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  • The announcer who said the "cheapshot of the highest order" is also probably related to the same pussy who came up with the loser ass phrase winning isnt everything. Holleweg had what was coming to him. Chris simon doesnt take shit and when you mess with a guy like him your gonna get fucked. Holleweg and this pussy ass announcer are just ignorant.

  • HIGH STICK!?!, i call that a fucking SLASHING IN THE FACE!!!!

  • Fucking cunt. Stupid ugly fat CUNT!! LOL!

  • Whats wrong with Simon??????? Hes a total dick!

  • chris simon didn't even apologize directly to hollweg during that interview.. what an asshole..cant take a clean fucking hit...disgrace of a player, no class, pure asshole

  • Team guy Simon? Go fuck yourself.

  • ryan hollwag is a fucking cheap shot shit head just like chris simon

  • @baseball02life you truly are a fucking idiot..stick to baseball

  • @lilgretzkypro187 way to sound like a dumbass. you call baseball02life an idiot but in your comment you spell truely wrong hahahah.

  • @madfootballkid sorry if i spell something wrong on the computer...your teaching skills are greatly appreciated

  • How is Hollweg not more pissed?

  • Ryan Hollweg is such a gentlemen. He handled it great

  • simon get your long native warrior hair back!

  • he's so lucky it wasn't a clean shot on his face and clipped some of his arm...hollweg woulda been ruined.

  • Simon is a crackhead

  • u feel bad than why the fuck did u do it,. ur fucking loser

  • the man should be in prison for assault

  • Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore warned, and Moore OWNED. Moore warned, moore.....

  • @hockeyfanredwings Wow, you must really be bummed that it's wintertime and that the street in front of your mom's trailer is too icy to play pickup hockey with your teenage firends.

    But I gotta admit, you're really fixated on the Bertuzzi-Moore thing.

    I figure you're either Bertuzzi himself (in which case you should shoot yourself) or Moore fucked your girlfriend (or boyfriend) behind your back so you're really pissed about that.

    You really need to get psychiatric help about this dude.

  • @TheWitchOvAgnesi

    I am fixated because pussies like moore represent the decline of our culture. duh, instead of manning up I think I will sue. it's sickening. that is why I jumped up to the ceiling and celebrated with my friends when moore went down for good. It represented that moore cannot get away with it.

    I love hockey. hockey has code in it. that code is if you mess up, no worries--fight your fight. but moore pussed and sued. typical avalanche pussy. you have to man up and fight.

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  • @hockeyfanredwings Did Bertuzzi follow the code of "man up and fight"? No, he broke a man's neck punching him when he wasn't looking. He didn't man up, and would you kindly point out the moment Bertuzzi "fought his fight"? Because if in your ignorant "mess up, no worries-fight your fight" world, Bertuzzi messed up but... I didn't see him fight his fight...

  • @CP47

    Bert tried to fight moore. moore was scared. a real bitch, so he ran away. bertuzzi lost it. that what happened.

    If it wasnt for moore's vagina, none of this would have happened.

  • @hockeyfanredwings The tough guys have a code. If a guy doesn't want to go, you don't go. You find a guy who will.

  • simon was a dirty piece of shit. thats the shit that gives hockey a bad rep and makes them make more useless and bullshit rules

  • fact is bertuzzi's hit was actually pretty clean. moore's was a much dirtier hit. it was by surprise. glad moore is gone.

  • @hockeyfanredwings "regardless of whether he meant to do it or not"?

  • @hockeyfanredwings what are you talking about? Bertuzzi punched him from behind and drove his face into the ice. The man should be in prison. On what planet is that clean?

  • @oak3cbc2

    the point is that moore's sucker hit on naslund was the worst assault of that decade.  totally by surprise.

  • @hockeyfanredwings but that's not what you said. You said that Bertuzzi's hit was clean. I understand the intent (he wanted to protect Naslund) but that was a cowardly way to do it. If you have a score to settle, you don't sucker punch a guy in the back of the head. By the way, that hit ruined moore's carreer, Naslund came back, so I disagree with you on the "worst assult of that decade" comment. Have a good day.

  • @oak3cbc2

    of course. bertuzzi's hit was clean. warning and more warning. moore is the coward. when you are asked to fight, you fight. you dont run away. moore had no career anyways. no loss. everyone acts like moore was NOT a garbage player for some reason. he was shit. useless.

  • @hockeyfanredwings STILL sucking Bertuzzi's dick after all this time huh? Literally years spent getting bothered on his knob.

    Wow, I can only assume you've go some huge DSLs!

  • no biggie keep your chin up pal

  • the score is such a shitty channel

  • that has nothing to do wit a hit. he pushes him into the boards from behind. but it's not that important. simon is an idiot, reacting with a vicious slash.

  • ok, very stupid action by simon, there's nothing to discuss...BUT hollweg's hit was just not clean. hits him from behind in the boards. sure, no way for simon to take revenge like that. in my opinion, there referee is also responsible for that because he didn't give hollweg a penalty right after the hit.

  • @mules091 it wasnt dirty comeon it was a clean hit and it was hardly vicious..

  • @MrCragy it wasnt a clean hit. You cant hit someone in the numbers that hard like that. But there is absolutely no excuse for Simon to do that.

  • fuck u a little bastard JEALOUS

  • at least hollweg is tough. he got up.

    steve moore is just a pussy bitch. one widdle fist did the pussy in.

  • @hockeyfanredwings i guess getting your face slammed into the ice doesn't hurt at all

  • @genericnysportsfan10

    not compared to a stick. Hollweg is tough. moore is just a pussy who was fighting wayyyyyyyy out of his weight class.

  • @hockeyfanredwings it broke his neck and made him unconscious you moron.

  • @danynumero6

    I know it did. but thats because moore is a soft necked puss job. man up you pussy moore and fight. glad bertuzzi decided it was moore's time to go. good clean hit by bertuzzi too. not his fault that moore is soft.

  • @hockeyfanredwings what kind of heartless piece of shit are you? How about Moore didn't get up because he couldn't get up because Bertuzzi BROKE HIS FUCKING NECK. Everyone has the same kind of neck. Fighting is not everything in hockey you idiot. Oh yeah, sucker punching someone from behind and and taking both hands and shoving someones face into the ice and knocking them out unconscious is very clean isnt it? Seriously you dont know shit about hockey.

  • @danynumero6

    how is it heartless to notice that steve whine and sue some moore had the chance to man up and fight his due fight with bertuzzi, but pussied out cause he was scared? Not heartless--just telling the truth. Moore GAVE NASLUND A CONCUSSION. nobody ever talks about that. whats worse, moore was too scared to man up.

    whats not clean is elbowing a star player in the forehead. very dirty. glad moore got hurt. I was very happy.

  • @hockeyfanredwings No what Moore did to Naslund wasn't clean. But it still doesnt give that douche Bertuzzi a pass to do that. It was a fuckin playoff game. You rarely ever see fights in the playoffs. You dont start a fight with someone in a playoff game when everything is on the line. He was trying to play the game, Bertuzzi was wrong.

  • @danynumero6 what do u mean u dont see fights in the play offs? thats the most physical hockey of the year

  • @lax21293 exactly as I said, you rarely see fights in the playoffs. Just because you dont see fights doesnt mean there isnt a lot of physical play out there.

  • @danynumero6 now that i think about it you have a point. there are more scrums around the net after a whistle but less fights

  • @hockeyfanredwings yes moore probably should have fought for what he did but give him a chance to fight back. attacking someone from behind is the most pussy way to fight and bertuzzi shouldnt have been allowed back in the league at all. he belongs in jail getting ass raped

  • @lax21293

    if moore didnt have a vagina, none of it would have happened. Moore running away was the biggest bitch move I have seen in pro sports. moore is a real bitch!

  • @hockeyfanredwings Dude you have to be the biggest troll out there. Seriously, do you realize how much you are making an ass out of yourself?

  • you disagree with my position on it, but fact is moore had the chance to man up and fight with bertuzzi. Instead, he was a chicken shit. that's why he got hurt--moore made his own bed. Now, Hollweg. I think he is a punk, but at least he can take a hit and get up. Moore? ha.pussy. one punch sent him packin. shows that he had no talent n was soft. Moore should have thanked Bettman for letting him play. and Burke offered Moore $50K to play on minor team. moore was dumb to not accept.

  • @hockeyfanredwings No your just an ass and just like all other bandwagon hockey fans who think all there is to hockey is fighting. It was a playoff game, he isn't going to fight when everything is on the line. If he had no talent, he wouldn't have been in the NHL you idiot. He couldnt play anymore because his neck was too damaged. Show some fucking sympathy. What Moore did to Naslund was wrong but what Bertuzzi did was worse.

  • @danynumero6

    well, I know the truth hurts, and it's a shame that steve moore is the biggest pussy to ever lace up skates. you never answered--why did Hollweg just get right up? it was a stick! Moore was ruined for life with one widdle fist. what a PUSSY!

    anways, Moore obviously did not have talent. Brian Burke offered him $50,000. lol. thats 50K. to play on the minor league team and moore turned it down. Moore couldnt play anymore cause he sucked. shit player.  truth hurts.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Your idea with what the truth is entirely wrong. Moore retired because he was badly injured. It wasn't just a fist that knocked Moore out. First of all Bertuzzi suckerpunched him but after that he shoved him down with full force into the ice face first. How can that not badly injure someone? And anytime you make it into the NHL, you gotta be a pretty good player. Moore wasn't the best by any means but was good enough to be in the NHL.

  • @danynumero6

    no, moore didnt "retire'. moore sucked. he knew he sucked, and after being demoted to the 4th line permanently moore wanted to make a name for himself as an agitator. so he ran around sucker hittin stars such as martin st louis, steve yzerman, and finally the assault that ended moore's so called ""career""--nazzie.

    bert did not sucker punch at all. he warned and warned. the fact that moore's vagina was lactating is not bertuzzi's fault. Moore was on the way out anyways.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Moore didn't want to play because he was too scared to injure his neck even more. Ok so tell me, besides the elbow Moore did to Naslund what other cheapshot did he do? And what part of the play looked like Moore was running away? He was trying to play. Bertuzzi was being the idiot.

  • @danynumero6

    ok so tell me, how many job offers did moore get after the incident? exactly. I thought so. Bert was asking moore to answer the bell, and moore chickened out and ran. pussy.

    and a sucker is by surprise. this was not a surprise attack unless you are an idiot.

    If moore did what he did to naslund off the ice--just ran up and sucker elbowed a citizen, he would still be in jail for assault.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Moore didn't run away he was trying to ignore Bertuzzi and play the game. What Moore was doing was being smart, he was gonna draw a penalty. He probably knew Bertuzzi was gonna hit him but how was he supposed to expect that he was gonna have a broken neck? Of course Moore wasn't looking for a team to play for because he was too badly injured. Bertuzzi was out of control, had no right to do what he did, and he paid for it.

  • @danynumero6

    moore did indeed run away like the bitch he is. he CANT IGNORE BERTUZZI. get it? He owed him a fight for his payback fight. geez. what moore was doing was being a vagina. moore was looking to get hired again but no team wanted his services.

  • @hockeyfanredwings no he didn't he retired because he broke his neck why is that so hard for you to understand? And your only argument is saying that Moore is a pussy. Can't you come up with any other kind of argument?

  • @danynumero6

    yeah, and the hundreds of thousands of unemployed, broke people in the United States have """retired""" too I guess. lol.

  • @hockeyfanredwings what do you expect. Do you expect him to keep playing after severly breaking his neck?

  • @danynumero6

    moore was healthy. he just sucks at hockey.

  • @hockeyfanredwings if he sucked he wouldn't have made it into the NHL.

  • @danynumero6

    not true. moore was a huge mistake. avs regretted it.

  • @hockeyfanredwings how do you know?

  • @danynumero6

    avs dropped moore to the 4th line, permanently, and he was on the way out when moore started sucker hitting stars. good riddance.

  • @hockeyfanredwings It doesn't matter what line he was on, the fact that he was able to stay until he got injured means that he was good enough. And what other player did Moore hit besides Naslund?

  • @danynumero6

    moore sucker hit martin st louis and yzerman in the weeks before. moore was shit. a true garbage player. glad he is in a wheelchair now

  • @hockeyfanredwings but still it doesn't matter. It doesnt give Bertuzzi a pass to do that. Bertuzzi should've been focusing on the game instead of being a headhunter and trying to hurt him out there. It doesnt matter how much you like the guy or hate the guy, you dont do that.

  • @danynumero6

    bert was just trying to get justice. how would bert know moore would fold so fast. moore dropped like a sack of potatoes. besides, looking back, bertuzzi's hit on moore was fairly clean. moore leaned back into bertuzzi's fist. you know--similar to how the elbow came on the follow through and it was all naslund's fault that moore suckered him :)

  • @hockeyfanredwings Is the your best way of arguing. Making stupid assumptions that you know I wouldnt think? Moore was trying to finish his check, Naslund happened to be down at the wrong time. And again, what Bertuzzi did was not clean. It was from behind. Bertuzzi pulled him back and then punched him and then forced him down.

  • @hockeyfanredwings So you mean to tell that say if your kids played hockey you would tell them "If someone goes up to you and does something you dont like and hits you hard, maybe borderline, then you need to go up and punch him and break his neck and knock him out unconscious"?

  • @danynumero6

    I actually DO tell my kids that they need to enforce the ice. If someone assaults a team member, say an elbow to the captain's head causing a concussion and ending his career--yeah, all bets are off, especially if the guy is a pussy and is trying to avoid his payback fight and is too scared to answer the bell.

    and to call moore's assault on naslund "borderline" is saying jeffrey dahmer didnt mean to wipe out 25 kids. get real. get some perspective.

  • @hockeyfanredwings but it didn't actually end Naslund's career.

  • @danynumero6

    actually it did. nas was not the same after that. and naslud was a REAL player in the NHL. this wasnt moore. this was a star. a guy people cared about.

  • @hockeyfanredwings so whats your point he still played, his career did not end. Scott Stevens hit on Lindros was huge and Lindros was never the same but still played. It's unfortunate but they still played.

  • @danynumero6

    Lindros and Naslund were real players in the league. thats the difference. those guys were not garbage players.

  • @hockeyfanredwings not every player in the NHL is a superstar.

  • @danynumero6

    agree. then those who are not superstars should not go around sucker hitting star players. especially when they have to run from their payback fight.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Some stars have had their mean streaks as well. Chris Pronger and Eric Lindros and Jeremy Roenick for example.

  • @danynumero6

    yep. and chelios. what a piece of shit he is. reoenick is a tool as well.

  • @hockeyfanredwings what are you talking about those 2 had hall of fame careers

  • @danynumero6

    chelios is a jerkoff. period. 

  • @hockeyfanredwings your going against what you said, you pretty much said before that superstars can get away with having mean streaks.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Sadly, unlike Roenick and Chelios, you're boyfriend stands NO chance of making to the HoF.

    None. LOLOL I bet he beats you for that daily doesn't he?

  • @TheWitchOvAgnesi

    Im not a huge fan of bertuzzi, but man--chelios is a total jerkoff abortion piece of shit. same with roenick. Neither are HOF players either. both first class jerkoffs though.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Yeah, sorry. Roenick will be in the HoF.

    Your girlfirend Bertha... never.

    Hey, isn't Chelios with the Redwings now? What's he do there? Handjobs in the lockerroom?

  • @TheWitchOvAgnesi

    geez loser, watch much hockey? that jerkoff chelios retired years ago. lol.

  • @hockeyfanredwings "On August 31, 2010, Chelios officially retired. The same day, Red Wings general manager Ken Holland announced that Chelios would be hired to work in the Red Wings' front office. He was named Executive Adviser to the General Manager, with a role of working with Red Wings' defense prospects in Grand Rapids"

    LOL, you're a fucking cock-gobbler. August 2010 was months ago.

    Who's the fucking poser now, faggot? Too much Bertuzzi cum in your gullet.

  • @TheWitchOvAgnesi

    poser? hmmmm. dont know what that is, but I do know that you are a first class jerkoff like chelios and roenick. sorry I dont follow around chelios to see when that cock sucker eats and sleeps. I didnt realize you were jerkin chelios off.

    now back to moore. My only regret is that bertuzzi didnt force moore to start rolling around in his own blood. I am also glad that bertuzzi caused all that to happen. because of bert, moore's so called """"career"""" ended.

  • @hockeyfanredwings A poser is someone who pretends to be or know everything there is about a subject, but doesn't.

    You're no fan of the sport, that's for sure.

    What I am certain of, though, is your IQ is well below normal.

  • @hockeyfanredwings and now looking back at the play there was no elbow. The elbow came on the follow through after the hit was made. Naslund went down, Moore couldn't stop and made the hit. The league looked at it and said it was legal.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Do you expect him to takt a chance of hurting it even worse by still playing?

  • @hockeyfanredwings and yes Bertuzzi did sucker punch him and shove his face with full force head first into the ice. There's no excuse for that. It doesn't matter if you like the guy or hate the guy you dont do that. If Bertuzzi did what he did off the ice he would be in jail.

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  • only a hockey player would react like hollweg did, laugh it off and be happy about the win

  • whahaxD

  • Simon: I just feel really bad for the team...... -.-

  • Blacks will never control hockey. There are no ice rinks in the ghetto and the ice is cold. And fuck Obama too Muslim terrorist piece of shit.

  • @publicdrunkenes

    agree. Obama is a total jerkoff.

  • What a sicko. I mean, just listen to him speak... he sounds like a serial killer.

  • @austin4226 No he doesn't

  • Hockey is ignorant, but cheap shots like this and fighting are allowed because white people control the sport .. SO ITS OK !!!

  • @mitchset23

    white ppl control the nba too bro. unless david stern has converted to gangsta. I hate the NBA. bunch of overpaid cry babies. NHL salaries are not as large comparatively. a little more in line with reality.

    also, let me guess--you voted for obama due to his skin color (ahem racism at its finest) but deny that was the reason! shocker.

  • @hockeyfanredwings im not white or black but obama isnt doin shit he doesnt even have a birth certificate hes not born in amercia iwould liek to see more from him

  • @CanuckFan96

    ya i dont like obama either.  want more from him too.

  • @mitchset23 hmm well what does this have to do whit white ppl? Sounds weird to me. So if black ppl controlled the sport this wont happen?

  • @xjedimindx

    if blacks controlled hockey, many of the players and GM's would be carryin at the game. not cool. everyone duckin when you hear a loud noise

  • why did steve moore get carried out on a stretcher and hollweg got right up? moore is a pussy

  • chris simon is my boi fuck rangers fuck hollweg

  • @sully596 yea players that cheap shot others are real cool aren't they?

  • holleweg = tough. moore = pussy bitch

  • islanders = BUSH LEAGUE!

  • why is it holleweg can take a rough stick to the head and get right up. one simple fist put steve whine and sue some moore out of the game for good. now all moore can do is sue.

  • he feels bad about letting the team down r u fucking serious!! he coulda killed him fucking douche bag get a life islanders are better without you.

  • i like how he fells bad for the team and not Ryan holloweg

  • @TheRealThang88 I wouldn't feel bad for Hollpig if his career was ended.

  • @NYISLES2191

    at least holleweg got up. moore was a total pussy and one fist ended his so called ""career"" lol

  • @hockeyfanredwings Yes, thats true, but correct me if I'm wrong. Moore threw that one dirty hit and wouldn't fight. So Bertuzzi was frustrated and hit him. Hollweg was known for dirty play. He deserved that. He played dirty as long as he was in the league. Now, he's out of a job. Not because he's injured, but because he sucked.

  • @NYISLES2191

    you got it right. just like moore--out of the league because he sucks. funny how guys out sucker hitting also suck at hockey.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Exactly...that's the only reason they are there

  • @NYISLES2191 why if u just fucking high sticked him like that no CLASS

  • @TheRealThang88

    realthang, the point is that if you remove sucker hitting losers with no talent like steve moore and ryan holleweg, nobody will be pissed off enough to high stick.

  • holleweg got up and went to the bench. lol. like, no problem. meanwhile back at the vagina steve "whine n sue some" moore is still in pain 6 years later. lol.

    pussy.

  • @hockeyfanredwings

    Moore can't play hockey, he had a major concussion, and a broken neck. Any slight head injury could be dangerous, this guy just got hit in the nose, and wasn't knocked onconsious..

  • @ellenpompeo0

    Moore cant play hockey because his vagina is too big. Holleweg is tough. harder hit than moore got and holleweg just went to the bench. lol. says something about moore's lack of balls.

  • @ellenpompeo0

    yeah, moore is a gold diggin little bitch.

  • at least holleweg is tough, unlike steve moore who was in a wheelchair. holleweg got right up.

  • @hockeyfanredwings Wow really? You compare that, too the Bertuzzi hit on Steve Moore? You can't even compare the 2. I am a Bertuzzi fan and a life long Red Wings fan. If you're going to compare the Chris Simon high stick to the Todd Bertuzzi hit, you don't know hockey. Bert's hit was much more brutal.

  • @JitstaUnlimited

    more brutal????? this hit was the dirtiest in the game and the guy got up and went to the bench. moore is a fucking pussy!

  • @hockeyfanredwings Maybe you should watch the Moore hit again. Bertuzzi drove him face first into the ice... puttin all of his weight onto Moore's head and neck. Thus, breaking his neck and yes, temporarily paralyzing him. That is 245 lbs of solid muscle all on your head and shoulders driving you face first into the ground. That would be the equivalent of a piledriver. I'm going to call you Mickey Redmond for now on.

  • @JitstaUnlimited

    Moore knew it was coming, unless of course he has no hearing or sense of touch. lol. Moore' sucker hit on naslund was a total sucker. no warning. Moore, a 4th line pussy, could have served jail time for that.

  • @hockeyfanredwings You've never played hockey Mickey. People try instigating fights all the time, usually when you skate away from them nothing happens. You never expect a 245 lbs gorilla to jump on your head. It's not like Bert was telling him. "Hey asshole, if you don't fight me, I'm just going to jump on your head and end your career."

  • @JitstaUnlimited

    then why was holleweg able to get up and go to the bench dumbass? seems like a much harder hit than the soft punch by bertuzzi on pussy moore.

    and moore had a career?? lol. does he know this? someone should tell him running good players does not a career make !!

  • Hey dumb ass if hockey sucks dont watch videos about hockey and then bitch about it you ignorant ass hole

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  • @jperez1910 are u kidding me. first i will say the hit was a little from behind, but more from the side than anything. its not like it was square int he bak, it was off his left hip n bak of the shoulder. second are u joking "he got what he deserved" really ok step on the ice with me suit up u hit me FROMTHE SIDE then let me take a stick to ur face and see if u feel it was an even exchange!

  • Hollweg is a dirty player, I'm not defending Simon's actions, but, you hit someone from behind, there's an intent to injure.

  • @MrSupertwo bingo.

    i bet many players around the league weren't even upset with simon's actions.

    you can't go around hitting people from behind, which unfortunately hollweg does. this was bound to happen. if you board too many people, someone is going to snap and do something ugly.

  • rangers suck, so it's ok

  • simon sucks that cheap asshole

  • Ha, hes sorry he let his team down, not that he almost killed a guy

  • he didnt even say sorry to hollweg haha

  • you suck

  • Fuckin dirty indian!

  • wut an asshole, he feels bad about letting the team down, but i guess two handing a guy in the face isnt so bad

  • that guy should be kicked ouot for good!

  • They didn't even kick bertuzzi out. He ended Moore's carreer and almost his life. They wouldn't kick Simon out for this.

  • simon should be kicked out of the nhl for intentionally trying to injure people... he stomped on jarko rutto and fucking 2 hands hollwing in the face!

  • He's been out of the NHL for some time now. He's playing in a European Hockey League. It won't be long before they kick him out of there too.

  • What a pussy shot - Simon squats to pee and probably gargles with Vagisil. What a cum dumpster. No teammates will shower with him because he likes to play "drop the soap."

  • simon a piece of shit

  • @danb8949 you a stupid

  • stupid indian

  • fucking redneck hick

  • rofl im canadian you stupid trailer trash

  • That's really disgusting!!

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  • what an asshole

  • i know, eh?

  • @wesley212segundo Yeah Simon is a dick but seriously to say the Islanders dont deserve to be in the NHL is a lil much dont you think? They used to be a great team.