural place for seals. That is a fact.

[Andreaelsehahn]

It was then and obviously still is an area natural to the Seals. Marine life is "normal" to the Ocean and it's beaches uldb, it is the lack of it that is not. Only the Sea Wall is artificial in your scenario of logic..

[uldb]

Your generalization is overboard.The seals were always there, on Seal Rock, which is not where you think it is, it is just to the north of CP. I do not want the seals removed from the area, just the beach, they can go back to the surrounding rocks, caves, ledges.

Lions, bears, and coyotes were all normal to this area also. The lack of them bothers me. I would not support a "Colony" of any of these taking up residence in this or any other highly populace area.

[Andreaelsehahn]

uldb, your generalization is self accomodatingly inaccurate. As for the lions, bears, and coyotes, they were indeed predators, but what is the point in suddenly rediscovering this? Your argument is that although you kinda like the seals, they could not have possibly gone onto land. This is not only innacurate, it is so very easily researched to the contrary.

[uldb]

So, seal have at times gone on land through the years. But when they did they risked the chance of being eaten. That we know (and I hope we can agree on).

There was never a beach here. There were seals, but no beach. Right?

I like seals, surprised? I just don't have the blanket and biased support for them that you do. They do not need our help and in fact I would argue that by giving them any help we are really hurting them.

[Andreaelsehahn]

Looking at an old 1929 airel photograph on page 145 of Patricia Schaelchin's "La Jolla, The Story of a Community" published through the La Jolla Library, uldb, there is a really nice patch of sand on Casa Beach, thus the beach entitlement, larger than what you would find on South Casa Beach today. Along with the reef where the Sea Wall now sits marvelously attached to land, I would again disagree. The Seals will have a Reserve again, and then they will be free to live there own lives.

[uldb]

They are free to live their own lives now. They have a reserve, the La Jolla Reserve (and many others), They have the protection of the MMA. They have Seal Rock, protected site. This is part of the problem, you think they need the beach, they don't. They don't need your help. Kelp needs more help than the seals do.

Are there seals on that piece of sand in the 1929 photo? I know the photo you speak of. There is a reason it was not named seal beach.

[Andreaelsehahn]

uldb, you are regurgitating your questions. Please toot your horn on your own channel, You're explaination puts the seals continousously in the water again, but because your ideal is a minority position, I am glad that you will not be able to actually make this call on behalf of everyone else and especially not the Seals..

[PhuckHue2]

looks like fascists in city government are gonna leave the seals alone.

[Andreaelsehahn]

And with an intelligble attitude backed up by facts we may get the Seals a new Reserve.

[uldb]

Actually, I don't care about missing their nap. They will go somewhere else or come back later.

[cat310]

Mmmm, a seal burger and Duff beer, what could be better.

[cat310]

Bring on the seal hunt baby, that will solve the problem! Nice warm fur Hug boots for all!

[Andreaelsehahn]

Oh I'm so sorry Cat, the Seals are going to win. Will you be able to adapt to the change?

[cat310]

I propose flying in Sarah Palin and some Eskimo's to hold a seal hunt! They will be mercifully clubbed to death and than we'll be able to buy toasty warm, seal lined, designer Hug boots at the swanky shops in La Jolla! Everyone wins and no more annoying seals or loudspeakers plus ton's of litigation money saved!

Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head, bang bang...

[Andreaelsehahn]

Oh I'm so sorry Cat, did'nt you hear that she's being forced out of Office? You can still probably write her in on the ballot for the next Presidential Election, but you know these things never work out.

[cat310]

Club the seals, blood in the water baby! Get some small clubs for the kids, start them out young!

[Andreaelsehahn]

Now Cat, you're not actually that stupid are you? Tell me that you're just being a little creep.

[Andreaelsehahn]

I was, of course, trying to give these lifeguards the benefit of the doubt on account of the crucial service that they provide for little guys like you.

[uscgswimmer1]

I find her voice so FUCKING annoying! Trying to narrate but doesnt know whats happening. Stupid women