Something to remember for those who cry about his technique: Propulsion is generated under the surface. The fact that he windmills his arms doesnt matter much as long as you dont fatigue, and he doesnt.
I would Say this is Not a World Record! Cause The Turns Gives Him Boosts! And Actually Alain Bernard MAde it In Long Course And he Made 46:94. Nystrand Made It In Short Course.
It is a bad stroke in the sense that it is not very efficient. He will use up more energy with this straight arm recovery than he would with a bent arm recovery.
Theres nothing wrong with this stroke for a 50 but he will start to feel it on a 100.
His the faster starter in sweden, in men´s how has been in a competition. And if he have a bad technique must he bee really good if he succeed to break the worldrekord whit it. well i talk good about him couse i an a relative to him. My grandpa brother was his gradpa or something like that :P But i only meet him four or five times
i think the arm recovery movement is not the key factor in freestyle technicke. We've seen great swimmers with differents recoverys and both of them have got good results, for example: look at Popov elegant recovery and compare it with the Sullivan or the Nystrand one, radically differents but both of them got world records.
arm recovery is a big part of technique and nystrand would go even faster if he had a smooth arm recovery. I don't know why his coaches haven't told him to fix it.
1. U don´t have too stretch out your arm to catch (non stoping motion, momentum, faster... )
2. It´s better for the bodyroll.
3. You get a more powerful ending of the push.
There are no disadvantages of Str8 arm recovery. The only good thing bout Bent elbow recovery is that it´s easier.
But if your really heavy like Bernard Str8 arm recovery probably making you sink because then you will need the "stretching out" to keep the balance in the water.
i personally really like his stroke, swimming biomechanical research has only recently started digging up some tasty evidence, yet we still know relatively nothing, as mr nystrand nicely proves. but coaches and swimmers ignore science, they just copy the best. watch how many swimmers adapt to his technique in the remainder of the season.
Totaly agree. The more sience into swimming the more results.. Swimming is 20 years behind most sports, some cases maybe even 30but you can´t really mesure.
I wonder why Schoeman seems to be unable to improve his performance; he is getting worse or stagnant. I notice, currently he is excellent only at the first 25-50m, but then seems to run out of gas, as opposed to Filippo Magnini who can gradually raise his speed, esp in the last 25m.
You are right. That rather odd style apparently is suitable for him, esp to beat top class swimmers such as Magnini and Sullivan. In the recent European SC Championship he lost to Alain Bernard in 100m. At that race, Nystrand returned to usual style, which probably was the reason to his lost.
But that stoke has delivered him to break WR both 50m and 100m in short course and set up 47.91 in 100m long course which is the no. 1 in this year and become the only one who can set under 48 beside Hoogenband.
According to a time converter 45.8 shortcourse 100m freestyle converts 47.00 - 47.20 in longcourse. I think Stefan Nystrand is one of the most talented athletes in the world. - He will brake 47.00 in the olympics and he will win by a secound belive me.
I am not quite sure. Alain Bernard will be a main contender for him. Bernard defeated him in the recent Euro SC championship. But, I suggest that he maintains his rather odd stroke (:D) in order to beat Bernard and other potential candidates.
He lost to Bernard because he hadn´t have his "rest" and was training hard three days before the race and becase he tried his old technique... Before this race he had been training easy for 2-3 weeks.
Nystrand have no problem beating Bernard. If he´s perfectly rested he can relax and yet he would take him down. I think he can go 45.5 in shortcourse and 46.8-47.3 longcourse. But I don´t doubt Bernard can make 47.9....
Well yea, Im his age, been compeeting with him (though now his way faster than me :P ), saw him swim at European Junior Championships 99 in Moscow. He god two second places. (50 free & 100 free)
Look at this for his achievements, its a bit out dated. His newest records arent there :)
By the way, Michael Klim from Aus, pretty much have the same stretched arms as Nystrand. Take a look at this video, where Klim breaks the world record at the first 100m in the 4x100 free for Aus.
As for Michael Klim, I saw his style in 2000 Sydney Olympic. He broke Popov's record and become main contender for the gold medal then. However, Hoogenband came for nowhere and set 47.83 in the semifinal and was able to maintain his performance in the final to take the gold, leaving Popov in the 2nd place, Gary Hall Jr. surprisingly in 3th place. Klim's fans were upset by his failure.
No he has´nt. He swam with high elbows in his jounger years he said in a swedish interview. If you look at older videos of him swimming in the semifinals Montreal 2005 you may notice a bouncing freestyle with fly kicks intead of his regular freestylekicks and more bent elbows.
I remember when Matt Biondi successfully introduced his efficient arm stroke in 1988 Olympic, and Popov enhanced that stroke in 1992, many swimmers followed it, including Hoogenband in 2000 Olympic.
Now I think if he takes gold medals both 50m and 100m in 2008 Olympic with that rather odd stroke, other swimmers will change their minds and make use of that stroke.
what da fug that technique sucks
LeanderLFC 1 day ago
Something to remember for those who cry about his technique: Propulsion is generated under the surface. The fact that he windmills his arms doesnt matter much as long as you dont fatigue, and he doesnt.
Mortybf 3 months ago
I suppose his technique is super fast for short distances...and the LZR helps him hold it for a lot longer?
Sesamestrt 6 months ago
@Sesamestrt This swim was done in a textile bodysuit 1 year before introduction of the LZR.
myfatself 1 week ago
Well, if its this fast, then i suppose theres nothing wrong with his technique right?
ilmig000 1 year ago
I would Say this is Not a World Record! Cause The Turns Gives Him Boosts! And Actually Alain Bernard MAde it In Long Course And he Made 46:94. Nystrand Made It In Short Course.
Mostafabaradie 1 year ago
@Mostafabaradie, Na
DVSFS 1 year ago
Are you supposed to pull straight arm underwater also if you are doing straight arm recovery?
ADVERTlSEMENT 1 year ago
Lol he's technique is my short distance style
PepsiTasteLikeCoke 1 year ago
No offense to Nystrand but his technique with the arms flailing around wildly is erhm...not that great..
BlackFingerBoard 1 year ago
bluewhale you are so right but as i saw this now i should try out again a little bit ;)
kollegahthomy 1 year ago
Shite stroke.
WinsorLockwood 2 years ago
I'd like to see a comparison of his underwater pull to the other swimmers in the race.
OverTheShoulder 2 years ago
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This is yards right?
littlezdawg2012 3 years ago
I think its shortcourse meters.
warrenG54 3 years ago
no it's not yard it's 25 meter lane
lb490 3 years ago 11
short course meters bro these guys can go 18 in yards and CIELO THE GREAT NOW CAN GO 17 FOR SURE!
bobsambora 2 years ago
he has record for 100 free but not 50 i think
Gh3d3 2 years ago
It is a bad stroke in the sense that it is not very efficient. He will use up more energy with this straight arm recovery than he would with a bent arm recovery.
Theres nothing wrong with this stroke for a 50 but he will start to feel it on a 100.
chrislittler23 3 years ago
But clearly it is allright when he takes the world record in front of sullivan og schoeman in this 100 m event. :-)
mensaboy1987 2 years ago
Look now. It's no such thing about good or bad strokes. The best stroke is the stroke you like the most and what's more fit to you.
Stefan is doing that technique simply becasue it's most fit for him.
RtRdOh33 3 years ago 2
it works in sprinting cause its quick
and is turns are real good
thats why hes so good at scm
and not lcm
thedman696969 3 years ago
what's his technique?
Virus278 2 years ago
what he's doing is actually a backstroke-on-free drill which is really a helpful drill but not everybody can pull it off that good at a 100m event
Somatostatin 3 years ago
His the faster starter in sweden, in men´s how has been in a competition. And if he have a bad technique must he bee really good if he succeed to break the worldrekord whit it. well i talk good about him couse i an a relative to him. My grandpa brother was his gradpa or something like that :P But i only meet him four or five times
Jacken1995 3 years ago
i think the arm recovery movement is not the key factor in freestyle technicke. We've seen great swimmers with differents recoverys and both of them have got good results, for example: look at Popov elegant recovery and compare it with the Sullivan or the Nystrand one, radically differents but both of them got world records.
victorhh12 3 years ago
arm recovery is a big part of technique and nystrand would go even faster if he had a smooth arm recovery. I don't know why his coaches haven't told him to fix it.
arvid781 3 years ago
Nystrand fixed his technique from bent elbows to straight arm recovery in his teens he said in swedish television.
343596 3 years ago
well that was not a very smart thing to do because he would be going faster if he did bent elbows now
arvid781 3 years ago
Why St8 Arm Recovery is better!
1. U don´t have too stretch out your arm to catch (non stoping motion, momentum, faster... )
2. It´s better for the bodyroll.
3. You get a more powerful ending of the push.
There are no disadvantages of Str8 arm recovery. The only good thing bout Bent elbow recovery is that it´s easier.
But if your really heavy like Bernard Str8 arm recovery probably making you sink because then you will need the "stretching out" to keep the balance in the water.
343596 3 years ago
+ Nystrand barely uses his legs. So he prob got the fastest armstroke in the world. Why would he change the best?
Do you acually know the advantages and disadvantages of str8 arm recovery?
Lots of his training is analysis expert analysis with vid.cam it´s just naive to think u know better than him and his coaches.
The thing Stefan should change is his starts and really try out fitting in a bit more kick in his stroke if its possible...
343596 3 years ago
he definetely will :)
dianaa333 4 years ago
nystrand's technique is everything i was told not to do!!
bluewhale18 4 years ago 30
@bluewhale18 yeah i recognized it too lol
Artegr4 1 year ago
i personally really like his stroke, swimming biomechanical research has only recently started digging up some tasty evidence, yet we still know relatively nothing, as mr nystrand nicely proves. but coaches and swimmers ignore science, they just copy the best. watch how many swimmers adapt to his technique in the remainder of the season.
darrenhamrye 4 years ago
Totaly agree. The more sience into swimming the more results.. Swimming is 20 years behind most sports, some cases maybe even 30but you can´t really mesure.
343596 3 years ago
go Nystrand, heja Sverige
kamayie86 4 years ago
wow, just wow
boomdunker 4 years ago
freestyle does actually mean freestyle btw
mattgreen64 4 years ago
woho!
gatukorsning 4 years ago
I wonder why Schoeman seems to be unable to improve his performance; he is getting worse or stagnant. I notice, currently he is excellent only at the first 25-50m, but then seems to run out of gas, as opposed to Filippo Magnini who can gradually raise his speed, esp in the last 25m.
lexsoft 4 years ago
Been drinkin to much I guess :) or maybe a girl interrupts his concentration.. :)
operisken 4 years ago
or a dude xp
casperyeah1 4 years ago
despite his unique arm recovery (stiff arm), he gets it ALL underwater! Takes very few strokes per length.
chip45 4 years ago
lol Im 14 and I make 58 sec in 100 meters and 26 in 50 meters :D
uknowcosa 4 years ago
It locks like he have verry uncontrolled arms!
askmartin 4 years ago
I do not like Nystrand's style (compared to Hoogenband or Popov), but with that style he is currently no.1 in 100m freestyle.
lexsoft 4 years ago
yeah well his style is a little bit od but aperently that works for him, sure it doesn't look that good but he is the number 1 in the world :)
opticalzero 4 years ago
You are right. That rather odd style apparently is suitable for him, esp to beat top class swimmers such as Magnini and Sullivan. In the recent European SC Championship he lost to Alain Bernard in 100m. At that race, Nystrand returned to usual style, which probably was the reason to his lost.
lexsoft 4 years ago
HAHA lol i do 38 sec in 50 meters... :P
GnomeTiger 4 years ago
he has a very abnormal stroke
ps2monster 4 years ago
But that stoke has delivered him to break WR both 50m and 100m in short course and set up 47.91 in 100m long course which is the no. 1 in this year and become the only one who can set under 48 beside Hoogenband.
lexsoft 4 years ago
how tall is he?
effectus 4 years ago
192cm
He does not look that tall, but I got the info from a sweedish coach.
Jonse70 4 years ago
ma le braccia le muove in modo strano?Nuove tecnica per aumentare la velocità?Vedremo..
ciucciariellos 4 years ago
According to a time converter 45.8 shortcourse 100m freestyle converts 47.00 - 47.20 in longcourse. I think Stefan Nystrand is one of the most talented athletes in the world. - He will brake 47.00 in the olympics and he will win by a secound belive me.
343596 4 years ago
I am not quite sure. Alain Bernard will be a main contender for him. Bernard defeated him in the recent Euro SC championship. But, I suggest that he maintains his rather odd stroke (:D) in order to beat Bernard and other potential candidates.
lexsoft 4 years ago
He lost to Bernard because he hadn´t have his "rest" and was training hard three days before the race and becase he tried his old technique... Before this race he had been training easy for 2-3 weeks.
Nystrand have no problem beating Bernard. If he´s perfectly rested he can relax and yet he would take him down. I think he can go 45.5 in shortcourse and 46.8-47.3 longcourse. But I don´t doubt Bernard can make 47.9....
343596 4 years ago
I see.
Well, in your opinion, which technique should he apply to beat Bernard, and take gold medals in Beijing 2008 Olympic : the old one or the new one ?
Btw, 46.8 secs for longcourse ? It would be spectacular, although not impossible.
lexsoft 4 years ago
The old one? Nystrand have been swimming like this, all his career!
operisken 4 years ago
So you have been observing his career for long time, haven't you ?
lexsoft 4 years ago
Well yea, Im his age, been compeeting with him (though now his way faster than me :P ), saw him swim at European Junior Championships 99 in Moscow. He god two second places. (50 free & 100 free)
Look at this for his achievements, its a bit out dated. His newest records arent there :)
By the way, Michael Klim from Aus, pretty much have the same stretched arms as Nystrand. Take a look at this video, where Klim breaks the world record at the first 100m in the 4x100 free for Aus.
operisken 4 years ago
I see...
As for Michael Klim, I saw his style in 2000 Sydney Olympic. He broke Popov's record and become main contender for the gold medal then. However, Hoogenband came for nowhere and set 47.83 in the semifinal and was able to maintain his performance in the final to take the gold, leaving Popov in the 2nd place, Gary Hall Jr. surprisingly in 3th place. Klim's fans were upset by his failure.
lexsoft 4 years ago
No he has´nt. He swam with high elbows in his jounger years he said in a swedish interview. If you look at older videos of him swimming in the semifinals Montreal 2005 you may notice a bouncing freestyle with fly kicks intead of his regular freestylekicks and more bent elbows.
343596 4 years ago
Nystrand may have suddenly redefined the freestyle sprint stroke!
groovydoo 4 years ago 2
Is there any other swimmer, esp top class, who follows his stroke ?
lexsoft 4 years ago
No, there is not. He is breaking all the rules! HE has a fast turnover and a powerful catch
groovydoo 4 years ago
I remember when Matt Biondi successfully introduced his efficient arm stroke in 1988 Olympic, and Popov enhanced that stroke in 1992, many swimmers followed it, including Hoogenband in 2000 Olympic.
Now I think if he takes gold medals both 50m and 100m in 2008 Olympic with that rather odd stroke, other swimmers will change their minds and make use of that stroke.
lexsoft 4 years ago
Nystrand is very strong underwater, and this style above the water, gives him an even stronger pull through the water.
operisken 4 years ago
"Jawohllllllllllllllllll, was is das denn?" xD
abspritzgefahr 4 years ago
fett nice
Marcusd0 4 years ago
magique
maxbalou 4 years ago
Schoeman is still the best!!!
sportsfreund92 4 years ago
I concur. go Roland!!!!
bobfan77 4 years ago
Yes. Go roland
darthphonebook 4 years ago
Yes.
Cobbe 4 years ago
Haha, jawooooohl indeed. Har du hans lopp på 50 meter också? :)
Nidhogg86 4 years ago