Vietnam Memorial Wall (DC) Defaced Sept 7-8, 2007: Part 1

[koolwalla]

put down the camera and FUCKING CLEAN IT UP!

that is, if it really upsets you... i know.. whining accomplishes so much more than action.. right?

[Toektiger]

Mostly it was some one from code pink who did this. They hate veterans

[JimmyFormerMarine]

@ctenar1970 - You are wrong. They died for the cause of freedom.

[ctenar1970]

@JimmyFormerMarine The freedom to vote their leaders of Vietnamese was prevented by those soldiers

[JimmyFormerMarine]

@ctenar1970 You're an idiot.

[gary52h]

You see we are baby killers and mothers rapers fuck you all. Thank-you U.S.A.

[JimmyFormerMarine]

How can anyone show disrespect for men who died in the service of our country? Were they taught this in school? Did they learn this from their parents, friends or watching tv? I don't understand it.

[girlgarde]

I agree!

How could anyone disrespect the dead like this especially ones who've given their lives for their country?

This is low, Jane Fonda type low!

Shows how far some people are willing to go to express their political beliefs.

The vandals probably regard those dead soldiers as murdering scum worthy of scorn and disrespect. They fail to realize that those men died defending America's freedom from those who would destroy it. It's not their fault that their leaders screwed the war up.

[ctenar1970]

@girlgarde Threatened babies,women.olds in My Lai your freedom ?

[ctenar1970]

@JimmyFormerMarine they died for nothing

[ELTIGRESECURITY]

So sad. I am saddened and disgusted.

[SodiumCyanide]

Name 'em and hang 'em

[cracklingvoice]

I am not a Vietnam Veteran ... but I've known a good number. Soldiers, Sailors, Marines ... they are good men for the most part. I know they are outraged by this evil act, just as I am. It's not politics, it's a sense of respect and honor held for our battle buddies who died 'over there', wherever 'there' is. I have buried friends from OIF.

Whoever did this should be shot.

[1stlist]

i was at the Vietnam memorial, it is really powerful and very sad... how can anyone do this??

[RONHAT]

Not to forget, most of the soldiers represented here were drafted and gave their lives for you.

This is a memorial, not a podium.

No matter what your issues are, this is in honor of the dead.

Show some respect and write your congressman. Don't take it out on dead soldiers.

[PhilipDK5800]

Theres nothing wrong with being against war, and I can imagine that most people who have been to war; Is against war.

However, I do not aprove of anti-war protestors, and expecially not this!

This is a disgrace and an insult to those fine men who lost their lives, and their families!

[phantastickyle]

We need to bring back HUAC and ship the liberals back to Russia.

[zootedsuit]

disgusting that someone would deface The Wall!

[punkin7733]

Whoever defaced our Vietnam Memorial are people with no moral values, lack respect for anything and boarder on being a "Traitor." Find them and punish them severly because even in prison, those people have respect for their country and do not like those who are disrespectful. I am sure the prisoners will help those who defaced the monument, to find there way back to sanity and respect.

[nerkman]

You're an idiot. I don't even live in the USA. I don't have a clue who did this, and neither do you. 'Benefit of the doubt' speaks to your unwillingness to establish guilt through evidence and proof, not some imagined admission on my part that I know 'who did this'.

Ok, I'm done with this. This is going nowhere but up your ass, and I've had my fill already.

[nerkman]

I'd hate to think you're responsible for anything more than your own ass with that kind of reasoning.

Heaven help us if ever you have someone else's life in your hands.

[nerkman]

"Never said that and I dare you to quote me doing so."

I never said you did. Learn how to read before you accuse me or anyone else of claiming something. I prefaced with 'you seem' - that should be obvious enough.

Also, you're making a connection that hasn't been established here, which is essentially what I am up your nose about.

[nerkman]

Actually, no.

But if it gets you through your day, why the hell not, right?

[nerkman]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah...

You are a blanket statement, and expending any intellectual capital on you is an endeavour I would never recommend to anyone who has it.

[nerkman]

Actually, I learned hypocrisy from reading your posts, dipshit.

I am bored with you.  Why don't you go torch a hippy now, goon.

[lilbmore1]

By the way sorry for my spellin I type way to fast.

[lilbmore1]

nerkman U leftist peice of waste of space trash.Did I read onje of your comments that sid consevitives dont like to pay troops.U are idiot who is the party that didnt want to pay the troops in iraq.Oh thats right u left wing nut it was the dems/hippie party.U will never see a conservitive deface a memorial are not wnat to pay troops.Thats what the libs are for to piss on the ones that have balls to fight for this land.

[nerkman]

My uncle is a GW1 veteran. He's also a liberal. I have several cousins in the Canadian armed forces who served and still serve, and guess what? They're all liberals too, some even went on protests after they quit.

Ron Kovic, Oliver Stone you know, liberals. Both Vietnam vets.

I consider VA hospitals to be war monuments as well... living monuments, and every conservative administration, including Clinton's has defunded them. Thus leaving them to deteriorate.

[liberallosers]

"every conservative administration, including Clinton's has defunded them"

The FACT is that liberals call "defunding" the act of not increasing their funding as much as they think they should be.  The truth is that neither Clinton or Bush ever actually CUT their budgets, they actually INCREASED them. They just didn't increase them as much as certain groups claimed they needed to be.

That's a typical Michael Moore style deceitful ploy.

[punkin7733]

Sorry, but Clinton DID Cut our Military funding. My husband was working for the Military during Reagon, Clinton, and Bush's time and Clinton cut the Military spending so much that they didn't have enough money to keep our air craft in shape. I went to work for the Military last year and they still do not have enough funding to keep many things up and running, having to rebuild parts for the air craft and rebuild and rebuild and rebuilt and not enough money to buy parts for our air craft.

[Oriphym]

Clinton's liberal as fuck! He doesn't count as a conservative administration!

[1Lostrebel]

only in America would we have veterans living in the streets and a draft dodger in the white house. 

clinton

[lilbmore1]

Those anti war hippie liberal peices of fffing crap.Leave the vietnam memorial alone you no job bums.None of those fallen from vietnam has any thing to do with this war.On top all those dead nemas were probaly people drafted.Any ways u lossers this int the 60s uthere in no draft any more.U liberals should be proud that are country has men willing to join in die u bitches.

[nerkman]

Your assumption was that a 'leftist' group did this. As for not being a patriot, that's a pretty 'assumption' to make, since I'm not even American.

[nerkman]

Maybe you should stop and re-read what you've just wrote, because the main piece of the puzzle is missing - that pesky little thing called proof.

You're speaking like the identity of these perps are a given. It's not. I don't deny this memorial was vandalized. I don't deny this memorial is important as a national and as a person symbol to many Americans. But you seem hell-bent of denying any person who opposes war the benefit of the doubt.

Methinks you folks protest too much.

[nerkman]

Nope, because you're the ones making all of these assertions and chest-puffing exercises in baseless liberal-bashing.

Just as providing 'proof' is meaningless in the context of this comment thread, I don't ever expect you goons to come up with anything other than conjecture.

And I don't do Wal-Mart.

[fmdeap]

I saw some oil spots on the sidewalk...big deal.

[nerkman]

Actually it does matter that they were drafted.

And no, I'm too busy poking fun at you Sunday afternoon pretend-patriots to really make any excuses for any group whatsoever.

Now go down to Wal-Mart, I hear they have a special on burden of proof.

[liberallosers]

nerkman's contradiction:

1) 'Real patriots don't go around telling others that they're not.'

2) 'I'm too busy poking fun at you Sunday afternoon pretend-patriots'

[nerkman]

I don't claim to be a patriot either.

And yes, you're a bunch of pretend-patriots, obviously trying to overcompensate for other short-comings.

[liberallosers]

Where's your PROOF that anyone here is a "pretent-patriot"?

Caught again!

[nerkman]

Caught again at what? Getting into a flame-fest with a goon like you?

Oh well, guilty as charged.

[nerkman]

I don't need to prove shit to you, as you've certainly haven't taken upon yourself to back up one single assertion that you or any other chickenhawk made in this thread.

And no, it's NOT A FACT that liberals did this. You have NO PROOF whatsoever but your own conjecture.

[liberallosers]

I laugh at the "chickenhawk" meme. It implies that you cannot possibly support something unless you actively take part in it.

Using that flawed logic, you cannot possibly support arresting rapists and murderers or putting out house fires unless you join the police force or fire department.

Weak logic for weak minds.

[nerkman]

Right up there with the seemingly more pervasive meme that anti-war liberals hate America -- which for any sane person it seems like bullshit.

The difference is, of course, chickenhawks aren't about merely supporting something - they're advocating of putting people in harm's way for no particularly good reason, and making claims of glory in the process.

[nerkman]

I did? Where?

And while you're at it, why don't you prove once and for all your certitude that it's a 'liberal' that caused this act of vandalism.

[jamie490]

what can we expect when have let every kind of American haters in to this county.

We had many left over from the 60thes.

Only depraved people can do this kind of thing.

If it where there love ones on this wall I wonder if it would of made a differents.

when will this nation say we had enoth of this and stop flag burning and defacing property that honer are fallen man and woman.

God bless those that have gone befor so we have the freedom to allow this to happen.

Jim

[nerkman]

Holy fucking shit I am so sick and fucking tired of people who claim to be patriots wrapping themselves in the flag to justify their irrational and baseless hatred for other groups. The only pertinent fact is none of you who are advocating skinning these so-called 'code pink' liberals/commies/whatever don't really know who did this.

[nerkman]

Moreover, those of you who would beat up so-called 'liberals' and 'moonbats' really have no clue what liberty is about, nor does it show any indication for love of country. All it shows is that you're a bunch of assholes venting your spleen, never having to prove your mettle to anyone on this thread.

[liberallosers]

You of course prove your mettle by excusing a despicable act and ignoring that those who'd do this are the ones that really possess hatred for the people who died for freedom.

[nerkman]

They didn't die for freedom. Most of them were drafted, you moron. They were obligated to go or end up in jail.

And please, if you can of course, point to any post in this thread where I excused this act of vandalism.

[liberallosers]

Yeah...REAL patriots spit on returning soldiers, burn the flag, and desecrate memorials to the people who truly protect their right to do those things....right?

[nerkman]

You're a moron if you imagine that I've advocated or said anything of the sort, or excused or condoned this act in any way.

Real patriots don't go around telling others that they're not.

[califsucks]

This country is going to hell in a hand basket. My dad served in Vietnam and I did in DS1. Such a divided country full of moon bats.

[panicitsme]

This video just goes to show what most of us already know. The moonbats are sick, twisted freaks, but they are sad and pathetic as well.

[missinglink44]

I am saddened by this event. But more so I am saddened by the comments I see posted here on the same page that displays the wall that hold the names of my fallen brothers. Please save all of your caustice comments for some other venue. Thanks. Brother Link USMC 71-74

[hollywood7]

cleaning accident my arse. This is the type of thing communists/anarchists/socialis­ts/moonbats who hate their fellow Americans do.

[Chroniczero44]

hey man go fuck yourself

[1noen1]

There is no damage, the close up shows nothing. The park service say it was a cleaning accident. You are over reacting cry baby chicken hawks.

[liberallosers]

The Pasrk Service never said it was an accident...that was a myth spread by the COWARDLY leftist websites.

Check the NEWS...the Park Service is investigating this as a serious crime.

[higgme1ster]

John Wyatt your mendacious obfuscation defies reason and logic. The "Gathering of the Eagles" are true patriots! Leftist socialist democrat vermin were against the Viet Nam war and you are still against our military that put themselves, by choice as volunteers, in harms way to fight for our country. You or your rotten ilk did this.

[Kbarlow123]

I don't care that it was permanent or not permanent. The fact that someone would desecrate a monument dedicated to people who fought and died on behalf of our country offends me. It is not an accident involving that many panels.

[weld13]

wat kind of low-life piece of trash could do this:(

[TIDASIUM]

omg.....FKN COWARDS. why in the hell would you deface the wall. the wall that shows men and women who gave everything? my god my heart just ached when i saw this. do they know what it was?

[exweez]

code pinko and the rest of the anti american zealots are in town,must be just a coincidence?

[LibertyRocks]

The fact that this was oil spilled on the wall should be a clue as well (i.e War for Oil ring any bells???). It is a disgraceful act, and not one which will get them any sympathy for their "cause", They have showed their true nature. Hopefully the perpetrators will get cocky and brag about and be caught.

[Underwater7]

umm where is the evidence that this was done by liberals?

[LibertyRocks]

It kind of coincides with the threats over the last few months to deface these monuments. Also, many leftists mistakenly believe the current war is for oil, and oil is what was used.

[liberallosers]

They are too cowardly to admit to it but they've threatened to do it for years now.

Try some LOGIC.

[Wildgun2]

Tear this wall down my a.. You bunch of anti american jerks make me sick. there are over 57000 american Service member names on this wall and quite a few of them were my friends. And what never ceases to amaze me how the moon bats proudly deface memorials when NO ONE is around to stop them

[rosechols]

I'm a little to the right of Rush Limbaugh but from what I am hearing it was the cleaning crew and not vandalism

[tgslTakoma]

I walked (and videotaped) the entire length of The Wall yesterday.

I am NOT buying the story that it was "an accident."

A 463' accident?

Not bloody likely.

No evidence of anyone having tried to clean up the "accident" all weekend. No smears along where the "accident" sprayed The Wall.

A purposeful act of vandalism.

[liberallosers]

That's a FALSEHOOD spread by lefty website.

If you actually checked the news for yourself, you'd see that the Park service is investigating this incident as a serious crime.

[CavtrooperNam]

Hey Moonbat, how'd ya' like to meet me somewhere and we'll see what gets torn down you left wing scumbag

[nerkman]

That's very mature.

[TheMooniniteProject]

Tear down this wall!

[Redbella]

While this is a sick act, I do see no point in using it to spread hatred towards people. I know plenty of ex-military members who consider themselves to be liberals, and feel the same way as I do about this; saddened. This is not about liberals vs. conservatives. It is about some mindless person who has no regard for those who laid down their lives for ALL Americans. This pointless demonization and hatred of a group of Americans who may not agree the same as other Americans needs to end.

[RevDru]

Thank-you for having a level head about this. This hatred and division in our nation will do nothing but destroy this nation which I love. I, for one, do not want to see that.

[fantastique1]

Redbella:

This is not about "one mindless person." This is about a Communist supported organization called A.N.S.W.E.R. A group of antiAmerican, terrorist sympathising MORONS who have publically stated that they will desicrate the memorial. Looks like they finally suceeded

[liberallosers]

When the midless individuals group together as ANSWER and Code Pink, then we have every right to blame them.

[patsagainstrats]

Libs on drugs do strange things.

[googlevideodaddy]

what is it?

[googlevideodaddy]

is it oil or something?

[TheMooniniteProject]

LOL

[holdingcompany]

sad

[wendulajoy]

God's mercy will be the only thing the perpeTRAITOR of this affront has if we find him. We will step up our personal vigil over this memorial. john k VNVMC PA

[NWesterner]

tgslTakoma Thank you for this video.

No words can explain this outrage.

[rosechols]

If they really believed in what they were doing why did they have to sneak to do it. Looks like they don't have the courage of their convictions like the Hero's on the wall.

[StoogeWatcher]

These are the same leftists who hide their faces during "peace rallies."

[TheMooniniteProject]

New Orleans is still devastated, Iraq is in a civil war, and U.S. children are woefully lagging behind Asian pupils, and all you rightwingers are worrying about is an inkstain on a statue?

God help us all.

[usmcobra]

New Orleans will be devastated as long as there is money to be had, there is not civil war in Iraq, it's Al Qaeda, U.S. children are being taught by liberals, and it wasn't ink on a statue.

No one said it was ink but you, care to share how you know it was ink?

[softail005]

Maybe if you did something more worthwhile than shoot your big mouth off, you'd understand the importance of the sacrifices made by vets to this country and what that wall means to us. I'm sick of you jerks !

[woolybeth]

I guess if your brothers name was on that wall then you would understand the meaning of the wall. But I guess since it's not your Memorial you can't understand it. Yes N.O. is still devastated, Have you done anything to help!! Pick up a book and VOLUNTEER at a school, I guess that just doesnt fit into your little party, but that would be too much like right for you>>>

[TheMooniniteProject]

I work for the Red Cross. Anything else?

[StoogeWatcher]

Why do you libs always vandalize war memorials?

[hepanwiya]

What makes it a lib vs conservative issue? This is about something to honor our Veterans. As a native american I do not consider myself a liberal or conservative, and this is plain ugly to blame a group of people without any facts. As an American I feel it is my obligation to stay with facts and learn what I can regarding the desecration of the Wall; not take pot shots at others.

[Redbella]

Maya Lin, the architect of the Vietnam Memorial is a liberal and she's Chinese.

[darclick]

nerkmak

how much is Soros paying you, twink?

[nerkman]

About the same that the RNC is paying you. Sheesh.

Can you folks speak in anything else other than talking points?

[msdrking]

EAGLES UP!

[nerkman]

Oh fer chrissakes. It's not 'leftists' that did this. What makes any of you think a 'leftist' has anything to do with this?

For all we know, a righttard chickenhawk came along and did this so people can once again demonize 'leftists'.

Some people will believe anything, I guess.

[whynotuseme]

In your dreams idiot.

[nerkman]

I'm not the one with the anti-'leftist' hard-on. It's not the anti-war crowd that keeps cutting veterans' benefits and underfunding veterans' hospitals, or sending troops without the proper equipment to Iraq and Afghanistan.

But hey, keep believing it's the 'leftists' behind the defacing of the Vietnam memorial, especially since it's the 'leftists' that pushed for this memorial in the first place.

[DoTheDhue]

Sometime before March 17th, leftist said they were going to do something like this. It is the first people I wish to talk with.

[whynotuseme]

"I'm not the one with the anti-'leftist' hard-on."

No shit idiot, I am.

The commie leftists did not push for the memorial.The left are always pissing on it.

[nerkman]

Dude, could you be any more of a cartoon?

[StoogeWatcher]

Have you ever seen a conservative vandalize a war memorial?

[nerkman]

Yes I have, and conservatives are known for not wanting to pay for them too. Unless they can put advertising on it or keep using it to recruit more young persons to another stupid war.

[bun464]

You do a lot of talking JERKMAN but say very little. Typical KEYBOARD WARRIOR. My Vietnam Brothers and Sisters have something you can never take from us, no matter how many memorials you deface. That Sir is RESPECT. Something you never had and never will.

[nerkman]

I suppose we could get into a pissing match about anonymous posters claiming to be veterans and whatnot, but that would be entirely beside the point. The fact of the matter is this: I did not take, nor have I tried to take anything away from any veteran from any war, nor have I argued for any kind of memorial desecration. I can see the irrational need for many of you to lash out at easy targets, particularly when there is no proof, only triple heresay.

[nerkman]

I also see plenty of people on here posturing themselves as patriots and 'leftists' bashing as some kind of coffee break cackleklatch. But hey, go on and believe that I 'never had respect and never will' for veterans when you don't even have a clue from which perspective I come from. One thing that is certain though, it's the very probable participation of right-tards that are getting a kick out of veterans getting steamed up at anti-war protestors.

[syrvagabon]

Whoever said was no accident and that the message was "No Blood For Oil" was correct. This was also timed before General Petraeus' testimony to Congress.

May God punish those who defaced this sacred memorial.

[yoyoofloco]

Now we know who the left really is.

[strollinrebel]

Hope they catch the cowardly little freaks that did this.

[usmcobra]

Clearly their intended message was "no blood for oil".

This was no accident.

[joelelah1]

Absolute chickenshit leftist-scum tactics.

[Seanbo2203]

Those responsible need to be tarred and feathered.