Nope..........It can be done, but it shouldn't there is a difference. Islam is a way of life for ALL people in ALL times and ALL nations. Then you will have find other things e.g. slaves. The main thing is you use it as a guide and see what is best at that time. For each decision there are a hundred options even in Islam. It is not always do this and done, but look at what is best in the good way.
@TheAminaB24 No, that is wrong. You and I both know that the Qu'ran and hadiths instruct Muslims to emulate Muhammad. He is universally held up as the finest character and his behaviour should be imitated. He had sex with a child and because of this, the systematic marriage of little girls to old men has gone on for centuries in Arabian countries and will likely not stop. Allah in his wisdom would have known that this would happen but decided to give no 'revelation' preventing it.
@Daveyboyroy Hahhaha, sorry I wasn’t at my machine that long. I do have things to add, yes emulate his ways but you should be acting in accordance to the teachings of the four imams. Whichever sect you follow, there are up to 72 sects of Muslims not unlike that of Christians and other faiths. I have double checked this, a number of my family members are scholars in this regard, you do need to check the society that you reside in and then apply the teachings as such.
@Daveyboyroy P.S I have an odd feeling that I’m repeating myself. The majority of people will not understand the exact teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH); this is why it is very important to follow an imam which enables understanding to a greater extent. Again if you fall in with the wrong people misunderstanding can lead to bad practices, as humans we were given the ability to engage our brains not looking at history, causes and consequences makes you a sheep.
@Daveyboyroy P.P.S Islam promotes the seeker of knowledge, so you need to find out information before you follow. Because I feel like I am going around in circles I think it may be best to refrain from commenting further. It was an ‘enlightening’ discussion though, thank you for all your input.
@TheAminaB24 You haven't listened to the point I put forward. My point was regarding Muhammad's behaviour, not that of his followers. He had sex with a child and as I pointed out, the argument that his behaviour was 'of the time' is invalid, for the reason I stated.
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Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. - Jeremiah 6:16
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Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. - Psalm 12:6-7
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. - Proverbs 30:5-6
So a man who preached a doctrine of love, compassion and forgiveness led you to a man who had sex with a child, beheaded 700 men and boys in one day because of the fault of their tribal elders, tortured a man to find his tribe's treasure and had 80 or so people (including women) murdered in a 10 year period JUST for criticising him. Fair play. Jog on you tosser.
@Daveyboyroy Still...I'm trying to figure out how can someone be so awful...it would really help me to tell me that man's name and where can I find him?
@Daveyboyroy you obviously fell into islamophobia with all of the lies against Prophet Muhammad. You actually think true Muslims believe in that? If you did a disortation on Islam at the highest school of learning, Harvard or higher, you would fail miserably. Aisha was about 19 when she married the Prophet, that is a fact. Muhammad was no murderer.
@ENCharlem I'm an Islamorealist, not an Islamophobe. Phobias are irrational fears. My distrust of Islam is entirely rational because of what is found in the Qu'ran and only the most trusted and reliable hadiths. The many narrations in Bukhari stating that she was 9 at consummation and the fact that Muhammad's example of sex with a child has been systematically emulated in the Arab world proves to me that she was indeed a child. As for murder, to deny he had people assassinated is just silly.
@Daveyboyroy If this is correct then your way of living was also build on corruption you see the western world until a few centuries ago believed in 'child' marriages. But what depicts a woman as a child? Society? Currently’ women’ are engaging in sex at the 'tender' age of 11 and falling pregnant and having abortions they are on drugs and alcohol and people are barely blinking an eye.
@TheAminaB24 My way of living is built on personal morals and ethics. What went on centuries ago is irrelevant because 'the West' has moved on. Thanks to the enlightenment and other such movements, we now have a greater respect for humanity as a whole and we realise where our ancestors went wrong. Islam, on the other hand is still stuck with the terrible example of a false prophet having sex with a child and as Muslims are commanded to emulate him, they will never move on like 'the West' has.
Hey Daveyboyroy, thank you for your response. Maybe, but what exactly is moving on? Free consumption of drugs? Increase in STDs? Increase in alcohol poisening? Islam is an way of life. Like I said there will always be idiots that are too cowardly or ignorant to follow the laws correctly. Plus it is not irrelevant because it was again 1400years ago. If anything the West has become worse then before men and women now, lie down and make a baby but do not stand up to be a parent.
@TheAminaB24 I agree with you 100% like I said, there are things going wrong but this is just a diversion. The issue we are dealing with is Muhammad having sex with a 9 year old girl when he was 54. Let's stay on topic.
@Daveyboyroy Hmmmmm................it is on topic. 'Yeah so?' This practice was right for that time. It isn't now, so men shouldn't be doing it. Better??
@Daveyboyroy either way you look at it, it's a messed up world only because of the people though. If you want to be right you have to do right. If you have something good, then we all only need to look a little deeper then we might find the answers that are right. But good personal morals and ethics is a good place to start.
@TheAminaB24 I do agree with you however that societies are failing children in not preparing them properly for their movement into adulthood. As for what constitutes a woman, it isn't as most Muslims tell me which is that as soon as a girl begins menstruating, she is ready for sex. This is totally wrong. Puberty is a process through which young people pass and it is only at the END of which that a girl is both physically and emotionally ready for sex.
P.S Aisha(RA) was actually married at 6 and the marriage was consummated at 9, when she had reached puberty. She never bore him a child. And she was protected against accusations regarding adultery by God and her husband. If society can dictate what a person can think then it has way too much control. You have to look at the way of the world is now and apply the knowledge in a responsible fashion.
@TheAminaB24 I refer you to my previous comment. A girl is in no way ready to have sex at age NINE, particularly with a 54 year old man. Puberty is a process, at the END of which a girl is ready for sex - she isn't ready just because she has reached her first menses. That's false. Of course you want to defend your prophet, but any defence doesn't counter the truth which is that she was playing with dolls and was a little child. No 9 year old should be sleeping with a 54 year old, period.
P.P.S These people that you talk of are using Islam as a shield. If the religion is not for you fine, please don't hate. But I would recommend you look into it and not pick and choose ideas propagated by the media it’s really bad on the brain. :-)
@TheAminaB24 Look into it? What do you think I have been doing? I haven't listened to the media at all. With the particular matter of Aisha, I've been reading Bukhari, Abu Dawud and Muslim.
@Daveyboyroy Chill, I know. Yes I am defending him and I will. For that time this was correct. For this time it is not, I would gladly stand up against men doing this now. Because it is wrong.
Refer to where I said about looking at the world now and applying the knowledge. Personally I would castrate any man doing this 'now'. E.g. Pregnancy is OK out of wedlock now but it wasn't a few years back, fornication is OK but few years back it wasn't. - just recent examples to think on.
@TheAminaB24 The 'everyone was doing it back then so it's ok' excuse would work for every man in 7th century Arabia, except one, Muhammad. Muhammad claimed to be receiving 'revelations' including specific instructions on how to behave eg eating, drinking, praying etc. These commands were not JUST for those people at that time, they were for ALL people of ALL times, including you and me today. So if it was seen to be ok by Allah then, then we know Allah thinks it's ok now. Which it isn't.
logic for the blasphemous heathen:1) Archeological evidence supporting the exsistance of the apostles of Christ has been found. 2) These apostles (who were eyewitnesses to Christs' life, death, resurrection and acsention) were executed for their testimony of the gospel of Christ during the 1st century for the exception of John who was boiled in oil and survived and later died of natural causes. Why and how could or would anyone subject themselves to such circumstances if it were not true?
@177Jeremiah7 there are many discrepancies and errors in the King James Bible, go study Biblical history and textual criticism. Even Christian Bible scholars admit there are contradictions and errors but claim that it is perfected by faith because it is an issue of faith. Don't be naive.
@ENCharlem Sir, I am not being naive. I have studied this issue for quite a while now and more and more am I convinced that the King James Holy Bible is God's perfect and pure word. Science is now beginning to catch up with the King James Bible, there are no errors in the text of the KJB. And by the way, the more I study the Bible Version Issue, the more convinced I am that the King James Bible is the inerrant and 100% true word of God. (Continued)...
@ENCharlem Now, there are contradictions and errors in the new versions. In modern versions like the NIV, ESV, NASB, NLT, Message, LB, HCSB, TNIV, RSV, NRSV, and many more, there are errors and heresies that can be found. But not one error or contradiction has ever been found in the King James Bible. Study the issue sir, and realize that in over 400 years, the text of the King James Bible and also its underlying Greek and Hebrew text has not changed at all.
If a person will study the Bible Version Issue; and do it diligently, then he/she will start to see that the Inerrancy of the Bible is being attacked like never before, with a new translation being rolled out every six months and claiming to be more accurate to the "original." One with a sane mind can only wonder when will the confusion end? Thankfully the Holy Ghost opened my eyes to this issue and to the truth about the Bible Version Issue.
Where does joshua get the idea from that there are 100s of 1000s of manuscripts and that none are alike? We dont have 100s of 1000s of manuscripts. We only have about 30000 manuscripts and none of them are IDENTICAL. They are ALL ALIKE. There is a big difference between being ALIKE and being IDENTICAL. The former means that there are differences but they basically say the same thing, the latter means there's not an iota of difference. Even the Quran has manuscripts that arent identical.
@Nakdimon316 The Quran in its native language is always identical and has been for over a 1000years which is the beginning of Islam. People don't be mean it isn't becoming. Listen or go away.
@TheAminaB24 no the Quran is not identical. Go study your own sources. Just because your imams dont fill you in on the juicy details doesnt mean that there arent any variants. It may be SIMILAR, but not IDENTICAL. For example: Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 57, Number 105 talks about how Surah 92:1 was changed. In the days of Muhammad it used to read "By the male an the female", yet your Quran now reads "By HIM WHO CREATED the male and the female". This is ONE of the MAY variants in your Quran.
@Nakdimon316 My apologies clarification; in Arabic (without all the dots and so on) it is unchanged. Imam Abu Hanifa is the Imam I follow, does not mean I stay ignorant. I do my best to see what the other Imams say about whatever I may be looking at. Are you looking at translations? If so then yes interpretations may differ. One of the miracles of Islam is that the Qur'an in its original text is unchanged. Plus mind your tongue and don't be nasty, this is a discussion after all.
They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.
It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.
So if it is grammatically impossible to translate from Aramaic or Hebrew into Greek, how is it possible that the Qur’an translate from Greek into Arabic? Because this would undoubtedly change the name Yeshua’ into a unrecognisable form.
Also the Ayin/Ayn is on the opposite end of 'Isa. So the Qur'an has produced more grammatical errors than the ones already existing through translating from either Latin or Greek.
Conclusion. The Arabic name for Jesus has been formed through various stages of translation. Firstly from Aramaic or Hebrew, then into Latin or Greek, and finally back into Arabic, hence his name is translitered incorrectly from the Arabic as 'Isa. Honour his true name of Yeshua or Yusha.
In order for the Bible to lead you to Islam, you just have to read a few words that sound like works for Salvation, and ignore all the others that point to Jesus dying on the cross FOR Salvation. Also, you need to NOT believe the Bible is to be rightly divided through dispensations.
It is ironic that he has chosen the name Yusha, the true name for Jesus in Arabic, yet he does not realise the name 'Isa in the Qur'an is wrong. Type in Jesus or Joshua in any Aramaic Lexicon and Concordance, and the name YeSHuOE is the result every time.
For example in the name Yeshua’, which are the letters, Yod + Shin + Waw + Ayin (’), the Yod becomes Ye, but as the Greek has no consonant y, it is replaced by pairing together the Greek letters I + ē (iota + eta), and is vocalised as the ee-ay.
Islam is THE Religion. None other than Islam dare to claim the truth fullness. Allah claimed his the creator of all things. Any other dare to make such a claim? No one!!. Why must choose the truth? because we are the most brainy creatures Allah has created . Except we hate of being brainy!!.
@Ole12121 Jesus did not die. His body died, but since He is considered a God , the Spirit did not die. That's why He was resurrected. And then He went back to His kingdom. I did not say that Jesus was God because as I said all this organized religion is fairy tales. Jesus was simply a copy of another religion (Mithraism). All these organized religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc) are nothing but fairy tales!
@Ole12121 God can do anything He wants. If He wants to come to the earth by birth, that's what He will do. I was only saying that Jesus is a copy of the pagan gods.
Jesus said HE was the final one. Islam means submission to the revised religion of Muhammad. Thru the ages many have claimed to have the only true message or to have had angels visit them. Before Jesus came, there had been many claiming to be the prophesied Christ. Some today claim Jesus was not the Christ but THEY are! The challenge thru time has been to examine & test someone's claims.
A true apostle MUST have signs, miracles and wonders as proof God is with them.(1 Cor.12:12)
@fearworshipGod If you say that a true apostle/prophet must have signs, miracles etc, can you show me the signs that accompanied the old prophets, the prophets of the Old testament? Also read the old testament to see what the Old testament says about the Messiah, and you'll see that Jesus is not a true son/prophet of God, so the Jews were right not to accept him. It also says in the Old testament that you do not have to believe in the Messiah to be saved. Read it please not just the NT.
@AndyMKordo -I said an apostle must have these signs. An apostle is not the same position as a prophet. Some of the OT prophets did have signs, like Abraham praying for Abimelech's wife, Elijah and Elisha's miracles, etc. The Old testament is exactly that-the old testament. The Messiah had not yet been sent to bring in the new covenant (new testament).
@fearworshipGod What link has the apostle with the prophet? You were talking about Jesus and prophets and then suddenly you said sth about apostles. Jesus is a copy of multiple pagan gods: Mithra, Osiris. The God Mithra was born in December 25, same time when Christmas is celebrated! And the followers of the god Mithra celebrated Eucharist with bread and wine, like Christians, and Mithra had 12 disciples (like Jesus). Even if a book says sth that does not mean it's the truth.
There is a Heaven, and mohammad cannot get you there. There is a Hell and mohammad cannot save you from it because he is dead. Turn away from this cult and come to Christ, the Son of the One True Living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, of which "allah" is NOT. Stop being beguiled buy these human philosiphers who preach soul-damning doctrine, and receive the salvation that God has planned for you before the foundation of the world was laid.
Quran: Lo! Those who disbelieve among the people of Scripture and idilaters will abide in the Fire Hell.They are worst of created beings,And Lo! Those who believe and do good works are the best of created beings.Their reaward is with their Lord;Garden of Eden underneath with river flow,wherein the dwell forever.Allah is pleased with them and they are please with Him.This is(In store) for him who fears his Lord,=
I bear witness there Is Only One God and Muhammad PBUH is the Last Prophet
@ops4christ None of the Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah say that God will procreate a son. Read your Bible. The messiah is the "anointed one."
@ENCharlem Isa:9:6: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jer:23:5: "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth." It would appear that you are the one who needs to read more.
@ENCharlem Mic:5:2: "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." Zec:9:9: "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass."
(1) (All) praise is due to Allah, Who revealed the Book to His servant and did not make in it any crookedness.(2) Rightly directing, that he might give warning of severe punishment from Him and give good news to the believers who do good that they shall have a goodly reward,(3) Staying in it for ever;(4) And warn those who say: Allah has taken a son.(5) They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers; a grievous word it is that comes out of their mouths; they speak nothing but a lie.
@ahmedbalabl The koran is Mohammad's word. It has nothing of God within it. Even jesus has been emasculated by Mohammad who has had himself elevated 2 his god. God's Word refutes the koran which calls God's Word a lie by denying Jesus died 4 the sins of the world + the Son of God. Muslims r sadly both blind + wilfully ignorant of God's Word. 1 SAVIOUR WHO IS JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD WHO IS GOD IN THE FLESH...Mohammad is DEAD. JESUS IS RISEN!!!
(17) He sends down water from the cloud, then watercourses flow (with water) according to their measure, and the torrent bears along the swelling foam, and from what they melt in the fire for the sake of making ornaments or apparatus arises a scum like it; thus does Allah compare truth and falsehood; then as for the scum, it passes away as a worthless thing; and as for that which profits the people, it tarries in the earth; thus does Allah set forth parables.
16) Say: Who is the Lord of the heavens and the earth?-- Say: Allah. Say: Do you take then besides Him guardians who do not control any profit or harm for themselves? Say: Are the blind and the seeing alike? Or can the darkness and the light be equal? Or have they set up with Allah associates who have created creation like His, so that what is created became confused to them? Say: Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Supreme.
(14) To Him is due the true prayer; and those whom they pray to besides Allah give them no answer, but (they are) like one who stretches forth his two hands towards water that it may reach his mouth, but it will not reach it; and the prayer of the unbelievers is only in error.
(15) And whoever is in the heavens and the earth makes obeisance to Allah only, willingly and unwillingly, and their shadows too at morn and eve.
(12) He it is Who shows you the lightning causing fear and hope and (Who) brings up the heavy cloud.
(13) And the thunder declares His glory with His praise, and the angels too for awe of Him; and He sends the thunderbolts and smites with them whom He pleases, yet they dispute concerning Allah, and He is mighty in prowess.
Jesus was called "the Messiah" by Allah in the Qur'an. And Jesus was even born of a virgin (Surah 3:45-57)! Yet Muhammad who had 12 wives, 2 concubines, and participated in many attacks on innocent caravans and villages, and insisted on 20% of all the booty from these raids -- is supposed to be the greatest of the prophets.
The Qur'an tells us that Jesus Christ did not atone for anyone's sins, although he was himself sinless (Surah 3:46) and is one of those who are near to God (Surah 3:45). Positively, the Qur'an says that Jesus Christ performed miracles (Surah 3:49; 5:110) and was the Messiah
(39) 39 - (Iblis) said: O my Lord because thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair seeming to them on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong,
(40) 40 - Except thy servants among them, sincere and purified (by thy grace).
(41) 41 - (God) said: This (way of my sincere servants) is indeed a way that leads straight to me.
(42) 42 - For over my servants no authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong and follow thee.
@ahmedbalabl Wrong again. Jesus said in John 14:6 " I am the way the truth and the life. Non one comes to the Father except through me." You can do good deeds until the cows come home and still lift your face up in hell. There is NO OTHER WAY TO HEAVEN EXCEPT THROUGH CHRIST. And that goes for you AND Oprah.
And there are far too many more scriptures that say so to not get this one right.
@ahmedbalab I was just thinking. In light of what I said about my ancestors being slaves and all; just who were they singing and praying to while they were out in the fields working? Was it allah? Nope. History proves that they were singing and praying to the God of the Bible, not the allah. And in return they were rewarded freedom out of slavery. When the civil rights movement took place; was it allah they prayed to? Nope. It was the God of the Bible. What has allah done for any one?
@ops4christknow your talking about my sins and that am going to hell , and your sins is sendig you to heaven because you beleive in jesus !! .. is christianty the relegion of "make sins as you like at the end your going to heaven because its already forgiven"
@ahmedbalabl Close, but not quite. Christians are NOT perfect people, we are people who have been saved by grace given to us through Christ. This is NOT a religion that I and other christians have but a relationship with Christ. And as we get closer to Him, our desire to be more like Him grows. Jesus laid the foundation on how we are to live our lives; loving others, helping the poor, and not submitting to sin. And this is the key, NOT submitting to sin because of your love for the Lord.
@ahmedbalabl Romans 6:1-2 says "What shall we say then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; so how can we live in it any longer?" Now I will tell you that if you can sin and not feel any remorse, you have a very serious problem and will be in danger of hells fire unless you repent, and come to Christ. when adam and eve sinned, humanity's fellowship with God took a nasty fall. Jesus restored that fellowship on the cross. So you see, He IS THE ONLY WAY.
@ahmedbalabl I will go as far as to get a little personal only because I feel the need in these circumstances. Before I came to Christ, all I lived for was to sin. Each entire day was dedicated to satisfying my fleshly desires. I learned the hard way on how sin can sabotage your life when you consistantly submit to it. When I came to Christ, I started living to please God; not my flesh. That is the difference between being saved and not being saved. The deciding factor of Heven or hell.
@ahmedbalabl Nothing. Because allah does not exist. And I may be guilty of being a bit brash, but the facts are the facts. Name ONE thing allah ever did for any one. Name ONE miracle mohammad ever performed to prove himself the prophet he said that he was.
@ops4christ Can I just clear something up. Allah (swt) is the God from Judaism that christianity takes it's roots from. Us living is a miracle from God. Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was our prophet and though we disagree we also agree on some points. You said Allah does not exist. Allah means the one God, so you don't believe in that. Just because christianity seems right to you doesn't make it true.
@jusefbehit Wrong again. Remember, chistianity came over 575 years before islam and the quran. and had already been worshiping the one true living God of the old testament. The problem with both judaism and islam is thier refusal to acknowledge Christ as the Son of the living God. And the have refused even though the old testament has several prophets that have predicted the arrival of Christ, and I have already given them to you. You all just choose to not believe.
@023abdel MATTHEW 8:29. MATTHEW 26:63-66. MARK 3:11-12. LUKE 1:35. LUKE 8:28. JOHN 20:28-31. JOHN 1:49. JOHN 3:18. JOHN 10:36. JOHN 11:4. Make the effort 2 actually read God's Inspired Word the Bible rather than spouting off what u hear other ignorant ppl say!!! Jesus has many titles. Son of man + Son of God r only 2 of HUNDREDS of titles unique 2 the Son of God...1 SAVIOUR WHO IS JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD WHO IS GOD IN THE FLESH!!!
know your talking about my sins and that am going to hell , and your sins is sendig you to heaven because you beleive in jesus !! .. is christianty the relegion of "make sins as you like at the end your going to heaven because its already forgiven"
Here is a very trustworthy saying. Those who denounce the Bible do not do so because it cotradicts itself (which it does'nt), but because it contradicts mans sinful lifestyle. The truth of the matter is the sinful nature of man would rather fornicate, lie, harbor hatred towards others, be drunkards and homosexuals, steal, murder, and commit adultry than to hold firm to the Bible and it's teachings which warns us against all of the aforementioned.
@ops4christ Tell me how many copy of the bible you christians have , do u really beleive that the copy your reading is the words of jesus .
we muslims have one copy of the quraan all over the world and over decades, and god said in holy quraan : 'Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian' (سورة الحجر )
@ahmedbalabl There are far too many biblical scriptures, writen by numerous God-inspired authors, in both the old and New testiment to not get this one right. And any account contrary to what the Bible says about the diety of Jesus, is a lie from the pits of hell meant only to deter you from excepting Christ who is the ONLY mediator between God and mankind.
@ahmedbalabl To deny that Jesus is God in the flesh, crucified for the atonement of sins then resurrected and ascended into Heaven, is to deney yourself Gods' love and mercy. your sins WILL remain and you WILL die in them and WILL be sent to hell on the day of judgement. And if you have any doubts, then you had better see
if Jesus was God himself and on the same time he is the son of God why did he lied and say his name is Jesus when you know that his name should be Yahweh?
Did God gave birth to himself, sent himself as the messenger and called himself as his own son? Why did the first thing he said was "I am the Messiah" instead of"I am God" . In the end he still says "I AM HE" wth?
@ahmadaz96001 Look, If you do not believe, you do not believe. Iike I said, there are far too many scriptures, writen by numorous God inspired authors, in both the old testament and new to get this one wrong and I have posted just about all of them on this thread. Truth is, you have been so beguiled by the SELF PROCLAIMED prophet mohammad that you muslims cannot see the forest because of the trees.
Muhammad PBUH shows that you don't need to be 18 to marry others. 1400 years ago girls don't go to school or play the piano. There's nothing they do besides cook and play. Once they reach puberty, they marry. Puberty=sex=adulthood
In the United States, by the 1880s, most states set the age of consent at ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven.
You're from the States. Were your ancestors also a bunch of pedophiles? no right?
@ahmadaz96001 First of all, I am African American. My acestors more than likely were slaves, but that is besides the point. Jesus, being fully man and fully God walked this earth for 33 years and did not marry ( not dismissing the privilidge of marriage) or commit one solitary sin. the avrarage person can't even reach age 5 without telling a lie to their parents. Mohammad certainly was no exception as he murderd, raped, stole and commited many more atrocities. Proof will follow this post.
@ops4christ At the age of 20 Muhammad was hired by a wealthy woman named Khadija (or Khadeejah) to manage her late husband's caravan business. When Muhammad was 25 he married Khadija; six children were born to them, but only one survived to adulthood; his beloved daughter Fatima. While in the caravan business Muhammad happened to make many journeys to Syria and Palestine. During this time Muhammad became acquainted with both Jews and Christians.
@ops4christ Later, the monk-like Muhammad would cause things to be written in the Koran about both Jewish and Christian history, which shows that Muhammad did not possess an intellect befitting a historian. It has also been thought that Muhammad could not read or write. In fact, the Qur'an says Muhammad was illiterate (Ummi) in Surah 7:157
@ops4christ This marriage to the much older Khadija, who was then 40 years old and who already had been married twice proved very fortunate to Muhammad. Muhammad suddenly became equal to the richest men in Mecca. While married to Khadija Muhammad did not marry any other wife. However, after she died, Muhammad would show no restraint in his self gratification for lust with multiple wives, slaves, captives, and even his own adoptive son Zaid's wife.
@ahmadaz96001 What makes Jesus different from mohammad is that; 1) mohommad did not give his life in order for us to receive salvation as Jesus did. 2) Jesus never killed or tought that you should kill any one as mohommad did both. 3) mohommad sinned in numorous ways but Jesus Never sinned once. 4) Jesus performed many miracals in to prove He was in fact who He said He was, mohammad did not perform not one and yet the muslim holds his teacings in more reverence than those of Christ. etc.
@ahmadaz9600 Again, you have read ONE verse and have taken it's essence way out of context.
2 Chronicles15:13 was written in a time when just about every nation was in battle for the sake of territory. The Isrealites, on many occasions, found themselves in battle and at times became the subject of defeat at the hands of other nations. Where then, they would be forced into pagan idol worship by these other nations. Again, read the entire 15th chapter to understand just what you're reading.
@ops4christ This is an example of killing in the Bible
2 Chronicles 15:13 - "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman".
And Muhammad never rape anyone. He only had sex with his slaves which is permitted even in the Holy Bible of yours. "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her...." Exodus 21:7-11
@ahmadaz96001 The difference from the slaves that the Bible is referring to is that those slaves were to actually be bought, but mohommads slaves were obtained by way of violent butcheries and blood thirsty caravans. By which innocent women and children were harshly FORCED into slavery.
Deuteronomy 21:11: "if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife". - This is basically "rape" isn't it?
That verse simply says that you can have sex with the slaves you capture from war. There is no need to marry because no slave would want to marry their captor. There's no logic in that.
Those were verses from your Holy Book. I'm not judging, but that's the way everyone do things back then.
@ahmadaz96001 You know I find it extraordinaryly amuzing how you can take bits and pieces of the Bible that suit you and yet dismiss other parts of it.
@ahmadaz96001 And you are right about one thing; That is how they did things back THEN before Christ.
mohammad came almost 2000 years or so after that very scripture and over 500+ years AFTER Christ. And mohammads slaves were not captives of war, as this biblical scripture is speaking of. Muhammad led 27 military campaigns against innocent villages and caravans & planned 38 others. NOWHERE I MEAN NOWHERE in the Bible promotes the spilling of innocent blood. In fact the Bible warns against it
@ops4christ Maria al-Qibtiyya is the slave/concubine who was sent as a gift from Muqawqis, a Christian Byzantine official, to the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
Deuteronomy 13:13-14: If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act (worship of different god) has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.
@ops4christ Muhammad used to color his hair red to hide his gray hair. He is said to have had a large hairy egg sized mole under his left shoulder. Not being able to find any prophecy of Muhammad's coming in the Bible - many foolish Arabs have tried to 'tie' this hairy mole into Isaiah 9, where it is written, "the government shall be upon his shoulder".
@ops4christ People used to ask Muhammad's favorite child bride Aisha how the Prophet lived at home. "Like an ordinary man," she answered. "He would sweep the house, stitch his own clothes, mend his own sandals; water the camels, milk the goats, help the servants at their work, and eat his meals with them; and he would go to fetch a thing we needed from the market." Aisha (only 6 when married) believed whatever Muhammad told her about his divine inspiration.
@ops4christ Muhammad posed as an apostle of God. Yet his life is filled with lustfulness (12 marriages and sex with a child, slaves and concubines), rapes, warfare, conquests, and unmerciful butcheries. The infinitely good, just and all holy God simply cannot tolerate anything in the least unjust or sinful.Muhammad led 27 military campaigns against innocent villages and caravans & planned 38 others “I am the prophet that laughs when killing my enemies.”(Hadith)
@ahmadaz96001 So let me get this straight. Christ is not the Son of God because some pedifiliac, murderous, depraved minded, self proclaimed prophet who came over 575 years after the Christian Bible said so? I have read all about the history of mohammad and if you revere his "teacings", which are contrary to what God had already set in place 575+ before mohammads birth, then in hell will you lift up your eyes right along side your beloved false prophet for rejecting Christ. See John 3:16-18.
@ops4christ 2 Chronicles15:13 is refering to a time in Isreal when reformation was taking place after the the isrealites had went astray and became subject to God's wrath. Try reading the entire chapter so that you may better understand just what it is you are reading. Secondly, let's keep the focus on Jesus vs. Mohammad in respects of whos account of the diety of Christ is most cedible. I have posted a number of mohammads exploits. You do the math.
@ops4christ 1 John 5:9-11 "We except man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. Anyone who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar becuse he has not believed the tesimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony; God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son."
@ops4christ PRAISE THE LORD!!! It's been wonderful just reading ur comments/responses. It's wonderful 2 c Christians who r willing 2 go the extra mile in giving testimony of Jesus the Saviour with the dedication u r showing!!! I pray more + more Christians will do the same...God Bless U Mightily...ur brother in Jesus...
@ahmedbalabl gotta go now but feel free to post your response, and I will get back to you latter. Until then, peace be with you, and may the Lord open your eyes to the truth.
@ahmedbalabl First of all, the koran is one sole authors account of which there is no one to support the claims therein besides the self-proclaimed prophet mohommad. Secondly, The Bible predates both islam and mohammad by some 575+ years. And lastly, it just tickles me pink how the muslim can call Jesus a prophet and yet dismiss him as both the Son of God and God in the flesh when Jesus himself openly proclaimed that he was and is both of the aforementioned.
(34) 34 - Such (was) Jesus the son Of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
(35) 35 - It is not befitting To (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to him! when he determines a matter, He only says To it, be, and it is.
(36) 36 - Verily God is my Lord And your Lord: him therefore serve ye: this is a way that is straight.
26 - So eat and drink And cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see Any man, say, I have Vowed a fast to (God) Most Gracious, and this day Will I enter into no talk With any human being
(27) 27 - At length she brought The (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). they said: O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!
(28) 28 - O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not A man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!
23 - And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk Of a palm tree: She cried (in her anguish): Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!
(24) 24 - But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm tree): grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;
(25) 25 - And shake towards thyself The trunk of the palm tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
(20) 20 - She said: how shall I Have a son, seeing that non man has touched me and I am not unchaste?
(21) 21 - He said: So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, That is easy for Me: and (we wish) to appoint him as a sign unto men and a Mercy from Us: It is a matter (so) decreed.
(22) 22 - So she conceived him, And she retired with him to a remote place.
Jesus even according to the corrupted bible fell on his face and worshipped Allaah as Muslims do...why dont you worship Allaah as well, anyone who dies worshiping Jesus will never escape hellfire. This is polytheism because Jesus was a prophet, a man not divine in anyway. He will free himself from all who worship him and when he returns he will destroy the cross!
The Inspired Word of God the Bible CANNOT lead anyone 2 Islam. The koran is not of God+there4 God doesn't lead anyone 2 a counterfeit 2 His Word. The Bible gives ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT 2 the koran. Jesus makes it clear that He was 2 die 4 all sinners+after His burial He would b raised 2 life again. He is the only way 4 mankind 2 b reconciled back 2 the Father. Satan isn the real author of the counterfeit koran. Satan wants 2 blind ppl 2 the truth of Salvation through Jesus Christ. REPENT+BELIEVE!
Nope..........It can be done, but it shouldn't there is a difference. Islam is a way of life for ALL people in ALL times and ALL nations. Then you will have find other things e.g. slaves. The main thing is you use it as a guide and see what is best at that time. For each decision there are a hundred options even in Islam. It is not always do this and done, but look at what is best in the good way.
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 No, that is wrong. You and I both know that the Qu'ran and hadiths instruct Muslims to emulate Muhammad. He is universally held up as the finest character and his behaviour should be imitated. He had sex with a child and because of this, the systematic marriage of little girls to old men has gone on for centuries in Arabian countries and will likely not stop. Allah in his wisdom would have known that this would happen but decided to give no 'revelation' preventing it.
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 Nothing more to add?
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
@Daveyboyroy Hahhaha, sorry I wasn’t at my machine that long. I do have things to add, yes emulate his ways but you should be acting in accordance to the teachings of the four imams. Whichever sect you follow, there are up to 72 sects of Muslims not unlike that of Christians and other faiths. I have double checked this, a number of my family members are scholars in this regard, you do need to check the society that you reside in and then apply the teachings as such.
TheAminaB24 5 days ago
@Daveyboyroy P.S I have an odd feeling that I’m repeating myself. The majority of people will not understand the exact teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH); this is why it is very important to follow an imam which enables understanding to a greater extent. Again if you fall in with the wrong people misunderstanding can lead to bad practices, as humans we were given the ability to engage our brains not looking at history, causes and consequences makes you a sheep.
TheAminaB24 5 days ago
@Daveyboyroy P.P.S Islam promotes the seeker of knowledge, so you need to find out information before you follow. Because I feel like I am going around in circles I think it may be best to refrain from commenting further. It was an ‘enlightening’ discussion though, thank you for all your input.
TheAminaB24 5 days ago
@TheAminaB24 You haven't listened to the point I put forward. My point was regarding Muhammad's behaviour, not that of his followers. He had sex with a child and as I pointed out, the argument that his behaviour was 'of the time' is invalid, for the reason I stated.
Daveyboyroy 4 days ago
"There is a huge battle going on in these days of falling away from the faith. The authority and truth of God's inerrant, perfect words and the doctrines of grace are under direct attack. Only in the King James Bible are all of God's perfect words of truth found today." - Will Kinney
177Jeremiah7 2 weeks ago
Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. - Jeremiah 6:16
For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe. - 1 Thessalonians 1:23
177Jeremiah7 2 weeks ago
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. - Psalm 12:6-7
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. - Proverbs 30:5-6
177Jeremiah7 2 weeks ago
a other brainwashed poor bastard switching magical explaination because he cant bare to not have answer
pathetic
lapmarty 1 month ago
So a man who preached a doctrine of love, compassion and forgiveness led you to a man who had sex with a child, beheaded 700 men and boys in one day because of the fault of their tribal elders, tortured a man to find his tribe's treasure and had 80 or so people (including women) murdered in a 10 year period JUST for criticising him. Fair play. Jog on you tosser.
Daveyboyroy 1 month ago
@Daveyboyroy
That sounds like a horrible horrible man...I wonder who that is?
BerryColor 1 month ago
@BerryColor Yeah, horrible ey? What a bastard.
Daveyboyroy 1 month ago
@Daveyboyroy Still...I'm trying to figure out how can someone be so awful...it would really help me to tell me that man's name and where can I find him?
BerryColor 1 month ago
@BerryColor Oh you won't find him, he's been dead 1400 years.
Daveyboyroy 1 month ago
@Daveyboyroy you obviously fell into islamophobia with all of the lies against Prophet Muhammad. You actually think true Muslims believe in that? If you did a disortation on Islam at the highest school of learning, Harvard or higher, you would fail miserably. Aisha was about 19 when she married the Prophet, that is a fact. Muhammad was no murderer.
ENCharlem 2 weeks ago
@ENCharlem I'm an Islamorealist, not an Islamophobe. Phobias are irrational fears. My distrust of Islam is entirely rational because of what is found in the Qu'ran and only the most trusted and reliable hadiths. The many narrations in Bukhari stating that she was 9 at consummation and the fact that Muhammad's example of sex with a child has been systematically emulated in the Arab world proves to me that she was indeed a child. As for murder, to deny he had people assassinated is just silly.
Daveyboyroy 2 weeks ago
@Daveyboyroy If this is correct then your way of living was also build on corruption you see the western world until a few centuries ago believed in 'child' marriages. But what depicts a woman as a child? Society? Currently’ women’ are engaging in sex at the 'tender' age of 11 and falling pregnant and having abortions they are on drugs and alcohol and people are barely blinking an eye.
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 My way of living is built on personal morals and ethics. What went on centuries ago is irrelevant because 'the West' has moved on. Thanks to the enlightenment and other such movements, we now have a greater respect for humanity as a whole and we realise where our ancestors went wrong. Islam, on the other hand is still stuck with the terrible example of a false prophet having sex with a child and as Muslims are commanded to emulate him, they will never move on like 'the West' has.
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
Hey Daveyboyroy, thank you for your response. Maybe, but what exactly is moving on? Free consumption of drugs? Increase in STDs? Increase in alcohol poisening? Islam is an way of life. Like I said there will always be idiots that are too cowardly or ignorant to follow the laws correctly. Plus it is not irrelevant because it was again 1400years ago. If anything the West has become worse then before men and women now, lie down and make a baby but do not stand up to be a parent.
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 I agree with you 100% like I said, there are things going wrong but this is just a diversion. The issue we are dealing with is Muhammad having sex with a 9 year old girl when he was 54. Let's stay on topic.
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
@Daveyboyroy Hmmmmm................it is on topic. 'Yeah so?' This practice was right for that time. It isn't now, so men shouldn't be doing it. Better??
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@Daveyboyroy either way you look at it, it's a messed up world only because of the people though. If you want to be right you have to do right. If you have something good, then we all only need to look a little deeper then we might find the answers that are right. But good personal morals and ethics is a good place to start.
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 I do agree with you however that societies are failing children in not preparing them properly for their movement into adulthood. As for what constitutes a woman, it isn't as most Muslims tell me which is that as soon as a girl begins menstruating, she is ready for sex. This is totally wrong. Puberty is a process through which young people pass and it is only at the END of which that a girl is both physically and emotionally ready for sex.
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
P.S Aisha(RA) was actually married at 6 and the marriage was consummated at 9, when she had reached puberty. She never bore him a child. And she was protected against accusations regarding adultery by God and her husband. If society can dictate what a person can think then it has way too much control. You have to look at the way of the world is now and apply the knowledge in a responsible fashion.
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 I refer you to my previous comment. A girl is in no way ready to have sex at age NINE, particularly with a 54 year old man. Puberty is a process, at the END of which a girl is ready for sex - she isn't ready just because she has reached her first menses. That's false. Of course you want to defend your prophet, but any defence doesn't counter the truth which is that she was playing with dolls and was a little child. No 9 year old should be sleeping with a 54 year old, period.
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
P.P.S These people that you talk of are using Islam as a shield. If the religion is not for you fine, please don't hate. But I would recommend you look into it and not pick and choose ideas propagated by the media it’s really bad on the brain. :-)
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 Look into it? What do you think I have been doing? I haven't listened to the media at all. With the particular matter of Aisha, I've been reading Bukhari, Abu Dawud and Muslim.
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
@Daveyboyroy Chill, I know. Yes I am defending him and I will. For that time this was correct. For this time it is not, I would gladly stand up against men doing this now. Because it is wrong.
Refer to where I said about looking at the world now and applying the knowledge. Personally I would castrate any man doing this 'now'. E.g. Pregnancy is OK out of wedlock now but it wasn't a few years back, fornication is OK but few years back it wasn't. - just recent examples to think on.
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@TheAminaB24 The 'everyone was doing it back then so it's ok' excuse would work for every man in 7th century Arabia, except one, Muhammad. Muhammad claimed to be receiving 'revelations' including specific instructions on how to behave eg eating, drinking, praying etc. These commands were not JUST for those people at that time, they were for ALL people of ALL times, including you and me today. So if it was seen to be ok by Allah then, then we know Allah thinks it's ok now. Which it isn't.
Daveyboyroy 1 week ago
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logic for the blasphemous heathen:1) Archeological evidence supporting the exsistance of the apostles of Christ has been found. 2) These apostles (who were eyewitnesses to Christs' life, death, resurrection and acsention) were executed for their testimony of the gospel of Christ during the 1st century for the exception of John who was boiled in oil and survived and later died of natural causes. Why and how could or would anyone subject themselves to such circumstances if it were not true?
ops4christ 2 months ago
And I can say with absolute confidence and clarity that the King James Holy Bible is the 100% pure, perfect, inerrant and infallible word of God.
177Jeremiah7 2 months ago
@177Jeremiah7 there are many discrepancies and errors in the King James Bible, go study Biblical history and textual criticism. Even Christian Bible scholars admit there are contradictions and errors but claim that it is perfected by faith because it is an issue of faith. Don't be naive.
ENCharlem 2 weeks ago
@ENCharlem Sir, I am not being naive. I have studied this issue for quite a while now and more and more am I convinced that the King James Holy Bible is God's perfect and pure word. Science is now beginning to catch up with the King James Bible, there are no errors in the text of the KJB. And by the way, the more I study the Bible Version Issue, the more convinced I am that the King James Bible is the inerrant and 100% true word of God. (Continued)...
177Jeremiah7 2 weeks ago
@ENCharlem Now, there are contradictions and errors in the new versions. In modern versions like the NIV, ESV, NASB, NLT, Message, LB, HCSB, TNIV, RSV, NRSV, and many more, there are errors and heresies that can be found. But not one error or contradiction has ever been found in the King James Bible. Study the issue sir, and realize that in over 400 years, the text of the King James Bible and also its underlying Greek and Hebrew text has not changed at all.
177Jeremiah7 2 weeks ago
If a person will study the Bible Version Issue; and do it diligently, then he/she will start to see that the Inerrancy of the Bible is being attacked like never before, with a new translation being rolled out every six months and claiming to be more accurate to the "original." One with a sane mind can only wonder when will the confusion end? Thankfully the Holy Ghost opened my eyes to this issue and to the truth about the Bible Version Issue.
177Jeremiah7 2 months ago
Where does joshua get the idea from that there are 100s of 1000s of manuscripts and that none are alike? We dont have 100s of 1000s of manuscripts. We only have about 30000 manuscripts and none of them are IDENTICAL. They are ALL ALIKE. There is a big difference between being ALIKE and being IDENTICAL. The former means that there are differences but they basically say the same thing, the latter means there's not an iota of difference. Even the Quran has manuscripts that arent identical.
Nakdimon316 3 months ago
@Nakdimon316 The Quran in its native language is always identical and has been for over a 1000years which is the beginning of Islam. People don't be mean it isn't becoming. Listen or go away.
TheAminaB24 1 month ago
@TheAminaB24 no the Quran is not identical. Go study your own sources. Just because your imams dont fill you in on the juicy details doesnt mean that there arent any variants. It may be SIMILAR, but not IDENTICAL. For example: Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 57, Number 105 talks about how Surah 92:1 was changed. In the days of Muhammad it used to read "By the male an the female", yet your Quran now reads "By HIM WHO CREATED the male and the female". This is ONE of the MAY variants in your Quran.
Nakdimon316 3 weeks ago
@Nakdimon316 My apologies clarification; in Arabic (without all the dots and so on) it is unchanged. Imam Abu Hanifa is the Imam I follow, does not mean I stay ignorant. I do my best to see what the other Imams say about whatever I may be looking at. Are you looking at translations? If so then yes interpretations may differ. One of the miracles of Islam is that the Qur'an in its original text is unchanged. Plus mind your tongue and don't be nasty, this is a discussion after all.
TheAminaB24 1 week ago
@Nakdimon316 the Quran has one text and it is in Turkey, unchanged and perfect.
ENCharlem 2 weeks ago
They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.
It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.
Quran
Surat At-Tawbah
flowr764 3 months ago
@smartalvy Let's ask Chuck Testa. (internet meme)
Poodleinacan 3 months ago
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Joshua, Answer me this.
You are reading a book.
In this book you see that word Quran is mentioned.
This book also says that Quran is revelation.
How do you know from your book that book that you read is Quran that is mentioned in book that you read?
smartalvy 4 months ago
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So if it is grammatically impossible to translate from Aramaic or Hebrew into Greek, how is it possible that the Qur’an translate from Greek into Arabic? Because this would undoubtedly change the name Yeshua’ into a unrecognisable form.
mantisfist101 4 months ago
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mantisfist101 4 months ago
Also the Ayin/Ayn is on the opposite end of 'Isa. So the Qur'an has produced more grammatical errors than the ones already existing through translating from either Latin or Greek.
Conclusion. The Arabic name for Jesus has been formed through various stages of translation. Firstly from Aramaic or Hebrew, then into Latin or Greek, and finally back into Arabic, hence his name is translitered incorrectly from the Arabic as 'Isa. Honour his true name of Yeshua or Yusha.
mantisfist101 4 months ago
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@mantisfist101
Produce your proof if you are truthful.
helsharidy123 3 months ago
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mantisfist101 4 months ago
In order for the Bible to lead you to Islam, you just have to read a few words that sound like works for Salvation, and ignore all the others that point to Jesus dying on the cross FOR Salvation. Also, you need to NOT believe the Bible is to be rightly divided through dispensations.
RammatRamzi 4 months ago
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It is ironic that he has chosen the name Yusha, the true name for Jesus in Arabic, yet he does not realise the name 'Isa in the Qur'an is wrong. Type in Jesus or Joshua in any Aramaic Lexicon and Concordance, and the name YeSHuOE is the result every time.
mantisfist101 5 months ago
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Yeshua’ in Aramaic = Yudh + Shin + Waw + Ayin (’),
Yusha’ in Arabic = Ya + Shīn + Waw + Ayn (’)
'Isa in Arabic = Ayn (') + Aa + Ee +Sa.
So where does 'Isa come from?
Iēsous in Greek = Ee + Ay + Sous
Iēsus in Latin = Ee + Ay + Sus
So Allah has chosen the name 'Isa and produced grammatical errors by translating it from Latin and Greek.
mantisfist101 5 months ago
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For example in the name Yeshua’, which are the letters, Yod + Shin + Waw + Ayin (’), the Yod becomes Ye, but as the Greek has no consonant y, it is replaced by pairing together the Greek letters I + ē (iota + eta), and is vocalised as the ee-ay.
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mantisfist101 5 months ago
what is his name ?
d4oud7 5 months ago
his name is Yusha Evans btw i have him on my msn he is a really nice guy
MiIouda 5 months ago
@MiIouda Mashallah, hes a very inspirational character
d4oud7 5 months ago
@MiIouda plz send me his msn.. i have to talk to him
nonnah9 5 months ago
Islam is THE Religion. None other than Islam dare to claim the truth fullness. Allah claimed his the creator of all things. Any other dare to make such a claim? No one!!. Why must choose the truth? because we are the most brainy creatures Allah has created . Except we hate of being brainy!!.
hassanpendek 5 months ago
Never say Jesus was son of god he a prophet ok THERE DUN STORY IS DUNN HE A MESSANGERR OK AND MASALLAH DA VIDEOO (:
lily102100 7 months ago
@Ole12121 Jesus did not die. His body died, but since He is considered a God , the Spirit did not die. That's why He was resurrected. And then He went back to His kingdom. I did not say that Jesus was God because as I said all this organized religion is fairy tales. Jesus was simply a copy of another religion (Mithraism). All these organized religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc) are nothing but fairy tales!
AndyMKordo 7 months ago
@Ole12121 God can do anything He wants. If He wants to come to the earth by birth, that's what He will do. I was only saying that Jesus is a copy of the pagan gods.
AndyMKordo 7 months ago
Jesus said HE was the final one. Islam means submission to the revised religion of Muhammad. Thru the ages many have claimed to have the only true message or to have had angels visit them. Before Jesus came, there had been many claiming to be the prophesied Christ. Some today claim Jesus was not the Christ but THEY are! The challenge thru time has been to examine & test someone's claims.
A true apostle MUST have signs, miracles and wonders as proof God is with them.(1 Cor.12:12)
fearworshipGod 7 months ago
@fearworshipGod If you say that a true apostle/prophet must have signs, miracles etc, can you show me the signs that accompanied the old prophets, the prophets of the Old testament? Also read the old testament to see what the Old testament says about the Messiah, and you'll see that Jesus is not a true son/prophet of God, so the Jews were right not to accept him. It also says in the Old testament that you do not have to believe in the Messiah to be saved. Read it please not just the NT.
AndyMKordo 7 months ago
@AndyMKordo -I said an apostle must have these signs. An apostle is not the same position as a prophet. Some of the OT prophets did have signs, like Abraham praying for Abimelech's wife, Elijah and Elisha's miracles, etc. The Old testament is exactly that-the old testament. The Messiah had not yet been sent to bring in the new covenant (new testament).
fearworshipGod 7 months ago
@fearworshipGod What link has the apostle with the prophet? You were talking about Jesus and prophets and then suddenly you said sth about apostles. Jesus is a copy of multiple pagan gods: Mithra, Osiris. The God Mithra was born in December 25, same time when Christmas is celebrated! And the followers of the god Mithra celebrated Eucharist with bread and wine, like Christians, and Mithra had 12 disciples (like Jesus). Even if a book says sth that does not mean it's the truth.
AndyMKordo 7 months ago
There is a Heaven, and mohammad cannot get you there. There is a Hell and mohammad cannot save you from it because he is dead. Turn away from this cult and come to Christ, the Son of the One True Living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, of which "allah" is NOT. Stop being beguiled buy these human philosiphers who preach soul-damning doctrine, and receive the salvation that God has planned for you before the foundation of the world was laid.
ops4christ 7 months ago
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If Jesus is God why would he worship God ????
SarayeOmid1 7 months ago
Islam es la verdad. El Coran es la verdad. Jesus es el mensajero de Alah. Mohamad es el ultimo mensajero de Alah
TheMrpalid 7 months ago
@TheMrpalid ???
ops4christ 7 months ago
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Quran: Lo! Those who disbelieve among the people of Scripture and idilaters will abide in the Fire Hell.They are worst of created beings,And Lo! Those who believe and do good works are the best of created beings.Their reaward is with their Lord;Garden of Eden underneath with river flow,wherein the dwell forever.Allah is pleased with them and they are please with Him.This is(In store) for him who fears his Lord,=
I bear witness there Is Only One God and Muhammad PBUH is the Last Prophet
mirzanajib 8 months ago
@ops4christ None of the Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah say that God will procreate a son. Read your Bible. The messiah is the "anointed one."
ENCharlem 8 months ago
@ENCharlem Isa:9:6: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jer:23:5: "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth." It would appear that you are the one who needs to read more.
ops4christ 8 months ago
@ENCharlem Mic:5:2: "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." Zec:9:9: "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass."
ops4christ 8 months ago
watch?v=fgTsf2MVXAo&feature=related Yasin by dzulkarnain hamzah
MrOnizukax 9 months ago
(1) (All) praise is due to Allah, Who revealed the Book to His servant and did not make in it any crookedness.(2) Rightly directing, that he might give warning of severe punishment from Him and give good news to the believers who do good that they shall have a goodly reward,(3) Staying in it for ever;(4) And warn those who say: Allah has taken a son.(5) They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers; a grievous word it is that comes out of their mouths; they speak nothing but a lie.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl The koran is Mohammad's word. It has nothing of God within it. Even jesus has been emasculated by Mohammad who has had himself elevated 2 his god. God's Word refutes the koran which calls God's Word a lie by denying Jesus died 4 the sins of the world + the Son of God. Muslims r sadly both blind + wilfully ignorant of God's Word. 1 SAVIOUR WHO IS JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD WHO IS GOD IN THE FLESH...Mohammad is DEAD. JESUS IS RISEN!!!
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
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(9) Surely this Quran guides to that which is most upright and gives good news to the believers who do good that they shall have a great reward.
(10) And that (as for) those who do not believe in the hereafter, We have prepared for them a painful chastisement.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
(17) He sends down water from the cloud, then watercourses flow (with water) according to their measure, and the torrent bears along the swelling foam, and from what they melt in the fire for the sake of making ornaments or apparatus arises a scum like it; thus does Allah compare truth and falsehood; then as for the scum, it passes away as a worthless thing; and as for that which profits the people, it tarries in the earth; thus does Allah set forth parables.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
16) Say: Who is the Lord of the heavens and the earth?-- Say: Allah. Say: Do you take then besides Him guardians who do not control any profit or harm for themselves? Say: Are the blind and the seeing alike? Or can the darkness and the light be equal? Or have they set up with Allah associates who have created creation like His, so that what is created became confused to them? Say: Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Supreme.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
(14) To Him is due the true prayer; and those whom they pray to besides Allah give them no answer, but (they are) like one who stretches forth his two hands towards water that it may reach his mouth, but it will not reach it; and the prayer of the unbelievers is only in error.
(15) And whoever is in the heavens and the earth makes obeisance to Allah only, willingly and unwillingly, and their shadows too at morn and eve.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
(12) He it is Who shows you the lightning causing fear and hope and (Who) brings up the heavy cloud.
(13) And the thunder declares His glory with His praise, and the angels too for awe of Him; and He sends the thunderbolts and smites with them whom He pleases, yet they dispute concerning Allah, and He is mighty in prowess.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
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Jesus was called "the Messiah" by Allah in the Qur'an. And Jesus was even born of a virgin (Surah 3:45-57)! Yet Muhammad who had 12 wives, 2 concubines, and participated in many attacks on innocent caravans and villages, and insisted on 20% of all the booty from these raids -- is supposed to be the greatest of the prophets.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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The Qur'an tells us that Jesus Christ did not atone for anyone's sins, although he was himself sinless (Surah 3:46) and is one of those who are near to God (Surah 3:45). Positively, the Qur'an says that Jesus Christ performed miracles (Surah 3:49; 5:110) and was the Messiah
ops4christ 9 months ago
HOLY QURAAN :
(39) 39 - (Iblis) said: O my Lord because thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair seeming to them on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong,
(40) 40 - Except thy servants among them, sincere and purified (by thy grace).
(41) 41 - (God) said: This (way of my sincere servants) is indeed a way that leads straight to me.
(42) 42 - For over my servants no authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong and follow thee.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ops4christ (1) SURA 109: KAFIRUN 1 - Say: O ye that reject Faith!
(2) 2 - I worship not that which ye worship,
(3) 3 - Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
(4) 4 - And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
(5) 5 - Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
(6) 6 - To you be your Way, and to me mine
THE END .
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl So be it.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ >> only your good deeds will send you to heaven
" For those who do good in this world is good; and the home of the Hereafter is better. And how excellent is the home of the righteous "
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl Wrong again. Jesus said in John 14:6 " I am the way the truth and the life. Non one comes to the Father except through me." You can do good deeds until the cows come home and still lift your face up in hell. There is NO OTHER WAY TO HEAVEN EXCEPT THROUGH CHRIST. And that goes for you AND Oprah.
And there are far too many more scriptures that say so to not get this one right.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmedbalab I was just thinking. In light of what I said about my ancestors being slaves and all; just who were they singing and praying to while they were out in the fields working? Was it allah? Nope. History proves that they were singing and praying to the God of the Bible, not the allah. And in return they were rewarded freedom out of slavery. When the civil rights movement took place; was it allah they prayed to? Nope. It was the God of the Bible. What has allah done for any one?
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christknow your talking about my sins and that am going to hell , and your sins is sendig you to heaven because you beleive in jesus !! .. is christianty the relegion of "make sins as you like at the end your going to heaven because its already forgiven"
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl Close, but not quite. Christians are NOT perfect people, we are people who have been saved by grace given to us through Christ. This is NOT a religion that I and other christians have but a relationship with Christ. And as we get closer to Him, our desire to be more like Him grows. Jesus laid the foundation on how we are to live our lives; loving others, helping the poor, and not submitting to sin. And this is the key, NOT submitting to sin because of your love for the Lord.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl Romans 6:1-2 says "What shall we say then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; so how can we live in it any longer?" Now I will tell you that if you can sin and not feel any remorse, you have a very serious problem and will be in danger of hells fire unless you repent, and come to Christ. when adam and eve sinned, humanity's fellowship with God took a nasty fall. Jesus restored that fellowship on the cross. So you see, He IS THE ONLY WAY.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl I will go as far as to get a little personal only because I feel the need in these circumstances. Before I came to Christ, all I lived for was to sin. Each entire day was dedicated to satisfying my fleshly desires. I learned the hard way on how sin can sabotage your life when you consistantly submit to it. When I came to Christ, I started living to please God; not my flesh. That is the difference between being saved and not being saved. The deciding factor of Heven or hell.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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@ahmedbalabl Nothing. Because allah does not exist. And I may be guilty of being a bit brash, but the facts are the facts. Name ONE thing allah ever did for any one. Name ONE miracle mohammad ever performed to prove himself the prophet he said that he was.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ Can I just clear something up. Allah (swt) is the God from Judaism that christianity takes it's roots from. Us living is a miracle from God. Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was our prophet and though we disagree we also agree on some points. You said Allah does not exist. Allah means the one God, so you don't believe in that. Just because christianity seems right to you doesn't make it true.
jusefbehit 9 months ago
@jusefbehit Wrong again. Remember, chistianity came over 575 years before islam and the quran. and had already been worshiping the one true living God of the old testament. The problem with both judaism and islam is thier refusal to acknowledge Christ as the Son of the living God. And the have refused even though the old testament has several prophets that have predicted the arrival of Christ, and I have already given them to you. You all just choose to not believe.
ops4christ 9 months ago
read how money time isaa sad in the bible i am sun of men not sun of god
023abdel 8 months ago
@023abdel MATTHEW 8:29. MATTHEW 26:63-66. MARK 3:11-12. LUKE 1:35. LUKE 8:28. JOHN 20:28-31. JOHN 1:49. JOHN 3:18. JOHN 10:36. JOHN 11:4. Make the effort 2 actually read God's Inspired Word the Bible rather than spouting off what u hear other ignorant ppl say!!! Jesus has many titles. Son of man + Son of God r only 2 of HUNDREDS of titles unique 2 the Son of God...1 SAVIOUR WHO IS JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD WHO IS GOD IN THE FLESH!!!
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
know your talking about my sins and that am going to hell , and your sins is sendig you to heaven because you beleive in jesus !! .. is christianty the relegion of "make sins as you like at the end your going to heaven because its already forgiven"
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ops4christ >>God-inspired authors ??!! who ?? i dont understand who have the authority to write in your holy bock ?
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl 2 PETER 1:20-21. 2 TIMOTHY 3:16-17...
The3in1trinity 9 months ago
Here is a very trustworthy saying. Those who denounce the Bible do not do so because it cotradicts itself (which it does'nt), but because it contradicts mans sinful lifestyle. The truth of the matter is the sinful nature of man would rather fornicate, lie, harbor hatred towards others, be drunkards and homosexuals, steal, murder, and commit adultry than to hold firm to the Bible and it's teachings which warns us against all of the aforementioned.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ Tell me how many copy of the bible you christians have , do u really beleive that the copy your reading is the words of jesus .
we muslims have one copy of the quraan all over the world and over decades, and god said in holy quraan : 'Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian' (سورة الحجر )
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
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ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl There are far too many biblical scriptures, writen by numerous God-inspired authors, in both the old and New testiment to not get this one right. And any account contrary to what the Bible says about the diety of Jesus, is a lie from the pits of hell meant only to deter you from excepting Christ who is the ONLY mediator between God and mankind.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl To deny that Jesus is God in the flesh, crucified for the atonement of sins then resurrected and ascended into Heaven, is to deney yourself Gods' love and mercy. your sins WILL remain and you WILL die in them and WILL be sent to hell on the day of judgement. And if you have any doubts, then you had better see
John 8: 23-24
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ "I AM HE"?
if Jesus was God himself and on the same time he is the son of God why did he lied and say his name is Jesus when you know that his name should be Yahweh?
Did God gave birth to himself, sent himself as the messenger and called himself as his own son? Why did the first thing he said was "I am the Messiah" instead of"I am God" . In the end he still says "I AM HE" wth?
Why is it so confusing?
ahmadaz96001 9 months ago
@ahmadaz96001 Look, If you do not believe, you do not believe. Iike I said, there are far too many scriptures, writen by numorous God inspired authors, in both the old testament and new to get this one wrong and I have posted just about all of them on this thread. Truth is, you have been so beguiled by the SELF PROCLAIMED prophet mohammad that you muslims cannot see the forest because of the trees.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ Pedophile??
Muhammad PBUH shows that you don't need to be 18 to marry others. 1400 years ago girls don't go to school or play the piano. There's nothing they do besides cook and play. Once they reach puberty, they marry. Puberty=sex=adulthood
In the United States, by the 1880s, most states set the age of consent at ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven.
You're from the States. Were your ancestors also a bunch of pedophiles? no right?
ahmadaz96001 9 months ago
@ahmadaz96001 First of all, I am African American. My acestors more than likely were slaves, but that is besides the point. Jesus, being fully man and fully God walked this earth for 33 years and did not marry ( not dismissing the privilidge of marriage) or commit one solitary sin. the avrarage person can't even reach age 5 without telling a lie to their parents. Mohammad certainly was no exception as he murderd, raped, stole and commited many more atrocities. Proof will follow this post.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ At the age of 20 Muhammad was hired by a wealthy woman named Khadija (or Khadeejah) to manage her late husband's caravan business. When Muhammad was 25 he married Khadija; six children were born to them, but only one survived to adulthood; his beloved daughter Fatima. While in the caravan business Muhammad happened to make many journeys to Syria and Palestine. During this time Muhammad became acquainted with both Jews and Christians.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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@ops4christ Later, the monk-like Muhammad would cause things to be written in the Koran about both Jewish and Christian history, which shows that Muhammad did not possess an intellect befitting a historian. It has also been thought that Muhammad could not read or write. In fact, the Qur'an says Muhammad was illiterate (Ummi) in Surah 7:157
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ This marriage to the much older Khadija, who was then 40 years old and who already had been married twice proved very fortunate to Muhammad. Muhammad suddenly became equal to the richest men in Mecca. While married to Khadija Muhammad did not marry any other wife. However, after she died, Muhammad would show no restraint in his self gratification for lust with multiple wives, slaves, captives, and even his own adoptive son Zaid's wife.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ 2 Chronicles 15:13 - All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death - murder
Exodus 21:7-11 - If the slave women does not please the man who bought her.. - "rape"
These passage from your holy book clearly shows Judaism and Christianity allowed killing and "rape"
Jesus was a Jew. He accepted the Old Testament as a book of God. He clearly condone the "killing" and "raping". HE ACCEPTED THE OLD TESTAMENT.
What made Jesus different from Muhammad?
ahmadaz96001 9 months ago
@ahmadaz96001 What makes Jesus different from mohammad is that; 1) mohommad did not give his life in order for us to receive salvation as Jesus did. 2) Jesus never killed or tought that you should kill any one as mohommad did both. 3) mohommad sinned in numorous ways but Jesus Never sinned once. 4) Jesus performed many miracals in to prove He was in fact who He said He was, mohammad did not perform not one and yet the muslim holds his teacings in more reverence than those of Christ. etc.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmadaz9600 Again, you have read ONE verse and have taken it's essence way out of context.
2 Chronicles15:13 was written in a time when just about every nation was in battle for the sake of territory. The Isrealites, on many occasions, found themselves in battle and at times became the subject of defeat at the hands of other nations. Where then, they would be forced into pagan idol worship by these other nations. Again, read the entire 15th chapter to understand just what you're reading.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ This is an example of killing in the Bible
2 Chronicles 15:13 - "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman".
And Muhammad never rape anyone. He only had sex with his slaves which is permitted even in the Holy Bible of yours. "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her...." Exodus 21:7-11
ahmadaz96001 9 months ago
@ahmadaz96001 The difference from the slaves that the Bible is referring to is that those slaves were to actually be bought, but mohommads slaves were obtained by way of violent butcheries and blood thirsty caravans. By which innocent women and children were harshly FORCED into slavery.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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Sounds a lot like rape to me.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ Slaves who were bought??
Deuteronomy 21:11: "if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife". - This is basically "rape" isn't it?
That verse simply says that you can have sex with the slaves you capture from war. There is no need to marry because no slave would want to marry their captor. There's no logic in that.
Those were verses from your Holy Book. I'm not judging, but that's the way everyone do things back then.
ahmadaz96001 9 months ago
@ahmadaz96001 You know I find it extraordinaryly amuzing how you can take bits and pieces of the Bible that suit you and yet dismiss other parts of it.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmadaz96001 And you are right about one thing; That is how they did things back THEN before Christ.
mohammad came almost 2000 years or so after that very scripture and over 500+ years AFTER Christ. And mohammads slaves were not captives of war, as this biblical scripture is speaking of. Muhammad led 27 military campaigns against innocent villages and caravans & planned 38 others. NOWHERE I MEAN NOWHERE in the Bible promotes the spilling of innocent blood. In fact the Bible warns against it
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ Maria al-Qibtiyya is the slave/concubine who was sent as a gift from Muqawqis, a Christian Byzantine official, to the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
Deuteronomy 13:13-14: If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act (worship of different god) has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.
ahmadaz96001 9 months ago
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@ahmadaz96001 And what of his six year old CHILD wife Aisha?
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ahmadaz96001 Gotta go. But same goes for today as yeserday. I'll get back to you.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ Muhammad used to color his hair red to hide his gray hair. He is said to have had a large hairy egg sized mole under his left shoulder. Not being able to find any prophecy of Muhammad's coming in the Bible - many foolish Arabs have tried to 'tie' this hairy mole into Isaiah 9, where it is written, "the government shall be upon his shoulder".
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ People used to ask Muhammad's favorite child bride Aisha how the Prophet lived at home. "Like an ordinary man," she answered. "He would sweep the house, stitch his own clothes, mend his own sandals; water the camels, milk the goats, help the servants at their work, and eat his meals with them; and he would go to fetch a thing we needed from the market." Aisha (only 6 when married) believed whatever Muhammad told her about his divine inspiration.
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ Muhammad posed as an apostle of God. Yet his life is filled with lustfulness (12 marriages and sex with a child, slaves and concubines), rapes, warfare, conquests, and unmerciful butcheries. The infinitely good, just and all holy God simply cannot tolerate anything in the least unjust or sinful.Muhammad led 27 military campaigns against innocent villages and caravans & planned 38 others “I am the prophet that laughs when killing my enemies.”(Hadith)
ops4christ 9 months ago
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@ahmadaz96001 So let me get this straight. Christ is not the Son of God because some pedifiliac, murderous, depraved minded, self proclaimed prophet who came over 575 years after the Christian Bible said so? I have read all about the history of mohammad and if you revere his "teacings", which are contrary to what God had already set in place 575+ before mohammads birth, then in hell will you lift up your eyes right along side your beloved false prophet for rejecting Christ. See John 3:16-18.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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@ops4christ 2 Chronicles15:13 is refering to a time in Isreal when reformation was taking place after the the isrealites had went astray and became subject to God's wrath. Try reading the entire chapter so that you may better understand just what it is you are reading. Secondly, let's keep the focus on Jesus vs. Mohammad in respects of whos account of the diety of Christ is most cedible. I have posted a number of mohammads exploits. You do the math.
ops4christ 9 months ago
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ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ 1 John 5:9-11 "We except man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. Anyone who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar becuse he has not believed the tesimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony; God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son."
ops4christ 9 months ago
@ops4christ PRAISE THE LORD!!! It's been wonderful just reading ur comments/responses. It's wonderful 2 c Christians who r willing 2 go the extra mile in giving testimony of Jesus the Saviour with the dedication u r showing!!! I pray more + more Christians will do the same...God Bless U Mightily...ur brother in Jesus...
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
@ahmedbalabl gotta go now but feel free to post your response, and I will get back to you latter. Until then, peace be with you, and may the Lord open your eyes to the truth.
ops4christ 9 months ago
READ FROM (16) TO (38) ...
(1) SURA 112: IKHLAS 1 - Say: He is God, the One and Only;
(2) 2 - God, the Eternal, Absolute;
(3) 3 - He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
(4) 4 - And there is none like unto Him
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
@ahmedbalabl First of all, the koran is one sole authors account of which there is no one to support the claims therein besides the self-proclaimed prophet mohommad. Secondly, The Bible predates both islam and mohammad by some 575+ years. And lastly, it just tickles me pink how the muslim can call Jesus a prophet and yet dismiss him as both the Son of God and God in the flesh when Jesus himself openly proclaimed that he was and is both of the aforementioned.
ops4christ 9 months ago
(37) 37 - But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the unbelievers because Of the (coming) Judgment Of a momentous Day!
(38) 38 - How plainly will they see And bear, the day that they will appear before us! but the unjust to day Are in error manifest!
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
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(34) 34 - Such (was) Jesus the son Of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
(35) 35 - It is not befitting To (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to him! when he determines a matter, He only says To it, be, and it is.
(36) 36 - Verily God is my Lord And your Lord: him therefore serve ye: this is a way that is straight.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
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(30) 30 - He said: I am indeed A servant of God: He hath given me revelation and made me A prophet;
(31) 31 - And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, And hath enjoined on me prayer and Charity as long As I live;
(32) 32 - (He) hath made me kind To my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;
(33) 33 - So peace is on me The day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
26 - So eat and drink And cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see Any man, say, I have Vowed a fast to (God) Most Gracious, and this day Will I enter into no talk With any human being
(27) 27 - At length she brought The (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). they said: O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!
(28) 28 - O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not A man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
23 - And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk Of a palm tree: She cried (in her anguish): Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!
(24) 24 - But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm tree): grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;
(25) 25 - And shake towards thyself The trunk of the palm tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
(20) 20 - She said: how shall I Have a son, seeing that non man has touched me and I am not unchaste?
(21) 21 - He said: So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, That is easy for Me: and (we wish) to appoint him as a sign unto men and a Mercy from Us: It is a matter (so) decreed.
(22) 22 - So she conceived him, And she retired with him to a remote place.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
16) 16 - relate in the Book (The story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family To a place in the east.
(17) 17 - She placed a screen (To screen herself) from them; then we sent to her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
(18) 18 - She said: I seek refuge from thee to (God) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear God.
(19) 19 - He said: Nay, I am only A messenger from thy Lord, (To announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
ahmedbalabl 9 months ago
Jesus even according to the corrupted bible fell on his face and worshipped Allaah as Muslims do...why dont you worship Allaah as well, anyone who dies worshiping Jesus will never escape hellfire. This is polytheism because Jesus was a prophet, a man not divine in anyway. He will free himself from all who worship him and when he returns he will destroy the cross!
SalafiJustice 9 months ago
The Inspired Word of God the Bible CANNOT lead anyone 2 Islam. The koran is not of God+there4 God doesn't lead anyone 2 a counterfeit 2 His Word. The Bible gives ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT 2 the koran. Jesus makes it clear that He was 2 die 4 all sinners+after His burial He would b raised 2 life again. He is the only way 4 mankind 2 b reconciled back 2 the Father. Satan isn the real author of the counterfeit koran. Satan wants 2 blind ppl 2 the truth of Salvation through Jesus Christ. REPENT+BELIEVE!
The3in1trinity 9 months ago
Follow me @kidkhaliyl for Islamic reminders inshallah
mrallboutit1 9 months ago