"Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
Armenian Genocide is a fact. It has been proven in court of laws, politicians and historians time and time again. There are millions of archives around the world, including the Washington DC archives.
Turkey's denial of their crime doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Also don't blame the Ottomans, the Young-Turks were the culprits who are in power until now.
90% of the Armenian lands have been occupied and 1.5Million systematically massacred. STOP THE DENIAL!! read about it instead.
We must deny this "holocaust" since this simply incorrect. The first genocide of the 20th century was carried out by Germany in SW Africa in 1916. Armenians suffered a great cultural and humanitarian catastrophe. But this was not genocide. and contrary to what Fisk says there are no "documents". This so called Turkification process was different from the Bulgarisation of Bulgaria or the expulsion of Turks by Greeks or Muslims from Caucasus by Russia in what way? Was this genocide too?
@outsidelight1 Note that the term Genocide was coined by the Jewish lawyer Rafael Lemkin "because of what happened to Armenians in 1915" as he put it in history and you can find his video declaration on YouTube.
The Armenian Genocide was actually started in 1800' under the Ottoman rule and they tried to finalize the extermination of a nation in 1915 and failed. All these are documented and proven to be a Genocide, so there's only one thing remaining-TURKEY TO ACCEPT IT'S GUILT!! as Germany did.
Fisk does not understand that germans admitted, but turks wont because they have not only killed armenians but also taken over their lands todays turkey,so they know that the time they addmit it they have to give back the armenian lands all the way to Greece. That`s the reason why! Every turk knows what happend their forfathers have told them that if they addmitt the truth they have to give back all armenian lands!
@ArmenOfTheNorth your post reminds me of William Saroyan's remark about Armenians, both are sarcastic but have a lot of hidden true meaning:
"I should like to see any power of the world destroy this race.............go ahead, destroy Armenia. See if you can do it. Send them into the desert without bread or water. Burn their homes and churches. Then see if they will not laugh, sing and pray again. For when two of them meet anywhere in the world, see if they will not create a New Armenia."
Turkish contribution to history: - Stealing other cultures and history - Genocide of several nations (Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, Pontic and more...) - Destruction - Killings - Stealing - Rape - Forcibly converting children and women to Islam - Genocide denying ...and more
Turkey invests millions every year for Genocide denial. They have a strong lobby in every country to stop them accepting the Genocide.
Turkish schools have brainwashed their students with fake history. What a shame!!! but fortunately some Turks are smart and are admitting their fault. Sooner or later all Turks have to be re-educated with the truth about their barbaric ancestry.
armenian pestering is incessant look at the swedes they rejected it then the following year it gets excepted because you lot pester annoy and frustrate into submission
thats all it is and no one really cares about armenian or there claims
you should be a little more informed and read just google armenian nazi or nazi armenian collaboration to start6 with , and we'll look at the rest of your misinformed misguided thinking ,dont except what i say google away
and what did the armen ians do for the turks to want to kill them whee is the intent the turks wanted to do away with the armens if we wanted to turkify the armenians why were we tollerant and allowed them to practicwe there religions .
now tell me why did the armenians side with the nazi's and were anti jew ,they had radio weeekly broadcasts ,newspapers and flyers al anti jew
why did they befreind the jews only to toss them over to the nazi for transportation for processing at ausvitze
@halil65 Please read history and educate yourself outside of your censored Turkish schooling.
Armenians were never allowed to practice their language and pray! all the churches were destroyed and are still being destroyed until today!!
The main reason they killed Armenians, Greeks, Kurds and Assyrians is because they wanted to create a pan-turkic state by joining with the other Turkish tatars.
Armenians never sided with Nazi's and all your claims are false! read history, it's all documented.
@Bellig if its documented why hav'nt you lot gone to a recogised court and had your day actually why haven't you lot gone to any court for that matter !!!considering youve persued every other avenue to get your alleged half truths excepted
as i said above Google away as theirs more than adequate information on what armenians did to the Jews for Nazi respect
@halil65 to be able to understand the situation, you need to know history+politics+economics. Obviously you don't know any of them!
The Armenian Genocide is a fact that has been proven time and again in international courts. Also there are historical archives in Washington DC, Turkey, France, Germany, UK and many more countries proving it.
As of today 21 countries and 43/50 US States have accepted the Genocide and in 3 countries denying the Armenian Genocide is a crime. Get it?
@Bellig you should take turkey to court why haven't you done so!!!the international court of human rights or for that matter any reputable court !!you lot have done none !!!
surly with every other avenue pursued you would !!yet you diaspora dont!!
why haven't you asked the nations that have excepted armen claims to except the illegal armenians residing within turkey the 100 thousand orso !!
and who and why should any trust pro armenians for opinions and which courts aremenian proves ur claims
@halil65 The Google sites are based on lies and false documentation. Show me any factual and reliable document that has been internationally accepted - there are none! But I can show you millions of documents that prove Turks aka Ottomans have committed a crime, what else is new?? Ask the Greeks, Assyrians, Kurds, they have all been victims as well. Shame on you! your grandfather should have thought twice before committing the crime. Now you have to pay and all Turks will !!
@halil65 To educate you a little more: Check the website and archives of The International Association of Genocide Scholars and you will see a reliable website with true archives and documents about the Armenian Genocide. Also the Jewish Scholar website where they accept the Armenian Genocide and condemn the Turks!
Educate yourself before replying with stupid arguments please!
@Bellig if you belive your tunnel thinking youd better ask your self you is there 100 thousand illegal armenians and more leaving in there droves together with there families and relations ,if we are that why are armens coming to turkey why don't they go elsewhere !!!
@DeKutnest The west divided the Arabs into Lebanon, Syria, Iraq???!! you must be joking or you must be a Turk, since you don't know history and/or you haven't lived in an Arab country, I live in Lebanon and am a proud Lebanese.
The Arabs were divided through history and each one is a completely different nation, they also hate each other. They are one of the oldest nations in the world and before the west and Turkey ever existed they were divided.
@DeKutnest FYI: I agree the Palestinian issue might be considered a Genocide, but not the Iraqi one. Please read the description of the term "Genocide". Any killing or war is not supposed to be termed as Genocide.
@DeKutnest nobody is talking against the other genocides. This was an interview just prior to the anniversary of the Armenian Genocide (for which the term Genocide was created by Raphael Lemkin) and that's why it is concentrated on that topic. In other interviews he might talk about other Genocides.
FYI: Armenians have always been very close to Palestinians and very supportive.
Robert Fisk, I see in the parallel you and my shit in the loe, You all make same noise. Idiots first you accept the genocite for Iraqies and Indians and then speak about other nations. Loosers
yeah yeah man you should be brave enough to accept genocite of iraqies first and then you should open your fucking mouth to talk about turks. Fuck you amina koydumun gavati
"Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
From the mouth of the madman himself...
MightyAlz 2 months ago
Armenian Genocide is a fact. It has been proven in court of laws, politicians and historians time and time again. There are millions of archives around the world, including the Washington DC archives.
Turkey's denial of their crime doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Also don't blame the Ottomans, the Young-Turks were the culprits who are in power until now.
90% of the Armenian lands have been occupied and 1.5Million systematically massacred. STOP THE DENIAL!! read about it instead.
90kapo 2 months ago
And the American genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan???
baywatchrules12 2 months ago
We must deny this "holocaust" since this simply incorrect. The first genocide of the 20th century was carried out by Germany in SW Africa in 1916. Armenians suffered a great cultural and humanitarian catastrophe. But this was not genocide. and contrary to what Fisk says there are no "documents". This so called Turkification process was different from the Bulgarisation of Bulgaria or the expulsion of Turks by Greeks or Muslims from Caucasus by Russia in what way? Was this genocide too?
outsidelight1 4 months ago
@outsidelight1 Note that the term Genocide was coined by the Jewish lawyer Rafael Lemkin "because of what happened to Armenians in 1915" as he put it in history and you can find his video declaration on YouTube.
The Armenian Genocide was actually started in 1800' under the Ottoman rule and they tried to finalize the extermination of a nation in 1915 and failed. All these are documented and proven to be a Genocide, so there's only one thing remaining-TURKEY TO ACCEPT IT'S GUILT!! as Germany did.
zoodhye 4 months ago
RECOGNISE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE
MrArmenian10 7 months ago
Fisk does not understand that germans admitted, but turks wont because they have not only killed armenians but also taken over their lands todays turkey,so they know that the time they addmit it they have to give back the armenian lands all the way to Greece. That`s the reason why! Every turk knows what happend their forfathers have told them that if they addmitt the truth they have to give back all armenian lands!
ainanor 8 months ago
@ArmenOfTheNorth your post reminds me of William Saroyan's remark about Armenians, both are sarcastic but have a lot of hidden true meaning:
"I should like to see any power of the world destroy this race.............go ahead, destroy Armenia. See if you can do it. Send them into the desert without bread or water. Burn their homes and churches. Then see if they will not laugh, sing and pray again. For when two of them meet anywhere in the world, see if they will not create a New Armenia."
zoodhye 11 months ago 2
zoodhye 1 year ago 9
@zoodhye TURKIYE REMEBER FRENCH, RUSSIAN, ARMENIAN, BRITISH, GREEK, AUSTRALIAN, JEWISH BARBARIANS!!!!
TODAY ARMENIAN PATRICK MESROB MUTAFYAN IS TURKISH CITIZEN AND ARMENIAN PATRICK LIVE IN ISTANBUL, BECAUSE HE IS FREE TURKISH CHRISTIAN!
LONG LIVE DEMOCRATIC TURKIYE!!!
SHAME ON BARBARIAN CHRISTIANS!
TURKIYE REMEBER ASALA, EOKA, ATAKA, TASHNAK PARTY, AND FACIST ARMENIA!
00thelastottoman00 8 months ago
Turkey invests millions every year for Genocide denial. They have a strong lobby in every country to stop them accepting the Genocide.
Turkish schools have brainwashed their students with fake history. What a shame!!! but fortunately some Turks are smart and are admitting their fault. Sooner or later all Turks have to be re-educated with the truth about their barbaric ancestry.
Bellig 1 year ago 5
@Bellig I was never Teached By Turks But stil The genocide Is the fault of the Falling Ottoman empire -.-
recepesek 2 months ago
armenian pestering is incessant look at the swedes they rejected it then the following year it gets excepted because you lot pester annoy and frustrate into submission
thats all it is and no one really cares about armenian or there claims
halil65 1 year ago
you should be a little more informed and read just google armenian nazi or nazi armenian collaboration to start6 with , and we'll look at the rest of your misinformed misguided thinking ,dont except what i say google away
and we'll see
halil65 1 year ago
and what did the armen ians do for the turks to want to kill them whee is the intent the turks wanted to do away with the armens if we wanted to turkify the armenians why were we tollerant and allowed them to practicwe there religions .
now tell me why did the armenians side with the nazi's and were anti jew ,they had radio weeekly broadcasts ,newspapers and flyers al anti jew
why did they befreind the jews only to toss them over to the nazi for transportation for processing at ausvitze
halil65 1 year ago
@halil65 Please read history and educate yourself outside of your censored Turkish schooling.
Armenians were never allowed to practice their language and pray! all the churches were destroyed and are still being destroyed until today!!
The main reason they killed Armenians, Greeks, Kurds and Assyrians is because they wanted to create a pan-turkic state by joining with the other Turkish tatars.
Armenians never sided with Nazi's and all your claims are false! read history, it's all documented.
Bellig 1 year ago
@Bellig if its documented why hav'nt you lot gone to a recogised court and had your day actually why haven't you lot gone to any court for that matter !!!considering youve persued every other avenue to get your alleged half truths excepted
as i said above Google away as theirs more than adequate information on what armenians did to the Jews for Nazi respect
halil65 1 year ago
@halil65 to be able to understand the situation, you need to know history+politics+economics. Obviously you don't know any of them!
The Armenian Genocide is a fact that has been proven time and again in international courts. Also there are historical archives in Washington DC, Turkey, France, Germany, UK and many more countries proving it.
As of today 21 countries and 43/50 US States have accepted the Genocide and in 3 countries denying the Armenian Genocide is a crime. Get it?
Bellig 1 year ago
@Bellig you should take turkey to court why haven't you done so!!!the international court of human rights or for that matter any reputable court !!you lot have done none !!!
surly with every other avenue pursued you would !!yet you diaspora dont!!
why haven't you asked the nations that have excepted armen claims to except the illegal armenians residing within turkey the 100 thousand orso !!
and who and why should any trust pro armenians for opinions and which courts aremenian proves ur claims
halil65 1 year ago
@Bellig
you should ask the 43 or whatever us states if they'd except all the illegals that are leaving armenia as well
huh
halil65 1 year ago
@halil65 The Google sites are based on lies and false documentation. Show me any factual and reliable document that has been internationally accepted - there are none! But I can show you millions of documents that prove Turks aka Ottomans have committed a crime, what else is new?? Ask the Greeks, Assyrians, Kurds, they have all been victims as well. Shame on you! your grandfather should have thought twice before committing the crime. Now you have to pay and all Turks will !!
Bellig 1 year ago
@halil65 To educate you a little more: Check the website and archives of The International Association of Genocide Scholars and you will see a reliable website with true archives and documents about the Armenian Genocide. Also the Jewish Scholar website where they accept the Armenian Genocide and condemn the Turks!
Educate yourself before replying with stupid arguments please!
Bellig 1 year ago 2
@Bellig who is going to except pro armen ian sites and archives
halil65 1 year ago
@Bellig if you belive your tunnel thinking youd better ask your self you is there 100 thousand illegal armenians and more leaving in there droves together with there families and relations ,if we are that why are armens coming to turkey why don't they go elsewhere !!!
halil65 1 year ago
i am a turk and i recognize it
necroxeon 1 year ago
@necroxeon i appreciate that :)
740ilPower 1 year ago
@DeKutnest The west divided the Arabs into Lebanon, Syria, Iraq???!! you must be joking or you must be a Turk, since you don't know history and/or you haven't lived in an Arab country, I live in Lebanon and am a proud Lebanese.
The Arabs were divided through history and each one is a completely different nation, they also hate each other. They are one of the oldest nations in the world and before the west and Turkey ever existed they were divided.
Please review 'real' history and then reply...
Bellig 1 year ago
@DeKutnest FYI: I agree the Palestinian issue might be considered a Genocide, but not the Iraqi one. Please read the description of the term "Genocide". Any killing or war is not supposed to be termed as Genocide.
Bellig 1 year ago
@DeKutnest nobody is talking against the other genocides. This was an interview just prior to the anniversary of the Armenian Genocide (for which the term Genocide was created by Raphael Lemkin) and that's why it is concentrated on that topic. In other interviews he might talk about other Genocides.
FYI: Armenians have always been very close to Palestinians and very supportive.
Bellig 1 year ago
Obama, recognise the Armenian genocide and save your soul!
Gregory10000000000 1 year ago
Robert Fisk, I see in the parallel you and my shit in the loe, You all make same noise. Idiots first you accept the genocite for Iraqies and Indians and then speak about other nations. Loosers
ccccamb 1 year ago
yeah yeah man you should be brave enough to accept genocite of iraqies first and then you should open your fucking mouth to talk about turks. Fuck you amina koydumun gavati
ccccamb 1 year ago
Worst Genocies in the world
Holocaust, Armenian, Pakistani genocide of Bangla Hindus, Ukranian, Rwandan
olebaj 1 year ago
For once this puppet of the islamic nations is speaking the truth.
olebaj 1 year ago
Five minutes isn't enough to cover the whole thing, but he did a good job at summing it up.
trollfinger 1 year ago 3
'What is Justice'?
'Justice is the law that distinguishes between Right and Wrong'
'What then is Justice, that we may do Justice?'
'The face of a killer is your face'(TURKEYS- AKA THE COWARDS)
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago