Whether this is totally true or not, California is the most f**ked up state in the USA. Good weather? Yes. But California is fiscally in the dumper. Keep blowing big money and keep taking care of all of your ILLEGAL aliens and you will keep falling further into financial trouble.
You idiots elected these people into office and all these years conservatives were telling you what would happen.where do you people think this money comes from? TAXPAYERS! the ones who work! But will quit their jobs when they realize all their wages are going to government employees! You deserve what you get California. And quit moving here to Texas! We don't want socialism here!
@Ricovali You have tyranny in Texas. Texans wanted to end TSA groping but the federal government threatened to stop all flights in and out of Texas and the Texans caved in. I guess the old saying "don't mess with Texas" doesn't apply anymore.
I'm just going to point this out... I'd be interested to know the response if you asked any of the relatives of the hundreds of people these guys have pulled out of the drink every year whether they think these guys are overpaid. And 'essential services will have to be cut'? What could be more essential?
@Hexpane Like wow man. California won't be feeding very many, due to lack of water because of a two inch minnow, like you know? I never said anything about the farms there anyway. What I'm saying is that if you guys keep spending and taxing, all you'll have left is tourism and farms. I wouldn't open a business there, when there are other states that don't punish successful business. Enjoy your "People's Republik, just don't ask for a bailout, when lifeguards are paid more than most engineers.
Republicans: Er, Forget about the bailout, the financial crisis and the massive unemployment caused by deregulation! These lifeguards get paid TOO MUCH MONEY ARAGHRGAHRGAHGRHAGHRGAGRHAGHR
Don't go in the water except for the first one foot!!! There needs to be negotiation between the people of CA and the govt civil servants. I'm sure we could find lifeguards who would work for less!!! I know about 100 good swimmers who are looking for 15 an hour!
I think Tony Artale might be correct. I often wonder is these stories by AFP are grossly exaggerated. I think the people at AFP are just jealous of people who have a decent benefits package. I say the people at AFP are jealous and bitter people who don't want to see hard working people make a fair wage and a decent pension. Newport Beach is one of the most expensive places to live, so of course their lifeguards must be paid well. Case Closed !
Reading some of the comments; it's easy to see how the unions and politicians don't have a tough job in fooling most of the voters. Most voters are uninformed or can't read and understand a budget (thanks to the Calif school system). They don't know that unfunded pensions and other benefits are hidden from them. They fail to "look behind the curtain" and live in the land of Oz. If you blindly vote "union" or "party line", you're one of the munchkins!
It doesn't matter what these lifeguards are getting paid hourly or salary. The only thing that should matter are the pensions handed out to every Government and State worker. I live in Illinois and even the people collecting change in the Tollways are getting pensions when they retire. You can retire after 20 years with 80% of your ending salary in pension and free health care for the rest of your life for driving a city bus. This Country cannot sustain this type of debt. Stop the Pensions!
Lifeguards in Newport Beach make over 2K saves a year. They have a high stress job that is being used as a political football by the likes of this moron. This isn't the kid at the pool. This is young men and women putting their life on the line to save people caught in riptides, and swells. If anyone deserves that kind of money, it's the lifeguards. Newport's beach brings in a lot of revenue to the city. They have some of the best trained guards with lots of experience. Pick on someone else!
@AV5Z4 Even the City Manager himself admits that most of the "saved lives" are done by the part-time lifeguards that get $16-$22 an hour with no bennies. Some MD's don't even make that much. I think it's a disgusting waste and it may well be being used as a "political football". Doesn't matter where you dig these days you will always find someone's pockets being unfairly filled.
1. can u actually swim cuz u look awfully outta shape and i doubt the jobs these guys do.
2. that video at the end wasnt newport! thats false advertising that was zuma beach and you make newport look dumb by showing it in fact half of those places were not newport.
3. Maybe u should go after city manager kiff who makes 600,000 dollars a year by doing what? cutting the lifeguards
@wpsurfcity7 I was unable to find out how much David Kiff makes a year. Is it $600,000 and where did you get that info? It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find it true, I just like to make sure of facts before I open my sometimes too big mouth! Most people these days ignore facts.
The report comes from the Orange County (CA) Register. In the report the Lifeguard Management Assc (re: Union), attempts to justify the "fair and reasonable" compensation package he has negotiated for his members. Residents of Orange County and Newport Beach: what input have you in these "negotiations?"
Rik...as a former firefighter, I too am certified an EMT, HazMAT, high-angle rescue, vehicle extrication, and river rescue. I made $10.00/hr per call-out and no retirement benefits. Get over yourself. If you are in the position for a lucrative payoff, I want you no where near my incident.
i live in orange county, ca. this is fucking pissed me off. i want those people to go to jail. fuck newport beach. i don't go to that stinky beach. #LOL
I'm from Long Beach. That is where the Cambodian community resides, hence my username. Santa Ana is where the Mexican gangsters live. Santa Ana near Anaheim Hill is way better.
Underpaid lifeguards? Are u freaking kidding me. They make over 50 thousands a year. That is high salary. They beat out flipping burger wage.
Holy Jebus! It was not that long ago that California was trying to decrease nurses pay a few years ago--and nurses are more highly educated life savers compared to someone with barely any training who tans all day.
@Rikotistic you should try passing the lifeguard swimming test and academy before making a remark like this. How can you compare Nurse education to Lifeguards training and certification? (Many lifeguards are EMT's and Paramedics)
i am a lifeguard currently in california and we have to be certified as an EMT and or paramedic, as well as many rigorous swimming and psychical tests that are timed. Can nurses swim out into the ocean with a current and pull a person out onto shore under a specific time limit as well as administering proper medical care? i think no. we don't just tan all day.
Dude? stick to hair club and forget sensationalizm from someone elses thing. life guards of this magnitude are the best in the nation. they will have to deal with cancer ect from over exposure ect..every job has its perks and hazards pulling idots like you out of the water should be compinsated as due. How much does hais club pay you to do idiomercials?
Dude? stick to hair club and forget sensationalizm from someone else. life guards of this magnitude are the best in the nation. they will have to deal with cancer ect from over exposure ect..every job has its perks and hazards pulling idots like you out of the water should be compinsated as due. How much does hais club pay you to do idiomercials?
@hitlersuckz you know what I am a lifeguard and I am damn proud of it. I trained my ass off to get where I am I can swim a mile in 15 mins save 5 people with one buoy get pounded by waves get back on my tower and do it all over again. You know why I can do this because the FULL TIME lifeguards who work at the beach trained me well. Full time lifeguards deserve every penny of what they make and some guy sitting on the internet calling me a pussy aint going to change anything.
Really? I know you work harder than people making the same amount of money sitting at a desk. Most people are lazy and I agree. However, I am currently going through twelve years of school to get two hours of sleep a night, if that, being on call as a doctor. You can not even remotely compare to the hell I go through. Full time lifeguards should make a lot, but not 100,000 a year. Sorry.
@90poloboy No it wont change anything, but DAMN, teachers save more kids and deserve more than you guys!! Pay teachers more, lower your friggin wages!!! unfriggin believable that you guys get so much money!!
I was wondering where your numbers came from? I checked the Newport Beach city proposed budget for 2011-2012 and the amount paid to the lifeguards are far less than your numbers.
@tonyartale The Orange County Register, a local respected newspaper, reported those numbers from the 2010-2011 Budget Document. Newport Beach City Manager David Kiff confirmed those numbers. The "salaries" look lower on the 2011-2012 Budget Document because it is JUST salaries that are reported in that column. You have to add in overtime compensation, benefits for full-timers, and PENSIONS. Please don't comment on a document that you don't know how to interpret.
Everything is a scam. When you get to these jobs everything is "relative" that is, everybody hires their releatives and the gravy train just a keeps on movin'
This is what many people in California worship, fun in the sun, so why shouldn't their "high priests" of recreation receive their stipend? On the other hand, what is a life worth? I bet those who have had a competent skilled lifeguard intervene to save their son's or daughter's life would think it is well worth the money to protect others from precarious predicaments.
its the unions that take advantage of all this ,its crazy I have been a electrician all my working life ( I love the trade ) so i Know about the union side of things( i have not been a member for many years) if people tell you its not a good old boy system ,they are either running with the pack or brainwashed.
Fuck the American government. I'm saying it. Come get me if you want you fucking suits. I was a soldier in Iraq, and I regret every minute of it. I hate this fucking country. Greedy, irresponsible dumbshits are all that run the US. People are starving, and the fucking retired lifeguard makes ove 3,000,000 in retirement? Fuck america. I'm ashamed to be associated with this country, and whoever hates me BECAUSE I am American, I agree with. The moment someone asks "revolution?" = I'm there.
@GangsterGumbo hey bud, when you say "fuck the American government" you typically mean the federal government. I'm sure there are many instances when this applies, but this article is specifically discussing California (state and/or local government).
However it probably isn't a far reach to guess that California is going to go bankrupt and expects a bailout by our federal government and they'll probably be all too willing to do it.
@williejenkins666 If it's in America, it's American.Yeah, it's a state government, or maybe even a local level budget, but it resides here,in this country.When you're paying someone to take care of you, and they do not abide, you get angry.They stole that shit from you, and spent it somewhere so ridiculously ascew from what you want (over $1,000,000,000,000.00 on a war anyone? A trillion! We could build a fucking city on the MOON for a trillion dollars).Maybe not exact, but you get the point.
@GangsterGumbo Yeah, that kind of thinking is prevalent across the entire country. The worst part is you can get a politician like Scott Walker who runs on the campaign that he will "cut spending" and then when he cuts spending a bunch of fucktards go wild like idiots...even people who supported him! Fucking morons.
Everyone likes cuts until it seems to affect what they scam out of their fellow taxpayers.
The government sucks on all levels. We're pretty much screwed.
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It's obvious these lifeguards are overpaid, BUT the cost of living is HIGHER in California with TV/Movie Industry out there so I do expect them to make a little more than a lifeguard somewhere else, right?
Everything has to be put in the proper context. But, yes, the pensions are ridiculous. Always, FOLLOW THE MONEY in any organization including charities! TRANSPARENCY TRANSPARENCY TRANSPARENCY
Outrageous! People were wondering why taxes are so high, yet officials complain there isn't enough money. Well, there isn't enough money for such government waste. Common sense NOW! Stop the ridiculous salaries! And you can thank the democrats for this stupidity. The truth is, they have been selling the taxpayers out like this for years. Stop the insanity NOW!
California dems/proggressive/socialists have no common sense. After all, they can just raise taxes right? And they do know better than you do. Just ask them!
If you want to see how progressive policies fail you only need to observe several states and cities. For example, the states of California, New Jersey and New York are all fiscally broken states with decades long history of progressive policies. Secondly, there are many cities that are failiing due to long standing progressive policies i.e. Detroit, Chicago, New York City, every city in California, Portland, Cleveland, Boston etc. Great society benefits and poor me personality is progressive!
Payroll stats show government employess make 50% more, on average, than equally qualified employees in the private sector. Why is this? because private sectors have to compete to make a profit. Government has a blank check from the taxpayers and can waste that money any way they wish.
@biorgymd BULL CRAP. It's not like these jobs are difficult to fill. You could find a few thousand applicants for each one of these positions right now.. Currently unemployed people who would be perfectly happy to take these jobs at HALF THE SALARY. You wonder why California is going bankrupt? It's because of overpaid local and state workers such as these. It's a SCAM with the tax payers footing the bill. Spare us of your Obamabot, Union-sympathizing BULL CRAP.
@biorgymd Is massive unemployment necessary for all of our safety too? I guess so, because the liberals in charge of this state are doing a fine job of making things worse!
@groov539 Whatever it takes to keep us safe and to protect the homeland we must do. How would you feel if they ended this program and then the beach was attacked by a terrorist? Lifeguards are first responders and we must take care of our first responders.
@leestauf Yea, but I’m surprised that some fucked up politician hasn’t come out and said the same.
In Hermann Göring's own words:
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way at any time and in any country. "
@riccifilms I guess if those retired lifeguards were working they may deserve what they get. But hey, come on, most of us have to work until we have one foot in the grave before we can even think about drawing from personal retirement plans let alone receiving a guaranteed pension (that is guaranteed by you, the taxpayer). How long should we pay people to not work?
since none of your footage actually shows any of the city of newport beach.instead of hating perhaps you should go swimming in Newport Beach during on of those big south swells and find out first hand they deserve every dollar they make!!
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This is why Vallejo went bankrupt too! They give sweetheart pensions to bureaucrats and middle managers for as little as 2 years service, pay out $200K+ for people with only 15-20 years experience, and then wonder why they have no money.
I'm in Afghanistan. I work 84 hours a week and get no pension. Hourly, I am making half what these bureaucrats make, and I'm in a war zone.
I was a San Diego city lifeguard for 7 years including 2 years full time. The guys who do all of the work are the temps (weekend and summers). Officers merely drive around checking on the temps. The beaches ran perfectly smooth without officers. The officers don't even have to re-qualify (swim). My guess is in case of a water emergency, it would be the temps who whould save them.
All public employees need to have their pensions removed (like private industry).
This is a travesty! The other cities did not want to be left out so they kept making these crazy offers to attract "good workers".....now the taxpayers are being hosed, all over the country.
Also, did I mention that 1 out of every 5 (20%) government employees earns a 6-figure salary? In the private sector, that number is only 1 out of 20 (5%). That's 20% vs. 5%. Are government workers REALLY that special, or do these unions want to milk taxpayers for every cent they can squeeze out of us. They don't contribute towards their retirement funds, either.
Also, he mentioned that the full-timers work four 10-hour days/week. No overtime or "shift differential." Sorry...
"You probably include medical benifits, overtime, and stuff like shift differential."
First, I am not aware of any lifeguards who work swing or graveyard shifts.
Secondly, they pay exactly ZERO towards their health insurance premiums, so it SHOULD be included in the total compensation. The rest of us "working stiffs" pay a portion of our insurance premiums, so what makes these guys so special that they can't pay a portion, too?
The pensions problem has several sources. One is the universal problem of politicians writing checks that don't bounce until the next guy's term. Another is a demographic oversight from the past. The financial numbers would probably have been okay (not as stark) when these policies were set, not anticipating a huge decline in birth rates. This is going to wreak economic havoc in many other areas too. Check out "Demographic Winter" for some real eye-openers!
WTF? Who in their right mind even okay-ed this insanity? These unions are completely out of control and need to be reined in! They destroyed the steel, car, airline, industry and now their destroying the schools. This insanity has to end before it's too late!
These people save lives!!
A paramedic on the beach would cost more, what about the wages in the military and they are payed to kill rather than save lives??
LIFEGUARD is about guarding lives and saving lives how do you justify paying them nothing less than a Paramedic...?
Namdor2012 6 months ago
Whether this is totally true or not, California is the most f**ked up state in the USA. Good weather? Yes. But California is fiscally in the dumper. Keep blowing big money and keep taking care of all of your ILLEGAL aliens and you will keep falling further into financial trouble.
DONGOE 7 months ago
HEY DUMBASS.. THE PICS YOU ARE SHOWING ARE OF HUNTINGTON BEACH... NOT NEWPORT. OH AND UR A FUKIN KOOK
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They've only got 14 lifeguards on Newport beach & I guarantee they aren't quitting! lol Where's Jaws when you need him? I'm up next!
Welbeloved 7 months ago
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Welbeloved 7 months ago
@nightwind1989 It's not a mater of how many apply. It's a matter of how many are qualified and physically able to do the job
Boardingmedic 7 months ago
@Boardingmedic Ok let me rephrase this question. How many qualified people do you think will apply if the salary and benefits were halved?
nightwind1989 7 months ago
You idiots elected these people into office and all these years conservatives were telling you what would happen.where do you people think this money comes from? TAXPAYERS! the ones who work! But will quit their jobs when they realize all their wages are going to government employees! You deserve what you get California. And quit moving here to Texas! We don't want socialism here!
Ricovali 7 months ago
@Ricovali You have tyranny in Texas. Texans wanted to end TSA groping but the federal government threatened to stop all flights in and out of Texas and the Texans caved in. I guess the old saying "don't mess with Texas" doesn't apply anymore.
thelancemanion 7 months ago
I'm just going to point this out... I'd be interested to know the response if you asked any of the relatives of the hundreds of people these guys have pulled out of the drink every year whether they think these guys are overpaid. And 'essential services will have to be cut'? What could be more essential?
Jampop888 9 months ago
@Hexpane Like wow man. California won't be feeding very many, due to lack of water because of a two inch minnow, like you know? I never said anything about the farms there anyway. What I'm saying is that if you guys keep spending and taxing, all you'll have left is tourism and farms. I wouldn't open a business there, when there are other states that don't punish successful business. Enjoy your "People's Republik, just don't ask for a bailout, when lifeguards are paid more than most engineers.
soco13466 9 months ago
Republicans: Er, Forget about the bailout, the financial crisis and the massive unemployment caused by deregulation! These lifeguards get paid TOO MUCH MONEY ARAGHRGAHRGAHGRHAGHRGAGRHAGHR
marzilyas 9 months ago
S. California is bankrupting the North. Its time to split the state.
GunsOfThePhoenix 9 months ago
From reading the comments he must have irritated the local government employees. Lets privatize public safety and see what it costs.
Tack599 9 months ago
I would love you see this fat ass big mouth do those lifeguard's job
I doubt very much you really even understand what they do
But you'll get your face on TV if you hammer hard working public safety employees
Boardingmedic 9 months ago
@Boardingmedic I have a question if you were to have an opening for this position right now how many people do you think will apply?
nightwind1989 7 months ago
You cant stop this with JERRY (UNION) BROWN in office! the rest of us dont matter,
they just need US to PAY for it and keep our mouths shut !!!!!
hondane333 9 months ago
Lifeguards will bankrupt California for sure.
jklyank 9 months ago
Looks like I will be taking my talents to Newport Beach and joining the city lifeguards.
UnrivaledShogun 9 months ago
Don't go in the water except for the first one foot!!! There needs to be negotiation between the people of CA and the govt civil servants. I'm sure we could find lifeguards who would work for less!!! I know about 100 good swimmers who are looking for 15 an hour!
100joeberry 9 months ago
I think Tony Artale might be correct. I often wonder is these stories by AFP are grossly exaggerated. I think the people at AFP are just jealous of people who have a decent benefits package. I say the people at AFP are jealous and bitter people who don't want to see hard working people make a fair wage and a decent pension. Newport Beach is one of the most expensive places to live, so of course their lifeguards must be paid well. Case Closed !
jamesquaglietta 9 months ago
I would gladly do the job for $50.
libertysoup 9 months ago
Save California some money - DROWN YOUR LOCAL LIFEGUARD!
dink65 9 months ago
It's a sport AND a service....
DrTazMage 9 months ago
Reading some of the comments; it's easy to see how the unions and politicians don't have a tough job in fooling most of the voters. Most voters are uninformed or can't read and understand a budget (thanks to the Calif school system). They don't know that unfunded pensions and other benefits are hidden from them. They fail to "look behind the curtain" and live in the land of Oz. If you blindly vote "union" or "party line", you're one of the munchkins!
wizacre 9 months ago
American's for Prosperity is owned by Koch Industries, don't waste your time
VWFringe 9 months ago
It doesn't matter what these lifeguards are getting paid hourly or salary. The only thing that should matter are the pensions handed out to every Government and State worker. I live in Illinois and even the people collecting change in the Tollways are getting pensions when they retire. You can retire after 20 years with 80% of your ending salary in pension and free health care for the rest of your life for driving a city bus. This Country cannot sustain this type of debt. Stop the Pensions!
sargehermiz 9 months ago
Any have some sun tan lotion?
SubyNooby 9 months ago
You couldn't be more inaccurate with your facts!
rjjcox 9 months ago
Lifeguards in Newport Beach make over 2K saves a year. They have a high stress job that is being used as a political football by the likes of this moron. This isn't the kid at the pool. This is young men and women putting their life on the line to save people caught in riptides, and swells. If anyone deserves that kind of money, it's the lifeguards. Newport's beach brings in a lot of revenue to the city. They have some of the best trained guards with lots of experience. Pick on someone else!
AV5Z4 9 months ago
@AV5Z4 Even the City Manager himself admits that most of the "saved lives" are done by the part-time lifeguards that get $16-$22 an hour with no bennies. Some MD's don't even make that much. I think it's a disgusting waste and it may well be being used as a "political football". Doesn't matter where you dig these days you will always find someone's pockets being unfairly filled.
Nillalily 9 months ago
@Nillalily Who trains the part-time lifeguards you fool!
rjjcox 9 months ago
tan = potential skin career =D
unless you are a part time tan, but then i don't think you get the benefit, sorry.
Nothingy2k1 9 months ago
yo david spade.
1. can u actually swim cuz u look awfully outta shape and i doubt the jobs these guys do.
2. that video at the end wasnt newport! thats false advertising that was zuma beach and you make newport look dumb by showing it in fact half of those places were not newport.
3. Maybe u should go after city manager kiff who makes 600,000 dollars a year by doing what? cutting the lifeguards
wpsurfcity7 9 months ago
@wpsurfcity7 I was unable to find out how much David Kiff makes a year. Is it $600,000 and where did you get that info? It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find it true, I just like to make sure of facts before I open my sometimes too big mouth! Most people these days ignore facts.
Nillalily 9 months ago
hello there
GT1004 9 months ago
hello
GT1004 9 months ago
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Working a gov't job is like winning the lottery. Early retirement with lifetime pension and benefits!! Where else can you get that deal??
GT1004 9 months ago
Working a gov't job is like winning the lottery. Early retirement with life time benefits!
Where else can you get that deal????
GT1004 9 months ago
lifeinc.today.com/_news/2011/05/11/6625853-dude-wanna-make-some-big-bucks-try-lifeguarding?GT1=43001
msn.com posted the same tropic.
srrtbb 9 months ago
The report comes from the Orange County (CA) Register. In the report the Lifeguard Management Assc (re: Union), attempts to justify the "fair and reasonable" compensation package he has negotiated for his members. Residents of Orange County and Newport Beach: what input have you in these "negotiations?"
StanZebell 9 months ago
Rik...as a former firefighter, I too am certified an EMT, HazMAT, high-angle rescue, vehicle extrication, and river rescue. I made $10.00/hr per call-out and no retirement benefits. Get over yourself. If you are in the position for a lucrative payoff, I want you no where near my incident.
StanZebell 9 months ago
i live in orange county, ca. this is fucking pissed me off. i want those people to go to jail. fuck newport beach. i don't go to that stinky beach. #LOL
KhmerD0g 9 months ago
@KhmerD0g and your from santa ana? thats a pretty stinky place too idiot, come swim in the ocean see how underapaid the lifeguards are
wpsurfcity7 8 months ago
@wpsurfcity7
I'm from Long Beach. That is where the Cambodian community resides, hence my username. Santa Ana is where the Mexican gangsters live. Santa Ana near Anaheim Hill is way better.
Underpaid lifeguards? Are u freaking kidding me. They make over 50 thousands a year. That is high salary. They beat out flipping burger wage.
KhmerD0g 8 months ago
Holy Jebus! It was not that long ago that California was trying to decrease nurses pay a few years ago--and nurses are more highly educated life savers compared to someone with barely any training who tans all day.
Rikotistic 9 months ago
@Rikotistic you should try passing the lifeguard swimming test and academy before making a remark like this. How can you compare Nurse education to Lifeguards training and certification? (Many lifeguards are EMT's and Paramedics)
sbsequence 9 months ago
@Rikotistic
i am a lifeguard currently in california and we have to be certified as an EMT and or paramedic, as well as many rigorous swimming and psychical tests that are timed. Can nurses swim out into the ocean with a current and pull a person out onto shore under a specific time limit as well as administering proper medical care? i think no. we don't just tan all day.
thrilliciousbre 9 months ago
@thrilliciousbre Well, you sure don't write very well.
Nillalily 9 months ago
most of the footage shown was huntington beach too....ass...
gcpwp 9 months ago
Dude? stick to hair club and forget sensationalizm from someone elses thing. life guards of this magnitude are the best in the nation. they will have to deal with cancer ect from over exposure ect..every job has its perks and hazards pulling idots like you out of the water should be compinsated as due. How much does hais club pay you to do idiomercials?
1aliasjb 9 months ago
Dude? stick to hair club and forget sensationalizm from someone else. life guards of this magnitude are the best in the nation. they will have to deal with cancer ect from over exposure ect..every job has its perks and hazards pulling idots like you out of the water should be compinsated as due. How much does hais club pay you to do idiomercials?
1aliasjb 9 months ago
The guy in the video wishes he was as athletic as a lifeguard.
friedie1jeff 9 months ago
YOUR A FREAKING IDIOT!!!!!
90poloboy 9 months ago
@90poloboy Are you a fuckin' lifeguard??! pussy!
hitlersuckz 9 months ago
@hitlersuckz you know what I am a lifeguard and I am damn proud of it. I trained my ass off to get where I am I can swim a mile in 15 mins save 5 people with one buoy get pounded by waves get back on my tower and do it all over again. You know why I can do this because the FULL TIME lifeguards who work at the beach trained me well. Full time lifeguards deserve every penny of what they make and some guy sitting on the internet calling me a pussy aint going to change anything.
90poloboy 9 months ago
@90poloboy
Really? I know you work harder than people making the same amount of money sitting at a desk. Most people are lazy and I agree. However, I am currently going through twelve years of school to get two hours of sleep a night, if that, being on call as a doctor. You can not even remotely compare to the hell I go through. Full time lifeguards should make a lot, but not 100,000 a year. Sorry.
ws1090 9 months ago
@90poloboy No it wont change anything, but DAMN, teachers save more kids and deserve more than you guys!! Pay teachers more, lower your friggin wages!!! unfriggin believable that you guys get so much money!!
hitlersuckz 9 months ago
@90poloboy atta boy i totally agree im a lifeguard too
wpsurfcity7 8 months ago
And I thought Miami was corrupted........LOL
cmuratf73 9 months ago
There is no lifetime pension and health benefits. There is no money. They won't get squat. These guys will starve like everyone else in CA.
dink65 9 months ago
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Lets just pray that Lifeguard doesn't live until 80 and bites the dust, tomorrow, god willing.
mikea79 9 months ago
Lets just pray that Lifeguard doesn't live until 80 and bites the dust, tomorrow, god willing.
mikea79 9 months ago
I was wondering where your numbers came from? I checked the Newport Beach city proposed budget for 2011-2012 and the amount paid to the lifeguards are far less than your numbers.
tonyartale 9 months ago 8
@tonyartale I looked at the 2010-2011 budget and under account 2360 titled Fire - Lifeguards the amount listed is 4.09 million?
walkersplanet1 9 months ago
@tonyartale - He's full of it. Everyone thats checked the numbers knows these numbers are BS
spamllpitdept 9 months ago 3
@tonyartale The Orange County Register, a local respected newspaper, reported those numbers from the 2010-2011 Budget Document. Newport Beach City Manager David Kiff confirmed those numbers. The "salaries" look lower on the 2011-2012 Budget Document because it is JUST salaries that are reported in that column. You have to add in overtime compensation, benefits for full-timers, and PENSIONS. Please don't comment on a document that you don't know how to interpret.
Nillalily 9 months ago
@Nillalily So since the fiscal year hasn't ended yet, how do you know how much is going to be spent on overtime compensation?
tonyartale 9 months ago
@tonyartale i checked too and the numbers are the same..
crazy14peace 9 months ago
It's pure corruption, pervasive corruption, over, under, around and through.
dewdac 9 months ago
Everything is a scam. When you get to these jobs everything is "relative" that is, everybody hires their releatives and the gravy train just a keeps on movin'
btwall60 9 months ago
This is what many people in California worship, fun in the sun, so why shouldn't their "high priests" of recreation receive their stipend? On the other hand, what is a life worth? I bet those who have had a competent skilled lifeguard intervene to save their son's or daughter's life would think it is well worth the money to protect others from precarious predicaments.
therealzooch 9 months ago
Hurry up BIG ONE ....the sooner this garbage state is gone the better....
HangProgressives 9 months ago
Incredible. I live in southern California, and this is more compensation than many physicians make in a year.
jagdtiger71 9 months ago
If I was in charge of California, I'd purposefully bankrupt the state. Once bankrupt, you can break union contracts. Send all these people packing.
williejenkins666 9 months ago 2
its the unions that take advantage of all this ,its crazy I have been a electrician all my working life ( I love the trade ) so i Know about the union side of things( i have not been a member for many years) if people tell you its not a good old boy system ,they are either running with the pack or brainwashed.
bossou5555 9 months ago
ca u got to loves these guys,their here to take care of the little people.
bossou5555 9 months ago
Fuck the American government. I'm saying it. Come get me if you want you fucking suits. I was a soldier in Iraq, and I regret every minute of it. I hate this fucking country. Greedy, irresponsible dumbshits are all that run the US. People are starving, and the fucking retired lifeguard makes ove 3,000,000 in retirement? Fuck america. I'm ashamed to be associated with this country, and whoever hates me BECAUSE I am American, I agree with. The moment someone asks "revolution?" = I'm there.
GangsterGumbo 9 months ago
@GangsterGumbo hey bud, when you say "fuck the American government" you typically mean the federal government. I'm sure there are many instances when this applies, but this article is specifically discussing California (state and/or local government).
However it probably isn't a far reach to guess that California is going to go bankrupt and expects a bailout by our federal government and they'll probably be all too willing to do it.
williejenkins666 9 months ago
@williejenkins666 If it's in America, it's American.Yeah, it's a state government, or maybe even a local level budget, but it resides here,in this country.When you're paying someone to take care of you, and they do not abide, you get angry.They stole that shit from you, and spent it somewhere so ridiculously ascew from what you want (over $1,000,000,000,000.00 on a war anyone? A trillion! We could build a fucking city on the MOON for a trillion dollars).Maybe not exact, but you get the point.
GangsterGumbo 9 months ago
@GangsterGumbo Yeah, that kind of thinking is prevalent across the entire country. The worst part is you can get a politician like Scott Walker who runs on the campaign that he will "cut spending" and then when he cuts spending a bunch of fucktards go wild like idiots...even people who supported him! Fucking morons.
Everyone likes cuts until it seems to affect what they scam out of their fellow taxpayers.
The government sucks on all levels. We're pretty much screwed.
williejenkins666 9 months ago
@williejenkins666 Check out the Zeitgeist Movement, or the Venus Project if you haven't already. Some of their videos ARE pretty long, but that's just because there is so much to explain. If you don't think it would work, just watch another video. It could and can. The movement just needs more people to know about it. If enough people know about it, it will happen. I won't say utupian, but it'd be about as close to that as we know how to get.
GangsterGumbo 9 months ago
It's obvious these lifeguards are overpaid, BUT the cost of living is HIGHER in California with TV/Movie Industry out there so I do expect them to make a little more than a lifeguard somewhere else, right?
Everything has to be put in the proper context. But, yes, the pensions are ridiculous. Always, FOLLOW THE MONEY in any organization including charities! TRANSPARENCY TRANSPARENCY TRANSPARENCY
maxellmusic 9 months ago
Outrageous! People were wondering why taxes are so high, yet officials complain there isn't enough money. Well, there isn't enough money for such government waste. Common sense NOW! Stop the ridiculous salaries! And you can thank the democrats for this stupidity. The truth is, they have been selling the taxpayers out like this for years. Stop the insanity NOW!
Micheleeroo 9 months ago
HAHA, I could not stop laughing..............California needs to fall into the ocean, there is no hope.
Stark1010 9 months ago
California dems/proggressive/socialists have no common sense. After all, they can just raise taxes right? And they do know better than you do. Just ask them!
leestauf 9 months ago
If you want to see how progressive policies fail you only need to observe several states and cities. For example, the states of California, New Jersey and New York are all fiscally broken states with decades long history of progressive policies. Secondly, there are many cities that are failiing due to long standing progressive policies i.e. Detroit, Chicago, New York City, every city in California, Portland, Cleveland, Boston etc. Great society benefits and poor me personality is progressive!
IruleOverProgressive 9 months ago
Payroll stats show government employess make 50% more, on average, than equally qualified employees in the private sector. Why is this? because private sectors have to compete to make a profit. Government has a blank check from the taxpayers and can waste that money any way they wish.
theconstitution2 9 months ago
Who in government isn't overpaid?
armandx10 9 months ago in playlist gov 2
@armandx10 WH interns. you can make a LOT more in the private sector giving BJs
cloudshe 9 months ago
The nice part about beaches is that you can always get some babes in camera view.
What was this story about?
oracle2world 9 months ago
And why did we not know this? THE LIFE GUARDS KEEP THEIR SALARIES A SECRET BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE OVERPAID AND ARE EMBARRASSED ABOUT IT.
groov539 9 months ago
This is necessary for all of our safety.
biorgymd 9 months ago
@biorgymd BULL CRAP. It's not like these jobs are difficult to fill. You could find a few thousand applicants for each one of these positions right now.. Currently unemployed people who would be perfectly happy to take these jobs at HALF THE SALARY. You wonder why California is going bankrupt? It's because of overpaid local and state workers such as these. It's a SCAM with the tax payers footing the bill. Spare us of your Obamabot, Union-sympathizing BULL CRAP.
groov539 9 months ago
@groov539 It's necessary to protect the Homeland and to keep Americans safe.
biorgymd 9 months ago
@biorgymd Is massive unemployment necessary for all of our safety too? I guess so, because the liberals in charge of this state are doing a fine job of making things worse!
groov539 9 months ago
@groov539 Whatever it takes to keep us safe and to protect the homeland we must do. How would you feel if they ended this program and then the beach was attacked by a terrorist? Lifeguards are first responders and we must take care of our first responders.
biorgymd 9 months ago
@biorgymd You are just being facetious right?
leestauf 9 months ago
@leestauf Yea, but I’m surprised that some fucked up politician hasn’t come out and said the same.
In Hermann Göring's own words:
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way at any time and in any country. "
biorgymd 9 months ago
@biorgymd they are going to save the world with their whistle's and sun screen.
bossou5555 9 months ago
When California goes into total bankruptcy, they had better not come running to the rest of the states to bail them out.
soco13466 9 months ago 13
@riccifilms I guess if those retired lifeguards were working they may deserve what they get. But hey, come on, most of us have to work until we have one foot in the grave before we can even think about drawing from personal retirement plans let alone receiving a guaranteed pension (that is guaranteed by you, the taxpayer). How long should we pay people to not work?
YawnXen 9 months ago
since none of your footage actually shows any of the city of newport beach.instead of hating perhaps you should go swimming in Newport Beach during on of those big south swells and find out first hand they deserve every dollar they make!!
riccifilms 9 months ago
The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) has been showing that we have the ability to generate energy, food, housing, health and education for everyone in the world, while, at the same time, we are able to ELIMINATE OUR ECONOMICAL, SOCIAL & ECOLOGICAL CRISIS along with corruption, poverty, abuse of power, unemployment, social stratification, and other factors that hinder the life and sustainability of the planet and its inhabitants.To know more about it, watch: "Zeitgeist Addendum" - It is on youtube
zeitgeistsrbija 9 months ago
This is why Vallejo went bankrupt too! They give sweetheart pensions to bureaucrats and middle managers for as little as 2 years service, pay out $200K+ for people with only 15-20 years experience, and then wonder why they have no money.
I'm in Afghanistan. I work 84 hours a week and get no pension. Hourly, I am making half what these bureaucrats make, and I'm in a war zone.
TXGRunner 9 months ago
I was a San Diego city lifeguard for 7 years including 2 years full time. The guys who do all of the work are the temps (weekend and summers). Officers merely drive around checking on the temps. The beaches ran perfectly smooth without officers. The officers don't even have to re-qualify (swim). My guess is in case of a water emergency, it would be the temps who whould save them.
All public employees need to have their pensions removed (like private industry).
jmartin4955 9 months ago
This is a travesty! The other cities did not want to be left out so they kept making these crazy offers to attract "good workers".....now the taxpayers are being hosed, all over the country.
lolorichaaron 9 months ago
AFPCalifornia - Cite references in your text and you can make your case much stronger.
MusicalFan1701 9 months ago
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ergo65815 9 months ago
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ergo65815 9 months ago
@ ergo65815:
Also, did I mention that 1 out of every 5 (20%) government employees earns a 6-figure salary? In the private sector, that number is only 1 out of 20 (5%). That's 20% vs. 5%. Are government workers REALLY that special, or do these unions want to milk taxpayers for every cent they can squeeze out of us. They don't contribute towards their retirement funds, either.
Also, he mentioned that the full-timers work four 10-hour days/week. No overtime or "shift differential." Sorry...
TheHarvestBand 9 months ago
@ ergo65815:
"You probably include medical benifits, overtime, and stuff like shift differential."
First, I am not aware of any lifeguards who work swing or graveyard shifts.
Secondly, they pay exactly ZERO towards their health insurance premiums, so it SHOULD be included in the total compensation. The rest of us "working stiffs" pay a portion of our insurance premiums, so what makes these guys so special that they can't pay a portion, too?
You never heard of a Golden Parachute? Google it.
TheHarvestBand 9 months ago
The pensions problem has several sources. One is the universal problem of politicians writing checks that don't bounce until the next guy's term. Another is a demographic oversight from the past. The financial numbers would probably have been okay (not as stark) when these policies were set, not anticipating a huge decline in birth rates. This is going to wreak economic havoc in many other areas too. Check out "Demographic Winter" for some real eye-openers!
CriticalThinkess 9 months ago
WTF? Who in their right mind even okay-ed this insanity? These unions are completely out of control and need to be reined in! They destroyed the steel, car, airline, industry and now their destroying the schools. This insanity has to end before it's too late!
ulooklikeadope 9 months ago
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ergo65815 9 months ago
Absolutely Outrageous!!
WellnessMom 9 months ago
absolutely crazy!!!!!!!!!!1
love yotr videos, even if i'm in ridiculous, just as bad NJ
shortywarn 9 months ago