@myralangerhas. Cobb actually got on both ends because of McCarthyism in the 50s. First he was named, then he refused to testify, so they hounded him and made him unemployable. So after 2 years he broke down and testified so they would let him work again. He named 20 names, all previously named. He got to go back to work and did some great films like "12 Angry Men," but he was looked down on by many for ever testifying. He found himself in the same boat as Kazan, who was booed by some when he g
I have watched this film about 10 times over the years,and when it comes to the part where Lee J Cobb tears up the picture of him and his son,tears roll down my face.Superb performance from a very underrated actor.
I saw this scene from watching the movie the first time today and it made me teary eye lol. It's just such a powerful scene, spectacular acting, and a masterpiece overall. Take notes, "Twilight" actors.
If you look up facts about this movie, it says it was made in just 17 hours. Yet it is better than most if not all films made today. You don't even know any of their names throughout the movie until the end. Then you only get a few. Story just makes you so involved.
A brilliant performance by Lee J. Cobb and the entire cast of "Twelve Angry Men." It's a very beautiful posting, and I had previously saved this film on my Favorites list, but the hands of YouTube snatched it from me. Considering the wonderful quality of these clips, I'm hoping that in the future, you might be able to fully download this extraordinary character study for all of us to enjoy. Thank you for sharing this with film fans worldwide...
What acting! Absolutely perfect in every way. This is what an American actor is. Yes, there are great actors in the British style and I love them with all my heart but Lee J. Cobb is the essence of what makes American actors great.
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, performances throughout the movie. They just do not make them like this anymore. What ashame. We're stuck with Jason vs Freddie. lol : )
@93MickyD1 Very true. You've made a very salient point. However, nowadays it seems the big block busters at the box office are not the wonderful films you've noted. 2 examples;"Ghandi" and "The Kings Speech." They each garnered best picture, but lost at the box office to lesser quality productions. This is almost certainly due to the fact that the movies earning more money had wider appeal, namely kids. It worries me these same kids will grow content only with mindless fluff. No intelect. stim.
My favorite movie of all time. Easily. No contest. That said, anyone who says that movies today aren't as good as they used to be is an ignorant asshole who can go fuck himself.
I understand that #3 is supposed to be the most unlikeable juror, but I just can't help feeling so sorry for him here; it seems like all the anguish he's ever experienced in his life just comes pouring out of him.
Lee J. Cobb was blacklisted for many, many years by Hollywood. It was part of the anti-Communist hysteria of the 1950's spearheaded by Senator McCarthy.
Lee J. Cobb starred in The Virginian TV series, Ed Begley, Edward Binns, Jack Klugman, E.G. Marshall, Jack Warden and Robert Webber were all Geust Stars on that show and Henry Fonda played The Virginian on stage in 1937.
I watched this again, just last night. In a cast filled with great professional actors, including the legendary Henry Fonda, it is Lee J. Cobb who dominates this film, EVERY scene he's in is his.
This is an epic masterpeice, the star power they had in this movie was phenomenal. Lee J. Cobb, I get goosebumps everytime I hear him yell in this movie, almost makes me feel like he's yelling at me. The remake was great as well, but this had more feeling & charisma from the actors. 10/10 for me
Should I thank you because you didnt call me a racist? What generosity. Could it be bc I am not a racist and said nothing that could be perceived as racism? How the frig did racism get injected into this debate?
I'll help you out. Guard your words bc you sound so stupid....
I apologize, that was condescending of me, and no I don't mean your racist and I'm sorry I used those words. I certainly don't think you are a racist, the sentence was me trying to say that but obviously I said it in a stupid way.
You are entitled to your opinion, and your judgement could very well be right. End of the day one of the things I like about the film is that we'll never know if he did it or not. Maybe we all naturally just want the kid to be innocent.
@myralangerhas Happy to be on the same page! It's actually really funny because the film itself is about respectful differences of opinion, lol! I really like that it's a film that leaves room for you to have your opinion and me to have mine, though I do also agree that the film is certainly more about the emotional impact rather than simply being a statement on race relations. At least we can both agree it's a damn good film!
Thank you for being so kind. I dont need your condescension in regards to what the film is trying to prove. Law school and criminal defense work has kinda taught me what reasonable doubt is. Dont try to school me further.
The case took place in NYC and in NY, there wasnt an elevated burden of proof for death penalty cases at the time.I love the movie, but still feel the guy was guilty. I outlined why before but you ignored.
@myralangerhas I agree about him being guilty. Two point 1. Fonda re-acts the old mans walking motion and it came out to 41 second vs the old man saying he got there in 15 seconds. The problem with fonda re-doing the motion is 1. How do we know the old man was moving that slow? obviosly if he heard someone yell out im gonna kill ya, and then hearing a body hit the floor i think he would be walking a little faster then Fonda pace in the movie. 2. The woman had to have here eye galsses on CONTINUE
@myralangerhas The reason why I know she had to have her eye glasses on is the fact that in the beginning of the movie juror 4 said when she was on the stand she remebered the most insignifanct details about the L train and what she saw of the murder...So if she recalled all that and was able to see the most insignifcant details wouldnt she then had to have her eye glasses on in bed, and lets say even if she did really see a "blur" nobody would lie just to say yeah the kid did it she saw somone!
@Gateway0807 she may not have remembered properly. People can trick themselves into thinking they've seen stuff they haven't. besides. if you purchase a weapon simply to do murder, you don't show it off to people. the kid wasn't that dumb
@pirateking193 If she rememebred the most insignificant detials about what she saw...how is it possible then she could not remember correctly? Also she she testified under oath, she was positive about what she saw, even Juror 4 even said that in the beg. as did all the other jurors besides 8 (Fonda)
@Gateway0807 there was no proof that the old woman wore her glasses. People can delude themselves into remembering things that didn't really happen, if they hear only snippets. People actually would lie; they just trick themselves into thinking it's true. how did she recal the insignificant details? People really can trick themselves into thinking what isn't true. Why would a kid purchase a knife to kill his dad if it could be traced and show it off. There's no proof the woman didn't misremember
The argument of the defense is that someone entered the victim's apartment, stabbed him with the same knife that the defendant had, (but lost) after the defendant had a fight with the victim, while the testimony of the first witness saw the killing by the defendant and the testimony of the second witness who saw the defendant fleeing the scene should be discarded all because they wanted to look good.
Man he did such a great job of being such an asshole. This is a great movie and Im 29. I think its really cool and this is ACTING better than movies today.
Can you imagine a movie today which consists basically of one scene/setting and 12 people sitting down talking, yet holds you spellbound for 90 minutes. Its a testiment to the quality of these fine actors
What i like about his performance in this Landmark film, among other things, is that as you can see is at 3 minutes 32 seconds , he interrupts himself while saying a sentence . Amazing .
I can't believe this. Shouldn't this movie have won an oscar? Henry Fonda for best actor. Lee J. Cobb or E.G. Marshall should have won one for best actor in supporting role. Also for best producer! Or for best film editing or sound editing. This movie is one of a kind. A masterpiece!
I will watch this clip a hundred times. Still, as a juror, I would have held the kid guilty. Just bc a piece of evidence is called into question, doesnt mean it should be thrown out.
@pirateking193 Sorry pirate that is wrong. Kid was angry at his father and fought with him that night. Evidence. Kid had a knife identical to the murder weapon. Evidence. Person claims they saw him doing it. Evidence. Old man saw kid running down stairs at time of murder. Evidence. I could go on and on. You dont understand the justice system. You dont have to prove every bit of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, you assimilate them all together. STILL GUILTY
@myralangerhas the knife was very common. Point was that the knife found at the scene did not necessarily belong to the kid. 2 of the witnesses were also extremely unreliable (one may have wanted just wanted attention and the other didn't have her glasses on, so her sight was confused.) twoAlso, the whole point of Henry fonda goading lee cob into a rage was to show that just because the kid threatened him doesn't mean he killed him. People say things they don't mean. You missed the point.
@pirateking193 no the kid is guilty...Juror number 4 mentions the woman who lived acorss the way at one point during the beg. of the movie about how she rememered the most insignificant details of the murder, they claim later that the woman did not have her eye glasses, but that contridicts her statement in court, if she remembered the most significant details of the L Train and the incident wouldnt she have to had her eye glasses on then when witnessing this crime?
@pirateking193 Now u are jumping to conclusions. "the knife was very common." What evidence do u have of that? Bc on juror broke the law and found a similar knife? Who tested his credibility?
"2 of the witnesses were also extremely unreliable (one may have wanted just wanted attention and the other didn't have her glasses on, so her sight was confused.)" That makes them EXTREMELY unreliable?
I'm not going to call you a racist or anything, and you're definitely entitled to your opinion, because all the points you've made are valid. The film is not trying to say that the kid is INNOCENT any more than say he is GUILTY in my opinion, it is merely making the very important point that there is a reasonable doubt. As long as doubt exists, the legal system demands that you can't send someone to the electric chair, you need undeniable proof, and that's how it should be.
@dwtrumble hes guilty for the simple ffact that the woman remembered the most significant details of the crime, therefore if she did remember that much and was able to SEE that much she must have had her eye glasses on then while in bed while fonda and company claimed she only saw blurrs and such....See how you could poke a hole back in the defenses armor...if she remembered the most insignificant points as stated by juror number 4 earlier in the film how could she do that not wearing her glass
1.) Why would the defendent wait three hours to retrieve the blade
2.) juror 4 admitts that he doesn't wear them to sleep; glasses are irritating, so it could easily be that she took them off, and put them on. That would have caused her to miss key scenes. People can fill in the blanks with false recollections.
3.) why would the defendent show off his murder weapon before the incident?
@myralangerhas Heaven forbid you ever sit on a jury. Ever hear the phrase, "Innocent until proven guilty."? That falls beyond reasonable doubt. Do you even understand the words "reasonable doubt"? The fact that you advocate just assimilating assumptions together to reach a conclusion shows not just your lack of morals, but thought process as well.
so much great actors in this movie ! Henry Fonda, Lee J. Cobb, Martin Balsam, Jack Warden, Jack Klugman, Ed Begley, etc. etc.
but this was the greatest acting in the whole movie ! by Mr. Lee J. Cobb ! he definitly should have won an oscar for this role, or for his supporting role in On The Waterfront ! i liked him as the detective in The Exorcist as well :-)
I use Lee J. Cobb's famous speach from this movie to motivate people from work ... it get's them to think twice. Funny thing, they think I just made it up!
@tomes55moon So am I glad to know you. It's also good to know there are still young people out there, like yourself, with the taste and intellect to enjoy a great piece of work like this.
@logancody05 dude,shut up,yes the movie has incredible acting and it is doen in a very simple manner does not mean movies today are any less deep or have any less talented actors,meathead.
@fidellah23 Your what twenty two years old? You probably still think Shrek is real. I'm more than three times your age and I'm telling you the movies today don't measure up to those of years ago. Today the special affects make up for lack of a viable plot or acting ability. Do you usually tell people who don't share your opinion to "Shut up?" Kind of childish isn't it? How do you learn anything when all you want to hear is what matches your view of the world. Narrow minded kid.
@logancody05 Movies of today do not just simply rely on special affects,most of the "blockbuster" movies out there do sell-out and attract the mass audience because of the visual appeal due to special affects...but there is no doubt just as talented actors and well done movies as anything that was directed 50 or whatever years ago...its not as though talented humans just no longer exist.
@fidellah23 Now look at what you've written, "Most block buster movies ... sell-out and attract the mass audience because of the visual appeal due to special affects." That's exactly what I'm saying. Years ago you went to see a Humphry Bogart movie because he was in it. It sold out because you expected a great performance from your favorite actor, not because you expected to have your sense of sight and hearing blown away by special affects. So the actor had to be really good.
@logancody05 I think going to see a film merely because of the headlining star is exactly as cheap as seeing the film because of the special effects. We have the same standards for excellence in acting they had in the '50s. Rent "Frost/Nixon", "Milk", or "The Reader". These films have discernible plot and don't rely on special effects to sustain the movie. There were films based on special effects long before 12 Angry Men, and there will be for many more years.
@logancody05 One of the greatest movies ever made. I never get tired of watching this film and never will. 12 of the greatest actors in one room and never gets boring! If this was done today, if would be racially charged, starring a stupid gangsta rapper and a drunken singer (if you call them that) like Snoop Dogg and Britney Spears, or some stupid football player, and there would be silliness and stupidity. If you do not include those types of people, no one would see it.
@SynthMusic4Ever Sadly, you are oh so right about doing that movie today. There's one other thing, if there were a modern day remake; they'd have to start the movie with a gory ten minute scene with the accused kid stabbing his father to death. If not the nit-wits today would miss the entire point of the story and burn down the theater in protes because no one told them who did it.
@logancody05 Yes, totally agree. They would have to show you the plot in detail to understand. Nevertheless, they will still include a rapper, athlete, or stupid singer in there - Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, Britney Spears, Big Papi, Paris Hilton, or Lindsey Lohan because it is the only way to attract the ignorant in today's society. The rapper would probably sing (blabber) in the jury room and Britney or Lindsey will get drunk and so forth. And of course, there has to be a sex scene etc.
everything.... every...... single.... thing that took place in the movie and i mean everything says that the movie is great.what do u think,i m an idiot or something?
Im kind of racist when it comes to old movies and old actors, but this movie is amazing and everyone of the 12 angry men are great actors. Lee J Cobb also did an amazing job in On the Waterfront as the bad guy.
@myralangerhas Again, any schmuck could have used the knife (it wasn't that unique) and just because he was angry doesn't mean he killed him (as seen when juror 3 yells I'll kill you.)
The whole symbolism of him tearing up his son's picture translates to the fact that, for some people, if all other appeals to reason, logic, and empathy fail, the thought of the thing falling upon your own children would get the argument through. It's like the old thought of a war only being truly worth fighting if you'd be willing to send your children to potentially die for the cause.
One of my favorite clips of any movie. Pure acting and without props. So much expressive dialogue and all in a single take. A very strong and convincing performance. Lee J. Cobb was the master.
I got his part when we read it aloud in Englis hclass. Being a sadist had never been more fun. I had a blast. (even though I support Juror 8's ideals ^^")
film is a craft.........oil on canvas.........i love film
this and the dead at cornell may 1977.......and evrything in between. i think they all should have gotten a statue for there indiv performances.....................
Le J Cobb (Jacob) was a Rusian Jewish actor of great talent. I agree with all the above comments. What about Lee as 'Jonhny Friendly' in 'On the Waterfront'? appart from Fonda the other actors in 12 angry men were all 'B' actors all great in their own right, these films wouldnt be the same without them. (Jack Klugman became 'Quincy') long live the movies!
Beyond a reasonable is something to be proved in the aggregate. Every single element doesnt have to be proved 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Taken all together, I still would have found the kid guiilty. Loved the movie though.
Fine powerful acting, superb timing of words and movement. We could have done with far more of this actor. I learn he played King Lear in the theatre. What a performance that must have been.
i still get goosebumps watching this...lee j cobb nailed this scene big time....epic
SpaceTruckin55 2 weeks ago
@myralangerhas. Cobb actually got on both ends because of McCarthyism in the 50s. First he was named, then he refused to testify, so they hounded him and made him unemployable. So after 2 years he broke down and testified so they would let him work again. He named 20 names, all previously named. He got to go back to work and did some great films like "12 Angry Men," but he was looked down on by many for ever testifying. He found himself in the same boat as Kazan, who was booed by some when he g
cardboardbelt 1 month ago
LOL @ 2:19
~Epic Judgment Stare~
MrPhenom444 2 months ago
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MrPhenom444 2 months ago
I have watched this film about 10 times over the years,and when it comes to the part where Lee J Cobb tears up the picture of him and his son,tears roll down my face.Superb performance from a very underrated actor.
marmaduke9 3 months ago 2
Very sentimental in all its perfection; quite moving - these was the era of the very best actors who never had to rely on "special effects"...
s1earle 3 months ago 2
Imagine this scene without the rain..
flatswing 4 months ago
@flatswing thats what makes this scene perfect.
justCHRlS 4 months ago
Lee J Cobb sounds like my late Father. (I love this part of the movie. I even cried like him).
MrChristian326 4 months ago
love love love ths movie and this scene is a poem of anger and repentance did i say i love this movie
stuart7034 4 months ago 2
I saw this scene from watching the movie the first time today and it made me teary eye lol. It's just such a powerful scene, spectacular acting, and a masterpiece overall. Take notes, "Twilight" actors.
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roflmaogirlful 5 months ago
ONE THE BEST PARTS OF THE FILM...
Andrew4511 5 months ago
If you look up facts about this movie, it says it was made in just 17 hours. Yet it is better than most if not all films made today. You don't even know any of their names throughout the movie until the end. Then you only get a few. Story just makes you so involved.
timoteoman13 6 months ago
la performance de lee j cobb est absolument REMARQUABLE
navaho1946 6 months ago
where's my $5000? lol :)
ambassador4today 7 months ago
A brilliant performance by Lee J. Cobb and the entire cast of "Twelve Angry Men." It's a very beautiful posting, and I had previously saved this film on my Favorites list, but the hands of YouTube snatched it from me. Considering the wonderful quality of these clips, I'm hoping that in the future, you might be able to fully download this extraordinary character study for all of us to enjoy. Thank you for sharing this with film fans worldwide...
nickellicker 7 months ago
I ALWAYS get choked up evertime I watch this scene. Lee J Cobb was an amazing actor. He NAILED this role.
coulari 7 months ago 3
"Rotten kids" they don't know what great film making is nowadays.
SuspenseSmith 7 months ago
I was Juror 3 in the play. This part was such a joy to do as an actor.
SuspenseSmith 7 months ago
could be the best film ever made...just maybe ,that's all i'm saying.
dfxman 8 months ago 3
What acting! Absolutely perfect in every way. This is what an American actor is. Yes, there are great actors in the British style and I love them with all my heart but Lee J. Cobb is the essence of what makes American actors great.
parzooman 8 months ago
12 Angry Men is one of the greatest movies of all time
92af 8 months ago
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francogirardi1 9 months ago
phenomenal
coglapse 10 months ago
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I love it! This movie is one of the best I´ve ever seen.
Ondrus21 10 months ago
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One of the best films ever made.
curlybobz 10 months ago
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, performances throughout the movie. They just do not make them like this anymore. What ashame. We're stuck with Jason vs Freddie. lol : )
MusicEd1 10 months ago
@93MickyD1 Right on! That's exactly what I'm talking about.
logancody05 10 months ago
@93MickyD1 Very true. You've made a very salient point. However, nowadays it seems the big block busters at the box office are not the wonderful films you've noted. 2 examples;"Ghandi" and "The Kings Speech." They each garnered best picture, but lost at the box office to lesser quality productions. This is almost certainly due to the fact that the movies earning more money had wider appeal, namely kids. It worries me these same kids will grow content only with mindless fluff. No intelect. stim.
logancody05 10 months ago
(with contempt) "You lousy bunch of bleeding <3s."
charlieparker1234 10 months ago
Thanks for this brilliant, great movie, Sidney Lumet. I watched it again tonight. RIP.
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everyone in this movie was brilliant !
mnw1989 1 year ago
Turner Classic Movies (TCM) folks. There is nothing better. I cannot imagine TV without that outstanding channel.
IMOGAJAD 1 year ago
My favorite movie of all time. Easily. No contest. That said, anyone who says that movies today aren't as good as they used to be is an ignorant asshole who can go fuck himself.
abcdefh1992 1 year ago 2
Johnny Friendly.
bawhite125 1 year ago
does anyone portray a pissed off man better than lee j cobb
ladrie389727 1 year ago
2:57
rootsm3 1 year ago
The 3rd juror disliked this video
DavidMcbadbad 1 year ago 10
Cobb wasnt blackballed bc he was named a Communist, , he was blackballed more bc he NAMED Communists. Why else was Kazan hiring him?
myralangerhas 1 year ago
I understand that #3 is supposed to be the most unlikeable juror, but I just can't help feeling so sorry for him here; it seems like all the anguish he's ever experienced in his life just comes pouring out of him.
dacombe78 1 year ago 4
It's amazing how they get Lee J. Cobb to admit the truth just by looking at him.
drunkenpeter99 1 year ago
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2001motaro 1 year ago
i could watch this movie a 100 times........awesome!!
spadesjim 1 year ago
@PhilSinatra
Lee J. Cobb was blacklisted for many, many years by Hollywood. It was part of the anti-Communist hysteria of the 1950's spearheaded by Senator McCarthy.
tatkopitwmf 1 year ago
Lee J. Cobb starred in The Virginian TV series, Ed Begley, Edward Binns, Jack Klugman, E.G. Marshall, Jack Warden and Robert Webber were all Geust Stars on that show and Henry Fonda played The Virginian on stage in 1937.
suir52 1 year ago
I watched this again, just last night. In a cast filled with great professional actors, including the legendary Henry Fonda, it is Lee J. Cobb who dominates this film, EVERY scene he's in is his.
MJLatora 1 year ago 3
what a classic. lee j. cobb was also great in the three faces of eve. i miss movies like this. everyone had a great roll.
roydu100 1 year ago
This man is a terrific actor. Why did he not get more leading roles in A movies?
philsinatra 1 year ago
RIP Lee J Cobb
saanzacs 1 year ago
lol who is the a-hole who "disliked" this scene?
ZiiMouf 1 year ago 28
@ZiiMouf it was me! wanna fight about it?
angryniggah 1 year ago
@ZiiMouf The 3rd Juror
DavidMcbadbad 1 year ago
@ZiiMouf He is ENTITLED to his opinion
ttlms 9 months ago
@ZiiMouf
I've actually accidentally had my finger slip and "thumbs down" something that I wanted to thumbs up, so that's probably what happened here.
dacombe78 8 months ago
Suddenly I miss my dad.
Leatherbubba 1 year ago
Great film!! I saw it yesterday in Argentinian Public Service Television.
I have seen 1997 version with Jack Lemmon and a Russian version that is good too.
jeanmarcARG 1 year ago
This is an epic masterpeice, the star power they had in this movie was phenomenal. Lee J. Cobb, I get goosebumps everytime I hear him yell in this movie, almost makes me feel like he's yelling at me. The remake was great as well, but this had more feeling & charisma from the actors. 10/10 for me
TomHouse77 1 year ago 2
man #3 ftw
jakeo96 1 year ago
"Rotten kids!"
wemonk 1 year ago
"I'm not going to call you a racist or anything"
Should I thank you because you didnt call me a racist? What generosity. Could it be bc I am not a racist and said nothing that could be perceived as racism? How the frig did racism get injected into this debate?
I'll help you out. Guard your words bc you sound so stupid....
myralangerhas 1 year ago
@myralangerhas
I apologize, that was condescending of me, and no I don't mean your racist and I'm sorry I used those words. I certainly don't think you are a racist, the sentence was me trying to say that but obviously I said it in a stupid way.
You are entitled to your opinion, and your judgement could very well be right. End of the day one of the things I like about the film is that we'll never know if he did it or not. Maybe we all naturally just want the kid to be innocent.
dwtrumble 1 year ago
@dwtrumble Thank you for your words and for being so considerate and thoughtful.
We disagree though. I think the movie had a more emotional than racial impact.
I will still argue my point of view and I hope you will also. An aimless exercise, but still fun.
Best
myralangerhas 1 year ago
@myralangerhas Happy to be on the same page! It's actually really funny because the film itself is about respectful differences of opinion, lol! I really like that it's a film that leaves room for you to have your opinion and me to have mine, though I do also agree that the film is certainly more about the emotional impact rather than simply being a statement on race relations. At least we can both agree it's a damn good film!
dwtrumble 1 year ago
"I'm not going to call you a racist or anything".
Thank you for being so kind. I dont need your condescension in regards to what the film is trying to prove. Law school and criminal defense work has kinda taught me what reasonable doubt is. Dont try to school me further.
The case took place in NYC and in NY, there wasnt an elevated burden of proof for death penalty cases at the time.I love the movie, but still feel the guy was guilty. I outlined why before but you ignored.
myralangerhas 1 year ago
@myralangerhas I agree about him being guilty. Two point 1. Fonda re-acts the old mans walking motion and it came out to 41 second vs the old man saying he got there in 15 seconds. The problem with fonda re-doing the motion is 1. How do we know the old man was moving that slow? obviosly if he heard someone yell out im gonna kill ya, and then hearing a body hit the floor i think he would be walking a little faster then Fonda pace in the movie. 2. The woman had to have here eye galsses on CONTINUE
Gateway0807 1 year ago
@myralangerhas The reason why I know she had to have her eye glasses on is the fact that in the beginning of the movie juror 4 said when she was on the stand she remebered the most insignifanct details about the L train and what she saw of the murder...So if she recalled all that and was able to see the most insignifcant details wouldnt she then had to have her eye glasses on in bed, and lets say even if she did really see a "blur" nobody would lie just to say yeah the kid did it she saw somone!
Gateway0807 1 year ago
@Gateway0807 she may not have remembered properly. People can trick themselves into thinking they've seen stuff they haven't. besides. if you purchase a weapon simply to do murder, you don't show it off to people. the kid wasn't that dumb
pirateking193 1 year ago
@pirateking193 If she rememebred the most insignificant detials about what she saw...how is it possible then she could not remember correctly? Also she she testified under oath, she was positive about what she saw, even Juror 4 even said that in the beg. as did all the other jurors besides 8 (Fonda)
Gateway0807 1 year ago
@Gateway0807 there was no proof that the old woman wore her glasses. People can delude themselves into remembering things that didn't really happen, if they hear only snippets. People actually would lie; they just trick themselves into thinking it's true. how did she recal the insignificant details? People really can trick themselves into thinking what isn't true. Why would a kid purchase a knife to kill his dad if it could be traced and show it off. There's no proof the woman didn't misremember
pirateking193 1 year ago
The argument of the defense is that someone entered the victim's apartment, stabbed him with the same knife that the defendant had, (but lost) after the defendant had a fight with the victim, while the testimony of the first witness saw the killing by the defendant and the testimony of the second witness who saw the defendant fleeing the scene should be discarded all because they wanted to look good.
myralangerhas 1 year ago
This scene pretty much shows why this movie is so fantastic... brilliant script amazing acting great shots... One of the best scenes ever
gb19 1 year ago
Man he did such a great job of being such an asshole. This is a great movie and Im 29. I think its really cool and this is ACTING better than movies today.
midas402 1 year ago
Can you imagine a movie today which consists basically of one scene/setting and 12 people sitting down talking, yet holds you spellbound for 90 minutes. Its a testiment to the quality of these fine actors
ipolson 1 year ago 5
What i like about his performance in this Landmark film, among other things, is that as you can see is at 3 minutes 32 seconds , he interrupts himself while saying a sentence . Amazing .
Mohi212 1 year ago 2
I can't believe this. Shouldn't this movie have won an oscar? Henry Fonda for best actor. Lee J. Cobb or E.G. Marshall should have won one for best actor in supporting role. Also for best producer! Or for best film editing or sound editing. This movie is one of a kind. A masterpiece!
MASKdk 1 year ago 3
@MASKdk
i totally agree with you . Lee J. Cobbs should have been nominated for an Oscar .
Mohi212 1 year ago
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jus saw it on 'retrolove movies' excellent movie eally enoyed it, the cast is brilliant aswell
mishy121 1 year ago
Excellent.
SweatingBullets32 1 year ago
One of the Greatest Movies of all time!!!!! Seriously an all star cast!!!!
Wehategod 1 year ago
I will watch this clip a hundred times. Still, as a juror, I would have held the kid guilty. Just bc a piece of evidence is called into question, doesnt mean it should be thrown out.
myralangerhas 1 year ago
@myralangerhas it was the only real evidence they had. if you can't proove it you let the kid go.
pirateking193 1 year ago
@pirateking193 Sorry pirate that is wrong. Kid was angry at his father and fought with him that night. Evidence. Kid had a knife identical to the murder weapon. Evidence. Person claims they saw him doing it. Evidence. Old man saw kid running down stairs at time of murder. Evidence. I could go on and on. You dont understand the justice system. You dont have to prove every bit of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, you assimilate them all together. STILL GUILTY
myralangerhas 1 year ago
@myralangerhas the knife was very common. Point was that the knife found at the scene did not necessarily belong to the kid. 2 of the witnesses were also extremely unreliable (one may have wanted just wanted attention and the other didn't have her glasses on, so her sight was confused.) twoAlso, the whole point of Henry fonda goading lee cob into a rage was to show that just because the kid threatened him doesn't mean he killed him. People say things they don't mean. You missed the point.
pirateking193 1 year ago
@pirateking193 The kid is GUILTY, all of Fonda's points still dont make him innocent in my view.
Gateway0807 1 year ago
@Gateway0807 on what grounds? The points are valid; are you racist like juror 10
pirateking193 1 year ago
@pirateking193 no the kid is guilty...Juror number 4 mentions the woman who lived acorss the way at one point during the beg. of the movie about how she rememered the most insignificant details of the murder, they claim later that the woman did not have her eye glasses, but that contridicts her statement in court, if she remembered the most significant details of the L Train and the incident wouldnt she have to had her eye glasses on then when witnessing this crime?
Gateway0807 1 year ago
@pirateking193 Now u are jumping to conclusions. "the knife was very common." What evidence do u have of that? Bc on juror broke the law and found a similar knife? Who tested his credibility?
"2 of the witnesses were also extremely unreliable (one may have wanted just wanted attention and the other didn't have her glasses on, so her sight was confused.)" That makes them EXTREMELY unreliable?
myralangerhas 1 year ago
@myralangerhas I agree the kid is GUILTY, all of the points made are just picky little points like Juror number 10 points out.
Gateway0807 1 year ago
@Gateway0807
I'm not going to call you a racist or anything, and you're definitely entitled to your opinion, because all the points you've made are valid. The film is not trying to say that the kid is INNOCENT any more than say he is GUILTY in my opinion, it is merely making the very important point that there is a reasonable doubt. As long as doubt exists, the legal system demands that you can't send someone to the electric chair, you need undeniable proof, and that's how it should be.
dwtrumble 1 year ago
@dwtrumble hes guilty for the simple ffact that the woman remembered the most significant details of the crime, therefore if she did remember that much and was able to SEE that much she must have had her eye glasses on then while in bed while fonda and company claimed she only saw blurrs and such....See how you could poke a hole back in the defenses armor...if she remembered the most insignificant points as stated by juror number 4 earlier in the film how could she do that not wearing her glass
Gateway0807 1 year ago
1.) Why would the defendent wait three hours to retrieve the blade
2.) juror 4 admitts that he doesn't wear them to sleep; glasses are irritating, so it could easily be that she took them off, and put them on. That would have caused her to miss key scenes. People can fill in the blanks with false recollections.
3.) why would the defendent show off his murder weapon before the incident?
4.)
pirateking193 1 year ago
@myralangerhas Heaven forbid you ever sit on a jury. Ever hear the phrase, "Innocent until proven guilty."? That falls beyond reasonable doubt. Do you even understand the words "reasonable doubt"? The fact that you advocate just assimilating assumptions together to reach a conclusion shows not just your lack of morals, but thought process as well.
TechnoWaffol 1 year ago
so much great actors in this movie ! Henry Fonda, Lee J. Cobb, Martin Balsam, Jack Warden, Jack Klugman, Ed Begley, etc. etc.
but this was the greatest acting in the whole movie ! by Mr. Lee J. Cobb ! he definitly should have won an oscar for this role, or for his supporting role in On The Waterfront ! i liked him as the detective in The Exorcist as well :-)
Cosmic86x 2 years ago 2
My dad was named after Lee J Cobb.
Girliegirl161 2 years ago 5
Great comments. Incredible movie. Incredible acting. Lee J Cobb was great from everything from Song Of Bernadette. to the Excorcist.
myralangerhas 2 years ago
I use Lee J. Cobb's famous speach from this movie to motivate people from work ... it get's them to think twice. Funny thing, they think I just made it up!
Bunch of idiots!
MrChristian326 2 years ago
1 of the greatest films ever made the acting is just superb all the way through
dunpor 2 years ago
hes the best actor in the movie
BrianJLockard 2 years ago 3
Johnny Friendly. The best.
myralangerhas 2 years ago 3
Lee J Cobb superb actor
Mr5083 2 years ago 3
fuck u pops
thedecider1984 2 years ago
pops you are one fucking dumb cracker .. you are the worst on the njhometown board my friend.
thedecider1984 2 years ago
great actor!!
lunaticpacino 2 years ago
amazing acting. anyone seriously investing any kind of emotion into this amazing film will be moved to tears by this
mooseclamps 2 years ago 2
This is one of my favorite movie scenes of all time.
TheT4xid3rmist 2 years ago
Brilliant acting.
Saren111 2 years ago
No Special effects.
No space invaders.
No nude scenes.
What you get instead is:
Great script
Great actors
Great direction
Great story
For you young people that's what the movies were like when they really were great. I'm sorry you missed it. Well at least you can rent the video.
logancody05 2 years ago 48
i hate my generation so much. and i cant do crap about it.
ocp188 2 years ago 4
@logancody05
i'm glad i've met someone like myself bro. i'm only 24 but it sounds like we have somwthing in common
tomes55moon 2 years ago
@tomes55moon So am I glad to know you. It's also good to know there are still young people out there, like yourself, with the taste and intellect to enjoy a great piece of work like this.
logancody05 1 year ago
@logancody05 dude,shut up,yes the movie has incredible acting and it is doen in a very simple manner does not mean movies today are any less deep or have any less talented actors,meathead.
fidellah23 1 year ago
@fidellah23 Your what twenty two years old? You probably still think Shrek is real. I'm more than three times your age and I'm telling you the movies today don't measure up to those of years ago. Today the special affects make up for lack of a viable plot or acting ability. Do you usually tell people who don't share your opinion to "Shut up?" Kind of childish isn't it? How do you learn anything when all you want to hear is what matches your view of the world. Narrow minded kid.
logancody05 1 year ago
@logancody05 Movies of today do not just simply rely on special affects,most of the "blockbuster" movies out there do sell-out and attract the mass audience because of the visual appeal due to special affects...but there is no doubt just as talented actors and well done movies as anything that was directed 50 or whatever years ago...its not as though talented humans just no longer exist.
fidellah23 1 year ago
@fidellah23 Now look at what you've written, "Most block buster movies ... sell-out and attract the mass audience because of the visual appeal due to special affects." That's exactly what I'm saying. Years ago you went to see a Humphry Bogart movie because he was in it. It sold out because you expected a great performance from your favorite actor, not because you expected to have your sense of sight and hearing blown away by special affects. So the actor had to be really good.
logancody05 1 year ago
@logancody05 I think going to see a film merely because of the headlining star is exactly as cheap as seeing the film because of the special effects. We have the same standards for excellence in acting they had in the '50s. Rent "Frost/Nixon", "Milk", or "The Reader". These films have discernible plot and don't rely on special effects to sustain the movie. There were films based on special effects long before 12 Angry Men, and there will be for many more years.
PostalTubeAlex 1 year ago
@logancody05 hahahah ok,as long as we are on the same page
fidellah23 1 year ago
@logancody05 One of the greatest movies ever made. I never get tired of watching this film and never will. 12 of the greatest actors in one room and never gets boring! If this was done today, if would be racially charged, starring a stupid gangsta rapper and a drunken singer (if you call them that) like Snoop Dogg and Britney Spears, or some stupid football player, and there would be silliness and stupidity. If you do not include those types of people, no one would see it.
SynthMusic4Ever 1 year ago
@SynthMusic4Ever Sadly, you are oh so right about doing that movie today. There's one other thing, if there were a modern day remake; they'd have to start the movie with a gory ten minute scene with the accused kid stabbing his father to death. If not the nit-wits today would miss the entire point of the story and burn down the theater in protes because no one told them who did it.
logancody05 1 year ago
@logancody05 Yes, totally agree. They would have to show you the plot in detail to understand. Nevertheless, they will still include a rapper, athlete, or stupid singer in there - Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, Britney Spears, Big Papi, Paris Hilton, or Lindsey Lohan because it is the only way to attract the ignorant in today's society. The rapper would probably sing (blabber) in the jury room and Britney or Lindsey will get drunk and so forth. And of course, there has to be a sex scene etc.
SynthMusic4Ever 1 year ago
@SynthMusic4Ever Your comment would be hysterically funny if it weren't so tragically true. Still, I do have to laugh.
logancody05 1 year ago
@SynthMusic4Ever Don't forget the obligatory explosion.
ElliottsFather 1 year ago
@logancody05 new movies aren't all bad. watch movies by christopher nolan or darren aronofsky, those are two of the best contemporary directors.
or david fincher, or edgar wright. yes, more crap might has been produced letely than any time before but good directors haven't died out yet :)
f4r0uq1988 1 year ago
@logancody05 Movies suck nowadays. These old films are masterpieces.
VitalSigns1 1 year ago
@VitalSigns1 Eloquently put, i agree completely.
logancody05 1 year ago
@logancody05
im 15 and i love this movie alot
TR3Y4LI4E 1 year ago
@logancody05 I agree and in some instances there is an occasional good one now and then but they are few and far between.
This movie, and the play it comes from, is amazing! And this ladies and gentlemen is ACTING! Bravo, Mr. Fonda as always, bravo.
wvwarrrior 1 year ago
@logancody05 fuck you, you pretentious douchebag.
mariolinker 1 year ago
Lee J.'s acting in this scene literally sucks up everything like a Sham-Wow. And WOW what a performance it was.
mginsel 2 years ago 2
Mel Gibson's Father !
VEGA747 2 years ago
Excelent Mr Cobb!!! You are one of my favorite actors!!!!!
En español: Gran actor Sr. Cobb
PS: Ya no hay actores como Lee J Cobb
Miguelr55 2 years ago 3
everything.... every...... single.... thing that took place in the movie and i mean everything says that the movie is great.what do u think,i m an idiot or something?
boxybum007 2 years ago 3
the guy did an excellent job and saved the kid.bravo.but i still think the kid was guilty.
boxybum007 2 years ago
Guilty
EmperorAlgus 2 years ago
It all boils down to objective critical thinking, folks...
SweetCherimoya 2 years ago
This last scene is too sad. No. 3 asserts his opinion too positively and unreasonably, though, or to be precise, because he knows he himself is wrong.
The uneasiness, the anger, is fully represented in Mr. Lee Cobb's eyes.
Whenever I play this movie in my class, most of my Japanese sutudents are impressed and sometimes shed a tear at this scene.
Amazing!
ahleutea 2 years ago
Im kind of racist when it comes to old movies and old actors, but this movie is amazing and everyone of the 12 angry men are great actors. Lee J Cobb also did an amazing job in On the Waterfront as the bad guy.
rougejaw 2 years ago
Lee J. Cobb. Great actor!
norjop 2 years ago 3
Lee J Cobb was incredible, but I still think the kid was guilty. Not every sliver of evidence of a crime to prove its falseness.
Based on the evidence - punk kid, ass father, similar knife, longtime hatred,.
myralangerhas 2 years ago
That's not evidence, buddy, that's circumstances.
izagve 2 years ago
Ever heard of the presumption of innocence?
izagve 2 years ago
Guilty.
goback3spaces 2 years ago 3
@myralangerhas Again, any schmuck could have used the knife (it wasn't that unique) and just because he was angry doesn't mean he killed him (as seen when juror 3 yells I'll kill you.)
pirateking193 1 year ago
@myralangerhas
>>>>>>>>>>"Lee J Cobb was incredible, but I still think the kid was guilty."
No, you DON'T think he was guilty, you jackass! After all the jury went through, you don't and can't think that he was guilty. It's just impossible!
SuperCruiser72 5 months ago
The whole symbolism of him tearing up his son's picture translates to the fact that, for some people, if all other appeals to reason, logic, and empathy fail, the thought of the thing falling upon your own children would get the argument through. It's like the old thought of a war only being truly worth fighting if you'd be willing to send your children to potentially die for the cause.
elliottchrist 2 years ago 2
@elliottchrist i thought it showed he was really just transferring his rage at his own child onto the defendent.
pirateking193 1 year ago
i donno a lot about this actor ,but i love him.
aatef1981 2 years ago 4
One of my favorite clips of any movie. Pure acting and without props. So much expressive dialogue and all in a single take. A very strong and convincing performance. Lee J. Cobb was the master.
PKWise 2 years ago 2
...he wasnt acting!,-...lol, just joking, nice comment!
sucharadder 2 years ago
I got his part when we read it aloud in Englis hclass. Being a sadist had never been more fun. I had a blast. (even though I support Juror 8's ideals ^^")
narutofangrl 2 years ago
My late father's favorite actor
NukeIt2Bdone 2 years ago 4
film is a craft.........oil on canvas.........i love film
this and the dead at cornell may 1977.......and evrything in between. i think they all should have gotten a statue for there indiv performances.....................
1019drummer 2 years ago
L.J. Cobb should have won the Oscar for this movie.
GEVMM 2 years ago 41
@GEVMM If you ask me, all 12 of them deserve Oscars.
warblerab 1 year ago
@warblerab not all bro.but surely mr.cobb.
MrBbfucker 1 year ago
Le J Cobb (Jacob) was a Rusian Jewish actor of great talent. I agree with all the above comments. What about Lee as 'Jonhny Friendly' in 'On the Waterfront'? appart from Fonda the other actors in 12 angry men were all 'B' actors all great in their own right, these films wouldnt be the same without them. (Jack Klugman became 'Quincy') long live the movies!
kiwihans 2 years ago
....WELL SAY SOMETHING
371st 2 years ago 4
Beyond a reasonable is something to be proved in the aggregate. Every single element doesnt have to be proved 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Taken all together, I still would have found the kid guiilty. Loved the movie though.
myralangerhas 3 years ago
I love Henry Fonda, but this was Lee J Cobb's movie. That scene is an exclamation point.
myralangerhas 3 years ago 10
I could watch this monologue on an endless loop. Amazing transition from anger to sadness.
nnavani 3 years ago 9
Genius. He was the real star of this movie, not Henry Fonda.
revolvergod 3 years ago 7
Yes I agree. This is amazing. Riveting
acmarc46 3 years ago 3
perhaps the greatest monologue in history
iacmynad 3 years ago 33
Fine powerful acting, superb timing of words and movement. We could have done with far more of this actor. I learn he played King Lear in the theatre. What a performance that must have been.
nbatterby 3 years ago 3