It is funny, in scandinavia it is not called christmas, it is still called yule. in norway It is spelled "jul", but has about the same pronounciation as Yule.
It is interesting how modernity has watered down this myths and rituals so much that they can be adopted and practiced by anyone and without fear of getting sacrificed or raped. Cheers to The Enlightenment.
"Knecht Ruprecht" definitely isn't of turkish origin - it is in fact a german name - and a later addition to the myths based on Nikolaos of Myra rampant in medieval Europe. And Santa Claus is Saint Nicolas. The satan anagram is just silly. Both santa and saint were indirectly derived from the latin sanctus.
The only 2 birthday celebrations mentioned in the Bible, both ended in death of thw innocent people. One of them was JOHN the Baptist who was beheaded at the birthday celebration of King Herod. Read ur Bible people !
The exact date of Jesus birth is not documented on the BIBLE because it was NOT meant to be celebrated, but his DEATH as a saccifice IS. Birthday celebrations are even MORE filled with superstition and crazy beliefs.
... so it is no reason not to celebrate christmas - even knowing that there have been born other holy man like Jesus long before - by a virgin birth and depending on certain constellation of stars - and that there will be other ones in future - depending on the cosmic constellation - a merry x-mas!!!
/...and Santa Claas has been a white dealer to complete the truth *g* - so this is also something forgotten...)
...fine idea to let us know the truth about the roots of some christian traditions...nearly all adult christians know about it today...christians have been pagan and therefore they've kept their old tradition and encluded it into christianity...like a lot of your culture is adopted by the native americans -
That last comment by csifan2004 was actually by me, nosoultoburn. Some people apparently forget to sign out before they leave a site and are too trusting of others.
Anyway, don't hatemail csifan2004. Send all your hatemail to Santa. He needs some negative attention sometimes. What a queen!
And on to my questioning of Christian tradition: why worship Jesus as the savior? Why did he have to die to forgive our sins? (Why couldn't "god" just say, "fools, I forgive you" and if Jesus got all of our sins forgiven, why do we still have to repent and ask for forgiveness?) The Jesuit belief that crimes must be repaid with blood. So Christianity, in all it's splendor, glory, and self-righteousness, is based on theft and misappropriation of dogma of another religion.
Bravo. People need to hear what zombies they are for blindly following religious traditions. I don't even believe in "god," but I celebrate Christmas in that I make an earnest attempt to be with my family at that time. This is what Xmas should mean by now, anyway, and the only reason it is legal to still have it as a national holiday - promotion of the family, as we Americans work more than citizens of any other industrialized country and would otherwise not have time to see each other.
I'm still skeptical of the Mithras and Jesus. It didn't take me but five minutes on Wikipedia to find out that the claim of virgin birth of Mithras is bogus. In fact, most of the entire section on Mithrian religions and Christianity seems to say that the "connections" between these religions are based on pure speculation and no fact what so ever.
Zeitgeist is one of the most unscholarly documentaries I've ever seen, bordering on propaganda.
FlowCell: Yeah, I kind of regret a bit of the Mithras stuff. Didn't get anything from zeitgeist (what a horrible film.) I much prefer the way The God Who Wasn't There shows all the similarities between Jesus and previous savior god-men.
I never saw the similarities between Jesus and the other savior myths. I see greater similarities between the story of Jesus and Socrates. Much like how Plato used the political dissident Socrates as a mouth peace, so too did the disciples and apostles use the political dissident Jesus as their mouth peace. I liken the Phaedo (a dialog based on real people) to the Gospels. This would explain some of the inconsistencies between the Gospels since they are based on old deteriorated memories.
Mithras was not known as the light of the world or as the good shepherd. Far from dying out at the time of Christianity, Mithraism was reborn in the form of Roman Mithraism soon after Christianity was founded. Shepherds attended Mithra's birth out of rock. They pulled him out of the rock he was born of.
Practicing of Roman Mithraism started in 1st century, I wouldn't call that after Christianity. He was known as divinity of light and son of Ahura Mazda the creator of heavens and earth.
The twelve days of Christmas, lights and mistletoe are not Christian traditions! People just adopted it not knowing the true meaning, The gifts, and more are taken from the ancient 'covenant' it can be related to the marriage covernant in some ways. Later God made a covenant with his people and then Jesus being the last covenant, the slain lam as he is called. To me Christmas is the celebration of Jesus Christ being born to bear my sins, plain and simple.
Im a Christian and your right, all except your assertion Jesus = anyone. In the context of the day maybe, but the similarity ends there. The Bible speaks of shepherds in the field when Jesus was born (more detail, im just to lazy). In short, Jesus was born in the spring.
I figured since the religion of Christianity is based on Jesus, via the teachings of Paul ( yes, Paul the con man ), the least we could ask for is a couple of exact dates. Exact Age? Exact date of Death?? You know by that time, they had a census system implemented. Would seem logical to me, that such an important person in history live, all of sudden forgotten and them all of a sudden remembered. Guess he wasn't that important.
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This video is so inaccurate it ain't even funny. 1ST the birth of Christ was first mentioned on Dec. 25th in 221 AD by Sextus Julius Africanus 2ND Emperor Aurelius instituted Sol Invictus not Saturnalia in 274 AD so the pagan festival connection to Dec 25th is moot. 3RD the Epiphany is also celebrated by Orthodox on Jan 6, so it is not a Catholic invention.
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4th, Mithras was not born in a cave but out of solid rock that left a hole in the rock base (cave). And all recorded Roman forms of Mithraism discovered by archaeologist came 1 century after the New Testament had been already written. So the Mithras = Jesus is complete garbage. This video is proof positive that there are still idiots that believe in hack historians like Acharya S and Kersey Graves.
Wasnt it constantine that used to be a worshipper of mithras before he won the battle? (he won a battle and owed it to the christian god thats how shit got started) I could name a few others .
Horus/Dionysis/Mithra and many more that also follow the jesus like story.
so there are many many more. and santa is not an anogram . look at my previous comment on santa. santa = st Nicolas. Europe brought it to America there it began to change to santa
than again i could be wrong, or right, or we are both right or wrong because there are many different celebrations of those god's and myths around the same time because of their astrological origin. basically we have about 10 different ways of celebration by different tribes. but i think we can both agree on the fact that most of those rituals have celtic and germanic origin .
point 5 is wrong. gift giving is actually a basterised version of sinterklaas(st nicolas). the dutch santa version. this person has taken on attrebutes from Wodan. who gave gifts during this season to all who pleased him and to do that they threw nuts for furtility and baked bread in the form of men. also 2 black ravens were his servants to tell who's been good and bad. the bad ones gt a bare branch symbolising bad harvest. Ultimatly that became santa, the origin of gift giving here i' d say
I was waiting for you to get to Mithris (or however the hell you spell it) and you did ! Great job, now how 'bout the pagan origins of easter or, Eostra ? (again, the spelling....my bad !)
Great vid, but i think you misunderstood Jeremiah 10:5, KJV: "They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good." as applying to the Pagans instead of the trees they were using as idols.
U got Santa wrong as well. Sanata was brought into America by the The Dutch settlers, who had a holy idol called: "St. Nicolas" of Turkey. The Americans took this over, and created (along with coca-cola) the Santa you know now. In my country we both celebrate Santa as well as St. Nicolas, who had "kechts" which were black slaves.
Time to do some research for you, because it isn't all correct, which is understandable if you aren't from Europe. ;)
I live the region where this originated So I know all too well what it means
Joel log (yule log) literally:Wheel Log. they threw berries over them it completely burned,ashes were spread over crop fields to get a good crop season
Mistletoe: Mother of solar god Baldur, Frigga. Her tears grew mistletoe berries, and was used to cast of spirits
Lights:used to cast of spirits of dead people
Gifts:Joel feast and feast in honor of Mithras
Baubles:used for invocation of the shaman on winter solstice
so, since the word Christmas comes from the phrase "Christ's Mass"; it's reasonable to say that this holiday should be called Mithrosmas or something like that.
Do you have more information about the part with St. Nikolaus and Knecht Ruprecht? Because they are typical old fashioned christmas figures in Germany, I would like to know more about them (I am German).
It's actually quite funny, even thought I'm a bit pissed of when december starts there are so many christian programs on the tv about christmas....
Christmas here is called Jõulud, which almist sounds like when you say it as Jul, and santa claus is called jõuluvana which means old jõul or jõul man but i guess there's no difference when you call it jõul or jul. Just a bit difference in language.
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First of all as a Christian Im not piss off by this. The decorations have nothing to do with Christmas,nor do snowmen,and as for gift giving there is nothing wrong with giving to others. So the next time you "try" to piss off any christian do better than this. After all the true meaning of Christmas is the birth of Jesus(not on Dec 25) so there goes the "try" of Mytherus being born on the same day as Jesus.
There is very little in the Christian religion that hasn't been pinched from something that preceded it. Originality wasn't the founders' strong point, it would seem.
Oooh, what a wonderful video! I can't believe I missed this two years ago. I guess I wasn't really around that much back then. I love christmas too, by the way. It's a wonderful time to spend time with your family, and it doesn't need to be religious at all.
Ahh good ole Tyr...Nordic God of War...and slightly lesser known as the guy who originated a one-time method of feeding a ferocious giant wolf by sticking his hand in its mouth. Fenrir...1, Tyr...-5 (digits that is).
Odin as an early model for St. Nick? Hmmm, I dunno...afterall what happened to his goats, his crows, and Sleipner? And for that matter, the fact that he only had one eye? Oh wait, didn't Sleipner have 8 legs? How many reindeer were there? Y'all might be on to something here.
Maybe you guys already knew this, but Halloween is also technically a Catholic holiday that the Catholic church stole from the pagans. The pagans celebrated their own New Year's Eve. Because the Roman Catholic church couldn't stop them from celebrating it, it took over the holiday by changing it to "All Hallows Eve" ("All Hallows" day meaning "All Saints Day"; "hallows" as in "hallowed"). When Protestants say that they think Halloween is Satantic, that comes from an anti-Catholic bias.
"and the number one symbol stolen by christians is...Mithras!"
you've been gone from youtube a while, that's fine, but atheists by and large have abandoned that notion. There are no pre-new testament sources backing them up.
migkillertwo: I understand the abandoning of Mithras as Jesus and maybe I'll put a disclaimer in the video description. The main point to take away is that Jesus is 1) not unique and 2) most likely compiled from borrowed concepts.
"The main point to take away is that Jesus is 1) not unique"
well sure, there are a crap load of concepts from Judaism found in Jesus.
"most likely compiled from borrowed concepts" borrowed from whom? Judaism? not a problem in the least. Paganism? here we have a problem. First off, the evidence is pretty pathetic. history of this theory in a nutshell, the history of religions school of the 19th century tried to explain away the origin of christianity by (cont.)
(cont.), but beginning in the 1920s, and ending in the later 40s, Scholars of the New Testament near-universally abandoned this idea and began to recongnize that the Christianity of the early 1st century is an inherently Jewish religion. The oft-touted parallels have no pre-new testament sources, and were pretty horribly stretched by the scholars who belonged to the history of religions school. R.F. Littledale used this argument to prove that Max Mueller, a great oxford (cont.)
(cont.) New Testament scholar who promoted this idea of pagan origins of Christianity, did not even exist. It all shows the huge methodological issues with this parallelomania Biblical critics fall into.
migkillertwo: Ah, I knew I came back to YouTube for a reason - to see Creationists attempt to make themselves look credible. It makes me laugh. You're confusing the issue. There are blatantly obvious parallels between Buddha, Krishna and Jesus. Search YouTube for stuff by Dr. Robert Beckford - he's a popular theologian.
migkillertwo: I "smell" reasonable credibility when people in fields of Science are respected enough to represent their field on BBC. But that's just me. Pre-NT sources? How about the well-documented practice of Easter being practiced thousands of years before Christ's birth? The celebration of Christmas is an idea Christians stole from Pagans. That's it. It's obvious that Dec. 25 is 1) not Jesus' true birthdate and 2) it was a political move by the Church to celebrate X-mas on that day.
"How about the well-documented practice of Easter being practiced thousands of years before Christ's birth?" OOOH! well documented you say!? well could I have any evidence for this? and please remember to connect Passover with the pagan celebrations of Easter because a Jewish origin for something in the New Testament is always more likely than a pagan origin.
although I fully agree with that last bit about christmas, only reason I celebrate it is because its pretty fun.
I don't remember the part in the Bible about Jesus shitting out colored eggs and hiding them for kids. I'm pretty sure that rabbits and eggs are signs of fertility because it's a pagan fertility festival celebrating the spring. It's rather odd that your fake savior got nailed to a stick so he could come back just in time for a pagan festival.
"It's rather odd that your fake savior got nailed to a stick so he could come back just in time for a pagan festival."
RIAC, I thought you were better than this. For a moment back there, I thought you were actually capable of seeing through the bullshit that is the pagan christianity argument. RIAC, the NT relates easter to PASSOVER! passover is based on the lunar calendar, not the Solar calendar. these pagan festivals were based on the solar calendar. your point is moot.
So you are saying that the pagans waited until the crucifixion then traveled back in time to retroactively decide when to have their holiday? Also could you show me the traditions involving rabbits and eggs on passover?
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"For starters, both the birth"
The New Testament does not give a birthdate for Jesus moron
"and death of Jesus coincide with pagan holidays."
Then the NT authors would have identified this, or made the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death painfullly similar to these pagan festivals. The death of Jesus coincides with PASSOVER.
"I think it's more likely that those aren't the real dates."
Dec 25 isn't, but Jesus' crucifixion on the eve of passover is historical fact.
man bear pig lol
yootoobiscrap 1 year ago
It is funny, in scandinavia it is not called christmas, it is still called yule. in norway It is spelled "jul", but has about the same pronounciation as Yule.
mrKreuzfeld 2 years ago
Great Vid
neobluefox375 2 years ago
It is interesting how modernity has watered down this myths and rituals so much that they can be adopted and practiced by anyone and without fear of getting sacrificed or raped. Cheers to The Enlightenment.
marneedear 2 years ago
great stuff
PookySan1 2 years ago
Odin... PAGAN GOD OF THUNDER?! dude.... thunder? Thor man, Odin was war and wisdom plus some other tidy things.
10thAngel 2 years ago
Awesome!
thanks to FFrethinker for featuring your vid
AbdultheImpailler 2 years ago
Ramen!
MrAmmo 2 years ago
"Knecht Ruprecht" definitely isn't of turkish origin - it is in fact a german name - and a later addition to the myths based on Nikolaos of Myra rampant in medieval Europe. And Santa Claus is Saint Nicolas. The satan anagram is just silly. Both santa and saint were indirectly derived from the latin sanctus.
f1rz3nz3r0 2 years ago
Correction: Wicca didn't exist until about 50 years ago.
7410n0 2 years ago
The only 2 birthday celebrations mentioned in the Bible, both ended in death of thw innocent people. One of them was JOHN the Baptist who was beheaded at the birthday celebration of King Herod. Read ur Bible people !
baseballrocksduds 2 years ago
The exact date of Jesus birth is not documented on the BIBLE because it was NOT meant to be celebrated, but his DEATH as a saccifice IS. Birthday celebrations are even MORE filled with superstition and crazy beliefs.
baseballrocksduds 2 years ago
Epic win!
Nonoyawns 2 years ago
I love this video, it takes everything I've been trying to explain to my family for the last ten years and wraps it all up with a pretty bow!
5*
TheRedneckAtheist 2 years ago
I'd take it with a grain of salt; it's more humor than information.
7410n0 2 years ago
:D haha christians take that! lol
AIDSandHONEY 2 years ago
... so it is no reason not to celebrate christmas - even knowing that there have been born other holy man like Jesus long before - by a virgin birth and depending on certain constellation of stars - and that there will be other ones in future - depending on the cosmic constellation - a merry x-mas!!!
/...and Santa Claas has been a white dealer to complete the truth *g* - so this is also something forgotten...)
maaafi042 2 years ago
...fine idea to let us know the truth about the roots of some christian traditions...nearly all adult christians know about it today...christians have been pagan and therefore they've kept their old tradition and encluded it into christianity...like a lot of your culture is adopted by the native americans -
maaafi042 2 years ago
lol at 4:53, what an ass of a snowman :L
MCILROK11 2 years ago
That last comment by csifan2004 was actually by me, nosoultoburn. Some people apparently forget to sign out before they leave a site and are too trusting of others.
Anyway, don't hatemail csifan2004. Send all your hatemail to Santa. He needs some negative attention sometimes. What a queen!
nosoultoburn 2 years ago
And on to my questioning of Christian tradition: why worship Jesus as the savior? Why did he have to die to forgive our sins? (Why couldn't "god" just say, "fools, I forgive you" and if Jesus got all of our sins forgiven, why do we still have to repent and ask for forgiveness?) The Jesuit belief that crimes must be repaid with blood. So Christianity, in all it's splendor, glory, and self-righteousness, is based on theft and misappropriation of dogma of another religion.
nosoultoburn 2 years ago
Bravo. People need to hear what zombies they are for blindly following religious traditions. I don't even believe in "god," but I celebrate Christmas in that I make an earnest attempt to be with my family at that time. This is what Xmas should mean by now, anyway, and the only reason it is legal to still have it as a national holiday - promotion of the family, as we Americans work more than citizens of any other industrialized country and would otherwise not have time to see each other.
csifan2004 2 years ago
That was BEAUTIFUL!
daisytg1 2 years ago 2
I'm still skeptical of the Mithras and Jesus. It didn't take me but five minutes on Wikipedia to find out that the claim of virgin birth of Mithras is bogus. In fact, most of the entire section on Mithrian religions and Christianity seems to say that the "connections" between these religions are based on pure speculation and no fact what so ever.
Zeitgeist is one of the most unscholarly documentaries I've ever seen, bordering on propaganda.
/wiki/Mithraic_Mysteries#Mithraism_and_Christianity
FlowCell 2 years ago
FlowCell: Yeah, I kind of regret a bit of the Mithras stuff. Didn't get anything from zeitgeist (what a horrible film.) I much prefer the way The God Who Wasn't There shows all the similarities between Jesus and previous savior god-men.
zombiechaddy 2 years ago
I never saw the similarities between Jesus and the other savior myths. I see greater similarities between the story of Jesus and Socrates. Much like how Plato used the political dissident Socrates as a mouth peace, so too did the disciples and apostles use the political dissident Jesus as their mouth peace. I liken the Phaedo (a dialog based on real people) to the Gospels. This would explain some of the inconsistencies between the Gospels since they are based on old deteriorated memories.
FlowCell 2 years ago
that was awesome. lol
jHotmetala 2 years ago
im so happy this one is back.
MichaelMacabre 2 years ago
nice vid : D
I'm so glad that us scandinavians still call Christmas for Yule /Jul :D now isn't that cool. ;)
hakabe 2 years ago
Great vid I'm sending it to so mean people!
SinuousStudios 2 years ago
Non evil no-good doers lmao
chailizard 2 years ago
Mithras was not known as the light of the world or as the good shepherd. Far from dying out at the time of Christianity, Mithraism was reborn in the form of Roman Mithraism soon after Christianity was founded. Shepherds attended Mithra's birth out of rock. They pulled him out of the rock he was born of.
KabaneTheChristian 2 years ago
Practicing of Roman Mithraism started in 1st century, I wouldn't call that after Christianity. He was known as divinity of light and son of Ahura Mazda the creator of heavens and earth.
AsleepWithDragons 2 years ago
hu didnt see that comeing
snail10000 2 years ago
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chailizard 2 years ago
Very nice lol. May his noodely appendage bless us all!
MisanthropicAtheist1 3 years ago 3
You pwn every religion, thank you.
BBNLCB 3 years ago 2
The twelve days of Christmas, lights and mistletoe are not Christian traditions! People just adopted it not knowing the true meaning, The gifts, and more are taken from the ancient 'covenant' it can be related to the marriage covernant in some ways. Later God made a covenant with his people and then Jesus being the last covenant, the slain lam as he is called. To me Christmas is the celebration of Jesus Christ being born to bear my sins, plain and simple.
alaskanalain 3 years ago
Dis iz sooo funny i love 1:16..lol
LoNdOnGaL4LyFe 3 years ago
true, funny though lol.
DasJager0603 3 years ago
Thanks, man! I've heard it before, but great presentation!
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felixmab 3 years ago
hahaha! In your face stupid christians!
378spanish 3 years ago
Im a Christian and your right, all except your assertion Jesus = anyone. In the context of the day maybe, but the similarity ends there. The Bible speaks of shepherds in the field when Jesus was born (more detail, im just to lazy). In short, Jesus was born in the spring.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago
When exactly was he born??? I would figure that people would document his exact birth, since he was the son of god.
ca6vtec 3 years ago
Why would you figure that?
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago
I figured since the religion of Christianity is based on Jesus, via the teachings of Paul ( yes, Paul the con man ), the least we could ask for is a couple of exact dates. Exact Age? Exact date of Death?? You know by that time, they had a census system implemented. Would seem logical to me, that such an important person in history live, all of sudden forgotten and them all of a sudden remembered. Guess he wasn't that important.
ca6vtec 3 years ago 3
I enjoyed the surprising cameo by the Winter Sonata (korean drama) stars as well as the main content of this video :>
earthypig 3 years ago
i love ur videos
MichelleMcCaffreyAnn 3 years ago
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This video is so inaccurate it ain't even funny. 1ST the birth of Christ was first mentioned on Dec. 25th in 221 AD by Sextus Julius Africanus 2ND Emperor Aurelius instituted Sol Invictus not Saturnalia in 274 AD so the pagan festival connection to Dec 25th is moot. 3RD the Epiphany is also celebrated by Orthodox on Jan 6, so it is not a Catholic invention.
MaryamNoor 3 years ago
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4th, Mithras was not born in a cave but out of solid rock that left a hole in the rock base (cave). And all recorded Roman forms of Mithraism discovered by archaeologist came 1 century after the New Testament had been already written. So the Mithras = Jesus is complete garbage. This video is proof positive that there are still idiots that believe in hack historians like Acharya S and Kersey Graves.
MaryamNoor 3 years ago
Your number one should contain a little more .
Wasnt it constantine that used to be a worshipper of mithras before he won the battle? (he won a battle and owed it to the christian god thats how shit got started) I could name a few others .
Horus/Dionysis/Mithra and many more that also follow the jesus like story.
so there are many many more. and santa is not an anogram . look at my previous comment on santa. santa = st Nicolas. Europe brought it to America there it began to change to santa
razoorsharp 3 years ago
than again i could be wrong, or right, or we are both right or wrong because there are many different celebrations of those god's and myths around the same time because of their astrological origin. basically we have about 10 different ways of celebration by different tribes. but i think we can both agree on the fact that most of those rituals have celtic and germanic origin .
razoorsharp 3 years ago
point 5 is wrong. gift giving is actually a basterised version of sinterklaas(st nicolas). the dutch santa version. this person has taken on attrebutes from Wodan. who gave gifts during this season to all who pleased him and to do that they threw nuts for furtility and baked bread in the form of men. also 2 black ravens were his servants to tell who's been good and bad. the bad ones gt a bare branch symbolising bad harvest. Ultimatly that became santa, the origin of gift giving here i' d say
razoorsharp 3 years ago
i have never heard of such self-referencing rubbish in my life!
and i am not even christian so dont mind the odd bit of christmas bashing but this is just ridiculous!!!
02023683 3 years ago
I'd appreciate some cited sources, because there's a few things in there that I know you definitely twisted.
Professorben112 3 years ago 2
I never heard the SNOWMAN thing before. Did you make it up?
HAPeMILL 3 years ago
I am glad that you made this! The truth must be told!
The snowmen part was a huge wtf moment for me though considering I am majoring in Japanese
Lexabyte 3 years ago
I was waiting for you to get to Mithris (or however the hell you spell it) and you did ! Great job, now how 'bout the pagan origins of easter or, Eostra ? (again, the spelling....my bad !)
lordpimpd 3 years ago
He says at the end of the video he made the Hindu part up :)
Offspring1337 3 years ago
Great vid, but i think you misunderstood Jeremiah 10:5, KJV: "They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good." as applying to the Pagans instead of the trees they were using as idols.
xeperdamien 3 years ago
You're still one of my favorite tubers, I hope you make another video soon.
cerpintaxt83 3 years ago
AHAHAH BRILLIANT!
GabeTwo 3 years ago
Why would Japanese worship a Hindu god? That makes no sense.
HojoOSanagi 3 years ago
Gary Hoey does the best xmas music. Look him up on itunes or wherever the fuck kids get their music from nowadays.
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago
U got Santa wrong as well. Sanata was brought into America by the The Dutch settlers, who had a holy idol called: "St. Nicolas" of Turkey. The Americans took this over, and created (along with coca-cola) the Santa you know now. In my country we both celebrate Santa as well as St. Nicolas, who had "kechts" which were black slaves.
Time to do some research for you, because it isn't all correct, which is understandable if you aren't from Europe. ;)
p3945u5 3 years ago
Okay, so instead of being Pagan it was about a man who gave gifts to children and owned slaves. Well then.
GabeTwo 3 years ago
I live the region where this originated So I know all too well what it means
Joel log (yule log) literally:Wheel Log. they threw berries over them it completely burned,ashes were spread over crop fields to get a good crop season
Mistletoe: Mother of solar god Baldur, Frigga. Her tears grew mistletoe berries, and was used to cast of spirits
Lights:used to cast of spirits of dead people
Gifts:Joel feast and feast in honor of Mithras
Baubles:used for invocation of the shaman on winter solstice
p3945u5 3 years ago
Shiva, the goddess of war, famous for her giant.. lingam..? XD
Something about that just amuses me. Overall a cool video, miscellaneous mistakes aside.
00SEKHMET00 3 years ago
Ones vision, extends as far as ones attitude allows...
PeaceProfit 3 years ago
EXCELLENT vid.
the next one showld be on Halloween.
I think its a Celtic holliday, not sure.
Mr0bombastic 3 years ago
Shiva was the god of war, not goddess.
pienipaha 3 years ago
he say he just made that one up
arga400 3 years ago
Outstanding!
Largo64 3 years ago
so, since the word Christmas comes from the phrase "Christ's Mass"; it's reasonable to say that this holiday should be called Mithrosmas or something like that.
GodlessHippie 3 years ago
A Merry Winters Solstice to you too
5/5
SuperFlyNB 3 years ago
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wow, you made like half of this up.
librarychair 3 years ago
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Uh. Wicca didn't exist in ye olde brittain. Wicca is a modern invention. Call it what it is (was) - ancient paganism.
librarychair 3 years ago
librarychair: Read the vid description for the Wicca stuff.
zombiechaddy 3 years ago
Do you have more information about the part with St. Nikolaus and Knecht Ruprecht? Because they are typical old fashioned christmas figures in Germany, I would like to know more about them (I am German).
PatrickAlbers 3 years ago
Nice video
Just one small note
According to the Bible, the Magi first arrived in Bethlehem some two years after seeing the star appear.
Therefore Jesus was as much as two years old and back in Nazareth not in a manger in Jerusalem.
This is the reason that King Herod killed male babies under two years of age.
In conclusion, Christians CANT honestly relate the gifts to the Magi or "Wise Men from the East" on the day of his birth.
Course we cant let facts get in the way of faith can we?
;~)
harryogre 3 years ago 11
Sorry, I gave a thumbs down by accident.
nag73 3 years ago
Solved.
skeleto 3 years ago 2
It's actually quite funny, even thought I'm a bit pissed of when december starts there are so many christian programs on the tv about christmas....
Christmas here is called Jõulud, which almist sounds like when you say it as Jul, and santa claus is called jõuluvana which means old jõul or jõul man but i guess there's no difference when you call it jõul or jul. Just a bit difference in language.
Balthazar121 3 years ago
But... I'm a pagan though.
Vegama 3 years ago
Good to see this video back on-line
YahooJerseyRick 3 years ago 4
TheOnion has a wonderful video titled
"Where is the real spirit of Halloween?"
lovasip 3 years ago
Yay! For the Spaghetti Monster reference at the end :D.
Have you ever read the article called 'Christmas Should Be More Commercial'?
I'm guessing from this video that you may like it.
rAmen =]
thomasr989 3 years ago
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First of all as a Christian Im not piss off by this. The decorations have nothing to do with Christmas,nor do snowmen,and as for gift giving there is nothing wrong with giving to others. So the next time you "try" to piss off any christian do better than this. After all the true meaning of Christmas is the birth of Jesus(not on Dec 25) so there goes the "try" of Mytherus being born on the same day as Jesus.
donny6085 3 years ago
YESSSS! Christians get owned AGAIN.
jaws900 3 years ago
Old Satan Nick?
jussts 3 years ago
There is very little in the Christian religion that hasn't been pinched from something that preceded it. Originality wasn't the founders' strong point, it would seem.
thatgaybloke 3 years ago 6
I love the holiday Holiday.
Ramen.
10secstomeltdown 3 years ago
"when's the last time you thought about the magi when you were at the checkout line at macy's?"
I woulden't know. I dont think I've ever been inside a macy's.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
This was awesome :) Did you do one on easter too?
Brianswers 3 years ago
Awesome! Thanks so much for that, this is both fun and true, bummer that videos like these probably will never be featured on youtube.
NordicSpirit 3 years ago
awesome chad!
Sure2Vers191 3 years ago
Thanks Chad!
Btw, I wish you would consider making videos again. Some of your videos are my all-time favorites!
Jessiqua42 3 years ago
Xmas is the only thing I actually like about Christianity.
dechha1981 3 years ago 2
Anybody know where to get a tauroctony replica? I've been looking everywhere...
peirigill 3 years ago
Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction, is male. I don't know where Squaresoft got this female one from.
Eldxale 3 years ago
more titties? That would be the answer
butterflip 3 years ago
damn that was a reply, to the squaresoft female god stuff, don't know why YT didn't wanted to post it there...
butterflip 3 years ago
Number six: that's what's always going on in my head.
Eldxale 3 years ago
yay
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading this video, it's one of my favorites from your old account.
TheJudasAbstract 3 years ago
Why are you attacking CHRISTMAS? Jesus loves you...
But seriously, this video is interesting...Good job on making up the snowman thing.
CalvinCoooolidge 3 years ago
I loved/love this video, I missed it!
MADAMSsays 3 years ago
Oooh, what a wonderful video! I can't believe I missed this two years ago. I guess I wasn't really around that much back then. I love christmas too, by the way. It's a wonderful time to spend time with your family, and it doesn't need to be religious at all.
BadYahweh 3 years ago
Keep christ away from my Yule!
It's winter, I burn logs... 1000's of them might be yules log I don't know -never asked them! =o)
Paxmax 3 years ago
you made my night, thankyou, cant wait for the next
nevesxr 3 years ago
Great job, chadagg. I've been missing your vids, man!
baronblod2003 3 years ago
thor viking god of thunder and tyr viking god of war. good vid.
khmer41980 3 years ago
Ahh good ole Tyr...Nordic God of War...and slightly lesser known as the guy who originated a one-time method of feeding a ferocious giant wolf by sticking his hand in its mouth. Fenrir...1, Tyr...-5 (digits that is).
Odin as an early model for St. Nick? Hmmm, I dunno...afterall what happened to his goats, his crows, and Sleipner? And for that matter, the fact that he only had one eye? Oh wait, didn't Sleipner have 8 legs? How many reindeer were there? Y'all might be on to something here.
Nelapidae 3 years ago 2
Awesome video!
P.S. Merry Commercial Christmas to you, too. ;-)
legendre007 3 years ago
Maybe you guys already knew this, but Halloween is also technically a Catholic holiday that the Catholic church stole from the pagans. The pagans celebrated their own New Year's Eve. Because the Roman Catholic church couldn't stop them from celebrating it, it took over the holiday by changing it to "All Hallows Eve" ("All Hallows" day meaning "All Saints Day"; "hallows" as in "hallowed"). When Protestants say that they think Halloween is Satantic, that comes from an anti-Catholic bias.
legendre007 3 years ago
one more thing, from whence cometh the responsibility to hold to true beliefs Chadagg?
migkillertwo 3 years ago
"and the number one symbol stolen by christians is...Mithras!"
you've been gone from youtube a while, that's fine, but atheists by and large have abandoned that notion. There are no pre-new testament sources backing them up.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
migkillertwo: I understand the abandoning of Mithras as Jesus and maybe I'll put a disclaimer in the video description. The main point to take away is that Jesus is 1) not unique and 2) most likely compiled from borrowed concepts.
zombiechaddy 3 years ago
"The main point to take away is that Jesus is 1) not unique"
well sure, there are a crap load of concepts from Judaism found in Jesus.
"most likely compiled from borrowed concepts" borrowed from whom? Judaism? not a problem in the least. Paganism? here we have a problem. First off, the evidence is pretty pathetic. history of this theory in a nutshell, the history of religions school of the 19th century tried to explain away the origin of christianity by (cont.)
migkillertwo 3 years ago
(cont.), but beginning in the 1920s, and ending in the later 40s, Scholars of the New Testament near-universally abandoned this idea and began to recongnize that the Christianity of the early 1st century is an inherently Jewish religion. The oft-touted parallels have no pre-new testament sources, and were pretty horribly stretched by the scholars who belonged to the history of religions school. R.F. Littledale used this argument to prove that Max Mueller, a great oxford (cont.)
migkillertwo 3 years ago
(cont.) New Testament scholar who promoted this idea of pagan origins of Christianity, did not even exist. It all shows the huge methodological issues with this parallelomania Biblical critics fall into.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
migkillertwo: Ah, I knew I came back to YouTube for a reason - to see Creationists attempt to make themselves look credible. It makes me laugh. You're confusing the issue. There are blatantly obvious parallels between Buddha, Krishna and Jesus. Search YouTube for stuff by Dr. Robert Beckford - he's a popular theologian.
zombiechaddy 3 years ago
1: I guess I would be a creationist in the loosest sense of the term
2: "popular theologian"? I smell sensationalism. do you perchance have pre-new testament sources to back up the validity of these parallel claims?
migkillertwo 3 years ago
migkillertwo: I "smell" reasonable credibility when people in fields of Science are respected enough to represent their field on BBC. But that's just me. Pre-NT sources? How about the well-documented practice of Easter being practiced thousands of years before Christ's birth? The celebration of Christmas is an idea Christians stole from Pagans. That's it. It's obvious that Dec. 25 is 1) not Jesus' true birthdate and 2) it was a political move by the Church to celebrate X-mas on that day.
zombiechaddy 3 years ago
"How about the well-documented practice of Easter being practiced thousands of years before Christ's birth?" OOOH! well documented you say!? well could I have any evidence for this? and please remember to connect Passover with the pagan celebrations of Easter because a Jewish origin for something in the New Testament is always more likely than a pagan origin.
although I fully agree with that last bit about christmas, only reason I celebrate it is because its pretty fun.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
I don't remember the part in the Bible about Jesus shitting out colored eggs and hiding them for kids. I'm pretty sure that rabbits and eggs are signs of fertility because it's a pagan fertility festival celebrating the spring. It's rather odd that your fake savior got nailed to a stick so he could come back just in time for a pagan festival.
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago 6
"It's rather odd that your fake savior got nailed to a stick so he could come back just in time for a pagan festival."
RIAC, I thought you were better than this. For a moment back there, I thought you were actually capable of seeing through the bullshit that is the pagan christianity argument. RIAC, the NT relates easter to PASSOVER! passover is based on the lunar calendar, not the Solar calendar. these pagan festivals were based on the solar calendar. your point is moot.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
So you are saying that the pagans waited until the crucifixion then traveled back in time to retroactively decide when to have their holiday? Also could you show me the traditions involving rabbits and eggs on passover?
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago 4
"So you are saying that the pagans waited until the crucifixion then traveled back in time to retroactively decide when to have their holiday?"
RIAC, the fact that Jesus' resurrection was close to a pagan holiday proves absolutely nothing.
"Also could you show me the traditions involving rabbits and eggs on passover?"
Does the NT mention egg-laying rabbits? I could give a flying fuck about midieval "christian-ized" tradition.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
I have to follow the evidence where it leads me. There's just too many coincidences that have to be ignored if we accept your explanation.
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago
what sorts of coincidences RIAC?
migkillertwo 3 years ago
For starters, both the birth and death of Jesus coincide with pagan holidays. I think it's more likely that those aren't the real dates.
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago
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"For starters, both the birth"
The New Testament does not give a birthdate for Jesus moron
"and death of Jesus coincide with pagan holidays."
Then the NT authors would have identified this, or made the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death painfullly similar to these pagan festivals. The death of Jesus coincides with PASSOVER.
"I think it's more likely that those aren't the real dates."
Dec 25 isn't, but Jesus' crucifixion on the eve of passover is historical fact.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
Resorting to name calling already? Pathetic.
I'm glad you're willing to admit that Christmas isn't the birth of Jesus. Most Christians still cling to that.
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago 2
"resorting to name calling?"
I will always resort to name calling when I'm talking to you RIAC.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
I'm sure that's something Jesus would do.
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago
"I'm sure that's something Jesus would do."
actually, IT IS :D!
Jesus used riposte quite often in the Gospels
migkillertwo 3 years ago
From the Oxford dictionary:
riposte
• noun, a quick clever reply
insult
• verb, speak to or treat with disrespect or abuse
ReligionIsACrutch 3 years ago
"Dec 25 isn't, but Jesus' crucifixion on the eve of passover is historical fact."
A block called Jesus was crisified not THE jesus.
jaws900 3 years ago
thank you Gregory the Great.
migkillertwo 3 years ago
More more more more more more more more!
I love you chadagg!
Libertarianist 3 years ago
Sweet, I hope you start posting more often! This was an oldie and goldie, so keep up the good work.
Andrewticus04 3 years ago
i am more of a Hogswatch sort of guy myself.
NemoUtopian 3 years ago
An old favorite. Nice to see it again. :-)
ProfMTH 3 years ago
Ah' good ole classic Chaddy.
DeviantCare 3 years ago
I really really like this!
AtomsAlpha1 3 years ago
I'm from Finland, Christmas is know as Joulu here, derived from yule as you can guess.
Re-upload? I don't remember seeing this before.
Looking forward your new videos.
Saukko31 3 years ago
I was thinking about this video just yesterday.
X D
MagnusIan 3 years ago
Shit yeah, I saw this video last year when you had it on your old channel, but I loved to watch it again :)
Keep publishing your stuff, it was all excellent, and maybe make some new? Would be highly appreciated ;)
narsil1984 3 years ago
i cant remember how i know christmas is pagan, but it makes sense, most christian stories and ideas come from early paganism
evTom14 3 years ago
re-run!
Just kidding, still a great video. Love the "Sorry ladies, I'm not single" part.
Michigan1985 3 years ago
Glad you re-uploaded this. Any plans for new videos?
lamnaa 3 years ago
Yes, most likely at the start of 2009.
zombiechaddy 3 years ago
Cracking! Your videos are excellent.
lamnaa 3 years ago
about time!
unixhead101 3 years ago
excellent!
Valvallaria 3 years ago