give henry another 10 years and he will be advertising shit on tv
he already is selling you his ideas on tv and not for free even you pay your internet for youtube
..................he is a great entertainer and anyone that has the determination to be a sucsess should do it .............good for henry just dont ever be in a lift beside him if it gets stuck
@richardjonathansmith I find that distasteful because it's just using Iggy's likeness, which quite frankly I've always found distasteful. Personally I think it's about HOW the original work is used, not WHO uses it. Mercedes Benz used Janis Joplin's song of the same name, which directly contradicted the message of that song. However, Audi also used "Race:In" by Battles. Nobody knows who they are, they have a well-deserved Audi paycheck for their work, and the advert worked well with that music.
Selling Punk music to the "establishment" is more punk then selling a seven on your lawn, hungover, at 45, in front of your rental. Oh and the sevens.... are left over from a tour you did in 85'.
I disagree, Mr. Rollins. The problem I have is not so much with the bands. I despise commercials and most forms of advertisement. I'm fighting for my very life every time I find a way to keep THEM from stealing my life 30-60 seconds at a time. If THEM is US now (I'm 36), then I think some of US really were just going thru a phase (as our parents hoped). I UNDERSTAND if you sell your song to Coke, man. I've always known the wizard was behind the curtain. My problem is with Oz, not you.
I've tried to explain this in nearly these exact words so many times. People wanna call someone a sellout because they're fucking jealous that someone else can make some money off of their talent. They would be the first fucking posers to sell there souls IF they had a shred of talent themselves, but they do not.
'Generic background music' every time, thanks. Man who's sold out in poorly-conceived rant justifying selling out. Wow - just wow. It's all bluster, smoke and mirrors. Selling out is selling out, simple as that. I'm with Bill Hicks on this: "Do a commercial, you're off the artistic roll call, every word you say is suspect, you're a corporate whore and eh, end of story". There's nothing else left to say.
seems to have forgotten to mention that the bands don't even have a say anyway. whoever owns the rights to their music does: so the record company and the publisher. so how a band can sell out when they have no say is a pointless thing to say in this case. i agree though - pay them, though don't forget they won't get the lions share of the cash, the industry does.
@LOVELILLY1 wrong! the composition holder - aka the songwriter - does have the right to turn licensings down, even if the rights to exploit it have been sold.
So true. As long as a band keep sticking to their music and not go all "Hey, look! People like our music... Let's make it even MORE commercial by abandoning our roots and our early fans!"
@warlordzephyr no thats not. He rationalised to 'Henry speak'. In other words: psedo-intellectual, I'm right-because-I-swear-proudly-at-vids-end, douchebag, sleight-of-hand, bullshit. He basically said its okay for McDonald's to serve nutritionally-raped food, as long as they, say, play Slayer while they do it. Only half-wits, and newbies take Henry as the godfather of old school ideals. His contemporaries-like the blatantly underrated Greg Ginn, founder+songwriter BF knows whats up with him.
@Kull405 Nice assumption that I give a shit about Henry Rollins. Your analogy was flakey at best. McDonald's selling "nutritionally raped food" has nothing to do with a band being given money for the use of their product(song). Sure, they could take the moral highroad and say "NO! this food is NOT healthy so you can't use my song. That would be just wrong good sir!" Or, you know, people could fucking decide to eat healthily. What you said initially is correct, but the analogy was just bad.
@TeKnoKarot 'good sir'?!?!?...the fuck....I never said you 'cared' about anyone, I said you were being 'goodly pleasured' (hows that for archaic idiomatics) by him. My analogy was 'flakey' at best. Before we even begin to look at the definition of the word and whether it makes, if any, sense in the context you used, lets compare his analogy on why folks shouldn't bitch when a collective or collection of musicians exploring politics that questions the way we live in one era, is yearning to live-
@TeKnoKarot in a polar contradictory fashion than when they were recognized for former stance and gain a degree of material 'success'(?), just so they can continue livin' off-not the music they made which enlightened folks, but so those they decried-the greedy, the powerful-can show how driving the latest tech bot and the spirit of liberty can be friends. Rollins vehemently denounces those would be aggravators who experience such drivel and cry foul, (because anti-corporatism is--
@TeKnoKarot so not cool nowadays) by claiming the weak-ass 'if you didn't see it, it doesn't really happen' rationalizsation, so common in his diatribes, with just enjoy the music playing, forget the fact that its a scam. Actually, don't forget it, keep it mind, THIS IS A SCAM, I KNOW, YOU KNOW IT....His prescription: as predictably pseudo-intellectualls can be, knowing little about a whole lot and trying to be congruent with it all (impossible, Einstein couldn't do it, Henry tries, and makes--
@TeKnoKarot us laugh with how many people who can't think for themselves, are suckered in and so rely on his sleight-of-hand ...Yo gabba-gabba, oh, and FUCK THEM' charm to justify such bullshit tactics to explain why they drive a Nissan. The thing is, I ain't against anyone driving or doing anything! The world we live, this door to perception is way too fuckin complex to believe answers lie in self-righteous parading (which I sense is how many halfwits and pinheads reading this will take this as
@TeKnoKarot ). My analogy was spot on. Your critical banter about how people could just eat healthily, musicians complaining the food was bad, so they cant use their song...what the fuck are you talking about?!?! You're in the technical aspect, not its symbolism...work on your grasp on what it is you are discussing, criticising, 'not giving a shit about', or just plain shitstirring, and maybe we'll get somehwere, you fuckin retard! XD
@Kull405 It really doesn't matter at the end of the day that they are playing slayer to sell their food, perhaps diverting attention from its content if that's the concern or giving that initial feeling of well if its good for slayer its good for me. My point is complaining about it is futile in the least because the band gets their money and McDonald's gets their advertising. An ethical argument is a waste of time, if you notice the problem doesn't lie with the bands, it lies with McDonald's.
@TeKnoKarot so, in other words, you don't give a shit, regardless of ANY point raised, because money is all we all REALLY need at the end of the day, nevermind the consequences such choices imbue in others-our kids, for example (that is, for you've reach that level of life experience so you can comment-pretense free-and in foresight of their likely future. I'm sure henry would give a high five or some bullshit for engaging in rhetoric, where nobody is right in the end, just who came off 'cooler'
I got news guys; That's been done for YEARS. That's why they have enterteinment laawyers and entertainment law to secure the rights to these popular songs by popular bands and stick them on stuff the conglomerates want to sell YOU.
The sell out part isn't the problem. The problem is punks and their whole attitude against society. They can go fuck themselves and let people do whatever the fuck they want with their music.
Selling out would be making a tune SOLELY for a commercial. Rollins doing those ads wasn't selling out, mainly because I think he truly does enjoy Apple's products and not doing JUST for the money.
@Kasigi03 what about those knee-slappin' insurance company ads too? Ya know, I've gotta say, I don't condone widow-robbin, or cancer-case bailouts, but they sure are cute
He's actually pretty dead wrong. The bands are NOT just "getting paid". They're only getting money at all because a lot MORE money will be made off of it, which sure as hell will not be going to the band.
They aren't just attempting to sell products either. They're attempting to manipulate/shape people's attitudes. And in case no one noticed, they're largely succeeding.
They didn't get paid for their music because it was dangerous to the big money. And they shouldn't be able to buy it.
@Schlameil I truly hope your being sarcastic, but by the length of the comment I guess you're not. Otherwise I guess you don't know how the fucking world works after all these years. Your attitude is what the ad is attempting to fix and, honestly, you have to be fucking thick not to understand the term selling out.
Selling out is compromising your artistic integrity. If you make songs about "Screw corporations" and your music is used in an ad for some corporation's service or product, that is selling out. If your music gets used to sell something completely unrelated to corporations like ladies' garments from a local, independent lingerie shop, this isn't selling out.
Henry nails it early on - "If you made the album you were told to make instead of the one you wanted to make, you're selling out".
> "We have arrived." Very true. CPAs, MBAs screwing health care clients, and predatory lawyers are now so likely to be tattooed and pierced no one even noticed THEY are the greedy sociopathic whores controlling our culture now.
@rg813 yeah it was a basketball commercial not sure but maybe kobe bryant was in it i jsut looked for it real fast but it is late here so but yeah if ur bored im sure if u look for it long enough ull find it... i seen it on a website i dont remmeber if it was a youtube video or not
This guy is such a sell out. He's lost his vision, and given up his integrity, he's letting the man tell him what to do, and it saddens me to think that someone who was once a shining beacon of hope for speaking your mind, without any bullshit, is now working for the very thing he stood against.
eh, but the point of putting the song in the commercial is to bring the brand (not the band) to mind every time you hear it from then on. doesn't ruin the band, but it does ruin the song. the corporate invades the culture in this way, and not vice versa.
I was happy when I heard the Black Keys in commercials, at least they're making money (they derserve) and most of the time I don't even remember what company the commercial belongs to, just that I heard the Keys. My brother even likes the Keys now because of commercials and he only listens to hip-hop and r&b.
@spittingbloodhc So? Just cause the music is less raw, doesn't mean anything. Musical taste is subjective; based on both the listener and artists. Are plumbers better plumbers if there making money based off of what they're told to make or if they are following their own thing? I'm sure even pop stars enjoy what they are doing, and that's what matters.
Don't get me wrong, I'll listen to black flag any day over Kesha or w.e new bs artist that's on the radio.
@breakingthe4thwall we could get in to all sorts of debates in to the positive effects on the artist and society as a whole making an album you want to make has, as can be seen via the punk movement! Whether or not happiness takes a back seat to honesty and message is again, as you rightly pointed out, entirely subjective for every member of society. I was merely adding on to what I subjectively believed the term "selling out" to mean, regardless of whether or not it was also what you thought.
I was always happy to hear a song I knew on a commercial. When I did it showed that I was not the only one who recognized that there was this band and they were effin awesome.
@SlimeTron5000 anyone who is a full time musician and not on a major label is still going to want to be paid there are things called RENT and FOOD needed to survive and its not free just like music is not free, they arrent paid for the hours spent on creating this art and studios believe it or not DO charge money for you to record when youre not on a major label. i believe stealing this art online or bootlegging has destroyed good music thats why good bands sell out and make commercial BS.
@SlimeTron5000 I did not create this world I only live in it so the harsh reality is that if i dont work my rent doesnt get paid and i have nowhere to live and nothing to eat. what about you? do you work to pay rent? do you pay for your own food? who paid for your computer? the electricity for your pc? or your internet service? do your parents pay for all of that? and btw art also coasts money to make, materials and equiptment dont just fall from the sky. i am very interested in your answers
damn straight! I love it when something even slightly alternative that i love is playing in the background of an ad, just the other day 'natural's not in it' by gang of four was on an xbox advert. guitar hero though i hate
i can't stand punk "purists" >_< they make all these rules for punk rock.....that makes no fucking sense....its PUNK rock! the point is to do what you want and not what you're told to! so why are you making rules for the rule-less?? arrghh!!
when a corporation uses a piece of music to sell a product its called marketing. They search out the demographic they want to reach. Then find the artist they feel speaks to those consumers. They have no care of what the song means. They just want you to buy shit. To an artist a song should be a part of you. Like your child. Would you hand your child over to someone who doesn't care about it.? Who would gladly exploit it for personal gain? Are you a parent or a pimp? An artist or a shill?
As Henry says, money doesn't mean selling out. Being a fake little bitch is selling out, making what you love and happening to make money from it isn't.
You are right, not all music is rebellious. But Rollins has built his entire career on rebellion, and now he's advocating selling it. That's called hypocrisy. Britney Spears and company can feel free to do all the commercials they want. Incidentally, I don't know who was attacking corporations, but it makes you sound stupid by rushing to defend them based on talking points from an episode of South Park.
This is the first time Henry has said something I thought was utter bullshit. What a fucked up argument. Musicians aren't supposed to be guaranteed a living. It's an art, you do it for a hobby, you do it for love, you do it because it's in your blood. If you make money at it without compromise, great. If you have to compromise your ideals to make money from music then leave it as a labor of love, you self-entitled fuck.
Some of the most pretentious bullshit I ever heard in my life. What the fuck is so self compromising about letting someone use a song in a commercial and making money from it? "Oh, but corporations are soooo evil!" Really, maybe that was never a part of the artists ideal in the first place.
@hal900x I agree,for everything so REAL this BS artist says he says something like this little bit about selling out Then drinks some coffee sux up to Gene simmons for selling sounds and bashes K.Richards about drugs on a guitarist top 10 list or some other impulsive banter and if you confront him he will change the subject or turn it around in someway then blow you off Believe me.If he quits running his mouth and just sings like a performing seal he would be doing himself and the world a favor.
Henry's right. You're not selling out if you have artistic integirty and you used said integrity to make the record you wanted to make. If somebody AFTERWARDS wants to use a 15-second clip and pay the band for it, what's the big deal?
Nothing against making money, but I have to wonder if these artists have any respect for their own creations. I understand it if it's some band that hasn't really broken yet; the commercial can get their music out there. But people like Pete Townsend, whose music I love by the way...it's like, how much money do you need, Pete? Aren't you a friggin' multi-millionaire? Ever consider these songs might actually mean something to us, we might not want to see them cheapened on GMC commercials?
I have always felt that way, people started a band because they like music, and we all have it in our heads, man wouldn't it be great if we got a deal and became super famous? Bands doing what they need to get money to me isn't selling out, that is just getting your bills paid, bands doing things they wouldn't do for personal reasons, is selling out. Off to my bartending job because my band didn't get the opportunity to sell out, :(
If one is not a sell out for selling their songs to corporations, then what is a sell out exactly? The whole concept of punk rock is essentially envy. Low to middle class white kids angry that they don't have what rich people have. Henry also drives a BMW, which is the epitomizes yuppie ostentatiousness . I find it ironic that he's telling ME what a sell out is. What a JERK!!!!
@Satchel334 I remember that ad. I also remember an interview he did with Alternative Press around the time "Weight" was out - he said what he got paid by Apple for that print ad was a color scanner that he started using so that they could do much of the work for 2.13.61's book releases in-house!
@Satchel334 I completely disagree with Rollins here. I would MUCH rather have to endure some generic background music because it would help to ensure that the capitalist f*cks that put the ad together will receive much lower profits. Punk rockers need to finally grow some balls and have some integrity when it comes to standing up for what is right. How do you think Rollins would feel if Adolf Hitler wanted to use a Black Flag song when promoting the VW Beetle?
@tiohero dude, the very internet you just used to post that comment? Maybe you didn't, but someone somewhere paid the capitalist fucks called your ISP so you could even make that comment. You wanna talk shit about corporate/capitalist America, get your shit straight and don't talk out of your ass, and please don't resort to the fucking Hitler argument. That shit gets old REAL fast.
Some of these bands are just fucking greedy though and have already made millions off their albums anyway, but they figure they can squeeze just a bit a more money out of them by whoring out to advertisers.
"Selling out is when you make the record you're told to make instead of the record you want to make."
I don't think I've ever heard a more concise and accurate description of what selling out truly is. The term is thrown around way too much and often without any actual meaning. When it comes down to it everyone loves their fave band because of the music. What does it matter that they put out tons of merch or appear in infomercials selling cookware as long as the music is still theirs?
@AdobeGillis Pinkerton was EPIC!!! (Maybe not for Rivers) My fav album so far! The albums after that of course can't measure up to pinkerton or the blue album but they're are still great! Weezer is like the most geeky-nerdy-so-called-punk band i guess, they do whatever they want is what i mean... "I'm gonna do the things that i wanna do, I ain't got a thing to prove to you" ~ pork n beans (nothing like sticking up to the man!)
Haha YES! Nicely said! Come on guys, I haven't used the term "sell-out" since I was 14. So, if you're a self righteous <14, fine. Otherwise, grow up. I recently got really annoyed when I heard a Pogues song on a commercial, but really... It's the Pogues! I don't know why they allowed that, but I trust their judgement. The thing is, the bands want to be able to keep making music and we want them to keep making music, and the only way they can do that is if they make a buck off of it.
@FlutedTubePan The Pogues are sell outs if they gave their song to a corporation. There are musicians who refuse to give their music to Ads. Those musicians are NOT sell outs. If the Pogues want to write jingles then they should write jingles. I don't have a problem with them making a buck. I'm sure that they don't either. But, let's call a spade a spade here.
hahah of course he thinks this way, or at least fools himself to out of greed, he is in a god darn car commercial! So you cant really get an unbiased view from the guy can you? he is a sellout himself :) go play the warped tour Henry.
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JM1375 6 days ago
/mu/ sent me here.
Picheta32192 1 week ago 2
Eisbrecher sent me here.. just joining the bandwagon
doodles518 2 weeks ago 3
give henry another 10 years and he will be advertising shit on tv
he already is selling you his ideas on tv and not for free even you pay your internet for youtube
..................he is a great entertainer and anyone that has the determination to be a sucsess should do it .............good for henry just dont ever be in a lift beside him if it gets stuck
the guy has issues
guitaneman 2 weeks ago
Bill Goldberg sent me here
Scracar 2 weeks ago
Leave it to Henry to make one THINK.
csrhiatt1 2 weeks ago
Graham Linehan sent me here.
csrhiatt1 2 weeks ago
Bill hicks
paulrvlad 2 weeks ago
So your song was in a car commercial? FUCK YOU, PAY ME.
Plasuma22 3 weeks ago
I bet if U2 did a car commercial mr Rollins couldn't wait to stick it to them. You can't have it both ways dude.
appletvplop 3 weeks ago
Kinda reminds me of "Y'know what really grinds my gears...?"
ByMonitorLight 3 weeks ago
Henry clearly hasn't seen Iggy advertising SwiftCover car insurance here in the UK :(
richardjonathansmith 4 weeks ago
@richardjonathansmith I find that distasteful because it's just using Iggy's likeness, which quite frankly I've always found distasteful. Personally I think it's about HOW the original work is used, not WHO uses it. Mercedes Benz used Janis Joplin's song of the same name, which directly contradicted the message of that song. However, Audi also used "Race:In" by Battles. Nobody knows who they are, they have a well-deserved Audi paycheck for their work, and the advert worked well with that music.
allonewordy 3 weeks ago
Dear hipsters.. 0:00
NiggaWiddaAttitude 1 month ago
gap
rollinsfish 1 month ago
hatred for selling out, and intuition that henry would advocate selling out sent me here.
mezzetin1 1 month ago
The Black Keys Q interview sent me here.
blues970123 1 month ago
Rollins preaching the "punk sellout" gospel to Gen Xers who stopped discussing this topic like 15 years ago.
deyoungparker 1 month ago
Why so angry?
ItsRoom205 1 month ago
Ash Avildsen sent me here.
Drumstixxxes 1 month ago 19
Selling Punk music to the "establishment" is more punk then selling a seven on your lawn, hungover, at 45, in front of your rental. Oh and the sevens.... are left over from a tour you did in 85'.
bchois 1 month ago
I disagree, Mr. Rollins. The problem I have is not so much with the bands. I despise commercials and most forms of advertisement. I'm fighting for my very life every time I find a way to keep THEM from stealing my life 30-60 seconds at a time. If THEM is US now (I'm 36), then I think some of US really were just going thru a phase (as our parents hoped). I UNDERSTAND if you sell your song to Coke, man. I've always known the wizard was behind the curtain. My problem is with Oz, not you.
oldrtyt 2 months ago
I've tried to explain this in nearly these exact words so many times. People wanna call someone a sellout because they're fucking jealous that someone else can make some money off of their talent. They would be the first fucking posers to sell there souls IF they had a shred of talent themselves, but they do not.
Asalamalika 2 months ago
Rollins sold out.
xjtbarnesx 2 months ago
I saw this guy in a christmas movie recently!
shovingwords 2 months ago
Amen, amen, tell it like it is!
TheEric1203 2 months ago
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TheEric1203 2 months ago
Some fucking tool is trying to tell me that The Clash "sold out" because their music is on advertisements. I sent that fucking asshole this.
CriticsConfession 2 months ago 3
Johnny Marr sent me here...
kyleadams03 3 months ago 7
'Generic background music' every time, thanks. Man who's sold out in poorly-conceived rant justifying selling out. Wow - just wow. It's all bluster, smoke and mirrors. Selling out is selling out, simple as that. I'm with Bill Hicks on this: "Do a commercial, you're off the artistic roll call, every word you say is suspect, you're a corporate whore and eh, end of story". There's nothing else left to say.
Zorg2006 3 months ago 3
@Zorg2006 You, sir, are close minded. I hope that you're still young, that there's still hope for you. Grow the fuck up.
YocoN 1 month ago
@YocoN Not young, just honest. You and people like you need to stop being so dishonest about these things.
Zorg2006 1 month ago
@Zorg2006 bingo.
tomdissonance 3 weeks ago
seems to have forgotten to mention that the bands don't even have a say anyway. whoever owns the rights to their music does: so the record company and the publisher. so how a band can sell out when they have no say is a pointless thing to say in this case. i agree though - pay them, though don't forget they won't get the lions share of the cash, the industry does.
LOVELILLY1 3 months ago
@LOVELILLY1 wrong! the composition holder - aka the songwriter - does have the right to turn licensings down, even if the rights to exploit it have been sold.
tomkingggg 3 months ago
Fuck, throw money anyone will do anything.
Don't judge someone for getting paid. Haters gonna hate...
Phalanx3800 4 months ago
Who wouldn't want people to hear the Ramones? Car ad or no car ad? Why would you want a band who are fucking amazing to not be appreciated.
bobotohough 4 months ago
Wait people actually send letters to Henry Rollins about punk songs being in car commercials?? Who are these fucking twats?
astronautagogo 4 months ago
I just love how suddenly and furiously pissed off he gets in the final ten seconds.
michaelcisek 5 months ago
@sidewindexx, I think I love you...
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
So true. As long as a band keep sticking to their music and not go all "Hey, look! People like our music... Let's make it even MORE commercial by abandoning our roots and our early fans!"
Kinda like Linkin Park did!
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icameasbelgian 5 months ago
selling out, Henry, is when monetary satisfaction dictates artististic output
Kull405 5 months ago
@Kull405 thats pretty much what he said
warlordzephyr 5 months ago
@warlordzephyr no thats not. He rationalised to 'Henry speak'. In other words: psedo-intellectual, I'm right-because-I-swear-proudly-at-vids-end, douchebag, sleight-of-hand, bullshit. He basically said its okay for McDonald's to serve nutritionally-raped food, as long as they, say, play Slayer while they do it. Only half-wits, and newbies take Henry as the godfather of old school ideals. His contemporaries-like the blatantly underrated Greg Ginn, founder+songwriter BF knows whats up with him.
Kull405 5 months ago
@Kull405 Did he really say that? Wow.. I guess I should give a shit then!
TeKnoKarot 4 months ago
@TeKnoKarot Its up to you...frankly, I would mind if you kept taking it up the philosophical ass by your sugar daddy Rollins.
Kull405 4 months ago
@Kull405 Nice assumption that I give a shit about Henry Rollins. Your analogy was flakey at best. McDonald's selling "nutritionally raped food" has nothing to do with a band being given money for the use of their product(song). Sure, they could take the moral highroad and say "NO! this food is NOT healthy so you can't use my song. That would be just wrong good sir!" Or, you know, people could fucking decide to eat healthily. What you said initially is correct, but the analogy was just bad.
TeKnoKarot 4 months ago
@TeKnoKarot 'good sir'?!?!?...the fuck....I never said you 'cared' about anyone, I said you were being 'goodly pleasured' (hows that for archaic idiomatics) by him. My analogy was 'flakey' at best. Before we even begin to look at the definition of the word and whether it makes, if any, sense in the context you used, lets compare his analogy on why folks shouldn't bitch when a collective or collection of musicians exploring politics that questions the way we live in one era, is yearning to live-
Kull405 4 months ago
@TeKnoKarot in a polar contradictory fashion than when they were recognized for former stance and gain a degree of material 'success'(?), just so they can continue livin' off-not the music they made which enlightened folks, but so those they decried-the greedy, the powerful-can show how driving the latest tech bot and the spirit of liberty can be friends. Rollins vehemently denounces those would be aggravators who experience such drivel and cry foul, (because anti-corporatism is--
Kull405 4 months ago
@TeKnoKarot so not cool nowadays) by claiming the weak-ass 'if you didn't see it, it doesn't really happen' rationalizsation, so common in his diatribes, with just enjoy the music playing, forget the fact that its a scam. Actually, don't forget it, keep it mind, THIS IS A SCAM, I KNOW, YOU KNOW IT....His prescription: as predictably pseudo-intellectualls can be, knowing little about a whole lot and trying to be congruent with it all (impossible, Einstein couldn't do it, Henry tries, and makes--
Kull405 4 months ago
@TeKnoKarot us laugh with how many people who can't think for themselves, are suckered in and so rely on his sleight-of-hand ...Yo gabba-gabba, oh, and FUCK THEM' charm to justify such bullshit tactics to explain why they drive a Nissan. The thing is, I ain't against anyone driving or doing anything! The world we live, this door to perception is way too fuckin complex to believe answers lie in self-righteous parading (which I sense is how many halfwits and pinheads reading this will take this as
Kull405 4 months ago
@TeKnoKarot ). My analogy was spot on. Your critical banter about how people could just eat healthily, musicians complaining the food was bad, so they cant use their song...what the fuck are you talking about?!?! You're in the technical aspect, not its symbolism...work on your grasp on what it is you are discussing, criticising, 'not giving a shit about', or just plain shitstirring, and maybe we'll get somehwere, you fuckin retard! XD
Kull405 4 months ago
@Kull405 It really doesn't matter at the end of the day that they are playing slayer to sell their food, perhaps diverting attention from its content if that's the concern or giving that initial feeling of well if its good for slayer its good for me. My point is complaining about it is futile in the least because the band gets their money and McDonald's gets their advertising. An ethical argument is a waste of time, if you notice the problem doesn't lie with the bands, it lies with McDonald's.
TeKnoKarot 4 months ago
@TeKnoKarot so, in other words, you don't give a shit, regardless of ANY point raised, because money is all we all REALLY need at the end of the day, nevermind the consequences such choices imbue in others-our kids, for example (that is, for you've reach that level of life experience so you can comment-pretense free-and in foresight of their likely future. I'm sure henry would give a high five or some bullshit for engaging in rhetoric, where nobody is right in the end, just who came off 'cooler'
Kull405 4 months ago
Henry Rollins is no fun, just ask my mom.
AJT041979 5 months ago
@AJT041979 I'll quiz her tonight. You may be right.
Kull405 5 months ago
I got news guys; That's been done for YEARS. That's why they have enterteinment laawyers and entertainment law to secure the rights to these popular songs by popular bands and stick them on stuff the conglomerates want to sell YOU.
WhatSayestThou 5 months ago
The sell out part isn't the problem. The problem is punks and their whole attitude against society. They can go fuck themselves and let people do whatever the fuck they want with their music.
TheAmazingUploader 5 months ago
I think what he is trying to say is that you people honeslty shouldn't be giving two fucks about it.
It's fucking music, get over it.
Tjorvz1 5 months ago
He tells it like it is
sirpsychow 5 months ago
Sellout..
rafaeljosez 5 months ago
Is this to make himself feel better about selling out?
xxdiogenescynicxx 5 months ago
just started listening to his band and now love this dude (somewhat).
gimmetehroids 6 months ago
Selling out would be making a tune SOLELY for a commercial. Rollins doing those ads wasn't selling out, mainly because I think he truly does enjoy Apple's products and not doing JUST for the money.
Kasigi03 6 months ago 5
@Kasigi03 what about those knee-slappin' insurance company ads too? Ya know, I've gotta say, I don't condone widow-robbin, or cancer-case bailouts, but they sure are cute
C'MON! GET WITH THE FUCKIN PROGRAM!!!
Kull405 5 months ago
He's actually pretty dead wrong. The bands are NOT just "getting paid". They're only getting money at all because a lot MORE money will be made off of it, which sure as hell will not be going to the band.
They aren't just attempting to sell products either. They're attempting to manipulate/shape people's attitudes. And in case no one noticed, they're largely succeeding.
They didn't get paid for their music because it was dangerous to the big money. And they shouldn't be able to buy it.
Schlameil 6 months ago
@Schlameil I truly hope your being sarcastic, but by the length of the comment I guess you're not. Otherwise I guess you don't know how the fucking world works after all these years. Your attitude is what the ad is attempting to fix and, honestly, you have to be fucking thick not to understand the term selling out.
TeKnoKarot 5 months ago
@TeKnoKarot What ad?
Schlameil 5 months ago
@Schlameil sorry, this video. The point is, who the fuck cares?
TeKnoKarot 4 months ago
*cough* Weezer *cough cough*
joesmomisdead 6 months ago
Selling out is compromising your artistic integrity. If you make songs about "Screw corporations" and your music is used in an ad for some corporation's service or product, that is selling out. If your music gets used to sell something completely unrelated to corporations like ladies' garments from a local, independent lingerie shop, this isn't selling out.
Henry nails it early on - "If you made the album you were told to make instead of the one you wanted to make, you're selling out".
InfoNaut0 6 months ago
Mr Rollins. Thank you. Ive never heard you sound more pro Free Market / conservative. You rock.
Kevitivity 6 months ago
> "We have arrived." Very true. CPAs, MBAs screwing health care clients, and predatory lawyers are now so likely to be tattooed and pierced no one even noticed THEY are the greedy sociopathic whores controlling our culture now.
cordedpoodle 6 months ago
THE GENERIC BACKGROUND MUSIC!!!...huh?
FractalBolt 6 months ago
AC/DC comes out in a shitload of Movie Trailers, and Movies.
walmart?
AC/DC sold out
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787Dusty 7 months ago
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787Dusty 7 months ago
oh but like napalm death got fucked over from nike using there song for commercial ..... just saying
MrDjVulgar 7 months ago
@MrDjVulgar WAIT WHAT? NAPALM DEATH? NIKE? WHAAAT?
rg813 7 months ago
@rg813 yeah it was a basketball commercial not sure but maybe kobe bryant was in it i jsut looked for it real fast but it is late here so but yeah if ur bored im sure if u look for it long enough ull find it... i seen it on a website i dont remmeber if it was a youtube video or not
MrDjVulgar 7 months ago
@MrDjVulgar what when was this???!?!?!
viletree 6 months ago
This guy is such a sell out. He's lost his vision, and given up his integrity, he's letting the man tell him what to do, and it saddens me to think that someone who was once a shining beacon of hope for speaking your mind, without any bullshit, is now working for the very thing he stood against.
MrThedalaillamaknows 7 months ago
Why not...not watch adverts?!
Ever.
weavehole 7 months ago 2
the more you know.
NXX1 7 months ago
eh, but the point of putting the song in the commercial is to bring the brand (not the band) to mind every time you hear it from then on. doesn't ruin the band, but it does ruin the song. the corporate invades the culture in this way, and not vice versa.
tvrmx 7 months ago
I was happy when I heard the Black Keys in commercials, at least they're making money (they derserve) and most of the time I don't even remember what company the commercial belongs to, just that I heard the Keys. My brother even likes the Keys now because of commercials and he only listens to hip-hop and r&b.
weirdchick216 7 months ago
0:50 I agree with that statement right there.
railcamp09 8 months ago
To me selling out is not selling your music but losing your musical vision.
breakingthe4thwall 8 months ago 25
@breakingthe4thwall or selling your musical vision for financial gain
spittingbloodhc 4 months ago
@spittingbloodhc You just contradicted what I said. What's wrong with making money?
breakingthe4thwall 4 months ago
@breakingthe4thwall nothing if you're making money off the album you want to make, everything if your making money off the album you're told to make.
spittingbloodhc 4 months ago
@spittingbloodhc So? Just cause the music is less raw, doesn't mean anything. Musical taste is subjective; based on both the listener and artists. Are plumbers better plumbers if there making money based off of what they're told to make or if they are following their own thing? I'm sure even pop stars enjoy what they are doing, and that's what matters.
Don't get me wrong, I'll listen to black flag any day over Kesha or w.e new bs artist that's on the radio.
breakingthe4thwall 4 months ago
@breakingthe4thwall we could get in to all sorts of debates in to the positive effects on the artist and society as a whole making an album you want to make has, as can be seen via the punk movement! Whether or not happiness takes a back seat to honesty and message is again, as you rightly pointed out, entirely subjective for every member of society. I was merely adding on to what I subjectively believed the term "selling out" to mean, regardless of whether or not it was also what you thought.
spittingbloodhc 4 months ago
@spittingbloodhc I'm okay with that.
breakingthe4thwall 4 months ago
I would very much like to hear Henry Rollins utter the famous Herm Edwards quote
"HELLO. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME."
I would like to hear that one time.
Crickett2814 8 months ago
I was always happy to hear a song I knew on a commercial. When I did it showed that I was not the only one who recognized that there was this band and they were effin awesome.
Auhrykk 8 months ago
the bunch of cvnts below me are condratictory and dont make sense.
music has an industry. the profit motive is the captial monetary system and its commerce.
if any artist would care about getting their art heard or seen, they should give it free into the public. think beyond the socioeconomic system.
SlimeTron5000 8 months ago
@SlimeTron5000 anyone who is a full time musician and not on a major label is still going to want to be paid there are things called RENT and FOOD needed to survive and its not free just like music is not free, they arrent paid for the hours spent on creating this art and studios believe it or not DO charge money for you to record when youre not on a major label. i believe stealing this art online or bootlegging has destroyed good music thats why good bands sell out and make commercial BS.
BiGLoS2212 8 months ago
@BiGLoS2212 you don't need money to survive. you believe that you do because you only know anything of your upbringing in society
SlimeTron5000 8 months ago
@SlimeTron5000 I did not create this world I only live in it so the harsh reality is that if i dont work my rent doesnt get paid and i have nowhere to live and nothing to eat. what about you? do you work to pay rent? do you pay for your own food? who paid for your computer? the electricity for your pc? or your internet service? do your parents pay for all of that? and btw art also coasts money to make, materials and equiptment dont just fall from the sky. i am very interested in your answers
BiGLoS2212 8 months ago 3
Who bares the weasel?
Why is Rollins still talking.
I can see him talking but can only hear nothing.
Why is this so sticky--who bares the weasel?
parafleet 8 months ago
damn straight! I love it when something even slightly alternative that i love is playing in the background of an ad, just the other day 'natural's not in it' by gang of four was on an xbox advert. guitar hero though i hate
fuckamericanidiot 8 months ago
I CAN SHOUT AND FUCKING SWEAR SO IT'S OKAY TO BE A HASBEEN CORPORATE WHORE!
annedrodgyness 9 months ago
i can't stand punk "purists" >_< they make all these rules for punk rock.....that makes no fucking sense....its PUNK rock! the point is to do what you want and not what you're told to! so why are you making rules for the rule-less?? arrghh!!
michael822212 9 months ago
@michael822212 So true.
discohunter12 8 months ago
@michael822212 then i want to drop my hot muddy friends on the carpet whence your house is foundered.
SlimeTron5000 8 months ago
i hate the term "selling out"....but henry rollins is absolutely right
michael822212 9 months ago
when a corporation uses a piece of music to sell a product its called marketing. They search out the demographic they want to reach. Then find the artist they feel speaks to those consumers. They have no care of what the song means. They just want you to buy shit. To an artist a song should be a part of you. Like your child. Would you hand your child over to someone who doesn't care about it.? Who would gladly exploit it for personal gain? Are you a parent or a pimp? An artist or a shill?
littlemorethanapes 9 months ago
When the fuck has The Fall ever been in an add?
sonictrasher 9 months ago
@sonictrasher surely that's missing the whole point? and when the 'fuck'? really?
fuckamericanidiot 8 months ago
Generic background music. It's a fucking car commercial, who cares if you like the music or not?
PolyphonicPress 9 months ago
I LOVE HIM. SO RIGHT. FUCK PUNKS WHO JUDGE EVERY1 ON PUNKNESS
theChipPunks 9 months ago
Each to their own.. it isn't selling out if they are happy with the size of the moron population.
I just wish rockstars would come out afterwards and say, "Bwahahaha thanks for the money, retards; Coke tastes like ball sweat".
Good music is good music. Advocating shit is advocating shit.
drpuki 9 months ago
As Henry says, money doesn't mean selling out. Being a fake little bitch is selling out, making what you love and happening to make money from it isn't.
Szaam 9 months ago
They "arrived" when they made that fine music
benkissinger 9 months ago
You are right, not all music is rebellious. But Rollins has built his entire career on rebellion, and now he's advocating selling it. That's called hypocrisy. Britney Spears and company can feel free to do all the commercials they want. Incidentally, I don't know who was attacking corporations, but it makes you sound stupid by rushing to defend them based on talking points from an episode of South Park.
hal900x 9 months ago
This is the first time Henry has said something I thought was utter bullshit. What a fucked up argument. Musicians aren't supposed to be guaranteed a living. It's an art, you do it for a hobby, you do it for love, you do it because it's in your blood. If you make money at it without compromise, great. If you have to compromise your ideals to make money from music then leave it as a labor of love, you self-entitled fuck.
hal900x 9 months ago
@hal900x
Some of the most pretentious bullshit I ever heard in my life. What the fuck is so self compromising about letting someone use a song in a commercial and making money from it? "Oh, but corporations are soooo evil!" Really, maybe that was never a part of the artists ideal in the first place.
frinkmhey 9 months ago
@hal900x I agree,for everything so REAL this BS artist says he says something like this little bit about selling out Then drinks some coffee sux up to Gene simmons for selling sounds and bashes K.Richards about drugs on a guitarist top 10 list or some other impulsive banter and if you confront him he will change the subject or turn it around in someway then blow you off Believe me.If he quits running his mouth and just sings like a performing seal he would be doing himself and the world a favor.
customtatz 9 months ago
Good man.
skateforzero357 9 months ago
Henry is always on point man. Trying to make a living in the music business is 1) nearly impossible 2) see #1
zbs28 10 months ago
Henry's right. You're not selling out if you have artistic integirty and you used said integrity to make the record you wanted to make. If somebody AFTERWARDS wants to use a 15-second clip and pay the band for it, what's the big deal?
YouGotWoodRolled 10 months ago
omg who's that guy that was brilliant
Wesh67300 10 months ago
To quote Maynard James Keenan from the song "Hooker with a Penis", "I SOLD OUT LONG BEFORE YOU EVER EVEN HEARD MY NAME".
uiruu 10 months ago 2
i am glad metallica never sold out
67675656565655656565 10 months ago
@67675656565655656565 Dude, now THAT is funny.
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850Nexus 10 months ago
asshole.
Wilcofan1121 10 months ago
Just cause he yells it and says it loud don't make it so. You take money from Evil Corporations you are evil by association, money isn't everything.
tallnywrtr 10 months ago
@tallnywrtr the fuck do you know about good and evil? You're giving an "evil" corporation money just by using the internet and viewing this video.
reydemagival 8 months ago
"pay them double, pay them now, it's about fucking time". LOL
222sco 10 months ago
Nothing against making money, but I have to wonder if these artists have any respect for their own creations. I understand it if it's some band that hasn't really broken yet; the commercial can get their music out there. But people like Pete Townsend, whose music I love by the way...it's like, how much money do you need, Pete? Aren't you a friggin' multi-millionaire? Ever consider these songs might actually mean something to us, we might not want to see them cheapened on GMC commercials?
MckyMseNTarotCrds 11 months ago
I have always felt that way, people started a band because they like music, and we all have it in our heads, man wouldn't it be great if we got a deal and became super famous? Bands doing what they need to get money to me isn't selling out, that is just getting your bills paid, bands doing things they wouldn't do for personal reasons, is selling out. Off to my bartending job because my band didn't get the opportunity to sell out, :(
crescendopez 11 months ago
Woah...
I expected to disagree with Henry on this as a libertarian, but I fully agree with him.
Oyaji291 11 months ago
If one is not a sell out for selling their songs to corporations, then what is a sell out exactly? The whole concept of punk rock is essentially envy. Low to middle class white kids angry that they don't have what rich people have. Henry also drives a BMW, which is the epitomizes yuppie ostentatiousness . I find it ironic that he's telling ME what a sell out is. What a JERK!!!!
PATYPUS3 11 months ago
he's 100% right............
verveshawn 11 months ago
What about Tom Waits? He doesn't allow his music to be used in Ads. Is he an idiot for doing that? I think not.
PATYPUS3 11 months ago
Henry is right here. But he's done the sell out thing too by doing things like Apple computer ads for magazines years ago.
Satchel334 11 months ago
@Satchel334 I remember that ad. I also remember an interview he did with Alternative Press around the time "Weight" was out - he said what he got paid by Apple for that print ad was a color scanner that he started using so that they could do much of the work for 2.13.61's book releases in-house!
cjmarsicano 11 months ago 13
@Satchel334 I completely disagree with Rollins here. I would MUCH rather have to endure some generic background music because it would help to ensure that the capitalist f*cks that put the ad together will receive much lower profits. Punk rockers need to finally grow some balls and have some integrity when it comes to standing up for what is right. How do you think Rollins would feel if Adolf Hitler wanted to use a Black Flag song when promoting the VW Beetle?
tiohero 9 months ago
@tiohero dude, the very internet you just used to post that comment? Maybe you didn't, but someone somewhere paid the capitalist fucks called your ISP so you could even make that comment. You wanna talk shit about corporate/capitalist America, get your shit straight and don't talk out of your ass, and please don't resort to the fucking Hitler argument. That shit gets old REAL fast.
reydemagival 8 months ago
@Satchel334 Some would also consider the former singer of Black Flag having a syndicated TV show a "sell out"...
siriusisastar 8 months ago
i love it and can't stop laughing at the last 30 seconds of it. Rollins is so right on.
222sco 11 months ago
Some of these bands are just fucking greedy though and have already made millions off their albums anyway, but they figure they can squeeze just a bit a more money out of them by whoring out to advertisers.
hschan4 11 months ago
Tell it like it is henry
stoogefest16 11 months ago
Nah. I still think putting shaking hands with corporate businessmen sucks.
skulldrix 11 months ago
so angry, so brilliant!
jonoortrev 11 months ago
Good call Henry. MAybe bands got into the mainstream because some other people might like them
dinkibass 11 months ago
YEAH!!! I guess we fucking reach the top!!! We choose the music now!
rejectminority 1 year ago
Instead of buying the car from the ad I go buy the interesting band's album from the ad.
guttermoth 1 year ago 41
@guttermoth Without a doubt the best response to the "sellout" chants I have ever seen.
Tonezone 1 year ago
@guttermoth I buy every car I see on TV.
noneofyoucanspell 7 months ago
Amen Henry, Amen.
commoguru 1 year ago
I like to imagine that he screamed broke the screen behind him, right after shooting this :P
HelloImHenriette 1 year ago
I agree with all of this. But its a shame that Henry Rollins is the most annoying person currently alive.
JimboEarl 1 year ago
fucking love this!! brilliantly said
petapanning 1 year ago
he's actually kind of annoying when he's being all pissed off without some guitars and a drumkit to back him up..
TheOnkruidt 1 year ago
Why is he so angry?
JordanBandS 1 year ago
@JordanBandS because he's Henry Rollins.
YouthEnergy 1 year ago
@YouthEnergy haha i seriously was gonna say that too.....because he is henry rollins der
NosferatuNite 11 months ago
"Selling out is when you make the record you're told to make instead of the record you want to make."
I don't think I've ever heard a more concise and accurate description of what selling out truly is. The term is thrown around way too much and often without any actual meaning. When it comes down to it everyone loves their fave band because of the music. What does it matter that they put out tons of merch or appear in infomercials selling cookware as long as the music is still theirs?
62SG 1 year ago
The only way you can avoid being called a sellout by punk elitist pricks is to live in total poverty and never record your music or play live.
bobokk 1 year ago
I agree. If you are good (ie. Pinkerton) reward them for their efforts. Incidentally, Rivers hates Pinkerton, but the fans love it.
AdobeGillis 1 year ago
@AdobeGillis Pinkerton was EPIC!!! (Maybe not for Rivers) My fav album so far! The albums after that of course can't measure up to pinkerton or the blue album but they're are still great! Weezer is like the most geeky-nerdy-so-called-punk band i guess, they do whatever they want is what i mean... "I'm gonna do the things that i wanna do, I ain't got a thing to prove to you" ~ pork n beans (nothing like sticking up to the man!)
rejectminority 1 year ago
Haha YES! Nicely said! Come on guys, I haven't used the term "sell-out" since I was 14. So, if you're a self righteous <14, fine. Otherwise, grow up. I recently got really annoyed when I heard a Pogues song on a commercial, but really... It's the Pogues! I don't know why they allowed that, but I trust their judgement. The thing is, the bands want to be able to keep making music and we want them to keep making music, and the only way they can do that is if they make a buck off of it.
FlutedTubePan 1 year ago
@FlutedTubePan The Pogues are sell outs if they gave their song to a corporation. There are musicians who refuse to give their music to Ads. Those musicians are NOT sell outs. If the Pogues want to write jingles then they should write jingles. I don't have a problem with them making a buck. I'm sure that they don't either. But, let's call a spade a spade here.
PATYPUS3 11 months ago
Truth. This man speaks it.
8Tails 1 year ago
hahah of course he thinks this way, or at least fools himself to out of greed, he is in a god darn car commercial! So you cant really get an unbiased view from the guy can you? he is a sellout himself :) go play the warped tour Henry.
squidracerX 1 year ago
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