Shoah (film) - Part 6/59

[JanuszAdamWalters]

Witold Pilecki (see wikipedia) - an immensely courageous officer of the underground army - who volunteered to be taken to Auschiwtz in order to provide intelligence about workings of the camp. Pilecki escaped from Auschwitz and his report was smuggled to the Western Allies who were asked by the Poles to destroy railway routes leading to Auschwitz in air force attacks. But I do understand the idea of this outstanding documentary is to talk to the alive.

[JanuszAdamWalters]

Some crucial words spoken by peasants are missing in translation - like when the first chap mentions that the whole village considered what Germans did "barbarian" (in Polish - "barbarzynski"). Did not make it any further (than the Polish original).

[cercopiteco1]

@cercopiteco1 Lanzmann, instead of criminalizing the Polish peasants around camps or lager, should have interviewed the polish who gave thier live to protect Jews ...and further more I wonder what Lanzmann in the guise of a Polish farmer would have done at that time.

[05891460]

@cercopiteco1 It doesn't seem to me that Lanzmann is criminalizing them at all. He is just asking questions. He is not accusing them of anything. He isn't trying to make them feel bad, he is just asking what happened.

[zamel1981]

Nigdy nie mogłem zrozumieć, dlaczego niektórzy Polacy - świadkowie Zagłady - opowiadając o tych strasznych czasach ledwie kryli uśmiechy. Diabelskie uśmiechy tych prymitywnych chłopów mówią więcej, niż słowa. To widać, jak ci ludzie byli przesiąknięci niemiecką ideologią rasistowską i kościelnym antysemityzmem. Żaden porządny chrześcijanin opowiadając o cierpieniach drugiego cżłowieka i jego śmierci, nie miałby uśmiechu na twarzy...

[holahopper]

@zamel1981

Nie wiem o czym piszesz i uważam, że to trochę nie fair. Nie jest żadną tajemnicą, że Polacy najwięcej pomagali Żydom w Europie, mimo kary śmierci za taką pomoc właśnie na terenie Generalnego Gubernatorstwa. Pisząc słowo Polacy, warto byłoby o tym nadmienić. Zadaj sobie lepiej pytanie, czy ty byłbyś zdolny do takiego poświęcenia i ryzykowania nie tylko swojego życia ale też rodziny.

[zamel1981]

@holahopper

Wiem na pewno, że nie byłbym zdolny do bezinteresownego denucjowania ludzi, dla których onaczało to śmierć, ani za flaszkę wódki, ani złoty pierścionek. Nie b←łbym też w stanie żądać od konających w wagonach brylantów za butelkę wody ze studnii. Polacy zachowali się jak świnie w czasie wojny wobec Żydów i nie zmienią tego drzewka w Yad Vashem, bo można przecież było być człowiekie w tych nieludzkich czsach, a nie świnią czy bydlakiem. Już wiesz, o co mi chodzi czy nie?

[hraboss]

@feckteck if you meant czeslaw borowi (the guy in the red shirt), he's speaking Polish

[idcgn]

@hraboss yes, polish :-)

[feckteck]

what language is the guy in the red shirt talking in in?

[Seanus32]

@feckteck Yeah, it's Polish. A language I use every day now but I learned French long b4 I ever heard it :) I've been a translator between English and Polish but her translation skills are immense!! Much better than mine :) Czesław is a nice guy by the seems of it.

[algs229635]

Well I think that these people did not mind the screaming Jews, for its simplicity, simply because they understand that they could not do anything to help, really simple just put yourself in their position

[evesjrr]

thank you for posting this.

[AllieCat356]

@v 7:29, HOW IN GODS NAME CAN THEY LAUGH AT WHAT HAPPENED THERE? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM. YET PEOPLE WONDER HOW OTHERS LET IT HAPPEN.  SICKENS ME!!!!!!!

[diw2]

@AllieCat356 they are simple village men, i dont think they laughing in bad intentions, thats just the way they are; not very intelligent and manered, I'm not trying to justify what they doing though, just explain their behaviour... Lanzmann shows it all. Regards.

[lanquide]

@AllieCat356 that was one shallow comment.

[AllieCat356]

@lanquide how is it shallow, i think u misunderstood, or im misunderstanding u, or i wrote it wrong. now im confused.

[Aethelhald]

@AllieCat356 They only laughed when they were explaining that the Ukrainians shot up the hill at them if they tried to stop and look, they weren't laughing at the suffering of those in the camp down the hill.

[P1B1U1H1]

@AllieCat356 There is little point in opposing the Nazi's militarily when you do not have an army to back you up. This lesson was learned in the Ukraine Pogroms. The Nazi's murdered 3,000,000 Catholic Poles as well, & likely would have killed the rest in due time.

[dovie2blue]

@AllieCat356 I think you can tell how little they really care. "If you cut your finger, it doesn't hurt me." It's just the Jews, not them, you see. People wonder how this happened. It can happen again.

[cercopiteco1]

@dovie2blue do not criminalized the Polish , they are not responsible for the Holocaust even though there was envy and annoyance toward Jews beacuse, more educated, occupying key positions in society (doctor, pharmacist, teacher, lawyer, dealers) that's just a matter of social envy, even if not justified .. the truly responsibility for the Shoah are America and England, who knew everything from the beginning and did nothing because they feared a massive emigration of Jews from 'Europe.

[errolnisha]

if u call over 5 mil human beings being treated at the value less than an animal and being sadistically murdered "overdoing it" , then yes, i agree.