and yea i can care less for the molested little boys, there capitalist parents love MJ and the good he has done them with the court ordered checks and publicity
Michael Jackson was an Epic artist, and he will go down in the history books not as a pedophile, but as the grand overlord of pop that he was, his death walks hand in hand with the fall of pop; rise of the modern BS Retards Applying Poetry we call 'music'
How is it... that whenever someone is declared guilty by the criminal justice system. No one doubts that they got the decision right. But, whenever the criminal justice system, declares someone innocent, everyone is sure that they must have made a mistake. People just like to see other people have to go to jail. OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson, both, have the world thoroughly convinced that they are guilty of murder and child molestation respectively, yet the system says they are not...
What sad fucking losers. They live their sad lives on the net using non intelligent fucking statements on the KING who will be loved and remembered forever. Reality check internet losers: NO ONE WILL GIVE A FUCK WHEN YOU DIE.
BILLIONS of people love Michael. R.I.P sweet angel xoxox
I'm sure you will all be able to sleep better tonight with your little two bits posted on youtube for no one to give a shit about but I think not very many of you get the point of the question.
Michel jackson wrote few of his own songs, his Moonwalk was being performed by dance artists as early as 1955 ( and NO-ONE can dance as well as Fred Astaire)and all of his iconic videos were artistically directed by other people, and his albums rely heavily on the production genius of Quincy Jones. Jackson was just smart that he surrounded himself to create his image for him. So with all this aditional info taken into account, I would save the Kids.
Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
sexual abuse tents to be a desiase that keeps on giving. A young boy abused in his childhool, might become the abuse himself in the future. It is a fact! So what jackson done to 12 boys will keep spreading.....
No amount of music and good feelings can account for that.....
Now that's a stupid question. Very, frikkin, stupid. And it is disgusting this is even up for debate. Save the kids of course, say anything else and you're a stupid bastard.
I enjoy Michael Jackson's music, it's awesome, he was super gifted, he achieved unparalleled success. Music and amazing talents is not something we are lacking, it happens all the time and we could have lived without him, Justin Timberlake might now have an act though. My vote goes to the kiddos. I don't think he's guilty though, I'm not certain but I'm not totally bought in. So I love him and I'm grateful.
Famous or not, had he (as if he didn't), Michael Jackson should have been under the full extent of the law. It is called the rule of law, no one can supercede it.
An interesting question actually. Needs of the many vs. needs of the few, but this may be the first time its been applied to a pop star, that I know of. Can't really say its a fair question though, since we're dealing with the hypothetical amount of joy he's brought, against a very real damage to kids. So bye bye, MJ. Since in reality, nothing was proven, the question becomes more valid. Oh and I'll have to remember that joke of yours. Hilarious, but awful...
No MJ. I'm sure there are tons of equally talented artists who, through dumb bad luck, never got a break, and would never molest a child. (I'm not claiming MJ did, BTW.)
So, child-molesting MJ or non-child-molesting MJ equivalent? That's a no-brainer.
Still, I don't get people who can't conceive of MJ being both a molester and a brilliant artist. If you think those two can't combine in one person, you have a pretty simplistic view of human beings.
shitty fucking youtube. gave a great reply. mini essay, you have all been robbed of it.
opinion: divorce art from artists. judge it on its own merits and them on there's. If GWB or Saddam Hussain (hmmm duet?) made an awesome pop song we should buy it and dance to it and ignore who sand it. Return to modernism dudes!
Its actually quite a good question. Cuts to the heart of the matter. I would say the work stands on it's own without the artist coming into it. The post-modernist movement has ruined this rather old fashioned opinion of mine. It matters now who cuts a shark in half or walks backwards because we brand things with the artist name, it has assumed value, however I propose that we move back to a modernist position where true value is recognised without reference to it's creator, where if GWB
I don't understand the culture of idolization and exploitation surrounding Michael Jackson -- or any other "celebrity" for that matter.
He was a great artist and musician who led a somewhat tragic life. But society, the media, and especially his fans, turned his life into a spectacle he couldn't escape from.
also... fuck those kids, all their parents got paid for their time, and they should have known from the song I wanna be starting something, that "if you can't feed your baby then don't have a baby... you'll be always trying to stop that boy from crying, hustling, cheating, lying, now baby is slowly dying...." harsh truth from a song that makes me wanna dance.
I see your getting a bit of flack for this hypothetical Davis, and I'll ironically add this "damn you and your magic hypothetical wand, making us weigh the cost of something against something else, knowing full well that our opinions change nothing!"
If it weren't them, then somebody else would have filled their spots with memorable and significant pieces of art. I would not sacrifice even 1 child's innocence for the sake of art. If we start making those types of moral judgement calls, then what's the point of having the art? Art should not come before the moral consciousness of humanity.
It's the same situation with Roman Polanski. If there is definitive evidence that these people molested, raped or otherwise took advantage of little children for their own gain, then they should be put in jail, regardless of who they are or what they could do with their popularity and 'art'.
Art is an interested thing in that sense. There are always remarkeable artists in any generation, and it's just dumb luck that any one of them becomes as popular as these people.
Save the kids. Have you no idea what kind of damage, 12 sexually molested boys will cause in their life time. If they don't kill themselves first that is. MJ sexually molesting 12 boys OK because he brought "music and smiles". Did I hear right? You sound like those right wing conservative catholics, justifying murder and rape, for the greater good.
dont even have to think about that one bucko of course i would save the little boys to hell with the music you didnt give me a hypothitical about iraq in fact i usually like your stuff but i find this video repugnant
There were so many things I took exception to here that I can't even start to comment on.
I'm going to ignore all the other parts which annoy me the most and instead comment on the part that is easiest to see that you were wrong in your primary assumptions about this guy...
So I say clearly:
MICHAEL JACKSON DIDN'T INVENT THE MOONWALK!
He only POPULARIZED it.
And by the way....I spare the young boys. There would have been some other pop doofus to record those songs.
@gitterfritter really???? how many smiles do you toss away? think about the butterfly effect. what happens if all of those smiles never happen???? we are talking millions upon millions of smiles....
What kind of sick twisted logic is that? How about we say, "Think of all the people that were kept warm throughout the harsh winters by the cotton that the slaves picked? Isn't it good that slavery took place so that people were kept warm?" That has to be the dumbest, most cowardly and perverted way to think. Let kids get raped so that millions can smile? I swear, sometimes I can't believe I exist amongst people that fucken think this way.
The good always wins. At least, that's what we're told. Let me just say this. Every celebrity has his/her ups and downs. Jfk with Marylin monroe and the Bay of Pigs. OJ Simpson with his great hall of fame football career and the death of his loved ones. Benjamin franklin and all of his glory along with his womanizing days. What this teaches us, is to choose what we want to believe. Do we want to see benjamin franklin as a great mind, or as a womanizer? That's what we must do, for Michael Jackson
Even better question, how many child molestations is Thriller alone worth? I'm kidding of course, I bet the parents of the children who may have(never proven) been molested don't think Smooth Criminal was worth it, well maybe.
Because more stars mourned his death than those who died in the hurricane? In all seriousness, probably due to the fact it was simply a bigger shock to people.
Jackson's talent is undeniable. Nobody can deny that to the man who wrote Thriller. But I wouldn't sacrifice any child for music. Even if it would hypothetically mean losing all knowledge of MJ.
I MIGHT be inclined to think otherwise about sacrificing 12 kids (your random number) to being molested by a scientist if said scientist cured every disease known to man.
How could that NOt be in the stories of the decade. In fact MJ in the entire Decade deserves to be mentioned. Or maybe just the news and their obsession this finding rubbish to write about our "stars"
lmaol @ the MJ joke
and yea i can care less for the molested little boys, there capitalist parents love MJ and the good he has done them with the court ordered checks and publicity
Michael Jackson was an Epic artist, and he will go down in the history books not as a pedophile, but as the grand overlord of pop that he was, his death walks hand in hand with the fall of pop; rise of the modern BS Retards Applying Poetry we call 'music'
R.I.P - MJ
SoldierCyfix 1 year ago
How is it... that whenever someone is declared guilty by the criminal justice system. No one doubts that they got the decision right. But, whenever the criminal justice system, declares someone innocent, everyone is sure that they must have made a mistake. People just like to see other people have to go to jail. OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson, both, have the world thoroughly convinced that they are guilty of murder and child molestation respectively, yet the system says they are not...
Jarut195 1 year ago
What sad fucking losers. They live their sad lives on the net using non intelligent fucking statements on the KING who will be loved and remembered forever. Reality check internet losers: NO ONE WILL GIVE A FUCK WHEN YOU DIE.
BILLIONS of people love Michael. R.I.P sweet angel xoxox
MissGeorgous 1 year ago
I'm sure you will all be able to sleep better tonight with your little two bits posted on youtube for no one to give a shit about but I think not very many of you get the point of the question.
frymastermeat 2 years ago
MJ was a pedo, and when he died. That's good for the kids. At least they're safe now. lol
KingUser2008 2 years ago
i rated 1 star
and if i could i gave you 0
tjorvencra 2 years ago
michel jackson is the same as an xbox the are both made of plastic and turned on by little boys
hahahaha
ka8555 2 years ago
JOKE:
Q: How does MJ like his coffee?
A: It doesn't matter if its black or white.
*cue canned laughter.
lxvlx 2 years ago
Michel jackson wrote few of his own songs, his Moonwalk was being performed by dance artists as early as 1955 ( and NO-ONE can dance as well as Fred Astaire)and all of his iconic videos were artistically directed by other people, and his albums rely heavily on the production genius of Quincy Jones. Jackson was just smart that he surrounded himself to create his image for him. So with all this aditional info taken into account, I would save the Kids.
aafxa2 2 years ago
This an absurd question. Would someone be willing to say yes if it was one of their sons? I would save the boys.
Blueaveo3568 2 years ago
Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
joebubbit 2 years ago
A world without Michael Jackson? Somehow I think I could live with that.
mjr256 2 years ago
i couldn't make that decision
curiositygun93 2 years ago
sexual abuse tents to be a desiase that keeps on giving. A young boy abused in his childhool, might become the abuse himself in the future. It is a fact! So what jackson done to 12 boys will keep spreading.....
No amount of music and good feelings can account for that.....
TheSingaling 2 years ago 2
Now that's a stupid question. Very, frikkin, stupid. And it is disgusting this is even up for debate. Save the kids of course, say anything else and you're a stupid bastard.
seraph101 2 years ago 2
To Paraphrase:
"Never conflate the artist with an artists work"
or
"Never trust the artist, trust the art."
I think D.H. Lawrence originally said some words to that effect. Maybe when speaking of Gustav Mahler or Richard Wagner.
walkingmap 2 years ago
save the boys.
Not Mather how good his work is or how much joy it brings to others.
The ruining of some one life is not justified bye the indulging of the need people have for entertainment, not mater how much they enjoy it.
liesandtricks 2 years ago
I enjoy Michael Jackson's music, it's awesome, he was super gifted, he achieved unparalleled success. Music and amazing talents is not something we are lacking, it happens all the time and we could have lived without him, Justin Timberlake might now have an act though. My vote goes to the kiddos. I don't think he's guilty though, I'm not certain but I'm not totally bought in. So I love him and I'm grateful.
marieowitzski 2 years ago
@davisfleetwood There is the Question. I reely don't know what I would do, I mean MJ did bring some damn fine music, but what about the kids? HMMM?
darkwarrior1383 2 years ago
no question, save the little boys
you shouldnt be above the law because you are talented, i feel the same way about Roman Polanski
but i also think you can like the art and not like the man, or the actions of the man, its not black and white (pun intended)
queenboxi 2 years ago
save the little boys!
HpnTYzD 2 years ago
Famous or not, had he (as if he didn't), Michael Jackson should have been under the full extent of the law. It is called the rule of law, no one can supercede it.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
i would have saved the 12 boys and the world from Jackson's crappy music...
blatant2subtlety 2 years ago
Michael Jackson is the king of pop, Elvis Presley is the king of rock, Elton John is the king of cock.
Dwicker64 2 years ago
@lordwindowlicker
GEE I really hope so. GEEEEEEEEEEEE
eris1aughs 2 years ago
An interesting question actually. Needs of the many vs. needs of the few, but this may be the first time its been applied to a pop star, that I know of. Can't really say its a fair question though, since we're dealing with the hypothetical amount of joy he's brought, against a very real damage to kids. So bye bye, MJ. Since in reality, nothing was proven, the question becomes more valid. Oh and I'll have to remember that joke of yours. Hilarious, but awful...
albanaeon 2 years ago
Save the kids!
1DRock37167 2 years ago
MJ did great things for millions of poor around the world
wickedlick 2 years ago
I think a childs innocents in of more value than Micheal Jacksons music career
aa6757 2 years ago
No MJ. I'm sure there are tons of equally talented artists who, through dumb bad luck, never got a break, and would never molest a child. (I'm not claiming MJ did, BTW.)
So, child-molesting MJ or non-child-molesting MJ equivalent? That's a no-brainer.
Still, I don't get people who can't conceive of MJ being both a molester and a brilliant artist. If you think those two can't combine in one person, you have a pretty simplistic view of human beings.
JustAMinuteOYourTime 2 years ago
This was awful. Human sacrifice? Are you fucking kidding me? Of course I would save the lives of 12 young boys. SMILES? Do you have a brain injury?!
eris1aughs 2 years ago
@eris1aughs
GEE! It is almost like that is why he was asking the question, and THAT was the point that he was trying to make.
lordwindowlicker 2 years ago
His music was great but he also had many charitable efforts that did good too.
NubianTribesman 2 years ago
Hypo theticals are always Contra Verse ial
Thats like saying
"Would you Eliminate the child Adolf Hitler if you found out he wrote "Silent Night Holy Night "?'
Thats an extreme example
A real one is the song "Green Sleeves"
that has brought many smiles to so many over the centuries
would you eliminate its author King Henry the eighth to save the lives of some of his wives ?
Choowbz 2 years ago
i would deny the world micheal jackson of course, cos regardless of him being alive or not, someone somewhere would have made me smile anyway
binkiie4dictator 2 years ago
86 Jacko and save the boys ,no question.
evilxxxintentions 2 years ago
Janet is michael and Michael is janet... I'm so confused now
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
shitty fucking youtube. gave a great reply. mini essay, you have all been robbed of it.
opinion: divorce art from artists. judge it on its own merits and them on there's. If GWB or Saddam Hussain (hmmm duet?) made an awesome pop song we should buy it and dance to it and ignore who sand it. Return to modernism dudes!
apollyon1 2 years ago
Its actually quite a good question. Cuts to the heart of the matter. I would say the work stands on it's own without the artist coming into it. The post-modernist movement has ruined this rather old fashioned opinion of mine. It matters now who cuts a shark in half or walks backwards because we brand things with the artist name, it has assumed value, however I propose that we move back to a modernist position where true value is recognised without reference to it's creator, where if GWB
apollyon1 2 years ago
don't react............think.
Epic.
waynedewho 2 years ago
I don't understand the culture of idolization and exploitation surrounding Michael Jackson -- or any other "celebrity" for that matter.
He was a great artist and musician who led a somewhat tragic life. But society, the media, and especially his fans, turned his life into a spectacle he couldn't escape from.
wnnw98 2 years ago
also... fuck those kids, all their parents got paid for their time, and they should have known from the song I wanna be starting something, that "if you can't feed your baby then don't have a baby... you'll be always trying to stop that boy from crying, hustling, cheating, lying, now baby is slowly dying...." harsh truth from a song that makes me wanna dance.
morganseathomson 2 years ago
I see your getting a bit of flack for this hypothetical Davis, and I'll ironically add this "damn you and your magic hypothetical wand, making us weigh the cost of something against something else, knowing full well that our opinions change nothing!"
morganseathomson 2 years ago
Uhhhh.... all of that good wasn't worth ruining the lives of so many children. He never deserved to live.
DemonmachinE 2 years ago
If it weren't them, then somebody else would have filled their spots with memorable and significant pieces of art. I would not sacrifice even 1 child's innocence for the sake of art. If we start making those types of moral judgement calls, then what's the point of having the art? Art should not come before the moral consciousness of humanity.
ThroneofEden 2 years ago 2
It's the same situation with Roman Polanski. If there is definitive evidence that these people molested, raped or otherwise took advantage of little children for their own gain, then they should be put in jail, regardless of who they are or what they could do with their popularity and 'art'.
Art is an interested thing in that sense. There are always remarkeable artists in any generation, and it's just dumb luck that any one of them becomes as popular as these people.
ThroneofEden 2 years ago
this vid is all bull shit!!
RIP MR MICHAEL JACKSON!!!
FROM THE EAST SIDE OF CRAZY LONG BEACH!
longbeachlt 2 years ago
come on, everyone know he was framed
shijielau 2 years ago
How many raped children is Thriller worth to you?
bleunt 2 years ago
not smart.
inconsequential would be an understatement. cannot have magic wand, cannot answer stupid hyPATHETICAL questions
nestorrfortuna 2 years ago
Save the kids. Have you no idea what kind of damage, 12 sexually molested boys will cause in their life time. If they don't kill themselves first that is. MJ sexually molesting 12 boys OK because he brought "music and smiles". Did I hear right? You sound like those right wing conservative catholics, justifying murder and rape, for the greater good.
Hypothetically speaking that is.
komododr 2 years ago
Aw, come on! He made Thriller! Thriller! That must be worth at least 4 raped children.
This must be the dumbest thing (maybe the only dumb thing) I've heard Davis say. -_-
bleunt 2 years ago
Very difficult question, for all we know, without MJ, the world would be very different. Butterflies and Hurricanes.
cbankord 2 years ago
watch?v=W9Lqm4Jq0e0
MJ was killed by his creators
whether it be universal studios
HoughMorris 2 years ago
Joke: The week following MJ's death, Wal-mart had a sale to honor him. All young men's pants were half off.
Joke: After the autopsy report it was confirmed the MJ died from eating nine year old nuts.
Sweepingreaper4 2 years ago
haha pretty good ones
D119heavy 2 years ago
that was awkward. i hope someone else wrote everything you just said.
godrodemyscooter 2 years ago
If I could turn back tme, Jackson would be hanged by the nearest yard arm.
TheDemonPazuzu 2 years ago
wow. people really get pissed off at a hypothetical QUESTION? how dare you try to make them think Davis. lol. fuck the kids. slap
Slapnuts6931 2 years ago
@Slapnuts6931 I KNOW, right????? People discount all of the good that art can do....
and nobody seems pissed at the 1 million Iraqi dead. THAT is collatoral damage- and like davis said, what good has come from that?
i don't say this lighty, or without having though this through, but i say we sacrifice the 12 disciples (ermmm, boyz) of MJ to keep MJ!!!!
sunflower1997 2 years ago
dont even have to think about that one bucko of course i would save the little boys to hell with the music you didnt give me a hypothitical about iraq in fact i usually like your stuff but i find this video repugnant
dragonflychainsaw 2 years ago
OUCH!!! Making me question my morals like a Thomas Pynchon novel.
Honestly, I'll take the King of Pop over the 12 boys. Hell, I was molested, and I survived - better than most middle-aged Iraqi women anyway.
Besides, anyone who allowed their sons to spend the night with little Mike needed to have their heads examined anyway.
All reality aside, he was an AMAZING dancer.
anastasia81472 2 years ago
FACEPALM! Come on man!
There were so many things I took exception to here that I can't even start to comment on.
I'm going to ignore all the other parts which annoy me the most and instead comment on the part that is easiest to see that you were wrong in your primary assumptions about this guy...
So I say clearly:
MICHAEL JACKSON DIDN'T INVENT THE MOONWALK!
He only POPULARIZED it.
And by the way....I spare the young boys. There would have been some other pop doofus to record those songs.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
i heard he died of food poisoning... too many ten year old wieners.
ddamico3 2 years ago
Wow ... I can't believe that question was serious. Fuck the smiles ... save the boys anuses and mental health.
gitterfritter 2 years ago
@gitterfritter really???? how many smiles do you toss away? think about the butterfly effect. what happens if all of those smiles never happen???? we are talking millions upon millions of smiles....
sunflower1997 2 years ago
What kind of sick twisted logic is that? How about we say, "Think of all the people that were kept warm throughout the harsh winters by the cotton that the slaves picked? Isn't it good that slavery took place so that people were kept warm?" That has to be the dumbest, most cowardly and perverted way to think. Let kids get raped so that millions can smile? I swear, sometimes I can't believe I exist amongst people that fucken think this way.
gitterfritter 2 years ago
jackson was killed by illuminati
his trial was a joke
"will me thrill me u can nerver kill me " hiding from all seeing eye
in his clip watch?v=W9Lqm4Jq0e0
HoughMorris 2 years ago
@HoughMorris ILLUMINATI bullshit shut thrF*&*KK up you WACKO!!!
sunflower1997 2 years ago
kisses to you i send sweet kiss to you
HoughMorris 2 years ago
dude really? youre at the bottom of the conspiracy shit chain
godrodemyscooter 2 years ago
The good always wins. At least, that's what we're told. Let me just say this. Every celebrity has his/her ups and downs. Jfk with Marylin monroe and the Bay of Pigs. OJ Simpson with his great hall of fame football career and the death of his loved ones. Benjamin franklin and all of his glory along with his womanizing days. What this teaches us, is to choose what we want to believe. Do we want to see benjamin franklin as a great mind, or as a womanizer? That's what we must do, for Michael Jackson
skeeterbeanz09 2 years ago
He was never proven guity
xPoptartz 2 years ago
Nice! I liked this one. Great post :o)
imjustagirl776 2 years ago
Even better question, how many child molestations is Thriller alone worth? I'm kidding of course, I bet the parents of the children who may have(never proven) been molested don't think Smooth Criminal was worth it, well maybe.
KidOmniMan 2 years ago
how is this ahead of the hurricane?
rgart7575 2 years ago
@rgart7575
Because more stars mourned his death than those who died in the hurricane? In all seriousness, probably due to the fact it was simply a bigger shock to people.
DemonKingAtticus 2 years ago
Jackson's talent is undeniable. Nobody can deny that to the man who wrote Thriller. But I wouldn't sacrifice any child for music. Even if it would hypothetically mean losing all knowledge of MJ.
I MIGHT be inclined to think otherwise about sacrificing 12 kids (your random number) to being molested by a scientist if said scientist cured every disease known to man.
hardleecure 2 years ago 2
How could that NOt be in the stories of the decade. In fact MJ in the entire Decade deserves to be mentioned. Or maybe just the news and their obsession this finding rubbish to write about our "stars"
TravMcTavish 2 years ago
What would Michael say about this?
See my comments section and connect the CAIR dots.
JPK7777777 2 years ago