I like this video because you can see it's made from a fan. They're not cheapshots. I agree with most of it.
Are we certain the Mothership is still in the game? They're doing changes all the time. Im sure that was just a gimmick to get people's attention. They can't keep that....can they?
I think this is going to be like Modern Warfare 2. They're going to reinvent the game to a fault. It's going to have some great aspects, and lots of content, but it won't have the heart of the first.
I believe Blizzard somewhat knows of the potential fail in SC2, but what are the losses? Obviously the game will be a huge sell, so maybe ppl wont like it and stop playing and return to SC1. What has Blizzard lost? Nothing, just more money gained.
Man... I tried to explain very similar points to a friend of mine the other day... He's a new player to starcraft 1 so he didn't really understand me. (like how units won't be easily distinguishable to audiences of e-sports).
People can enjoy watching a game of starcraft and easily get into it, because the graphics aren't too complex and units were simple. It's more about tactics of the player behind the screen than the flashy gameplay...
Blizzard will fail with this I know it. makes me sad
This comment probably wont be posted but what the hell;
I have to agree with some of the aspects and problems within the video but these are only early representations. Starcraft had many bugs and imbalances which were soon patched, because of this dedication of Blizzard and thats why it is remembered.
I have to agree that you can see individual units aswell as some other things like it taking 11 years.
Also I notice only comments against are allowed through, can we have some opinion?
This game will be vanished in 1 year after its release. sorry to say that..... Blizzard should figure out why C&C seris don't rock in South Korea.. -from a korean player-
Let me make a prediction. This game will fail. SC2 is going to be just one of the many RTSs that are going to be forgotten in an year or two after it's release. Meanwhile in Korea SC1 is still going to be a national sport. That's the way Blizzard are going. In the end they'll end up being exactly what EA are now.
They make us wait 11 years for this?! A poorly balanced, RPS style game?! Bullshit. I hated the "Age of Empires" and "Empire Earth" games for the RPS crap. Why would Blizzard do that? Well, i know what i'm not buying...
agreed, and the fact they killed LAN, really? it's a joy to be part of bnet, using LAN for pirating would be boring, that was unnecessary, how much do they already make from WoW? me and my friends had to LAN a game at a hotel after a competition at another town because we weren't gonna each pay 10 bucks for using hotel internet for ONE NIGHT... that's bull, just bull
Yes, SC2 has many disadvantages, but i wonder how the fuck Blizzard can make such a crappy design of the whole game. Why they don't just add a new dimension of the good old SC1. I just can't accept that units look like lego toys.
So, when you say you're "forced to mod comments," you mean that you were amazed to learn that there are people on the internet who disagree with you and would rather delete their comments than defend your position?
Sadly, we can't escape today's primary ideology for video games. This video made me realise it a lot more but what the video games are done for today seems to be mainly for graphics (of course there is still some good titles). I can understand good graphics are soothing for the eye and pleasing when fluids, but for most of us 20+(years old) casual gamers, there is much than meet the eye.
As for me most of my best game aren't modern, heck there are even some 2d game i can't give up.
I love starcraft, but this game just looks to plastic, like lego's. I also feel that it is very shameful for Blizzard to sell the game in 3 seperate parts.
blizzard was still a young company just hitting its stride with SC. War2 was the only really successful game before SC, thus blizzard had to make sure they were on their game.
While blizzard games are still good, they arent what they were. Because they know they are gonna sell a ton regardless of the content. Plus for a while now gaming has been getting dumbed down for casuals, at the cost of fun for the hardcore. Theres more money in casual gamers now. Gaming has been getting stale since 2001.
I had high hopes for this game, but then blizzard announced this fucking trilogy bullshit, 50 bucks for 30 maps? 150 dollars total for 90 maps? Eat my dick blizzard.
Stop treating every one of your games like it's fucking world of warcraft, the idiots who play that game will gladly pay fifty bucks a year for new purplezzz, but not ALL your consumers are that retarded.
Fuck I hate new blizzard.
I just hope they don't fuck over D3 with this new found money lust they have...
Starcraft2 is tipical example of overdoing and consumerism (selling the game in three different pieces for the full game price is money hunting....also they disabled the LAN thus leaving us to play multiplayer only on battlenet)
This is all a plot by Blizzard to make get the most players playing Starcraft II - They want to appeal to so many different audiences and thats why they added so many different features with their custom maps if you look at that video. Starcraft: Brood War was a game about simplicity and tactics - Starcraft II just seems like its all for show. They want to make the most money (releasing it in 3 parts) and they it warcraft 3 engined. Warcraft and Starcraft are not the same thing!
It's flashy, looks nice, but honestly not good enough. The graphics are a tad bit better then 2003's wc3, the gameplay is very much the same, the game looks like a waste of $60 imo.
I know a lot of people will get this just becouse it's Starcraft, but I'm pretty sure I'm gana avoid this trainwreck alltogether.
i hate when people thumb you down for your opinion. i too feel the same way. and if any immature kids will thumb me down simply because they dont agree with me, then so be it.
SC2 in my opinion has crap graphics. dont get me wrong, i mean the graphics and action are nice but the luster and shine makes the gameplay so convoluted. trying to see your own individual troops will be extremely difficult
I really agree with the first one. While the original Starcraft DOES look a bit simple in graphics, it's a lot simpler to play. With the new graphics, and all the effects, it looks a lot cooler, but it's a lot less practical. Why not just release a StarCraft movie if you want to do that?
The problem with all these new games is that there's too much eye candy and not enough gaming. The graphics are nice and all, but the gameplay is what really attracts the players.
"dude, you're absolutely rite, man. SCc2 is like WOW in some ways. 100% rite!" comments will NOT be approved.
Please, try to write something meaningful. The reason your post doesn't show is because it's either full of spelling errors, or has no meaningful content.
Ever since WoW came out Blizzard is no longer the Blizzard we once new. So you all have to get used to the new Blizzard and their new not so epic games.
Honestly, I think Starcraft 2 is going to be Warcraft 3 with different visuals. All it's lacking is hero units. I doubt with the WC3-esque game engine they are using will they be able to compete with SC1 in terms of the ability to micro and control units. It's factual that more micro is put into play in SC than WC3
more micro in SC than WC3? r u crazy? i play both games a lot. WC3 has more micro approach. But SC has more macro approach. I am not saying SC doesnt have micro, it just has less then WC3.
Can I just say that SC is a game that I, to this date, still play competitvely among my friends. SC2 Will never have the same playability the way it is headed. What can we do as a community to fix this and get what we want out of this game?
I agree with the animation.. it looks too cartoony, I was trying to explain this to my friends about how even though SC was in 2-D it looked more realistic than SC2. Have you seen the vespene geysers yet? it looks pathetic... I really hope Blizzard addresses these but it is doubtful that they will
when I first saw starcraft 2, I thought it was warcraft with different units. I seriously think starcraft2 lost it's characteristics and originality (the speed of the game and the micro skills, for example)
Well, I hope it becomes better though since i'm a sc fan :P
actually i am also worried about the speed of the game. when i watch games played by like sonkie and yellow or whatever, i find it will be like 8 min into the game and they only got like something u might have 4 or 5 min in sc 1.
To be honest, I dont really mind Starcraft 2 but they tried to over do themselves and make everything look cool. Whos goin to spend money on 3 games to play 1 thing? I most likely wont purchase sc2 until they decrease the prices
Good to see I'm not the only person that has a very bad feeling about this game. There's just seems to be no originality in the units as there was in SC1. And the graphics of WC3 may actually be better than those in this game. I think the economy has caused Vivendi to force Blizzard to make a cash cow game without the usual Blizzard ingenuity.
A consumer with a brain. Someone, alert the media! Don't you know that:
Companies exist solely to exploit the consumer and squeeze money out of us - that's how it's supposed to be. You don't have any right to complain! Blizzard are doing us a favor by collecting our hard earned money. Thank you, Blizzard executives! =P
i've read that the trilogy campaign will be released over a course of time. First campaign comes out then a month or 2 later the second and then the final one 2 months after that. and every campaign will cost around 50 bucks. So basicly your paying 150 buck for a complete game... I refuse to pay 150 bucks for a complete game in wich the graphics already look outdated. Dawn of war 2 was better graphics. and the terran reapers look like cheap knock-off of the DoW2 assualt marines...
I think the fact that blizz has caused so much publicity and anticipation is because they know sc2 will disappoint many fans. But they don't care, as long as we get sucked in to pay up front (which the "trilogy" idea completely proves). I think sc2 will be alot like wow: tons of gimmicks (as shown), "amazing graphics" (which suck upon closer look), and very little substance beneath it all. Looks like blizz has stopped caring about everything but their bottom line...how sad.
I couldnt agree more. My initial thoughts was it loks like wc/wow and like every other game out there now. The play style seems like command and conquer.
Besides the units and buildings looking good individually, seeing it all together is utter shit. Sad to see sc end up being like this after all this time but im still hoping for the best.
SC2's definitely going for a new look. The terran buildings look definitely too blocky, the zerg's almost cartoonish, and the protoss... the pylons definitely look unrealistic. They desperstely wanted to escape Starcraft's "bad-graphic" reputation, but personally even though I love amazing graphics Starcraft's easier graphics were less confusing and invited a larger audience, not all who had super computers.
Please, please Blizzard, hear my plea. Keep World of Warcraft in its own game. I don't want my carriers to look like they got pimped out in Shat'trath. I want tanks that look like they came out of hell, not Toy's R' Us. And I want my hydralisk armies to haunt my opponents in their sleep, not make them laugh their ass off. The Starcraft community is NOT the WoW community, we aren't 12 years old! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PATCH THESE MODELS!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, if blizzard sees this (and I hope they do) I hope they take it seriously because i've been hoping for SC2 since i was a kid. This would just ruin the game. I HATE warcraft and WOW for all the reasons listed below and the future ones above. The way this game is going is basically an interactive cartoon movie that doesn't make sense. Really dissapointing so far. BLIZZARD was a company I looked up to in the past now they are just sellouts and want to make as much money as possible. SAD
I agree regarding the look of the game.. the units look like they're from warcraft, or toys.. kinda reminds me with how they handled the new diablo... they made it too... "clean" or "kiddy"..
I say we all boycott sc2 until blizzard basically starts the graphics/style from scratch and attempts to implement some of the original sc1 gameplay. Wc3 makes me nauseated. D2 I didn't like either. D3 I am not going to buy. I heard that most of the team that had the creative input on the original starcraft left blizzard a while back.
I very much agree with the not-so easily identified units part. I think lately RTS games have been wretchedly flashly, glossy and bright. Also, one of the beauties of SC:BW is that ANY computer can handle running the game. I DESPISE lag and poor frame rate in RTS games. Oh and I don't like the new units at all either. I totally agree with starcraft not being a game of rock paper scissors.
Yeah! I think blizzard is engaged in so many projects at same time that maybe they aren't using just new Ideas... copying a lot of things of other games and stuff. There are people that are not happy with the new Diablo III graphics, saying that they look like World of Warcraft. And speaking of WoW, anyone here have compared the Protoss Colossus to the Marsh creature that spawns in Zangarmarsh? They look EXACTLY the same. oO
"Starcraft 2 has great potential, but as witht he announcement of Starcraft, Blizzard has to listen to the community who made Starcraft what it is" YES!! btw i agree with like 80% of what you said. Starcraft 2 does look horrible, and i hope that blizzard does not release Starcraft 2 that looks anything like this.
Can we like make a petition and send it to the makers of star craft to bring to their attention that we really don't like the direction the game is going?
i dont think blizzard even cares about this game -.- they're copying other games, and 100 yr old books(like wtf). they're seeling the game in 3 pieces, AND it looks like C&C which is fucking shit -.- seriously it has no friends
And im aggreeing with you, it looks like tetris...more like blocks.. like they've used the models from Wc3, remade them a bit and used the same options as in SC1
I think starcraft 2 isn't gonna be a big success because it will compete with SC1. All those animations will be interesting to watch at the begaining but once we are used to it, they will only get in the way. You want to keep some playability if you want a game to last. If they are only concerned about advancing the universe of starcraft, why not make annother kind of game. It's bit sad blizzard decided not to finnish starcraft ghost.
rofl Ghosts head looks like a transformers,and whats with his gun?looks like it needs to be waaaaay shorter,and he looks like a failed experiment on humans,i mean look at those muscles(or whatever that is)the Ghost should look like a normal,intelligent member of the terrans.the Collossuses light really confuses,but its name is COLOSSUS so its meant to be bulky and what the hell is happening from 4:06 to 4:23
I can agree with the comment that a tank looks like a toy... I was noticed that in fact maybe a whole terran race looks like from a Toy Story movie... It's a shame, that a i specialist, thick and thin ghost, looks now like some shitty hybrid with some pipes comin' from his head or something... He's fat now, and looses estetic reputation of powerful and inteligent unit.
the problem with rock paper scissors gameplay is simple.. just look at command & conquer 3 (pre KW).. it was all down to the luck of what build you chose, if 1 unit alone is the best way to counter something then it just becomes luck of which build order is more approriate.. and to easy to keep control of the game..
and i agree with this video, thor (though very cool) will i think be quite useless as will the mothership.
i suspect pro's will tone down graphics to make it easy to see units :).
this game dosnt feel like starcraft... they have to get rid of the units having stupid advantages over another... or else it beecomes pointless and loses the starcraft feel
I'll with a lot of people here, I'll end up back on SCI after a little bit of play on here. I also dislike how they are three different parts of the game to buy.
i hope blizzard gets a good associate 3d artist that will make a second quality to the game called 'competitive animation' which will revert to more of a SC1 feel where you can see the units better, and run the game smoother cause if people are still lagging in SC1 then SC2 is gonna suck :O
anyways ya... they need a second version of animation and models
Honestly, I haven't been excited for SC2 ever since I heard who the lead designer was. Dustin Brower is doing the lead design for the game, he also did work and Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 and LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth. And... I hated both those games. A name wont make a game good. The people behind the game are left to make it good. So, all in all... I'll try SC2 out when it launches. But, I suspect it'll be a week before I wanna pop SC1 back in.
Thanks for this interesting information. I think future gamers will be better off if they stay informed like you have, and don't just give into hype and buy crap games because some company could "get away with it".
Blizzard needs to be called out on this massive failure. The fact that they hired a guy from C&C explains why the game looks the way it does.
Hehe thanks for the video post. I was interested in seeing some more about SC2, and this answered pretty much all I wanted to know :3
Blizzard has kinda gone down the drain. Blizzard has one of the highest turn over rates in the video game industry anymore. Plus, their merging with Activision kinda makes me think they're going to lean more towards casual gamers now. In my eyes the Blizzard I loved for so long is dead. /cry
I completely agree with you, Kefka. These were things I was also afraid of and now see that have become a reality. Well I guess nothing good lasts forever. Thanks for the post and news, Sin!
gamplay OMG. there is no gameplay in SC2 it is aimed at shallow 7-14 yo kids who like the shiny colours many movements on the screen! as someone else beforme me put it SC2 is a big PUKE - blizzard have huge resources and when you have that you forget about creativity! had they had scarce resources like they did in the early days they would have used them in a creative way...
I think that some of you are right. Units are hard to distinguish during the fight but thanks to a good graphic, battles are more realistic (war = chaos; watch "Saving private Rayan"). Blizz sholud take whole Starcraft 1 ang chage viual side of it. The system of structures and units was optimal in S1.
Blizzard are Screwed, They put all their eggs in 1 basket (WOW) now it's dieing, There trying to pull strings by Creating SC2 to keep themselves alive. Although 98% of everything Blizzard creates is Ninja'd, It's only a matter of time. Like Beth creating Fallout 3 under the guise of 'For the Fans' but it's just an excuse to try and keep their Company alive. (It was only for the oblivion community and Xbox kids) . . .
Blizzard executives are milking the fans and showing their true colors because Starcraft 2 failed. Look at Valve's "The Orange Box", where you get Half Life 2, ep.1 and ep.2, Portal and Team Fortress 2 for the price of one game. That's five times the value of Blizzards package.
If you have any respect for yourself at all, you'll avoid buying these three "story segments". There's a website out there called PIRATE BAY. Go there. Don't be consumer cattle, please don't put up with this scam.
the biggest thing i'm worried about is that they'll put in a rock-paper-scissors like in AoE games. Starcraft was more about micro and how you used your units not, "they have light infantry, therefore, i must make cavalry".
i think rock-paper-scissors is why i get bored of AoE games but never with Starcraft
I think the main reason Blizz loves the new simple cartoonish element in their artstyle is that it gives them an excuse to "lower" the graphic requirements of it's future games. Lower comp specs have been a mainstay in blizz games and a good marketing tool for them for years.
Main thing is the Blizzard developer have been playing too much WOW thats why everything they make looks like WOW. The Protoss now looks more like NightElf, I mean where's the armor? why he have to wear robe that primitive. The reaper unit is so fucking stupid, he hold pistols that can blast stuff up??? and hes a TRAINED! criminal(wow cant get that creative). The Zergs now looks like some WOW mobs. So yeah...you can say that they were smoking pots and play WOW when they design this garbage
My main agreement is about that micromanagement may become redundant, which is what made the original so competitive, it was rather easy to pick up as an RTS, but difficult to master unless you really practised micromanagement. I think it may become too easy and be more about shoveling out fast units as opposed to build order, conserving resources, etc. The original had so many possibilities, you could pull back from having nothing if you're clever, but most of the micro seems done for you.
Is anyone else having a problem clearly seeing what is happening in battles? There`s too much animation and too much color and shades.. I just find it really hard to tell units apart with everything they`ve added.
The first thing I thought when I saw the Colossus was that it looked like the WotW tripods. There are so many things that I'm afraid will spoil Starcraft completely. I had the same opinions about goofy looking buildings like the new barracks, and alot of the units looking rediculously cartoonish, but another thing that bothers the hell out of me is the new dialog voices. Old sc sounded awesome. Every single unit had a feared voice. Find a demo vid, listen to new terran units. They sound homo. :(
I hate what blizz have done with SC2. its really really cartoony. WC and WoW are cartoony, and fair enough it works. but SC was more serious, more dark and kinda gothy. Id like to see that return to SC2.
Great video Sine. You know I can't understand Blizzard either. From an ethical point of view, they should listen to real fans who really know this game. From financial point of view, casual gamers are not competitive so they usually do not play multiplayer. This means the life-span is shortened of SC 2. I think you already see my point : Blizzard is making a huge mistake both ethically and financially....How come they don't see it?
I hope someone from blizzards see's this and so this game doesn't become War4. Or some alien version of Age of Mythology. Bc that's what this game is starting to remind me of. If you all want an Enemy make it EA. EA wants to rule of the gaming world. They kill quality and make quantity. Sadly thats where I think blizzard might be going. I'm just gonna hope Diablo 3 is messed up. Least it still looks promising.
I like this video because you can see it's made from a fan. They're not cheapshots. I agree with most of it.
Are we certain the Mothership is still in the game? They're doing changes all the time. Im sure that was just a gimmick to get people's attention. They can't keep that....can they?
I think this is going to be like Modern Warfare 2. They're going to reinvent the game to a fault. It's going to have some great aspects, and lots of content, but it won't have the heart of the first.
I believe Blizzard somewhat knows of the potential fail in SC2, but what are the losses? Obviously the game will be a huge sell, so maybe ppl wont like it and stop playing and return to SC1. What has Blizzard lost? Nothing, just more money gained.
Man... I tried to explain very similar points to a friend of mine the other day... He's a new player to starcraft 1 so he didn't really understand me. (like how units won't be easily distinguishable to audiences of e-sports).
People can enjoy watching a game of starcraft and easily get into it, because the graphics aren't too complex and units were simple. It's more about tactics of the player behind the screen than the flashy gameplay...
Blizzard will fail with this I know it. makes me sad
This comment probably wont be posted but what the hell;
I have to agree with some of the aspects and problems within the video but these are only early representations. Starcraft had many bugs and imbalances which were soon patched, because of this dedication of Blizzard and thats why it is remembered.
I have to agree that you can see individual units aswell as some other things like it taking 11 years.
Also I notice only comments against are allowed through, can we have some opinion?
This game will be vanished in 1 year after its release. sorry to say that..... Blizzard should figure out why C&C seris don't rock in South Korea.. -from a korean player-
Let me make a prediction. This game will fail. SC2 is going to be just one of the many RTSs that are going to be forgotten in an year or two after it's release. Meanwhile in Korea SC1 is still going to be a national sport. That's the way Blizzard are going. In the end they'll end up being exactly what EA are now.
They make us wait 11 years for this?! A poorly balanced, RPS style game?! Bullshit. I hated the "Age of Empires" and "Empire Earth" games for the RPS crap. Why would Blizzard do that? Well, i know what i'm not buying...
agreed, and the fact they killed LAN, really? it's a joy to be part of bnet, using LAN for pirating would be boring, that was unnecessary, how much do they already make from WoW? me and my friends had to LAN a game at a hotel after a competition at another town because we weren't gonna each pay 10 bucks for using hotel internet for ONE NIGHT... that's bull, just bull
Yes, SC2 has many disadvantages, but i wonder how the fuck Blizzard can make such a crappy design of the whole game. Why they don't just add a new dimension of the good old SC1. I just can't accept that units look like lego toys.
So, when you say you're "forced to mod comments," you mean that you were amazed to learn that there are people on the internet who disagree with you and would rather delete their comments than defend your position?
Sadly, we can't escape today's primary ideology for video games. This video made me realise it a lot more but what the video games are done for today seems to be mainly for graphics (of course there is still some good titles). I can understand good graphics are soothing for the eye and pleasing when fluids, but for most of us 20+(years old) casual gamers, there is much than meet the eye.
As for me most of my best game aren't modern, heck there are even some 2d game i can't give up.
I love starcraft, but this game just looks to plastic, like lego's. I also feel that it is very shameful for Blizzard to sell the game in 3 seperate parts.
blizzard was still a young company just hitting its stride with SC. War2 was the only really successful game before SC, thus blizzard had to make sure they were on their game.
While blizzard games are still good, they arent what they were. Because they know they are gonna sell a ton regardless of the content. Plus for a while now gaming has been getting dumbed down for casuals, at the cost of fun for the hardcore. Theres more money in casual gamers now. Gaming has been getting stale since 2001.
I had high hopes for this game, but then blizzard announced this fucking trilogy bullshit, 50 bucks for 30 maps? 150 dollars total for 90 maps? Eat my dick blizzard.
Stop treating every one of your games like it's fucking world of warcraft, the idiots who play that game will gladly pay fifty bucks a year for new purplezzz, but not ALL your consumers are that retarded.
Fuck I hate new blizzard.
I just hope they don't fuck over D3 with this new found money lust they have...
Starcraft2 is tipical example of overdoing and consumerism (selling the game in three different pieces for the full game price is money hunting....also they disabled the LAN thus leaving us to play multiplayer only on battlenet)
This is all a plot by Blizzard to make get the most players playing Starcraft II - They want to appeal to so many different audiences and thats why they added so many different features with their custom maps if you look at that video. Starcraft: Brood War was a game about simplicity and tactics - Starcraft II just seems like its all for show. They want to make the most money (releasing it in 3 parts) and they it warcraft 3 engined. Warcraft and Starcraft are not the same thing!
It's flashy, looks nice, but honestly not good enough. The graphics are a tad bit better then 2003's wc3, the gameplay is very much the same, the game looks like a waste of $60 imo.
I know a lot of people will get this just becouse it's Starcraft, but I'm pretty sure I'm gana avoid this trainwreck alltogether.
i hate when people thumb you down for your opinion. i too feel the same way. and if any immature kids will thumb me down simply because they dont agree with me, then so be it.
SC2 in my opinion has crap graphics. dont get me wrong, i mean the graphics and action are nice but the luster and shine makes the gameplay so convoluted. trying to see your own individual troops will be extremely difficult
I really agree with the first one. While the original Starcraft DOES look a bit simple in graphics, it's a lot simpler to play. With the new graphics, and all the effects, it looks a lot cooler, but it's a lot less practical. Why not just release a StarCraft movie if you want to do that?
The problem with all these new games is that there's too much eye candy and not enough gaming. The graphics are nice and all, but the gameplay is what really attracts the players.
"dude, you're absolutely rite, man. SCc2 is like WOW in some ways. 100% rite!" comments will NOT be approved.
Please, try to write something meaningful. The reason your post doesn't show is because it's either full of spelling errors, or has no meaningful content.
Ever since WoW came out Blizzard is no longer the Blizzard we once new. So you all have to get used to the new Blizzard and their new not so epic games.
Honestly, I think Starcraft 2 is going to be Warcraft 3 with different visuals. All it's lacking is hero units. I doubt with the WC3-esque game engine they are using will they be able to compete with SC1 in terms of the ability to micro and control units. It's factual that more micro is put into play in SC than WC3
more micro in SC than WC3? r u crazy? i play both games a lot. WC3 has more micro approach. But SC has more macro approach. I am not saying SC doesnt have micro, it just has less then WC3.
Can I just say that SC is a game that I, to this date, still play competitvely among my friends. SC2 Will never have the same playability the way it is headed. What can we do as a community to fix this and get what we want out of this game?
I agree with the animation.. it looks too cartoony, I was trying to explain this to my friends about how even though SC was in 2-D it looked more realistic than SC2. Have you seen the vespene geysers yet? it looks pathetic... I really hope Blizzard addresses these but it is doubtful that they will
when I first saw starcraft 2, I thought it was warcraft with different units. I seriously think starcraft2 lost it's characteristics and originality (the speed of the game and the micro skills, for example)
Well, I hope it becomes better though since i'm a sc fan :P
actually i am also worried about the speed of the game. when i watch games played by like sonkie and yellow or whatever, i find it will be like 8 min into the game and they only got like something u might have 4 or 5 min in sc 1.
To be honest, I dont really mind Starcraft 2 but they tried to over do themselves and make everything look cool. Whos goin to spend money on 3 games to play 1 thing? I most likely wont purchase sc2 until they decrease the prices
Good to see I'm not the only person that has a very bad feeling about this game. There's just seems to be no originality in the units as there was in SC1. And the graphics of WC3 may actually be better than those in this game. I think the economy has caused Vivendi to force Blizzard to make a cash cow game without the usual Blizzard ingenuity.
A consumer with a brain. Someone, alert the media! Don't you know that:
Companies exist solely to exploit the consumer and squeeze money out of us - that's how it's supposed to be. You don't have any right to complain! Blizzard are doing us a favor by collecting our hard earned money. Thank you, Blizzard executives! =P
i've read that the trilogy campaign will be released over a course of time. First campaign comes out then a month or 2 later the second and then the final one 2 months after that. and every campaign will cost around 50 bucks. So basicly your paying 150 buck for a complete game... I refuse to pay 150 bucks for a complete game in wich the graphics already look outdated. Dawn of war 2 was better graphics. and the terran reapers look like cheap knock-off of the DoW2 assualt marines...
I think the fact that blizz has caused so much publicity and anticipation is because they know sc2 will disappoint many fans. But they don't care, as long as we get sucked in to pay up front (which the "trilogy" idea completely proves). I think sc2 will be alot like wow: tons of gimmicks (as shown), "amazing graphics" (which suck upon closer look), and very little substance beneath it all. Looks like blizz has stopped caring about everything but their bottom line...how sad.
I couldnt agree more. My initial thoughts was it loks like wc/wow and like every other game out there now. The play style seems like command and conquer.
Besides the units and buildings looking good individually, seeing it all together is utter shit. Sad to see sc end up being like this after all this time but im still hoping for the best.
SC2's definitely going for a new look. The terran buildings look definitely too blocky, the zerg's almost cartoonish, and the protoss... the pylons definitely look unrealistic. They desperstely wanted to escape Starcraft's "bad-graphic" reputation, but personally even though I love amazing graphics Starcraft's easier graphics were less confusing and invited a larger audience, not all who had super computers.
after playing beta for a while, this game is awful, I don't think ill be paying any attention to blizzard anymore.
WoW killed the company.
Randomguy345 1 year ago
wow op looks like blizzard looked at this video now in 2010 they changed many stuff like the zealots
wedewdw 1 year ago 51
This video is spot on.
I don't understand how this game has taken so long to reach the level it is at right now, which is hardly better than Warcraft 3 from what I can see.
lucasw122333 1 year ago
All I'm gonna say is I'm not the least bit excited about SC2. Blizzard completely fucked up the Protoss.
It's like when Geoge Lucas fucked up Star Wars by mentioning in Phantom Menace that "the force" is nothing more than biological organisms.
DaveDoggOwns 1 year ago
I like this video because you can see it's made from a fan. They're not cheapshots. I agree with most of it.
Are we certain the Mothership is still in the game? They're doing changes all the time. Im sure that was just a gimmick to get people's attention. They can't keep that....can they?
I think this is going to be like Modern Warfare 2. They're going to reinvent the game to a fault. It's going to have some great aspects, and lots of content, but it won't have the heart of the first.
Lochsabre 2 years ago 91
I believe Blizzard somewhat knows of the potential fail in SC2, but what are the losses? Obviously the game will be a huge sell, so maybe ppl wont like it and stop playing and return to SC1. What has Blizzard lost? Nothing, just more money gained.
Calvin040 2 years ago
Man... I tried to explain very similar points to a friend of mine the other day... He's a new player to starcraft 1 so he didn't really understand me. (like how units won't be easily distinguishable to audiences of e-sports).
People can enjoy watching a game of starcraft and easily get into it, because the graphics aren't too complex and units were simple. It's more about tactics of the player behind the screen than the flashy gameplay...
Blizzard will fail with this I know it. makes me sad
seazer 2 years ago
starcraft 2 u lose aal micro ability , blizzard must be REALLY desperate if tthey came up with this.
35264586798 2 years ago
This comment probably wont be posted but what the hell;
I have to agree with some of the aspects and problems within the video but these are only early representations. Starcraft had many bugs and imbalances which were soon patched, because of this dedication of Blizzard and thats why it is remembered.
I have to agree that you can see individual units aswell as some other things like it taking 11 years.
Also I notice only comments against are allowed through, can we have some opinion?
antibones 2 years ago 171
I disagree - not some, ALL units and buildings look like toys.
Drameo 2 years ago
This game will be vanished in 1 year after its release. sorry to say that..... Blizzard should figure out why C&C seris don't rock in South Korea.. -from a korean player-
swatkdw 2 years ago
Let me make a prediction. This game will fail. SC2 is going to be just one of the many RTSs that are going to be forgotten in an year or two after it's release. Meanwhile in Korea SC1 is still going to be a national sport. That's the way Blizzard are going. In the end they'll end up being exactly what EA are now.
procletnic 2 years ago
They make us wait 11 years for this?! A poorly balanced, RPS style game?! Bullshit. I hated the "Age of Empires" and "Empire Earth" games for the RPS crap. Why would Blizzard do that? Well, i know what i'm not buying...
SgtScratchandSniff 2 years ago
Rest in piece blizzard, in never buying a blizzard game again. This isnt blizzard.
STarCRAFT4BRITS 2 years ago
Blizzard is a cash cow and yet they are still greedy bitches. The 3 package shit is outrageous.
defstoner18 2 years ago 65
agreed, and the fact they killed LAN, really? it's a joy to be part of bnet, using LAN for pirating would be boring, that was unnecessary, how much do they already make from WoW? me and my friends had to LAN a game at a hotel after a competition at another town because we weren't gonna each pay 10 bucks for using hotel internet for ONE NIGHT... that's bull, just bull
tencupsofwater 2 years ago
Yes, SC2 has many disadvantages, but i wonder how the fuck Blizzard can make such a crappy design of the whole game. Why they don't just add a new dimension of the good old SC1. I just can't accept that units look like lego toys.
massdestruction97 2 years ago
So, when you say you're "forced to mod comments," you mean that you were amazed to learn that there are people on the internet who disagree with you and would rather delete their comments than defend your position?
Have fun being a bitter, lonely, nerd.
Nyarlathoteplol 2 years ago 519
Sadly, we can't escape today's primary ideology for video games. This video made me realise it a lot more but what the video games are done for today seems to be mainly for graphics (of course there is still some good titles). I can understand good graphics are soothing for the eye and pleasing when fluids, but for most of us 20+(years old) casual gamers, there is much than meet the eye.
As for me most of my best game aren't modern, heck there are even some 2d game i can't give up.
Yemetha 2 years ago 18
I love starcraft, but this game just looks to plastic, like lego's. I also feel that it is very shameful for Blizzard to sell the game in 3 seperate parts.
Redtrooper2 2 years ago
blizzard was still a young company just hitting its stride with SC. War2 was the only really successful game before SC, thus blizzard had to make sure they were on their game.
While blizzard games are still good, they arent what they were. Because they know they are gonna sell a ton regardless of the content. Plus for a while now gaming has been getting dumbed down for casuals, at the cost of fun for the hardcore. Theres more money in casual gamers now. Gaming has been getting stale since 2001.
mootime 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more when I read your "Gaming has been getting stale since 2001."
The new games aren't as inovative as the old ones. They often have poor or fake (luck/character_level/simple_one_trick) difficulty.
They aren't as much games as they are interactive movies with repetitive scenes.
Unbeginner 2 years ago 30
I had high hopes for this game, but then blizzard announced this fucking trilogy bullshit, 50 bucks for 30 maps? 150 dollars total for 90 maps? Eat my dick blizzard.
Stop treating every one of your games like it's fucking world of warcraft, the idiots who play that game will gladly pay fifty bucks a year for new purplezzz, but not ALL your consumers are that retarded.
Fuck I hate new blizzard.
I just hope they don't fuck over D3 with this new found money lust they have...
PenguinDood 2 years ago 131
Starcraft2 is tipical example of overdoing and consumerism (selling the game in three different pieces for the full game price is money hunting....also they disabled the LAN thus leaving us to play multiplayer only on battlenet)
EBTcraft15 2 years ago
some people will probably get around the no-LAN with private servers or something..
but seriously? no LAN?
JuYeongLee 2 years ago 134
This is all a plot by Blizzard to make get the most players playing Starcraft II - They want to appeal to so many different audiences and thats why they added so many different features with their custom maps if you look at that video. Starcraft: Brood War was a game about simplicity and tactics - Starcraft II just seems like its all for show. They want to make the most money (releasing it in 3 parts) and they it warcraft 3 engined. Warcraft and Starcraft are not the same thing!
Himi92 2 years ago
It's flashy, looks nice, but honestly not good enough. The graphics are a tad bit better then 2003's wc3, the gameplay is very much the same, the game looks like a waste of $60 imo.
I know a lot of people will get this just becouse it's Starcraft, but I'm pretty sure I'm gana avoid this trainwreck alltogether.
Losuol 2 years ago
i hate when people thumb you down for your opinion. i too feel the same way. and if any immature kids will thumb me down simply because they dont agree with me, then so be it.
SC2 in my opinion has crap graphics. dont get me wrong, i mean the graphics and action are nice but the luster and shine makes the gameplay so convoluted. trying to see your own individual troops will be extremely difficult
BboydnL 2 years ago
I really agree with the first one. While the original Starcraft DOES look a bit simple in graphics, it's a lot simpler to play. With the new graphics, and all the effects, it looks a lot cooler, but it's a lot less practical. Why not just release a StarCraft movie if you want to do that?
zUchihaCloudz 2 years ago
The problem with all these new games is that there's too much eye candy and not enough gaming. The graphics are nice and all, but the gameplay is what really attracts the players.
catorameus 2 years ago 12
"dude, you're absolutely rite, man. SCc2 is like WOW in some ways. 100% rite!" comments will NOT be approved.
Please, try to write something meaningful. The reason your post doesn't show is because it's either full of spelling errors, or has no meaningful content.
Sinekyre14 2 years ago
Ever since WoW came out Blizzard is no longer the Blizzard we once new. So you all have to get used to the new Blizzard and their new not so epic games.
mindlesstube 2 years ago 13
Honestly, I think Starcraft 2 is going to be Warcraft 3 with different visuals. All it's lacking is hero units. I doubt with the WC3-esque game engine they are using will they be able to compete with SC1 in terms of the ability to micro and control units. It's factual that more micro is put into play in SC than WC3
sedhrw 2 years ago
more micro in SC than WC3? r u crazy? i play both games a lot. WC3 has more micro approach. But SC has more macro approach. I am not saying SC doesnt have micro, it just has less then WC3.
slivovich 2 years ago 17
Can I just say that SC is a game that I, to this date, still play competitvely among my friends. SC2 Will never have the same playability the way it is headed. What can we do as a community to fix this and get what we want out of this game?
zoikie99 2 years ago
It's like Blizzard was thinking, "If it worked for WoW then it will work for StarCraft 2".
Referring of course to the animations and the whole release-in-parts thing.
shamHuD 2 years ago 20
You missed one main problem with SC2 :
Separating the game into 3 different games and selling each for same price. Now that's fcked up. And you'd think they had enough money from WoW.
ProfessaBojangles1 2 years ago 37
I agree with the animation.. it looks too cartoony, I was trying to explain this to my friends about how even though SC was in 2-D it looked more realistic than SC2. Have you seen the vespene geysers yet? it looks pathetic... I really hope Blizzard addresses these but it is doubtful that they will
finchisgod 2 years ago 20
Bill Roper come back to Blizzard...
ColdbloodedJuggalo 2 years ago 46
Like every damn RTS, the game will be too flashy, cartoon...etc.. :\
I'm not sure i'll buy the game now..
Borisslavosk 2 years ago 18
finall a place where someone is open-minded and realize the truth. it really is too flashy and cartoonish, wtf is this crap.
TheSinfulChild 2 years ago
too much warcraft in blizard games --> SC2, D3 ;/
Grela2 2 years ago 39
Does anyone else see a resemblance in zealots and male draeneis from WoW? They kinda move alike too...
edmundpau 2 years ago 16
when I first saw starcraft 2, I thought it was warcraft with different units. I seriously think starcraft2 lost it's characteristics and originality (the speed of the game and the micro skills, for example)
Well, I hope it becomes better though since i'm a sc fan :P
eugene901 2 years ago 8
actually i am also worried about the speed of the game. when i watch games played by like sonkie and yellow or whatever, i find it will be like 8 min into the game and they only got like something u might have 4 or 5 min in sc 1.
Lucky466 2 years ago 13
It seems more like a command and Conquer game instead of sc2
Em0Haircut 2 years ago 22
To be honest, I dont really mind Starcraft 2 but they tried to over do themselves and make everything look cool. Whos goin to spend money on 3 games to play 1 thing? I most likely wont purchase sc2 until they decrease the prices
TrIgg3r1733 2 years ago 32
wow. thanks for this video. Not so sure I want starcraft 2 anymore. Looks like blizzard made it way too cartoonish.
EvilGothGuy 2 years ago 12
They tried to work the damn 3-D into the gameplay way too much
joeber17 2 years ago 19
this new version looks terrible! is this really going to be the new game?
globaldome 2 years ago 5
Good to see I'm not the only person that has a very bad feeling about this game. There's just seems to be no originality in the units as there was in SC1. And the graphics of WC3 may actually be better than those in this game. I think the economy has caused Vivendi to force Blizzard to make a cash cow game without the usual Blizzard ingenuity.
BillyBawb 2 years ago 29
A consumer with a brain. Someone, alert the media! Don't you know that:
Companies exist solely to exploit the consumer and squeeze money out of us - that's how it's supposed to be. You don't have any right to complain! Blizzard are doing us a favor by collecting our hard earned money. Thank you, Blizzard executives! =P
Sinekyre14 2 years ago
i've read that the trilogy campaign will be released over a course of time. First campaign comes out then a month or 2 later the second and then the final one 2 months after that. and every campaign will cost around 50 bucks. So basicly your paying 150 buck for a complete game... I refuse to pay 150 bucks for a complete game in wich the graphics already look outdated. Dawn of war 2 was better graphics. and the terran reapers look like cheap knock-off of the DoW2 assualt marines...
Relinquished3000 2 years ago
I think the fact that blizz has caused so much publicity and anticipation is because they know sc2 will disappoint many fans. But they don't care, as long as we get sucked in to pay up front (which the "trilogy" idea completely proves). I think sc2 will be alot like wow: tons of gimmicks (as shown), "amazing graphics" (which suck upon closer look), and very little substance beneath it all. Looks like blizz has stopped caring about everything but their bottom line...how sad.
evillecaston 2 years ago
I would have to agree I have a strong fealing I am going to be really disappointed with this game, the marines and siege tanks alone make me sick
Templarzealot89 2 years ago
the new zerg hatchery looks like something I made out of play dough.
mickbey 2 years ago 29
WoW is killing future Blizzard game designs.
svperstar 2 years ago 340
I couldnt agree more. My initial thoughts was it loks like wc/wow and like every other game out there now. The play style seems like command and conquer.
Besides the units and buildings looking good individually, seeing it all together is utter shit. Sad to see sc end up being like this after all this time but im still hoping for the best.
djle47 2 years ago 3
SC2's definitely going for a new look. The terran buildings look definitely too blocky, the zerg's almost cartoonish, and the protoss... the pylons definitely look unrealistic. They desperstely wanted to escape Starcraft's "bad-graphic" reputation, but personally even though I love amazing graphics Starcraft's easier graphics were less confusing and invited a larger audience, not all who had super computers.
rlatjdwls94 2 years ago 22
Please, please Blizzard, hear my plea. Keep World of Warcraft in its own game. I don't want my carriers to look like they got pimped out in Shat'trath. I want tanks that look like they came out of hell, not Toy's R' Us. And I want my hydralisk armies to haunt my opponents in their sleep, not make them laugh their ass off. The Starcraft community is NOT the WoW community, we aren't 12 years old! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PATCH THESE MODELS!!!!!!!!!!!
Quiverborn 2 years ago 77
All of the Terran units and buildings look like they were made with LEGO blocks.
Chrisgopher64 2 years ago 33
And the zerg structures no longer have that gooey look. Now they look like they're made of rubber...
NYtassu 2 years ago 26
Nothing in the units's design looks good to me in Starcraft 2
LuciTulcea 2 years ago
Seriously, if blizzard sees this (and I hope they do) I hope they take it seriously because i've been hoping for SC2 since i was a kid. This would just ruin the game. I HATE warcraft and WOW for all the reasons listed below and the future ones above. The way this game is going is basically an interactive cartoon movie that doesn't make sense. Really dissapointing so far. BLIZZARD was a company I looked up to in the past now they are just sellouts and want to make as much money as possible. SAD
Rimctto 2 years ago 21
Zerg buildings look like candy 8D and creep looks like spiderweb
Munkatten 2 years ago 8
What I'm saying is that the graphics aren't as enjoyable as Starcraft BW.
wc1hater 2 years ago 8
I agree regarding the look of the game.. the units look like they're from warcraft, or toys.. kinda reminds me with how they handled the new diablo... they made it too... "clean" or "kiddy"..
imitator101 2 years ago
I say we all boycott sc2 until blizzard basically starts the graphics/style from scratch and attempts to implement some of the original sc1 gameplay. Wc3 makes me nauseated. D2 I didn't like either. D3 I am not going to buy. I heard that most of the team that had the creative input on the original starcraft left blizzard a while back.
Chal0099 2 years ago
I very much agree with the not-so easily identified units part. I think lately RTS games have been wretchedly flashly, glossy and bright. Also, one of the beauties of SC:BW is that ANY computer can handle running the game. I DESPISE lag and poor frame rate in RTS games. Oh and I don't like the new units at all either. I totally agree with starcraft not being a game of rock paper scissors.
Jules72Bear 2 years ago
Yeah! I think blizzard is engaged in so many projects at same time that maybe they aren't using just new Ideas... copying a lot of things of other games and stuff. There are people that are not happy with the new Diablo III graphics, saying that they look like World of Warcraft. And speaking of WoW, anyone here have compared the Protoss Colossus to the Marsh creature that spawns in Zangarmarsh? They look EXACTLY the same. oO
keijinbr 3 years ago
"Starcraft 2 has great potential, but as witht he announcement of Starcraft, Blizzard has to listen to the community who made Starcraft what it is" YES!! btw i agree with like 80% of what you said. Starcraft 2 does look horrible, and i hope that blizzard does not release Starcraft 2 that looks anything like this.
DeSTRoYeR992 3 years ago
The unit just look like plastic toy.
Astorlia 3 years ago
I'm agree with Loseminole, it really doesn't feel like Starcraft, it's too overloaded with so many unnecessary stuff.
PatoPatoEloElo 3 years ago
Can we like make a petition and send it to the makers of star craft to bring to their attention that we really don't like the direction the game is going?
Zwartekaka 3 years ago
i dont think blizzard even cares about this game -.- they're copying other games, and 100 yr old books(like wtf). they're seeling the game in 3 pieces, AND it looks like C&C which is fucking shit -.- seriously it has no friends
Seach0 3 years ago
I wish blizzard watched this....
And im aggreeing with you, it looks like tetris...more like blocks.. like they've used the models from Wc3, remade them a bit and used the same options as in SC1
Ericosproduction 3 years ago
I think starcraft 2 isn't gonna be a big success because it will compete with SC1. All those animations will be interesting to watch at the begaining but once we are used to it, they will only get in the way. You want to keep some playability if you want a game to last. If they are only concerned about advancing the universe of starcraft, why not make annother kind of game. It's bit sad blizzard decided not to finnish starcraft ghost.
Tamizushi 3 years ago 45
I SEE TOYS!!!
rofl Ghosts head looks like a transformers,and whats with his gun?looks like it needs to be waaaaay shorter,and he looks like a failed experiment on humans,i mean look at those muscles(or whatever that is)the Ghost should look like a normal,intelligent member of the terrans.the Collossuses light really confuses,but its name is COLOSSUS so its meant to be bulky and what the hell is happening from 4:06 to 4:23
Grtae4 3 years ago 10
I can agree with the comment that a tank looks like a toy... I was noticed that in fact maybe a whole terran race looks like from a Toy Story movie... It's a shame, that a i specialist, thick and thin ghost, looks now like some shitty hybrid with some pipes comin' from his head or something... He's fat now, and looses estetic reputation of powerful and inteligent unit.
heavypeki 3 years ago 11
the problem with rock paper scissors gameplay is simple.. just look at command & conquer 3 (pre KW).. it was all down to the luck of what build you chose, if 1 unit alone is the best way to counter something then it just becomes luck of which build order is more approriate.. and to easy to keep control of the game..
and i agree with this video, thor (though very cool) will i think be quite useless as will the mothership.
i suspect pro's will tone down graphics to make it easy to see units :).
jaynemesis 3 years ago 11
this game dosnt feel like starcraft... they have to get rid of the units having stupid advantages over another... or else it beecomes pointless and loses the starcraft feel
GFLOSEMINOLE 3 years ago 12
I'll with a lot of people here, I'll end up back on SCI after a little bit of play on here. I also dislike how they are three different parts of the game to buy.
paniccat 3 years ago 13
i hope blizzard gets a good associate 3d artist that will make a second quality to the game called 'competitive animation' which will revert to more of a SC1 feel where you can see the units better, and run the game smoother cause if people are still lagging in SC1 then SC2 is gonna suck :O
anyways ya... they need a second version of animation and models
122333pls 3 years ago 12
Havent played it yet and i can already say i dont like it and ill most likley be sticking to Starcraft 1
RealXidious 3 years ago
I agree, SC2 looks way cartoony and too much like WC3
lin2k4 3 years ago 17
Blizzard is becoming like EA...
phoenix1333 3 years ago 56
Honestly, I haven't been excited for SC2 ever since I heard who the lead designer was. Dustin Brower is doing the lead design for the game, he also did work and Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 and LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth. And... I hated both those games. A name wont make a game good. The people behind the game are left to make it good. So, all in all... I'll try SC2 out when it launches. But, I suspect it'll be a week before I wanna pop SC1 back in.
kefka2589 3 years ago 13
Thanks for this interesting information. I think future gamers will be better off if they stay informed like you have, and don't just give into hype and buy crap games because some company could "get away with it".
Blizzard needs to be called out on this massive failure. The fact that they hired a guy from C&C explains why the game looks the way it does.
Sinekyre14 3 years ago
Hehe thanks for the video post. I was interested in seeing some more about SC2, and this answered pretty much all I wanted to know :3
Blizzard has kinda gone down the drain. Blizzard has one of the highest turn over rates in the video game industry anymore. Plus, their merging with Activision kinda makes me think they're going to lean more towards casual gamers now. In my eyes the Blizzard I loved for so long is dead. /cry
kefka2589 3 years ago
I completely agree with you, Kefka. These were things I was also afraid of and now see that have become a reality. Well I guess nothing good lasts forever. Thanks for the post and news, Sin!
Amaximumace 3 years ago
starcraft looks more like a survival game the new one looks CHEAP!
heavymusic1scool 3 years ago
wtf please tell me there are gonna be dragoons and high templars or im gonna stick to bw forever lol
BoywondeR338 3 years ago 5
gamplay OMG. there is no gameplay in SC2 it is aimed at shallow 7-14 yo kids who like the shiny colours many movements on the screen! as someone else beforme me put it SC2 is a big PUKE - blizzard have huge resources and when you have that you forget about creativity! had they had scarce resources like they did in the early days they would have used them in a creative way...
boombasticov 3 years ago 22
I think that some of you are right. Units are hard to distinguish during the fight but thanks to a good graphic, battles are more realistic (war = chaos; watch "Saving private Rayan"). Blizz sholud take whole Starcraft 1 ang chage viual side of it. The system of structures and units was optimal in S1.
MrStanislav 3 years ago 14
the mutalisks looked like the Gargoyles from W3
crazydudetz 3 years ago 29
Blizzard are Screwed, They put all their eggs in 1 basket (WOW) now it's dieing, There trying to pull strings by Creating SC2 to keep themselves alive. Although 98% of everything Blizzard creates is Ninja'd, It's only a matter of time. Like Beth creating Fallout 3 under the guise of 'For the Fans' but it's just an excuse to try and keep their Company alive. (It was only for the oblivion community and Xbox kids) . . .
God developers have gone to @_*##_* these days.
Malndor 3 years ago
what is wrong with sc2 is called
MBS, and automine
YorkeKin 3 years ago 6
Blizzard executives are milking the fans and showing their true colors because Starcraft 2 failed. Look at Valve's "The Orange Box", where you get Half Life 2, ep.1 and ep.2, Portal and Team Fortress 2 for the price of one game. That's five times the value of Blizzards package.
If you have any respect for yourself at all, you'll avoid buying these three "story segments". There's a website out there called PIRATE BAY. Go there. Don't be consumer cattle, please don't put up with this scam.
Sinekyre14 3 years ago 2
im going to download this game...3 CDs for a full game...too expensive
Tajudine 2 years ago 26
the biggest thing i'm worried about is that they'll put in a rock-paper-scissors like in AoE games. Starcraft was more about micro and how you used your units not, "they have light infantry, therefore, i must make cavalry".
i think rock-paper-scissors is why i get bored of AoE games but never with Starcraft
swimjim475 3 years ago 52
I think the main reason Blizz loves the new simple cartoonish element in their artstyle is that it gives them an excuse to "lower" the graphic requirements of it's future games. Lower comp specs have been a mainstay in blizz games and a good marketing tool for them for years.
undeadnightorc 3 years ago 65
Yep this gonna be warcraft 4 and diablo 3 (crying) its gonna be wow2.
2192productions 3 years ago
Main thing is the Blizzard developer have been playing too much WOW thats why everything they make looks like WOW. The Protoss now looks more like NightElf, I mean where's the armor? why he have to wear robe that primitive. The reaper unit is so fucking stupid, he hold pistols that can blast stuff up??? and hes a TRAINED! criminal(wow cant get that creative). The Zergs now looks like some WOW mobs. So yeah...you can say that they were smoking pots and play WOW when they design this garbage
akira357 3 years ago
My main agreement is about that micromanagement may become redundant, which is what made the original so competitive, it was rather easy to pick up as an RTS, but difficult to master unless you really practised micromanagement. I think it may become too easy and be more about shoveling out fast units as opposed to build order, conserving resources, etc. The original had so many possibilities, you could pull back from having nothing if you're clever, but most of the micro seems done for you.
Bluer123 3 years ago 57
Is anyone else having a problem clearly seeing what is happening in battles? There`s too much animation and too much color and shades.. I just find it really hard to tell units apart with everything they`ve added.
jmattbassplaya90 3 years ago 120
The first thing I thought when I saw the Colossus was that it looked like the WotW tripods. There are so many things that I'm afraid will spoil Starcraft completely. I had the same opinions about goofy looking buildings like the new barracks, and alot of the units looking rediculously cartoonish, but another thing that bothers the hell out of me is the new dialog voices. Old sc sounded awesome. Every single unit had a feared voice. Find a demo vid, listen to new terran units. They sound homo. :(
ManicRevelation 3 years ago
I hate what blizz have done with SC2. its really really cartoony. WC and WoW are cartoony, and fair enough it works. but SC was more serious, more dark and kinda gothy. Id like to see that return to SC2.
DefconBravo 3 years ago 16
Great video Sine. You know I can't understand Blizzard either. From an ethical point of view, they should listen to real fans who really know this game. From financial point of view, casual gamers are not competitive so they usually do not play multiplayer. This means the life-span is shortened of SC 2. I think you already see my point : Blizzard is making a huge mistake both ethically and financially....How come they don't see it?
Szederp 3 years ago
I hope someone from blizzards see's this and so this game doesn't become War4. Or some alien version of Age of Mythology. Bc that's what this game is starting to remind me of. If you all want an Enemy make it EA. EA wants to rule of the gaming world. They kill quality and make quantity. Sadly thats where I think blizzard might be going. I'm just gonna hope Diablo 3 is messed up. Least it still looks promising.
XxTheMadnessxX 3 years ago 37
after playing beta for a while, this game is awful, I don't think ill be paying any attention to blizzard anymore.
WoW killed the company.
Randomguy345 1 year ago
wow op looks like blizzard looked at this video now in 2010 they changed many stuff like the zealots
wedewdw 1 year ago 51
This video is spot on.
I don't understand how this game has taken so long to reach the level it is at right now, which is hardly better than Warcraft 3 from what I can see.
lucasw122333 1 year ago
All I'm gonna say is I'm not the least bit excited about SC2. Blizzard completely fucked up the Protoss.
It's like when Geoge Lucas fucked up Star Wars by mentioning in Phantom Menace that "the force" is nothing more than biological organisms.
DaveDoggOwns 1 year ago
I like this video because you can see it's made from a fan. They're not cheapshots. I agree with most of it.
Are we certain the Mothership is still in the game? They're doing changes all the time. Im sure that was just a gimmick to get people's attention. They can't keep that....can they?
I think this is going to be like Modern Warfare 2. They're going to reinvent the game to a fault. It's going to have some great aspects, and lots of content, but it won't have the heart of the first.
Lochsabre 2 years ago 91
I believe Blizzard somewhat knows of the potential fail in SC2, but what are the losses? Obviously the game will be a huge sell, so maybe ppl wont like it and stop playing and return to SC1. What has Blizzard lost? Nothing, just more money gained.
Calvin040 2 years ago
Man... I tried to explain very similar points to a friend of mine the other day... He's a new player to starcraft 1 so he didn't really understand me. (like how units won't be easily distinguishable to audiences of e-sports).
People can enjoy watching a game of starcraft and easily get into it, because the graphics aren't too complex and units were simple. It's more about tactics of the player behind the screen than the flashy gameplay...
Blizzard will fail with this I know it. makes me sad
seazer 2 years ago
starcraft 2 u lose aal micro ability , blizzard must be REALLY desperate if tthey came up with this.
35264586798 2 years ago
This comment probably wont be posted but what the hell;
I have to agree with some of the aspects and problems within the video but these are only early representations. Starcraft had many bugs and imbalances which were soon patched, because of this dedication of Blizzard and thats why it is remembered.
I have to agree that you can see individual units aswell as some other things like it taking 11 years.
Also I notice only comments against are allowed through, can we have some opinion?
antibones 2 years ago 171
I disagree - not some, ALL units and buildings look like toys.
Drameo 2 years ago
This game will be vanished in 1 year after its release. sorry to say that..... Blizzard should figure out why C&C seris don't rock in South Korea.. -from a korean player-
swatkdw 2 years ago
Let me make a prediction. This game will fail. SC2 is going to be just one of the many RTSs that are going to be forgotten in an year or two after it's release. Meanwhile in Korea SC1 is still going to be a national sport. That's the way Blizzard are going. In the end they'll end up being exactly what EA are now.
procletnic 2 years ago
They make us wait 11 years for this?! A poorly balanced, RPS style game?! Bullshit. I hated the "Age of Empires" and "Empire Earth" games for the RPS crap. Why would Blizzard do that? Well, i know what i'm not buying...
SgtScratchandSniff 2 years ago
Rest in piece blizzard, in never buying a blizzard game again. This isnt blizzard.
STarCRAFT4BRITS 2 years ago
Blizzard is a cash cow and yet they are still greedy bitches. The 3 package shit is outrageous.
defstoner18 2 years ago 65
agreed, and the fact they killed LAN, really? it's a joy to be part of bnet, using LAN for pirating would be boring, that was unnecessary, how much do they already make from WoW? me and my friends had to LAN a game at a hotel after a competition at another town because we weren't gonna each pay 10 bucks for using hotel internet for ONE NIGHT... that's bull, just bull
tencupsofwater 2 years ago
Yes, SC2 has many disadvantages, but i wonder how the fuck Blizzard can make such a crappy design of the whole game. Why they don't just add a new dimension of the good old SC1. I just can't accept that units look like lego toys.
massdestruction97 2 years ago
So, when you say you're "forced to mod comments," you mean that you were amazed to learn that there are people on the internet who disagree with you and would rather delete their comments than defend your position?
Have fun being a bitter, lonely, nerd.
Nyarlathoteplol 2 years ago 519
Sadly, we can't escape today's primary ideology for video games. This video made me realise it a lot more but what the video games are done for today seems to be mainly for graphics (of course there is still some good titles). I can understand good graphics are soothing for the eye and pleasing when fluids, but for most of us 20+(years old) casual gamers, there is much than meet the eye.
As for me most of my best game aren't modern, heck there are even some 2d game i can't give up.
Yemetha 2 years ago 18
I love starcraft, but this game just looks to plastic, like lego's. I also feel that it is very shameful for Blizzard to sell the game in 3 seperate parts.
Redtrooper2 2 years ago
blizzard was still a young company just hitting its stride with SC. War2 was the only really successful game before SC, thus blizzard had to make sure they were on their game.
While blizzard games are still good, they arent what they were. Because they know they are gonna sell a ton regardless of the content. Plus for a while now gaming has been getting dumbed down for casuals, at the cost of fun for the hardcore. Theres more money in casual gamers now. Gaming has been getting stale since 2001.
mootime 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more when I read your "Gaming has been getting stale since 2001."
The new games aren't as inovative as the old ones. They often have poor or fake (luck/character_level/simple_one_trick) difficulty.
They aren't as much games as they are interactive movies with repetitive scenes.
Unbeginner 2 years ago 30
I had high hopes for this game, but then blizzard announced this fucking trilogy bullshit, 50 bucks for 30 maps? 150 dollars total for 90 maps? Eat my dick blizzard.
Stop treating every one of your games like it's fucking world of warcraft, the idiots who play that game will gladly pay fifty bucks a year for new purplezzz, but not ALL your consumers are that retarded.
Fuck I hate new blizzard.
I just hope they don't fuck over D3 with this new found money lust they have...
PenguinDood 2 years ago 131
Starcraft2 is tipical example of overdoing and consumerism (selling the game in three different pieces for the full game price is money hunting....also they disabled the LAN thus leaving us to play multiplayer only on battlenet)
EBTcraft15 2 years ago
some people will probably get around the no-LAN with private servers or something..
but seriously? no LAN?
JuYeongLee 2 years ago 134
This is all a plot by Blizzard to make get the most players playing Starcraft II - They want to appeal to so many different audiences and thats why they added so many different features with their custom maps if you look at that video. Starcraft: Brood War was a game about simplicity and tactics - Starcraft II just seems like its all for show. They want to make the most money (releasing it in 3 parts) and they it warcraft 3 engined. Warcraft and Starcraft are not the same thing!
Himi92 2 years ago
It's flashy, looks nice, but honestly not good enough. The graphics are a tad bit better then 2003's wc3, the gameplay is very much the same, the game looks like a waste of $60 imo.
I know a lot of people will get this just becouse it's Starcraft, but I'm pretty sure I'm gana avoid this trainwreck alltogether.
Losuol 2 years ago
i hate when people thumb you down for your opinion. i too feel the same way. and if any immature kids will thumb me down simply because they dont agree with me, then so be it.
SC2 in my opinion has crap graphics. dont get me wrong, i mean the graphics and action are nice but the luster and shine makes the gameplay so convoluted. trying to see your own individual troops will be extremely difficult
BboydnL 2 years ago
I really agree with the first one. While the original Starcraft DOES look a bit simple in graphics, it's a lot simpler to play. With the new graphics, and all the effects, it looks a lot cooler, but it's a lot less practical. Why not just release a StarCraft movie if you want to do that?
zUchihaCloudz 2 years ago
The problem with all these new games is that there's too much eye candy and not enough gaming. The graphics are nice and all, but the gameplay is what really attracts the players.
catorameus 2 years ago 12
"dude, you're absolutely rite, man. SCc2 is like WOW in some ways. 100% rite!" comments will NOT be approved.
Please, try to write something meaningful. The reason your post doesn't show is because it's either full of spelling errors, or has no meaningful content.
Sinekyre14 2 years ago
Ever since WoW came out Blizzard is no longer the Blizzard we once new. So you all have to get used to the new Blizzard and their new not so epic games.
mindlesstube 2 years ago 13
Honestly, I think Starcraft 2 is going to be Warcraft 3 with different visuals. All it's lacking is hero units. I doubt with the WC3-esque game engine they are using will they be able to compete with SC1 in terms of the ability to micro and control units. It's factual that more micro is put into play in SC than WC3
sedhrw 2 years ago
more micro in SC than WC3? r u crazy? i play both games a lot. WC3 has more micro approach. But SC has more macro approach. I am not saying SC doesnt have micro, it just has less then WC3.
slivovich 2 years ago 17
Can I just say that SC is a game that I, to this date, still play competitvely among my friends. SC2 Will never have the same playability the way it is headed. What can we do as a community to fix this and get what we want out of this game?
zoikie99 2 years ago
It's like Blizzard was thinking, "If it worked for WoW then it will work for StarCraft 2".
Referring of course to the animations and the whole release-in-parts thing.
shamHuD 2 years ago 20
You missed one main problem with SC2 :
Separating the game into 3 different games and selling each for same price. Now that's fcked up. And you'd think they had enough money from WoW.
ProfessaBojangles1 2 years ago 37
I agree with the animation.. it looks too cartoony, I was trying to explain this to my friends about how even though SC was in 2-D it looked more realistic than SC2. Have you seen the vespene geysers yet? it looks pathetic... I really hope Blizzard addresses these but it is doubtful that they will
finchisgod 2 years ago 20
Bill Roper come back to Blizzard...
ColdbloodedJuggalo 2 years ago 46
Like every damn RTS, the game will be too flashy, cartoon...etc.. :\
I'm not sure i'll buy the game now..
Borisslavosk 2 years ago 18
finall a place where someone is open-minded and realize the truth. it really is too flashy and cartoonish, wtf is this crap.
TheSinfulChild 2 years ago
too much warcraft in blizard games --> SC2, D3 ;/
Grela2 2 years ago 39
Does anyone else see a resemblance in zealots and male draeneis from WoW? They kinda move alike too...
edmundpau 2 years ago 16
when I first saw starcraft 2, I thought it was warcraft with different units. I seriously think starcraft2 lost it's characteristics and originality (the speed of the game and the micro skills, for example)
Well, I hope it becomes better though since i'm a sc fan :P
eugene901 2 years ago 8
actually i am also worried about the speed of the game. when i watch games played by like sonkie and yellow or whatever, i find it will be like 8 min into the game and they only got like something u might have 4 or 5 min in sc 1.
Lucky466 2 years ago 13
It seems more like a command and Conquer game instead of sc2
Em0Haircut 2 years ago 22
To be honest, I dont really mind Starcraft 2 but they tried to over do themselves and make everything look cool. Whos goin to spend money on 3 games to play 1 thing? I most likely wont purchase sc2 until they decrease the prices
TrIgg3r1733 2 years ago 32
wow. thanks for this video. Not so sure I want starcraft 2 anymore. Looks like blizzard made it way too cartoonish.
EvilGothGuy 2 years ago 12
They tried to work the damn 3-D into the gameplay way too much
joeber17 2 years ago 19
this new version looks terrible! is this really going to be the new game?
globaldome 2 years ago 5
Good to see I'm not the only person that has a very bad feeling about this game. There's just seems to be no originality in the units as there was in SC1. And the graphics of WC3 may actually be better than those in this game. I think the economy has caused Vivendi to force Blizzard to make a cash cow game without the usual Blizzard ingenuity.
BillyBawb 2 years ago 29
A consumer with a brain. Someone, alert the media! Don't you know that:
Companies exist solely to exploit the consumer and squeeze money out of us - that's how it's supposed to be. You don't have any right to complain! Blizzard are doing us a favor by collecting our hard earned money. Thank you, Blizzard executives! =P
Sinekyre14 2 years ago
i've read that the trilogy campaign will be released over a course of time. First campaign comes out then a month or 2 later the second and then the final one 2 months after that. and every campaign will cost around 50 bucks. So basicly your paying 150 buck for a complete game... I refuse to pay 150 bucks for a complete game in wich the graphics already look outdated. Dawn of war 2 was better graphics. and the terran reapers look like cheap knock-off of the DoW2 assualt marines...
Relinquished3000 2 years ago
I think the fact that blizz has caused so much publicity and anticipation is because they know sc2 will disappoint many fans. But they don't care, as long as we get sucked in to pay up front (which the "trilogy" idea completely proves). I think sc2 will be alot like wow: tons of gimmicks (as shown), "amazing graphics" (which suck upon closer look), and very little substance beneath it all. Looks like blizz has stopped caring about everything but their bottom line...how sad.
evillecaston 2 years ago
I would have to agree I have a strong fealing I am going to be really disappointed with this game, the marines and siege tanks alone make me sick
Templarzealot89 2 years ago
the new zerg hatchery looks like something I made out of play dough.
mickbey 2 years ago 29
WoW is killing future Blizzard game designs.
svperstar 2 years ago 340
I couldnt agree more. My initial thoughts was it loks like wc/wow and like every other game out there now. The play style seems like command and conquer.
Besides the units and buildings looking good individually, seeing it all together is utter shit. Sad to see sc end up being like this after all this time but im still hoping for the best.
djle47 2 years ago 3
SC2's definitely going for a new look. The terran buildings look definitely too blocky, the zerg's almost cartoonish, and the protoss... the pylons definitely look unrealistic. They desperstely wanted to escape Starcraft's "bad-graphic" reputation, but personally even though I love amazing graphics Starcraft's easier graphics were less confusing and invited a larger audience, not all who had super computers.
rlatjdwls94 2 years ago 22