@Dino3070 I'm not an expert concerning either Stravinsky's or Pina Bausch's work, so this is really just my opinion. Still, consider this: The usual thing I know Ballet producers go for when performing the Rite of Spring and in particular this part is that weird lots-of-wiggly-dancers-in-slick-bodysuits-wiggle-like-cells-that-are-about-to-multiply. All of the dancers do pretty much the same. And in the end - surprise, surprise - you have one more cell of some sorts.
IMO, Pina Bausch excellently manages to portray the essence of the Rite of Spring - it is about a girl that is being offered to the Gods because her people have decided so. She sacrifices herself through dancing. The existence of Gods in this particular play doesn't even matter, because what the thing that makes her sacrifice herself are the people ogling and pushing her, and all of them being glad that she is the one who has to do the dirty job, not them.
Performatively, she also fullfills the crowd's want for a scapegoat AND stills its lust for sensation. If you find this distateful, well...we humans don't always behave very nicely. How else would you explain wars, mobbing phenomena, peer pressure etc? (And sorry for any typos too, btw)
@dgriite Whilst you are correct in some sense and the pieces brilliance lies much in the open field to interpetation, I think one might see this piece as well as Pinas work in general, in a slightly less literal way than you describe. Her work is entirely existential. Mening what's going on, an the characters represented, may also be the condition of ahuman being on an existetial level. Internally. Of course, there's no clear boundary, as people are social and interdepandant beings.
@Gnarbel The original piece is of course the depiction of an exotic sacrificial rite, in which both a man and woman are "the chosen", to a hethen deity, perhaps to insure fertillity, abundance and good crops etc. And other choreograpers have done thier take on the subject, like Bejart, who has fun with lust and the sexual awakenings. But Pina didn't go for the sexual play between man and woman here, she had only one "chosen" one. Thats a very important step away from the external.
@Gnarbel For an artist or a dancer, one might also perhaps interpret this as a portrayal of artistry: having this compulsive drive, to step away from the comforts and acceptance of "normal" society to sacrifice onesself for the art, even if it kills you, to dance onesself to death if you will, the deity then being artistry itself...
@Gnarbel Anyway, that too is only one possible aspect of this piece. The most important being (in my view) what she is facing, nomatter if it's internal or even visible. The rituals we have to avoid accepting our mortality, the conflict, all the emotions and mechanics of human psychology and this progression that leads her to exhausted acceptance yet fervant blaze in the face of her inveitable demise...I suggest Pina is holding up a mirror to us all. Can we see beyond the surface reflection?
i love Stravinsky so much but i dont understand what is this fuckin sekta-bitches..pffffff
Dino3070 2 weeks ago
@Dino3070 I'm not an expert concerning either Stravinsky's or Pina Bausch's work, so this is really just my opinion. Still, consider this: The usual thing I know Ballet producers go for when performing the Rite of Spring and in particular this part is that weird lots-of-wiggly-dancers-in-slick-bodysuits-wiggle-like-cells-that-are-about-to-multiply. All of the dancers do pretty much the same. And in the end - surprise, surprise - you have one more cell of some sorts.
dgriite 1 week ago
IMO, Pina Bausch excellently manages to portray the essence of the Rite of Spring - it is about a girl that is being offered to the Gods because her people have decided so. She sacrifices herself through dancing. The existence of Gods in this particular play doesn't even matter, because what the thing that makes her sacrifice herself are the people ogling and pushing her, and all of them being glad that she is the one who has to do the dirty job, not them.
dgriite 1 week ago
Performatively, she also fullfills the crowd's want for a scapegoat AND stills its lust for sensation. If you find this distateful, well...we humans don't always behave very nicely. How else would you explain wars, mobbing phenomena, peer pressure etc? (And sorry for any typos too, btw)
dgriite 1 week ago
@dgriite Whilst you are correct in some sense and the pieces brilliance lies much in the open field to interpetation, I think one might see this piece as well as Pinas work in general, in a slightly less literal way than you describe. Her work is entirely existential. Mening what's going on, an the characters represented, may also be the condition of ahuman being on an existetial level. Internally. Of course, there's no clear boundary, as people are social and interdepandant beings.
Gnarbel 3 days ago
@Gnarbel The original piece is of course the depiction of an exotic sacrificial rite, in which both a man and woman are "the chosen", to a hethen deity, perhaps to insure fertillity, abundance and good crops etc. And other choreograpers have done thier take on the subject, like Bejart, who has fun with lust and the sexual awakenings. But Pina didn't go for the sexual play between man and woman here, she had only one "chosen" one. Thats a very important step away from the external.
Gnarbel 3 days ago
@Gnarbel For an artist or a dancer, one might also perhaps interpret this as a portrayal of artistry: having this compulsive drive, to step away from the comforts and acceptance of "normal" society to sacrifice onesself for the art, even if it kills you, to dance onesself to death if you will, the deity then being artistry itself...
Gnarbel 3 days ago
@Gnarbel Anyway, that too is only one possible aspect of this piece. The most important being (in my view) what she is facing, nomatter if it's internal or even visible. The rituals we have to avoid accepting our mortality, the conflict, all the emotions and mechanics of human psychology and this progression that leads her to exhausted acceptance yet fervant blaze in the face of her inveitable demise...I suggest Pina is holding up a mirror to us all. Can we see beyond the surface reflection?
Gnarbel 3 days ago
I wish Wim Wenders had included this in his recent excellent 3D movie "Pina". Parts of "Le Sacre" are included, but not this.
drwls1 4 weeks ago
Ohhhh yeeeaaah
Silthrith 1 month ago
This is so mesmerising :) Really gets you thinking
FlipFlopsGalore123 1 month ago
Who is the choregrapher ?
Duplmar 1 month ago
Terrible and beautiful.
gpeddino 1 month ago
guess ill have to pop some shrooms like igor did.. so i can relate
jessegguitar 2 months ago
@jessegguitar No
paintballKid545 1 month ago
@paintballKid545 cry about it
blackhighpanther 1 month ago
@blackhighpanther I do because theres fucking idiots in the world like you that make me have no hope for humanity.
paintballKid545 1 month ago
@paintballKid545 hahahah hahahahah pray to Jesus then
blackhighpanther 1 month ago
TITS!
chickenpax1 2 months ago 3
Can one stay alive after this?
MsLalegator 2 months ago
I danced the whole time she was...never doing that again. myself sick 8{
17marci 2 months ago
This actually scares me. Its good, but scary.
NashLovesTea 2 months ago 3
pure art !
JUICEc47 3 months ago
If Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" was a ballet...
broadwaymelody33 3 months ago
Isn't this the part of Fantasia where the dinosaurs are walking across the desert? LOL
DNAngel2009 3 months ago 10
@DNAngel2009 Yes the best part of the whole movie but here they did it too slow in y opinion
paintballKid545 1 month ago
Amazing performance!
Afraidofmyfears 4 months ago
Congratulations!!! Thumbs up!
Auidi1 4 months ago
Does anyone know where I can find the entire preformance?
Sword1479 5 months ago
Nice version of the sacrificial dance :D. Thumbs up!
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jacesaces15 3 months ago 2
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superasians 9 months ago
Superb
steviesteps 11 months ago 6