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  • How about mods?

  • @TheUnknownHarbingers I don't think so. Steam and D2D will not stand for this competition (if it works, but most sources say it doesn't), neither will Microsoft or Sony...I'd like to see them try to get Nintendo agree to this shit, probably not, or any otherJapanese company for that matter (eg Sony). Nope, Microsoft is got its next console lined up, so does Sony, and Nintendo. Direct2Drive and Steam will continue to dominate the PC market.

  • Try before you buy, by the way you cannot possibly drive on online when you see him driving every turn he crashes and spins out oh and they got a server right at the showcase

  • new games r gonna come out right?

  • controller looks like the 360?

  • its only $50 just once so eat it Microsoft im buying one right away

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  • @YousufBayoumi You sir WIN cause your correct. Pc gamer's surely wont get used to this cause its notting like the PC gaming experience i mean like you have to have the CD or download from steam etc.

    Console gamer's might as well go to Onlive and Onlive will maybe beat Xboxlive and PSN

    BUT NEVER cause we have demo's,we dont have to pay fees for online gaming only for the internet,WE KEEP are games,and it would really hard to just transfer to another strange THING of a console.

  • Its the future !! cheaper for ppl and this company will make a lots of money what else ? so other companys more competitive will be created ... So f***k up Nvidia for this graphic cars at 600$ for during 3 years . With that, you will bought game ... and keep as your screen as can stay alive !!!! bye bye sheeps

  • w0w 10 years ago i was like hard on getting games..but Now..Oh my Gosh is this video saying that this is what the FUTURE is..Oh hell, the future rocks!!

  • A new video card every 2-3 years... You pay more for this service then you do upgrading your card every 2-3 years. Service starts at $14.95 per month. 12 x $14.95 = $179.40. Thats every year. A Decent card costs around $200-$300 bucks and you need to change it every 2-3 years. So for 2.5 years of service of onlive will cost you $448.50.

    You make the choice, this kind of Onlive service is the next generation of gaming. It also comes out tomorrow "June 17th 2010".

  • @IRusskie Are you kidding me? I've had the same video card for 5 years and it's fine.

  • @IRusskie well + new CPU add more RAM games HDD motherboard. it gets u more then 300$ per 3-2 years. But u dont need to buy all that. U can just buy a new GPU and just play on low. for 400$for 2 years: maxed out graphics,no need of new software.
  • @BiggestTwoNoobs you obviously dont have a gaming computer and if you did you would know that one lasts you a couple years without the need to upgrade.

  • @IRusskie well if your going to upgrade only graphics over 3 years then...

    its not going to run games at max,which onlive would.

    and couple of years,i think thats about 3 years.

  • @IRusskie if this could work with console games, then you don't have to buy a PS3 AND a 360 AND a Wii AND a new computer. thats a savings of a lot of $

  • i hope the online is free and at 2:14 is he using an xbox 360 controller???

  • @Platinum9611 atm.. you can only use that interface

  • hehe, I got in for a year free with a free game, woot!

  • Guess what? It's not as revolutionary as you think. Since people aren't going to buy computers anymore because of this, what happens when the Onlive service is postponed for a few months? What will happen when you don't buy computers? Lets see, computer prices will skyrocket. Oh yeah, what did I forget? The internet issue. This service will chew up HUNDREDS of GIGABYTES of bandwidth per person, so broadband WILL get less reliable and more expensive. Don't forget how you still have to buy games.

  • mouse and keyboard?

  • Man i cant wait for this just a month away from now

    i hope i have the specs for this lol i heard you can play it on a crap pc

    i have

    Gigabyte S Gaming Mb

    Nvdia Geforce 7600Gs

    Amd Quad Core Cpu Runs At 2.8 GHZ Per Core

    1.5 gb ram i Might Need more

    and 7Mbs Internet Speed

    so i think im good lol

  • @tolow16 i dont think ur system matters all that much thats good enough probly for sure but ur internet connection is wat really matters.... they say a 5mb/s is good enough for hd cuz remember its streaming alllllll the data to ur pc... i would say u more then likely hav at least that and u only need 1.5mb/s for standard definition which u will hav if u hav cable

  • @qewbert your right i was looking at there website they said all u really need at is 1.5 mbs for sd and 5 mbs for hd so i look at my speed i have 12 mbs

    but i heard if your sharing the network it'll cause a problem

    my question is can u play offline mutiplayer you know like two controllers at once?

  • @tolow16 my GUESS would be yes but it wont change much u still need internet to stream the game because the game doesnt even exist locally on ur hard drive or on a disk like a regular game even if u were playing single player campaign and there not gonna make u pay full price for a game like say call of duty and let u ONLY play online without the campaign and splitscreen or local :)

  • i think this is guna take some time to get popular

  • If it uses bluetooth for wireless pads can I use my ps3 controller?

  • So you have to buy the game for PC and then this onlive thing let's you play them with better graphics gameplay?? So I could get gears of war on PC and play it on onlive? And you only pay monthly subscription for 15 pounds? This sounds really good

  • so if we want to play it we need to be in the usa , what if we changed ower ip??

  • how much is that box going to be ?????

  • @Travide

    gonna be a set price for the box and a monthly subscription of $14.95 but im in the UK so we wont have it for a while, personally i hate this thing, i love going to the store and buying a physical copy of a game, i hate the idea of a totally buffering console.

  • This is definitely revolutionary. This will allow those who cannot afford 1000$+ computers to play the newest games. Apparently, someone with an aged computer that has 800mhz CPU could essentially play Crysis on high with 60fps avg. Also, this may nearly obliterate hacking on Onlive only servers, how awesome would that be!?

  • @WithinReach2 Just a $140 non-gaming laptop for this!

  • maybe this will be succesful but it won't kill consoles, because not every country will have access to it or and not every country has 50 mbps of connection max.

  • Just announced this is 15$ per month plus the cost of whatever game Or games you buy so in the long run its amazingly cheaper to just have a PS3/360 and just pay for the game at game stop and it wont cost you an extra 15$ a month

  • Yea but tons of people pay almost the same price to play only !!! 1 !!! game for example: World of Warcraft

    Its like you're a warcraft fan and pay the same price for hundreds of warcraft games at the same time everything will get much easier. also the games will be cheaper tu buy because the publisher hasn't to copy it

  • @Videobaschtl33 its 15 $ a month plus the 60$ for each game you buy in the long run its way more expensive than what you would pay for having just the actual consel and going out and paying for the game

  • @XxRaN96xX the games are cheaper because they dont have to make physical copies

  • @hokagealex the games are cheaper for them maybe but not for us do the math dude your paying 15$ a month plus 60$ for each game its more expensive for the buyer plus if you cancel your service you lose all your games

  • @XxRaN96xX uhh dude who the heck cant make 180$ a year??? plus the games will be less than 60 dollars because there is no physical distribution which means they dont have to pay for disc or disc cases. and even if you dont wanna buy the games you could still rent them on onlive which will save you alot of money man.

  • @hokagealex no its been stated that premium games will be 60$ its just how if you buy a used game at gamestop without the case or manual you are still charged the same amount for the game if it did have the manual or case it consumerism at its worst and your pretty much playing right into their pocket

  • @XxRaN96xX they never stated the price of the games for onlive. take it like this dude. when a new game comes out you can buy the game on steam for like 50 or 40 bucks but on ps3 and 360 its 60 bucks. you know why??? because there is no physical distribution

  • @hokagealex really because im pretty sure i saw the report stating the price of the games and MW2 still cost me 60$ on steam

  • better than paying $ 3000 on a computer every 5 years

  • looks like a xbox controller

  • omg OnLine has just destroyed microsoft hamachi ventrilo sony steam and more companys i hate this serves alrady

  • So I honestly don't know how the Internet actually works but on speed tests, I've reached 13 mbps down (and I'm paying for 15) but the highest a normal download has gotten for me is 2 mbps. Are the speed tests inaccurate or does it just depend on the servers your downloading from? I would love it if onlive actually used the 15 mbps I'm paying for. Especially since they expect people with just 5 mbps.

  • @DaStuntBrothers divied speed that you get on speedtest by 8 to get your real speed( or aproximet) ;) same with upload speed.

  • ok so their center is 50 miles away in the video from where hes playing the game what about thousand miles??

  • I don't get this. Can someone tell me how it works?

  • The game runs on OnLive's servers. You only send controller input and they send the rendered images back.

  • @arkendias3 I think .. its a box that is conected to a super computer or something that has all games and you send the controling you do to it and it sends you a video.. that is what i understood :/

  • its probably just a cable connection to many xbox's. im sure ur monthly subscription would subsidize it.

  • @arkendias3 It streams the video of the game from their data center along with the ability to control the game. The games are actually installed on their servers.

  • when can i get this

  • it needs to hurry up and come out

    i am tired of the 360 and the ps3

    the wii is just stupid

  • @bigaj785fly wait till june 17 2010 thats when its coming out

  • wat does onlive do full info please

  • watch the conference

  • Yeah thats true. Lower price, add more drm or in mw2's case drop support and higher price ;D

    I like onlive's idea but i have yet to see it in a home environment with many people on at once.

  • I have a beta account, will trade for a darkfall account

  • @N2Lucky, an 32 mbps connection is only 30€ a month, so what's the problem?

  • haha depends where you are, to have a 10mbs in my location is about $70

  • nice slusho intro

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  • @TeamFortressKilla Can't you post a video?

  • I want to, but I kinda signed this NDA, and im not even supposed to be talking about it. I was wondering why no one else put one up, I cant be the only one whos messing around with it, sorry but these people got money and I dont want to mess with them.

  • It looks laggy to me and technically it has to be considering it will be using our own unreliable ISP and it has to encode everything it sends to you. The LAST thing I want is for every single game I play to rely on my internet connection. What if the servers crash or need maintenance?? Well, looks like we would be screwed... no thanks!!

  • It's on both PC and it has it's own microconsole (see website) I don't know why they are using an xbox controller. If you're PC is pretty low-end then now you can play games like crysis and other games on your PC without it ever breaking a sweat see website

  • @agranadio

    thats not an xbox controller!

    its made by logitech for PC and PS3!

  • arent the games kinda laggy?

  • so when is it actually coming out???

  • looks like the game actually laggs, or is it only me?

  • He suck's at driving

  • I hope this doesn't end up being overpriced. It looks like its going to be worth the buy tho...

  • the onlive is free online you just have to buy a card like the ps3, 360 to buy or add-ons and 200 or 300 hundred ha dumbasses

  • no it aint,i was on the onlivefanfourm and they said that it would 5-10 dollers a mounth

  • i know but the add-ons 10 or 20 it depends

  • I think you pay per game and you play money each month for the onlive service..

  • By the way, This will look good on my 32" =)

  • To the people who say that this won't work and that they will shut down and fail as a company...I say to you that you are stupid and wrong for saying that. Just because they have been working on something that has failed in the past doesn't mean they will fail. They have been in development for 7 years, and I can assure you they know their share of cloud computing knowledge, unlike the losers in their mother's basements saying anything they feel like when they don't know about it or how it works

  • if you live in australia then you'll understand

  • @brendameistar Who says this is for Australia? Why should I even try to argue your point? Not everything is for everyone, and if they don't have servers in Australia so be it. That's life. That's no reason to say they will fail or not work as a gaming service, just because they don't go worldwide. Don't use your own personal situation based on region as an argument.

  • remember phantom? this is just another incarnation of failure, and yeah, even if this thing is available in aus, people wouldnt want to use it, because its just too pricey and you dont actually own anything. like you paid for the game, fine, but you have to pay for the service, fine, but once you stop paying for their service then that means you aint going to be able to have access to the stuffs that you paid for. the only way for this to work is that they give you a valid cd key.

  • I don't think you realize the potential. Let me attempt to explain it to you. You pay around 2-300 dollars per year purchasing better graphics cards, more if there is a new bus technology for the graphics card (ie when pci express 3.0 comes out, new motherboard, etc) -- this service would never cost that much per year. It's like netflix, people don't care about owning the physical media anymore -- they just want to be able to play the game.

  • Why not buy a console that costs ... around 300 and be over with it? If onlive costs around 5-20 per month that will still cost more later on since you still have to buy the games. Service + price of game.

    But if your a pc gamer ... i would see why you need to update once new technology comes out. Yet the dont update hardware every year. Give a couple years between and the actually pc is cheaper than onlive

    Byt Onlive actually is good for travelers though.

  • the price of all 3 current gen consoles + a gaming pc costs more. not to mention you're still purchasing the games on those.

  • Good point.

    The limitations of onlive is still bad.

    You need a fast connection and you need a connection to play games.

    Plus you dont know if it even works smoothly!

  • Thats because its in Beta, you tool.

  • Saying the prices are high? If you are, the live video of this ( GameSpot @ GDC 09: OnLive Full Press Confrence ) says the prices are INCREDIBLY low.

  • @AkatoshVivec

    yeah but if you pirate your games you have the luxury of upgrading gfx cards then play on this shit fag

  • @AkatoshVivec Actually buying a $300 graphics card will last you 3 or 4 years, so if you have a good pc, onlive might not be worth it. However, if you're like me and you would rather not buy or build a new pc (because yours is too outdated to even upgrade), then this is awesome. Not to mention that I'm through letting the consoles rip me off ($60 dollars for a game running on medium settings that sells for $50 on pc running at ultra high settings? ripoff).

  • @AkatoshVivec

    Did you know you still have to purchase the game you want to play? So aside from the monthly onlive bill, you still have to buy the game you want to play. And there's an issue on it as well which I forgot. But you'll definitely see the review here on youtube.

  • @2007006096 It's just a new form of ownership. Sounds like a good strike back at piracy.

  • @AkatoshVivec BULL CRAP you always need to get a new graphics card who ever made that up was retarded. I personailty have the same freaking graphics card and its running Call of duty black ops just FINE GOD damn i mean like YOU DONT GET A NEW GRAPHICS CARD EVERY YEAR GOD DAMN! Thats just retarded

  • I was just thinking. Ok it looks good and everything but what happens if say you bought a bunch of games and a few years later Onlive closes down. You dont get your money back.

  • The same could be said for Steam.

  • how much is this thing

  • u pay per game i think.thrs a renting option too apparently.

  • 6,000$

  • ok your ether messen with my balls or your not but what ever its really 6000 wow then and wtf for this machine cheap rip then

  • im just messinh with you man it should be around 200$ to 300$ but not sure if it will work WHEN THOUNSANDS OF people are all on the servers thats the only problems the devopers have with it they dont know if it will work:(

  • they are currently in beta testing so...

  • lol. yea i know

  • great!!!

  • i will have to say that guy sucks. the only issue i can see with this not working is how will there servers react to a lot of gamers at once? i think the idea is awesome, and its been in creation for a long time. guess we will see once it releases.

  • did he crash so much cuz of lag????

    he says that its cuz he is not good but maybe he is being nice and not saying outloud that it lags

  • shame us brit's aren't going to be able to use this, its only available in the US.

  • indeed

  • I just wondering if I can use any controllers such as xbox 360, it will capable with onlive gaming console?

  • how fast is the minimum speed requirement for this? apart from that ima probably get the miniconsole.

  • It's streaming people....

    what part of streaming don't you get?

    you don't have to download anything it's like streaming video from your computer to your tv using a wifi connection.

  • Pipe dream.

  • they said the graphics degrade depending on your latency

    so it could look really crappy if you are downloading on your computer I'm guessing.

  • I understand this is the greatest thing..ever..

    BUT!

    What if you run your phone off of voip, causing the bandwidth to go crazy when I'm playing this, and my dad is working. (using the phone a lot)

  • dude. that's wild. I wonder how much it'll cost? do you have to pay a monthly fee, or do you just by the console and that's it?

  • i think its free, but threse a one off fee for the software, but if you buy the microconsole(comes with a tv adapter, and a controller) its a little more, and they get payed because they take 3% from every transaction, doesn't sound like alot but its a huge amount.

    $100 divided by 3% = $3 x 1,000,000 = $3,000,000. most games sell just over 2 million. cod 4 sold 13 million, so you can probably see where i'm going with this.

  • this is revolution,

    Dear  Onlive Team please, please make a Onlive-Exklusiv Title with monster grafic.

    I would pay 5 $ for a hour.

    Like a Gta 10

  • if that thing can play age of conan, im totaly gonna buy it.

  • It probably can't.

  • So, like....you are playing final fantasy, you just hit the last BOSS! He is down for the count, 1 hit left and you will get that awesome ending that you played for 50+´hours to get. ......"DISCONNECTED" flashes across the screen..........ultimate failure!

  • So your play final fantasy, you just hit the last BOSS! He is down for the count, 1 hit left and you will get that awesome ending that you played for 50+´hours to get power surge and an EMP goes off on know China is attack... ultimate failure.

  • You play final fantasy for 50+ hours............ultimate failure!

  • i dont want metal gear solid online i mean just metal gear solid 4

  • no it can't, its a ps3 exclusive. unless its ported to the PC, which is too late.

    you can only play games which are available on the PC.

  • can onlive play games like metal gear solid 4???? PLEASE REPLY!!!!!!!

  • yeah man

    it can play CRYSIS!

  • So can PS3 and 360...when it comes out.

  • lol the graphics on the pc is gana be better.

  • This is AWESOME! This is going to Change Gaming! The Onlive will revile Facebook, Myspace, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. Thank Goodness for a new boy on the block!

  • i wonder how many xbox's they are going to have hooked up for the millions that are gonna want to try this out

  • They have gaming computers with a special graphics card system from Nvidia (I dont think it was ATI) which allows them to play more than one game on one pc at the same time, with all the graphics cards in one PC.

    They have the games in "high graphics" and "low graphics" categories. Well not really, but you can categorize them like that. For one high graphical game you can play like 4 low graphical games. I think I heard something like that.

    So on every server theres X games at once...

  • Xbox's? They are using multiple high end (REALLY high end) servers to run the games and encode the video on the fly.

    Its going to be cheap, cheating free MP, and means you won't have to upgrade a PC or buy a new console every few years.

    This company has some extremely renowned partners like Nvidia, EA, THQ, Codemasters, Ubisoft. Huge gaming corporations, that know that this WILL WORK. If in doubt, follow the trail of MONEY.

  • its werid to see a system like this with no disc and always online. um lets see what happens when the sever is gettin millions of people playin it at the same time.

  • play onlive for 1hour then my BB 20gb are over or huge phone bill coming...

  • Theres no possible way to cheat on OnLive since virtually everything is server side.

    Not even the GUI is client side.

    Nothing to hack here IMO

  • bye bye hackers...

    :/ they always find a way to cheat

  • They cut your internet!

    MUAHAHAHA

  • i wish it comes to the uk or europe

  • i wish that it comes to sweden =)

  • this is just Gametap but bigger with newer games so theres gotta be lag depends on how far away you are from there office/station but offline play should be good

  • Soor y but it is Nothing like Gametap. U completely Misunderstood what Onlive is

  • Gametap is more like Steam but Steam Blows gametap out of the Water completely

  • Um. There is NO OFFLINE PLAY. If you watched and listened to the video you'd know the only thing that is transfered to your box is the VIDEO of the LIVE GAMEPLAY.

  • Prince of Persia isn't multiplayer? So im guessing only singleplayer games are offline and the multiplayer games only have multiplayer gaming? =/

  • No, NOTHING is offline. NOTHING!

    If you listened, you'd know EVERYTHING that is transfered to the box is a LIVE VIDEO of the game your playing. Singleplayer or not!

  • wonder if its possible to attach that "box/device" to the computer instead of the TV...that would make it more simple to write stuff...

    + for personal use in lets say Counter strike Source where the command prompt the best tool for modding

  • the box is for the tv, once it comes out you can install the software onto your pc/mac and it works the same

  • you dont need the box to play onlive on your pc you just use your web browser the box is just for tv

  • this will seriously screw over hardware manufactures like ati nvidia intel etc since people wont need to upgrade and buying a console would be pointless

  • no, the opposite will happen. the hardware manufacturers primary customers will switch from being consumers to servers and companies, where they can sell even more hardware in very large bulk orders in order to fulfill demand.

  • Gamer, those companies are working WITH them.

    :]

  • pretty sure this section is for comments about how they like or dislike the video, not how it works. maybe somebody asked before how this works, and people have still been speaking about it for the last 200 comments. Short answer, go to the onlive website, they explain it to you in 3 seconds.

    My comment is this thing is gonna be shiz-bam-snib-snab-snap!

  • tell me this should would perfect on a netbook then right it it doesn't require a powerful machine and so what is the minium system reuirements like a 1gz CPu and like 512 mb ram and intergrated graphics.

  • it will work on any system. even a computer from like 1998 lol aslong it has windows xp, vista or mac osx.

  • can you play any exclusive ps3 or xbox360 game in this shit?

  • I also wonder if they specifically port games to Linux or any other special OS for them to be streamed to the gamers. I wonder if they're still Windows based...

  • Well you don't have to port games to linux or mac or PC. You not running the game on your computer your just watching a video of it so it should work on linux.

  • Umm, @retsnom,

    Im talking about the tech stuff inside the datacenters, but nobody knows that anyway. I mean the OS running INSIDE the datacenter where the games are being run. Do they use Windows, or do they use Linux or some other obscure propritary OS? I know the whole technology is OS independent for the user. You don't even need a comp, heh. But I would have one, to play strategy games on onlive ;)

  • Its probably some type of firmware or OS that they made. They aren't going to be checking email and stuff like that. I think its going to be like how the xbox 360 firmware works. What ever it is though looks sweet with the whole globe of videos and stuff.

  • I'm 99% sure it will be a propriatory OS, to go with the propiatory hardware that they have. The OS would only contain libraries that are needed for games. Heck, there probably isn't even a GUI front end.

  • Or maybe just Linux wíth a Kernel optimized for games ;).

    Yeah, could be a propritary OS, but that would make it harder for devs to make games for it, you need to learn all the hecks of it, etc. And on the website, they say it's a full standards based SDK. I wonder if it isnt just Linux. But we'll never know anyway ;).

    And of course there IS a GUI frontend, which should be only installed on seperate pcs of course... I'd do it like that!

  • I'm hoping it runs on Windows ME. That OS is by far the best OS ever :P.

    If it was a propritary OS, it would just be like coding for the PS3. That is extreamly difficult to program for.

    Wouldn't they also go for a command line interface for the actual servers? Surely the don't want all the extra overhead of a GUI?

  • Umm ME? It has the DOs stuff still under it which makes it unstable... Well, I dunno, I hate ME, 98 is better for me.

    Well I don't think they'll do some propritary shit then, nobody would make their games for ANOTHER system...

    A command line interface? Umm it doesnt make less overhead than a GUI. The GUI should be started on a different pc of course. With some interface to the server. Maybe just some propritary TCP protocol :P

  • ME FTW. I've been using ever since it was. I mean its like a giant ball of 2000 and undeveloped parts of XP into one kick ass operating system. It just ozzes Microsoft Quality :P.

    However, i can confirm that they are all running Microsoft Bob. The OnLive server is actually an item that you could include on one of the shelves. Wasn't really advertised, so it went past us unnoticed :(

  • Also, on the developer side, i'm skeptical. There was a lot of emphasis on developers towards the end of the keynote, which suggests they would have to work with a custom API, so it would be like coding for an entirly new console.

    I'm thinking for latency sake, the code would do the object processing and compressing at the same time, so the servers don't have to generate all the output, then compress, and send it out.

  • The code doesn't do any compressing, this happens in a chip built on the mainboard of the PCs used for serving the games. It just outputs graphical information... I bet to some kind of graphics stream which is forwarded to the chip, directly, by the operating system.

    Well on the website, theres something about the open SDK stuff, which deals with standards etc...

  • Sorry, of course it does lol. You shall have to excuse me I'm quite under the influence at the moment, t'is the night before my birthday lol.

  • If it takes off, it's going to kill mods. =[

  • Actually you could be able to upload mods to onlive and have people download them... but thats just my hopes and dreams :P