Chernobyl was a SOVIET STATE owned reactor. You couldn't revoke their corporate charter.
His example of worst disaster was within the context that is was caused by a Corporation thus the whole removing of their corporate Charter stuff. I guess you missed that.
You know how you make markets serve the people? You abolish them. BP's corporate charter is in United Kingdom. Americans can't revoke it...sadly. We can bar them from doing business in the USA however. All we'd have to do is get Obama to raise import tariffs on petroleum from the United Kingdom to extremely high levels, effectively pricing them out of the market.
Markets are extremely complex. They should serve the people. Big companies rarely adhere to that idea. "I think" this is Ron Paul's understanding as well. His explanation on the reasons capitalism is failing are strictly do to government intervention. I don't see this as chaotic. By Ron Paul's own admission: "free-market capitalism offers no guarantees that some fraud wouldn't occur." Living in the midst of it, it is clear that government controlled markets do not work for the people.
good luck to humanity as far as accomplishing that. we may be evolved in terms of big brains and ability to innovate technologically, but we appear to be gorilla-like in our social nature: i.e. the biggest bullies dominate.
please prove me wrong. i would really appreciate it, as i feel very cynical regarding human potential at this point...
some solutions would be egalitarian land and property distribution, collective or nationalized business ownership, rules abou environmental protection, equal distribution of resources / access to resources more generally, etc.
unfortunately, if you observe both the historical and ongoing nature of capitalist activity you will see that capitalism is really a mechanism for creating wealth for a small population by organizing human labor, industy, environmental use, financial systems, land and property distribution systems, etc. specifically to channel most resources, via the labor of the majority to enrich a small group of people. i believe that that is what capitalism is in essence.
societies don't exist to support markets. markets don't exist to support societies. the relationship between markets and societies is whatever the society - either the powers that be, in an inegalitarian system in which powers that be exist - or the society collectively, if there is a truly economicall & politically democratically run society - decides that that relationship should be.
@SoldierCyfix Stay Tuned! I've got a facebook page for this action, which I'll include in the video description. First, tell all your friends about this video, more details will come soon.
As a free market fundamentalist I am in complete support of revoking every corporate charter on the planet. Large corporations exist primarily as shields for powerful men to enact psychopathic actions without personal harm.
So your saying the stockholders of BP should be punished in a retroactive manner relative to the provisions of immunity the government (us) have granted them.
A corp is a govt created animal, we have failed to oversee our animal. So I think you have got the true responsibilities inverted.
@ThePunkPatriot I simply checked which state BP America was incorporated in. Frankly, not surprised it was Delaware, I believe most corporations are incorporated there because they receive tax revenue from very lax corporate laws.
@PersonalJesus348 You don't have to be headquartered in a state to incorporate in a state. As scoggles pointed out, pretty much every corporation based in the US is incorporated in delaware, because they have almost NO state regulations. If you don't believe me though, just check the SEC.
@PersonalJesus348 You don't necessarily have to have a physical address tyo incorporate. Just a mail pick up location. In Delaware, it is estimated that almost 50% of their population in incorporated, thus a corporation. A Corporation is just a formalized Charter
@PersonalJesus348@PersonalJesus348 You don't necessarily have to have a physical address to incorporate. Just a mail pick up location. In Delaware, it is estimated that almost 50% of their population in incorporated, thus a corporation. A Corporation is just a formalized Charter
@PersonalJesus348 You don't necessarily have to have a physical address to incorporate. Just a mail pick up location. In Delaware, it is estimated that almost 50% of their population is incorporated. A Corporation is just a formalized Charter or better put, a legal document.
I like when you talk about how large institutions allow people to do things they would reject as individuals, as they subsume their consciousness to the whole. John Dean writes excellently about this exact thing in his excellent and insightful "Conservatives Without Conscience."
Interestingly, corporate malfeasance resulting in termination of the charter causes greater disruption due to our weak safety net. A strong net means we don't have to fear for the future of the dislocated workers.
@imjustagirl776 Ha! Sure... I've got a hoodie design that I made for myself a long time ago, and have wanted to make screens for (I originally used butcher-paper stencils)
Now! Let's work on finding which state BP is incorporated in here in the USA, and get organized for action!
worst ever... really? Is this worse than Chernobyl?
anyways, it's your money. watch the following video starting at 8:19
watch?v=V1kA0yWnRGc @8:19
MensRifleAssociation 1 year ago
@MensRifleAssociation
You've taken his words out of context.
Chernobyl was a SOVIET STATE owned reactor. You couldn't revoke their corporate charter.
His example of worst disaster was within the context that is was caused by a Corporation thus the whole removing of their corporate Charter stuff. I guess you missed that.
ThePositiveAussie 2 months ago in playlist The Punk Patriot
You know how you make markets serve the people? You abolish them. BP's corporate charter is in United Kingdom. Americans can't revoke it...sadly. We can bar them from doing business in the USA however. All we'd have to do is get Obama to raise import tariffs on petroleum from the United Kingdom to extremely high levels, effectively pricing them out of the market.
alvagoldbook2 1 year ago
@alvagoldbook2 You can't abolish markets. The Communists learned that. If you abolish markets, you get the black market.
BP's head company is charted not in England, but Wales, and BP America Inc is chartered in Delaware.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
Markets are extremely complex. They should serve the people. Big companies rarely adhere to that idea. "I think" this is Ron Paul's understanding as well. His explanation on the reasons capitalism is failing are strictly do to government intervention. I don't see this as chaotic. By Ron Paul's own admission: "free-market capitalism offers no guarantees that some fraud wouldn't occur." Living in the midst of it, it is clear that government controlled markets do not work for the people.
benwetherbee 1 year ago
Some explanation may be needed on your definition of "society" and "market."
benwetherbee 1 year ago
I voted for Ron Paul but I have no allegiance to any politician and am open to any ideas. Who do you think we need to back in 2012?
moontooth 1 year ago
good luck to humanity as far as accomplishing that. we may be evolved in terms of big brains and ability to innovate technologically, but we appear to be gorilla-like in our social nature: i.e. the biggest bullies dominate.
please prove me wrong. i would really appreciate it, as i feel very cynical regarding human potential at this point...
yviva 1 year ago
some solutions would be egalitarian land and property distribution, collective or nationalized business ownership, rules abou environmental protection, equal distribution of resources / access to resources more generally, etc.
yviva 1 year ago
unfortunately, if you observe both the historical and ongoing nature of capitalist activity you will see that capitalism is really a mechanism for creating wealth for a small population by organizing human labor, industy, environmental use, financial systems, land and property distribution systems, etc. specifically to channel most resources, via the labor of the majority to enrich a small group of people. i believe that that is what capitalism is in essence.
yviva 1 year ago
societies don't exist to support markets. markets don't exist to support societies. the relationship between markets and societies is whatever the society - either the powers that be, in an inegalitarian system in which powers that be exist - or the society collectively, if there is a truly economicall & politically democratically run society - decides that that relationship should be.
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yviva 1 year ago
Excellent analogy!
Tressco 1 year ago
lol i love you ending slogan, am subbing. also when do we organize? and how?
SoldierCyfix 1 year ago
@SoldierCyfix Stay Tuned! I've got a facebook page for this action, which I'll include in the video description. First, tell all your friends about this video, more details will come soon.
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
As a free market fundamentalist I am in complete support of revoking every corporate charter on the planet. Large corporations exist primarily as shields for powerful men to enact psychopathic actions without personal harm.
We need to separate money and state.
SuperSmashDolls 1 year ago
@SuperSmashDolls I couldn't agree more!
Karynda 1 year ago
Great video. I want BP to be held responsible for everything that they've done.
XM8rifle 1 year ago
Can you give me an example of a free market monopoly not created by the government?
Prometheusforliberty 1 year ago
So your saying the stockholders of BP should be punished in a retroactive manner relative to the provisions of immunity the government (us) have granted them.
A corp is a govt created animal, we have failed to oversee our animal. So I think you have got the true responsibilities inverted.
mindprism 1 year ago
good vid
NubianTribesman 1 year ago
Spot on as usual.
I'd like to see you tackle the Israel situation. Shit is pretty ridiculous.
zotde75 1 year ago
Personally I think no business should be incorporated, nor should a state exist, however, direct action noa!!!1
Gettinghitonattheban 1 year ago
Houston, TX.
AstoundedAtheist 1 year ago
@AstoundedAtheist Incorrect, BP America is headquartered in Texas, but it is incorporated in Delaware.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
Delaware.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago 2
@TiradeFaction Thank you! Where did you find that information?
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot I simply checked which state BP America was incorporated in. Frankly, not surprised it was Delaware, I believe most corporations are incorporated there because they receive tax revenue from very lax corporate laws.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot PM'd you with source
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
@TiradeFaction Thank you!
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago
@ThePunkPatriot They're ALL in Deleware, because it has the fewest state regulations on the ways business can incorporate.
scoggles 1 year ago
@TiradeFaction
How can it be delaware if they don't even have an office there?
PersonalJesus348 1 year ago
@PersonalJesus348 You don't have to be headquartered in a state to incorporate in a state. As scoggles pointed out, pretty much every corporation based in the US is incorporated in delaware, because they have almost NO state regulations. If you don't believe me though, just check the SEC.
TiradeFaction 1 year ago
@PersonalJesus348 You don't necessarily have to have a physical address tyo incorporate. Just a mail pick up location. In Delaware, it is estimated that almost 50% of their population in incorporated, thus a corporation. A Corporation is just a formalized Charter
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@PersonalJesus348 @PersonalJesus348 You don't necessarily have to have a physical address to incorporate. Just a mail pick up location. In Delaware, it is estimated that almost 50% of their population in incorporated, thus a corporation. A Corporation is just a formalized Charter
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@PersonalJesus348 You don't necessarily have to have a physical address to incorporate. Just a mail pick up location. In Delaware, it is estimated that almost 50% of their population is incorporated. A Corporation is just a formalized Charter or better put, a legal document.
Beadbud5000 1 year ago
BAD ASS METAPHORICAL SMACK DOWN. buying some tee shirts with my next pay check!
mrkurt13 1 year ago
I like when you talk about how large institutions allow people to do things they would reject as individuals, as they subsume their consciousness to the whole. John Dean writes excellently about this exact thing in his excellent and insightful "Conservatives Without Conscience."
Interestingly, corporate malfeasance resulting in termination of the charter causes greater disruption due to our weak safety net. A strong net means we don't have to fear for the future of the dislocated workers.
FeelFreeToArgue 1 year ago
Awesome. Thank you.
P.S. Etsy suggestion box submission: sweatshirts?
imjustagirl776 1 year ago
@imjustagirl776 Ha! Sure... I've got a hoodie design that I made for myself a long time ago, and have wanted to make screens for (I originally used butcher-paper stencils)
Now! Let's work on finding which state BP is incorporated in here in the USA, and get organized for action!
ThePunkPatriot 1 year ago