Who is Dr. Del Tackett?

[paynegl]

Got no problem with Jefferson and Paine. Just don't lump Washington in with them. Also, at worst, Franklin was a deist not an atheist. "I've lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing Proofs I see of this Truth — That God governs in the Affairs of Men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his Notice, is it probable that an Empire can rise without his Aid?" Speech to the Constitutional Convention (28 June 1787); Library of Congress. Peace.

[MindofaJedi]

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind."

—Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794

[MindofaJedi]

The Founding Fathers were pretty much in agreement that the Bible was a fraud . All you have to do is read Jefferson , Franklin , Paine , or Washington and you can CLEARY see they were not Christian and had a very low opinion of the Christian church .

[paynegl]

From the prayers of George Washington: "[P]ardon, I beseech thee, my sins, remove them from thy presence, as far as the east is from the west, and accept of me for the merits of thy son Jesus Chris... give me grace to hear thee calling on me in thy word, that it may be wisdom, righteousness, reconciliation and peace to the saving of the soul in the day of the Lord Jesus." Be careful parroting what you hear from liberal propagandists.

[MindofaJedi]

@paynegl Nope ,. I will sticke to what the foundin fathers daid themselves . That they weren't Christians . Lighthouses are more useful than churches -Ben Franklin . the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State - James Madison .

[paynegl]

@MindofaJedi Re James Madison: "Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ." --America's Providential History, p. 93

[paynegl]

Re Thomas Jefferson: "God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?" Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

[MindofaJedi]

@paynegl Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."

—Thomas Jefferson, letter, 1787 All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."

—Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794

[kjbadger]

I have done this 12 week course 4 times and each time I am amazed at the clear course our creator has set for his people, the clear creator designed patterns found in creation and the Biblical accuracy of the course. The Father of Lies loves to decieve believers -cling to the truth as revealed in Holy Scripture!

[windigo77]

@kjbadger Wow, do you hear yourself? You sound like a raving lunatic... You probably are.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Why? Because he thinks there is design patterns in creation? The father of lies comment?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 The father of lies comment. yes. The creator did not design patterns in creation btw. If there is a divine creator, explain why the voice-box nerve of a giraffe has to go all the way to the chest, wrap around an artery and then all the way back up the neck? If the giraffe was made by an intelligent designer, I doubt he would make that mistake. More likely the nerve used to be a direct path in a fish-like ancestor, and couldn't be rewired as evolution doesn't allow rewiring.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Don't be a schmuck. You know very well that only a biologist with a PhD in his field can answer a question like that right off the top of his head. So you're not impressing anyone with your off the wall questions. I will add, however, that I'm sure there is a reason and that a nerve in a giraffe doesn't undo everything for theism.

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But let's focus on the father of lies comment: why is that lunacy?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Umm, actually no. I can show you the nerve - watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0 

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 The nerve in the giraffe proves either that we (as humans) are a result of Natural Selection and Evolution, or that God has ZERO foresight - in which case he gave humans a gift that even HE didn't have. If God made the Giraffe, you wouldn't think he would base it on the design of a Fish, and wire AROUND that design, when he could much more easily simply re-reroute the nerve form point A to point B, and save a good 10 feet of nerve.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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What you present is a false dilemma: "either God is not God or the giraffe evolved." Like I said, such an extravagant question like the one you asked cannot be readily answered.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Actually, no it's not a false dichotomy. I suppose there is one other possibility I did not mention: "God put it there on purpose" But the nerve exists. You say God did it, I say Evolution did it. If your right, then God has no foresight, or made it unnecessarily long on purpose.

It's not a false dilemma. You need to study more.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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It is a false dilemma. The nerve can have a purpose for being the way it is. And don't tell me to study more, youngster. The only way you even knew about this nerve was from watching a four minute long clip of Richard Dawkins lol.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Actually, I've seen the entire documentary (along with hundreds of others) They also dissect a bunch of other animals. It's very interesting. I used that example because it's usually the easiest for creationists to understand (you gotta take it easy on them). You SERIOUSLY think a nerve has a purpose for going all the way from the brain, around the heart, and back up to the voice box... seriously? Lets not forget that humans are sometimes born with tails, and that whales with hind legs

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Please, we are not discussing atavisms or alleged vestigials, so do not digress from the discussion.

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Your argument from the giraffe's nerve is ironically a theological argument: "if God is real, He would not have made this nerve like this." But one must ask why such a claim is valid?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 It's valid because it's valid.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 I'm not on here to debate. I'm here to be myself. If you want to debate, goto a website where people debate. I'm here to tell it like it is, your an idiot if you are going to simply disregard the information I presented with such flagrant disregard for honesty, reality, and TRUTH. Something that you are obviously not interested in, and care little about. If you ARE interested in REALITY, and TRUTH, then you would address the claim, instead of disregarding it as 'invalid'.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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So if anyone disagrees with you and puts your claims to the test, they are an "idiot." I see...

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Um.. when the claim is that I have to defend my right to make a claim, or the validity in making a claim (how do you validify a claim - it's a claim!)..... yes.. you are an idiot.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Your argument is that God would not design a nerve like that and therefore that God must not exist. My response was asking why that theological argument you make is right?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 If God were "Intelligent" (and all powerful) he would not design a nerve like that. YOU are intelligent. Would YOU design a nerve like that? - And don't go trying to change the definition of 'intelligent' on me. If you believe in INTELLIGENT design, then explain to me why an INTELLIGENT person would chose to design a machine in such a blatantly ridiculous way. I suppose his motives could be "beyond me", but that's unlikely, and unconvincing. Life isn't "intelligently" designed. EOL

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 I can claim my shoes are red. You test that claim by looking to see if my shoes are red... You don't have to... what were the words you used: "But one must ask why such a claim is valid?" - This sentence does not make sense. It's valid because it's true. God is not an intelligent designer. He shows it in ALL HIS WORKS. The argument if God made a giraffe to be functional, but illogical? God is illogical? Is that what your trying to say?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Just as you are OVERLOOKING by claiming something as absurd as me using a false dichotomy, so you CHANGE WHAT I SAID.

Unfortunately you are incredibly stereotypical, and I've learned from experience that you aren't interested in listening. Go about your life, waiting for the day when you find yourself in a world so alien, that you end up on the streets because you can't keep up with the times. My generation is primarily Atheist, so have fun being a dinosaur!

[AgApE010]

@windigo77 - "My generation is primarily atheist, so have fun being a dinosaur!" - windigo in 1930s-40s Germany: "My generation is primarily Nazi, so have fun being a dinosaur!" - I hope you see the error. - "One day you'll end up on the streets" - LOL! How do you figure?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Simple. We automate your job away. Are you implying that Atheism is somehow related to Nazi's, who are PRIMARILY Christians?

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Hmmm, and what is my job? I guess I kind of gave it away in my last comment....

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No, I wasn't equating atheists with Nazis. I was merely showing the absurdity of your remark. By the way, when did Jesus say to annihilate the Jewish people, which He Himself was a part of?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 I think a more important question is how that (or any of your replies tonight) matter in the slightest to the lingual nerve, or creationism.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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You made a theological claim/argument based on that nerve, to which I responded by questioning the validity of your claim, to which you have not responded.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 I never said that God is not God. I simply said he has no foresight (that humans HAVE [because we're intelligent]). Don't put words in my mouth. Maybe the God who created it is just stupid, and didn't realize he was making a never a good 10 feet too long <- that's another possibility. I didn't rule anything out, I just said that your God made a DUMB ASS mistake, IF he exists!

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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If God doesn't have foresight then God is not God. It follows logically.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 The only argument is that either God exists, or he doesn't. He can't 'kinda' exist. Get your terms right. I didn't say evolution was necessarily true, I just said it's a better explanation that your 'Intelligent Design' theory that contains a 'Creator' SO STUPID that he didn't realize that he shouldn't make a nerve that goes all the way down the neck, around the heart, and back up to the voice box.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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You haven't even heard the ID explanation about this nerve. How presumptuous of you.

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I must say, that along with that, your ranting against God (the all caps are especially subtle) shows that your atheism or agnosticism is more emotionally driven then intellectually or logically driven.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 No... You see, I'm from "the internet generation" - I use UPPERCASE in order to place emphasis. It helps people understand what I'm saying 10x better than if I attempted to be "grammatically correct". It is entirely intellectually driven. Anytime I make fun of somebody by calling them retarded, or some kind of arrogant conclusion is partially that I'm exceedingly arrogant (as I should be, it's good for myself-esteem).

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 In addition. This new "Internet World" that you are probably recently becoming acquainted with, I have been doing for...... 15 years? I've gotten very impatient, and when dealing with people who CONSTANTLY overlook KEY WORDS that I say. I've learned that if I UPPERCASE THEM, people are less likely to 'purposefully overlook' them.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Words like "dumb ass" and "stupid" are not so subtle as to be overlooked or to need emphasis of any kind. Again, it shows your emotional motivations.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 So... am I not allowed to put ANY emotion into what I'm saying? I mean, you sure do put plenty in YOURS: "The Father of Lies loves to decieve believers -cling to the truth as revealed in Holy Scripture!" - Should I disregard everything you say, just because you have an 'emotional bias'?

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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No, I'm not saying you're not allowed to use emotion. I'm just pointing out that when we got heavier into our discussion you became very upset and emotional, unlike when we first started our discussion. That says something. I'm just saying. And I'm working towards a Psych degree, so sorry, I can't help seeing this stuff...

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Well, you apparently aren't so good at picking up emotion over the internet. I have Aspergers Syndrome. Maybe that will help you understand my 'emotiveness'. Or my 'unusual use of language'.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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I'm terribly sorry to hear that. Truly. But my point was to point out that your objections to God were more emotionally driven, not logically or rationally driven.

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Sorry, i'm having a bad night. I'm feeling unusually bitter and angry. It's nothing personal.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Not a problem, dear friend. 

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 Focusing on your 'father of lies' comment - First your accusing people who disagree with you of being the 'Father of Lies' ala Satan. - That is lunacy my friend. If I went around calling everybody 'Satan', they'd lock me up.

[AgApE010]

@windigo77

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Actually, no one was calling YOU or any individual "Satan." "Father of lies" is a title that Jesus gave to Satan. That's what the kjbadger person was speaking of. And I think you are painting this individual in an extremely exaggerated picture. All he did was mention the Biblical term "father of lies" and you make him out to be as someone going around calling everyone disagreeing with him about something "Satan." Kind of absurd of you, don't you think?

[windigo77]

@AgApE010 I can't help but tell you that I'm really not interested in discussing whether or not god is 'logical', 'sensible' or 'foresightful' - I'm only interested in talking about if he is INTELLIGENT. Which he is very obviously not, using the nerve as an example.

[lissaskew]

I admire and have such respect for Del Tackett! The course is definitely mind transforming..can't express how wonderful the class it..it has to be experienced. Everyone should experience the Truth Project. The way Del presents things is truly remarkable.

[MindofaJedi]

Who is Dr. Del Tackett ? A pathetic compulsive liar .

[AgApE010]

@MindofaJedi

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What did he lie about?

[LUMINOX72]

WISH THIS GUY WOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT!

[sideeastside]

How sad all of you commenting below my post.  As the Holy Scriptures reveal, Only a Fool Denies there is God! (And so it goes.) I was brought up in that lie. It's so sad there are so many that don't open up the Bible and just Ask God to reveal Himself!

[glencmac]

I am a devoted Christian (Southern Baptist). I have attended "The Truth" project. This presentation is unchristian, at points blasphemes, and at it's heart evil. I can not list all the hypocrisies in this presentation. If you watch this and get to "El Canna" STOP the DVD and find out who actually says this is a name for God (Answer: Only Tackett). Then GO READ YOUR BIBLE (and not that Message thing, it is so flawed).

[lawrenca333]

@glencmac I'm not sure what your intentions for writing this comment are, but the people reading should know that you are not being sincere. The name of El Canna is not even mentioned in the DVDs. Aside from that, I find it very hard to see how you can make such absolutist and negative statements about the Truth Project. If you are going to make such damning claims, at least give some real supporting reasons for your conclusions.

[XXtaytay4everXX]

@glencmac read exodus 20:5 and explain to me why God calls himself a Jealous God, if that's not who he is.

[madbassskills]

I happen to have attended his piece of trash ramblings. He is a wicked human being who ought to be rambling on a corner with a cardboard sign. Filming his DVDs in a classroom is very deceptive, it gives the impression that he has something intelligible to say.

[carolahb]

You disagree with him, so he is wicked? How so? Just curious, but why did you "attend his piece of trash ramblings"?

[madbassskills]

Because I was invited to, and I am a very stubborn person. Del Tackett can speak all he wants on the subject he was trained in. But it is when he talks about science (and he does so with a great amount of contempt, and clear ignorance) that really gives him away. If everybody listened to this charletain, we would all die very quickly of disease. He needs to open a book or two before speaking any more. But I would perfer for him and the "Focus on the Family" Group to go away. And quickly.

[noizereduction]

Oh, he "considers himself a farm boy" - how sweet.

I bet that will conquer the hearts of a lot of religious bigots, so he can make money. Religious bullshit is like cancer. It just keeps spreading and feeding on people's stupidity, unless we fight it with education and reason.

[UConn1999Champs]

Noizereduction, what led you to view the biography of Mr. Tackett?

Just curious, for one in opposition to Mr. Tackett's point of view why seek out and watch his biography?

[noizereduction]

? Why? Are you pissed off that I actually like to know what I'm talking about?

Someone showed this to me, and I did further investigation on his background. He's closer to a televangelist than a hero.

[uconnhuskydog]

OK.

[carolahb]

And what kind of education would that be? Anyone who doesn't believe what you believe is stupid, and beliefs, other than your own, of course, are bullshit? What is a bigot, anyway? Might you be one? Just wondering...

[madbassskills]

A bigot is anybody who can confidently say homosexuals are evil (as James Dobson and this little jackanape do constantly). And what I was referring to was his views on evolution. The "Goo man" theory he keeps calling it, makes me think he has never read a book on the subject. You are very entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. And if you aren't learned on a subject, you have no right to talk about and call it a lie as he does. What is truth? Not this man.

[lawrenca333]

@madbassskills Actually, Goo Man is correct. Naturalists claim that life arose by spontaneous generation, since there is no other explanation if you exclude God. Primordial slime, ooze, soup, or goo, it means the same thing. The point is that there is a huge divide between a Naturalist and a Christian world-view. In a Christian world-view, you bear the image of God. In a Naturalistic one, you bear the image of primordial goo. I doubt Naturalists would disagree with Del Tackett on this one.

[evet45]

@lawrenca333 And, since we have to deal with life as it is for each person,each generation on a day to day basis, what difference does Goo man make? There is NO magic and creationists want magic. Del you grew up on a ranch and saw evolution in every birth of every animal. You did not see cloning. God made us in his image when he was ready, and if it was from goo, so be it. It is not magic.

[evet45]

@madbassskills I do agree with you. He always picks on Darwin who was naive, and now dead, but never Crick and Watson. Watson is still alive.

[fieryblaze66]

THE GAME

[jerryinnc]

thank you for the truth project it is a eye opener. God Bless and keep up the good work.

[jessica41481]

the truth project is life changing!!!!! i thank god everyday that you did this!

[ckparsons1]

YOu have an amazing gift. I hope do use mine to do the same. Thank you!

[plumbgood2]

God bless you Dr. Del Tackett. Thank you for doing this project. It is much needed in this confused world we live in today. I feel the Lord is going to use this in a big way. It has clarified and filled in some gaps for me. This is truly something special!

[dansbigtrick]

Wish This guy had been one of my professors!

[Beelzebubmon]

Dr. Del Tackett is the most amazing speaker I have ever heard. The Truth project has changed my life in ways I can't even begin to explain. Thank you so much Dr. For what you are doing and may our God continue to bless this ministry.