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  • this plane was designed to have superior performance to the f-16. also, in air superiority combat,i would take the f-35 over the su 37 any day. then i can see the bad guy and he can't see me.

  • 3 billion dollars for a plane that does not climb do not turn and an ak 47 can destoy whith a single magazine great for a close suport plane. yea great work killing the us air superiority i take a su 37 any time and dont forget any new generation sam will take it out of the sky

  • Dassault Rafale FTW ^^

  • Can't turn, can't climb, can't run.

  • @DarthFanta 9Gs, 50deg aoa, how can you say it can't turn?

    Plus 360 deg engagement capability with the DAS/helmet. Equally effective day and night.

    Moreover the F-135 has been tested at 20% more thrust than the specs. It is likely that in the near future the F-135 will have a wartime setting with 10% more thrust, giving the F-35A/C a decent supercruise speed.

  • @DarthFanta I know that is only part of the picture but to me i wouldn't have even bothered building this without vectored thrust and i'd prefer 2 engines. I think with vectored thrust they could have made the plane bigger for more range without giving up being nimble. Sad they couldn't do better than this its like they didn't really try.

  • @DarthFanta watch?v=OowCBVh8-_0 LOL you sure?! XD also the F-35 has better aerodynamic performance when fully load then either the F-16 or the F-18.

  • @DarthFanta dude im a civian pilot and even in my position as a civilian i can see this thing has huge potential

  • @pilotboy8532 Well, not according to the guy who designed the F-16. The guys were complaining about how the wings are too small etc, and that it would probably be a jack of all trades and master of none.

  • @DarthFanta And the man that designed the F-104 probably said the same thing about the F-16...

  • all u russia and china fanboys ur entitled to u opinion but i believe the f-35 and f-22 can more than handle themselves as the us predecessors have

  • What I really want to know is what the pilots flying the Russian fighters think of this plane. Pit the F-35s againts the Su-30s MiG29s in an actual dogfight, weapons hot.

  • Don´t buy the propaganda in this video..

  • The reason everyone hates the F-35 is because your military just gave your kids SHITPLANES that can´t do shit.

    The plane together with F22 Raptor are shit planes. In air to air combat this would get owned so hard.

    It can´t do anything good this plane.

  • @GeneralRushHour How is the F22 a shit plane?

  • @eyeAMtwinkEE It can be shot down very easily easily and with relatively small firepower.

  • @GeneralRushHour With what?

  • @eyeAMtwinkEE Rifles.

  • @GeneralRushHour That'd be a pretty rare scenario.

  • @eyeAMtwinkEE Ever wondered why they don´t run the F22´s and F35´s in Afghanistan?

    To easy to shoot down.

  • @GeneralRushHour They don't run the F22's because there's no demand for an air superiority role in Afghanistan, and the F35 is still undergoing testing and isn't deployed anywhere.

  • @eyeAMtwinkEE Not true, they run air support there aswell as in Libya,

    No F22´s and no Stealthbombers anymore. They are to fragile if they get shot at.

  • @GeneralRushHour The F35 is not deployed, so that can't be in use in Libya. There's no need for an air superiority fighter in the middle east right now. The F15 can take pretty much any threat they pose.

  • @eyeAMtwinkEE I KNOW.... But Europe has placed orders on alot of them and it´s a shit-plane that can´t do anything great just everything ok and borderline shit.

    F22´s is not used in Libya or Afghanistan due to the fragileness of it.

  • @GeneralRushHour It's not used because there is no worthy middle-easter adversary. Why use a $155 million F22 when a much cheaper alternative (F15,16,18) exists, and can beat anything Libya or Afghanistan have.

  • @GeneralRushHour no planes except for dedicated ground attack planes like the A-10 have any kid of ballistics protection, an F-22 or F-35 would fare just as well against small arms fire as an F-15 or F-16. also read my previous comment in regards to the F-35 being a "shit" plane...because it isnt by any stretch of the imagination.

  • @GeneralRushHour

    Europe has not placed any orders at all. Europe is still THINKING about the JSF. The thing is not even flying, all they have confirmed are a couple of test planes, nothing else. All we know so far is that the total number of possible planes keeps going down and the last idea was that 3 nations would order an X amount of planes and share them !!! This to be able to afford them due to the spiraling cost.

    In the end the thing will get axed, simply unaffordable.

  • I love it! Everybody keeps hating the F-35 because it's not an F-22. Even some professionals hate it too. That's cool. You will all be silenced when the F-35 goes to war and has massive success. People once complained about the F-16 because it wasn't an F-15 as well. Now no one compares the two planes and they are legends. I see this happening all over again with the F-22/F-35 combo. I see it as a good trend.

  • THE F-16 IS FOR FAR MORE MANEUVER AND HAVE MORE SPEED THAN

    THIS PIECE OF CRAP. THIS PLANE IS NO MATCH FOR THE MIGS AND

    SUKHOI PLANES.

  • I hate that plane. Just the way it looks; like some fat midget (no offense). That alone can tell you that it's full of turd.

  • Lol, nice advertisement.

  • I see the problems with the Raptor and the F35, but if they chose to produce

    YF-23 would it make a difference from the problem we have now?

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  • You ever actually going to get these past the test phase. FFS Lockheed Martin, get your shit in order. All the issues: Oxygen system, valve issues, hydraulics... you guys would of been fired after in the private sector. You are worthless company sucking up our tax payers money.

  • Great news for us and our allies and well we gon kill dem der bad guys!

  • Hope it does well for what it is intended for.

  • @TheProjektcc Thats the point. F-35 is more than likely going to be used as an A2G combat platform. How many of the countries that are our enemies have 5th Gen fighter capabilities? F-22 is more than likely going to still be used for A2A combat.

  • @watdaddy55 "countries that are our enemies" Which one exactly ?

  • Military program like the F35 project should be increased in funding. Go American Air Power!

  • In the best case you get what you ordered with 10 year delay and 3 times the cost. If you start redifining requirements, stretching financing, reduce numbers etc. you get unfunctional trainwrecks like the Eurofighter. With literally dozens of test aircraft and Uncle Sam paying the bills, the F-35 will finally do what it was supposed to do: precision airstrikes and returning home safely, while keeping lots of defence jobs in the US, and most of the allies dependant on the US.

  • Each pilot is a PAYED Lockheed EMPLOYEE

    BIASED!!!

    NO.....

    LOL

  • The F-35 is a product of future design requirements! You cant plan for todays needs but 20-30 years out. While the Eurofighter, Rafale, and MIG-35 have their place, they are hopelessly out of date compared to the F-35. The F-35 is not made for air superiority it's a bomb truck with a substantialy superior air-to-air capability over any and all 4th gen fighter platforms. Dont underestimate the F-35. When it's ready, it will be spectacular!...

  • The roll rate looks kinda sluggish, I don't think this plane is made to do some hardcore dogfighting. I hope I'm wrong but the eurofighters, griffen and the mig 35 could easily outperform the pricey F-35.

  • @Bomyster3000 It's pretty much a match to the F-16/F-18 in maneuverability according to a test pilot in a separate advertorial.

  • @Bomyster3000 The planes you mention are airshow planes. When it comes to real combat. They are inferior due to the sensors they have. The f35 will pick the time and the place of the fight and the enemy wont even know what hit them. The planes you mention can only do this kind of maneuvering with very little fuel and no weapons loaded. There is to much drag. The f35 has no drag penalty and can perform as pilots say it, as a clean F16 and F18.

  • this should be flagged as having a misleading title. there's no discussion in the video :P

  • sensors, sensors, sensors we get it! It has great sensors, all new planes have excellent sensors but can it maneuver?? That is something a fighter jet is supposed to be able to do.

    This thing may be in big trouble if it gets into combat with other fighter jets.

  • @TheProjektcc ay did you notica what planes it is replacing

  • @TheProjektcc this plane incorporates the best sensors on earth.there is no other plane out their(besides the F-22)that can engage the F-35before the F-35engages it(the EODAS system is BY FAR the best in the world),its not like in video games,missiles can pull up to35G turns(a human cant survive even 15Gs and planes only pull 10Gs),maneuverability WONT save you.i would much rather be in a stealthy plane with the best sensors,missiles and targeting computers,rather than a plane that can maneuver.

  • @hotpocketpoison

    You have no clue what you are talking about. Do yourself a favor do some real research on air combat and stop believing the press hype generated by lockheed that this planes technology is so good it won't need to manuever. That is a silly notion said by aircraft engineers for every plane they have released in the last 50 years. And time and time again they have been proven wrong in air to air combat. All planes no matter how stealthy should be able to manueiver.

  • @TheProjektcc just look up EODAS here on youtube.and what?do you think this plane just takes off and flies in a straight line?no.this plane can still maneuver,it may not be the most maneuverable plane but it can still maneuvers very well.(combine that with its advanced avionics and you have one of the most deadly aircraft in the world).and you seem to have over looked the fact that in modern air combat,countermeasures are more important than maneuverability,because missiles are more maneuverable

  • Even if the EODAS was run using a super nintendo, they would tell you it was the most deadly in the world. The mission and concept that led to the creation of this plane was for cheaper 5th generation ground attack plane designed to deal with late 90s ground threats. This plane is not an air superiority fighter nor was it originally designed to be. But because they project ran over the budget and behind schedule lockheed very dishonestly redignated it a multirole fighter. But this is not true.

  • @hotpocketpoison

    EODAS compared to OLS which uses large aperture catadioptric optics is like comparing a glasses with Hubble telescope.

    Sorry but F-35 has no chances in modern aircombat

    ausairpower. net/APA-NOTAM-05072010-1. html

  • @MarshallJukov what are you talking about? the EODAS system is the most advanced targeting systems ever put on an aircraft. and the F-35 wasnt designed for air combat, it is a stealth multirole fighter not air superiority fighter, there is a HUGE difference.

  • @hotpocketpoison

    EODAS isn`t "most advanced" - its just staring array of thermalsights optimised for air-to-ground role - nothing really special about it.

    F-35 isn`t stealth - aspecialy with external payload. And its miltirole capabilities are slightly inferior to that of F-16, at 10 times higher price. Face it - F-35 project is a total failure.

    ausairpower. net/APA-2009-01. html

  • @MarshallJukov dont you understand that most of the attributes that make the aircraft cost so much are classified? and not stealthy??? you must be joking. sure it isnt as stealthy as the F-22 but it still has an extremely low RCS. and just look up EODAS here on youtube, it is MUCH more than just an"array of thermal sights".

  • @hotpocketpoison

    Sure - and major of them is PROFIT which corporations make on it LOL))

    As for F-35 - take your time reading that site i gave you. F-35 is NOT VLO aircraft. Period.

    Other system including such as Sniper XR or OLS-K can do everything exactly the same way and even better due their optics. They just don`t have that amazingly looking 360 degree view - which is completely useless anyway - because effective human vision is just ~120 degrees.

  • @TheProjektcc All planes no matter how stealthy should be able to maneuver? Yeah. When your opponent is within visual range and there is a NEED for maneuverability. The dog fighting capabilities of this platform have not been fully exploited to this date due to the fact that it was designed to be stealthy and capable of engaging the enemy in indirect fashion. I work with the Lockheed/Rolls -Royce team.

  • @kevinramonejones7

    Well Lockheed must have assumed that there might be situations where f-35  will be in combat within visual range otherwise they would have not given it a gun. But in this age of highly agile fighters how can a plane that has maneuverability worse than a 60s era f-4 phantom going to get a guns kill on it's opponent?

    Especially when those opponents are likely to be higly agile russian and chinese figher jets? Everything can't be solved with BVR missiles if they start jamming

  • @TheProjektcc No, no, no, my friend. This thing will do just fine in combat. It can even fire a missile at a target behind it. It's amazing the amount of information that's available to the pilot through the multiple electro-optical sensors.

  • @TheProjektcc its supposed that it has similar maneuverability as a F/A-18.

  • @TheProjektcc dude please dont act like you know what your talking about please your a civilian

  • @TheProjektcc - It'll be fine. Doesn't have to be incredible, it's been well verified that ultimate maneuverability does not make a fighter platform. I'd bet it'll match the F-16, which is still a world standard for maneuverability.

  • @TheProjektcc If it gets into a dogfight it's dead but in over the line of sight combat it should be just as good as the f-15 or better.

  • @TheProjektcc look at the A-10 not very manuveable

  • @rolandtran10 the a-10 is very manuveable..is is also an attack jet and a close air support jet..the a-10 performs and very critical role that even our newest fifth gen. fight cannot perform. which is why the pentagon decided not to cancelled it. we will always need a jet that can fly slow spot and attack smaller targets like enemy troop, tank, etc. the a-10 is a bomb truck with a cannon on its nose.

  • @TheProjektcc im calling BULLSHIT on your quote!

  • i hope hellenic air force will get f35 for ''next generation plane program'' and not rafale or eurofighter(even though getting rafale in small numbers would u also good)well since the backbone of haf is f16 then its pure logic that haf will get f35 sooner or later

  • im blown away by this jet :O

    

  • vertical takeoff and landing is so cool

  • @nesportskid It doesn't take of vertically idiot... it's a STOVL platform and it can only land vertically if it has 20% fuel and no major weapons.

  • what a fail plane

  • @tf2cheats You mean the plane is a failure douche bag.

  • could use HD

  • F-35 is a better aircraft.....4.5 generation can't match this awesome fighter..

  • Next on CNN,US are preparing for a new war, which country will fall on the roulette, you will know when they recive the new F-35 !

  • Cool aircraft. Imagine how good it will be when they can make a helmet that doesn't make you puke.

  • cool

  • I just can't get over that trash can lid STOVL air intake! So funny. One of the best jets in the world though.

  • simulator of choice is grand theft auto san andreas. it also does combat scenarios

  • @mrchristian87 To bad it is problably the least realistic game.....ever.

  • such an amazing aircraft!

  • nice,

  • nice to see some video's about the f-35!

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