Thanks for directing me here, Mark. This was an excellent scene. Poor Dex. I feel a little for him now... and I hope he can get past it. I will have to watch and see. I hope he can realize that Lucas is a great friend and not at all like his coach. I got a little confused when it started subtitling in dutch. I was like WAIT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND-- oh they're speaking english now. lol
its so sad that dex went through such a horrible ordeal, its no wonder the way he treats lucas, i suppose lucas is very touchy feely and everytime he does this or acts that way with dex it just brings it back to dex, though without this atmosphere and problem i couldnt see them getting along anyway, lucas is so laid back while dex is the opposite and quite uptight and self orientated. love the story line, think its brillant and love the sub's, which read brillantly , go raibh mile mhaith agat,
Wow, I have to say, kudos to Holland for writing and making such complex and well-done plots, and incorporating more character-driven twists and turns. I really disliked Dex before, but seeing this, I can at least understand him better. Fifteen is still young and impressionable, and it could affect him in ways he never realized until later. *shrug* I can't see a US soap even touching this. Whether it turns out that he's gay, straight, whatever, it will make a good storyline/arc.
Humans are complex and multi-faceted. Our responses to traumatic experiences are as different and varied as we are. There is no cookie-cutter way to react to having been abused/molested. People do the best they can.
Something had to "break" Dex before he'd talk about what happened to him. That "something" happen to be Lucas and Nina.
.
And, just like Lucas has layers and IS NOT just some sexified, gay, belligerant brat, Dex IS NOT just some one-note retrograde, macho, homophobe.
i feel bad for dex's past but the writers have made me hate him so much so that, dare i say it, the reasoning for his homophobia sounded lamer than it would had they not waited so long to tell us :\ i still think that he overreacts... lucas is in no way a child molester
Just when I thought there was no way for Dex to become human again, no excuse for his behaviour, this happens. Amazing writing. I thought the story was difficult to predict because Dex's character was going nowhere, I was wrong. I look forward to being wrong in the future. Go, writers, go!
well... I think most of realized that something like this happened to Dex because nothing else would explain the hysteria Dex constantly launch against harmless actions by Lucas
If a homophobe screams "Fag!" it's evil. But it doesn't feel more evil if they scream "Homo!" or less evil if they scream "Gay!". Hate is evil.
I call myself a "dyke" and rarely use "lesbian" unless I'm speaking academically or to straight folks.
All my friends use the word "dyke" to refer to themselves and each other but some women just die a thousand deaths if you use that word in their presence.
I like "Homo". It's descriptive, accurate and efficient. ;)
We say the same here in Norway too. Homo means gay, and it's not a bad word. Well, it can be used as a slur, but most often it's just used to say someone is gay, we say "homo", "homofil" or "homse".
here in germany homo is very negative - you say it when you want to hurt a person - so everytime the actors say it i remind my self ok they are dutch so its ok to say it.
In Canada it's the same way, "homo" is a slur, but "gay" is not. Everytime Lucas says "homo" I flinch, I think he's angry. I have to remind myself it's different there.
Well, like I said, homo COULD be used as a slur in Norway too, but it could also be used just to say someone is gay. It depends on the context. Like "I am homo" is ok, but not to insult someone saying "f-ing homo", if you know what I mean..
@JiminPalmSprings Over here it's the most normal word. Like 'straight' we also se 'hetero'. We just say the words homosexual and heterosexual without the 'sexual' behind it ;-). Nothing weird to Dutch people at all, so I hope you understand it isn't meant bad at all :-).
@JiminPalmSprings I live in the netherlands and the word homo is from homosexual which means mansexual I agree with you that the word isnt really good but it is just to say that you love man
The words "gay" and "child molester" are not synonyms. A gay person is gay and a child molester is a child molester. Just when it seems that humanity takes two steps forward, you have to take us three steps back.
im gay u idiot, and what u said is so obvious that making the statement is what takes us three steps back, cause it doesn't need explaining. The guy who molested him is gay, and is a molester that obviously doesn't mean that being gay means ur a molester, but Dex doesn't think that that's his problem and that is what i was trying to say in my comment, obviously some peope will allways find something negative to say about comments they actually agree with just to make them selfs feel better!
if you look at statistics most people who abuse children are married man and do not consider themselves homosexuals. Generally, gays do not act like that and Im talking about gays who are not afraid of hiding their sexual preferences.
Well I removed my comment since it seams so controversial although I really didn't intend it to be (think I just used the wrong world since I was writing it so fast).
@egon It doesn't matter if they concider themeselfs gay or not, the definition of gay is being attracted to the same sex, that's it, and although 99% of gay people are normal like everyone else (including myself), men who sexualy abuse boys, are gay, since they are attracted to men, but they definitely don't represent the majority of gays, but it's important to realise that this small part of our gay community does exist., so we can do something about it, instead of ignoring the problem.
i knew it's coming, poor Dex, though i still think it's not excuse for him to treat Lucas as dirt,he should to apologize to him anyway.
And i want to know how long they gonna tease us with not knowing who gonna be a love interest for Lucas, Dex? Noud? or maybe Jack? who? they said it's gonna be one of lead actor,
Poor Dex is right, and now maybe he can begin the healing process, and as for him and Lucas, I would have to say not, but I think Jack is more Lucas' spped and I think that SL could evolve quite easily....thanks for posting
Dat is prima hoor. Vooral omdat je een link naar mijn kanaal geplaatst hebt. Ik denk dat ik er anders over zou denken als je dat niet gedaan had. ;-) Hoe meer mensen het zien, hoe beter.
eindelijk, eindelijk zegt DEx waarom
jezuus.. dat heeft lang geduurd!
MultiBloobie 2 days ago
Dex heeft HDHD:)
MultiBloobie 2 days ago
@MultiBloobie ADHD
MultiBloobie 2 days ago
Is that Luke's grandmother from As The World Turns?
Aviat92 6 months ago
@Aviat92 Yes, it's the same actress (different character obviously).
GTSTfanMark 6 months ago
@GTSTfanMark cool, you don't get to see that every day. (at least I don't)
Aviat92 6 months ago
Thanks for directing me here, Mark. This was an excellent scene. Poor Dex. I feel a little for him now... and I hope he can get past it. I will have to watch and see. I hope he can realize that Lucas is a great friend and not at all like his coach. I got a little confused when it started subtitling in dutch. I was like WAIT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND-- oh they're speaking english now. lol
lovealwaysliana 8 months ago
LUCINDAAAAAAAAA!!!
phazeorange 8 months ago 2
He sounds just like Kevin (from ATWT)
amyanda 1 year ago
its so sad that dex went through such a horrible ordeal, its no wonder the way he treats lucas, i suppose lucas is very touchy feely and everytime he does this or acts that way with dex it just brings it back to dex, though without this atmosphere and problem i couldnt see them getting along anyway, lucas is so laid back while dex is the opposite and quite uptight and self orientated. love the story line, think its brillant and love the sub's, which read brillantly , go raibh mile mhaith agat,
ilovetodreamatno3 2 years ago 2
omg, poor dex! now i understand why he kinda acts the way he does. :(
ilj007 2 years ago 2
Wow, I have to say, kudos to Holland for writing and making such complex and well-done plots, and incorporating more character-driven twists and turns. I really disliked Dex before, but seeing this, I can at least understand him better. Fifteen is still young and impressionable, and it could affect him in ways he never realized until later. *shrug* I can't see a US soap even touching this. Whether it turns out that he's gay, straight, whatever, it will make a good storyline/arc.
whitetealeaves 2 years ago 3
Humans are complex and multi-faceted. Our responses to traumatic experiences are as different and varied as we are. There is no cookie-cutter way to react to having been abused/molested. People do the best they can.
Something had to "break" Dex before he'd talk about what happened to him. That "something" happen to be Lucas and Nina.
.
And, just like Lucas has layers and IS NOT just some sexified, gay, belligerant brat, Dex IS NOT just some one-note retrograde, macho, homophobe.
Yay Show.
PlatypusRising55 2 years ago 6
i feel bad for dex's past but the writers have made me hate him so much so that, dare i say it, the reasoning for his homophobia sounded lamer than it would had they not waited so long to tell us :\ i still think that he overreacts... lucas is in no way a child molester
AvaDancer 2 years ago
Thanx voor plaatsen
Sabbyncis 2 years ago
Dex - so emotional. Great acting. Thank you.
visitor9627 2 years ago 12
I liked the discussion of wording over here....... haha .......But I am from Asia... have no say in this ... ... totally different language system
rtgtx 2 years ago
You're talking as if everybody in Asia spoke the same language.
Anyways, just like in the Netherlands, Scandinavia and France, in Indonesia "homo" is just a synonym for "gay". Not a negative word.
0stsee 2 years ago
No, I did not mean everybody in Asia......just me or maybe billions of others who do not use Roman/Latin alphabet or the likes.
rtgtx 2 years ago
Even those languages which don't use Latin alphabet still often use the word "gay".
Where do you come from in Asia?
0stsee 2 years ago
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sshuang90 2 years ago
Just when I thought there was no way for Dex to become human again, no excuse for his behaviour, this happens. Amazing writing. I thought the story was difficult to predict because Dex's character was going nowhere, I was wrong. I look forward to being wrong in the future. Go, writers, go!
warmgulfwind 2 years ago 4
De scene tussen Dex en Irene. Wow echt geweldig gedaan door Anita en Emiel
soulsista18janna 2 years ago
well... I think most of realized that something like this happened to Dex because nothing else would explain the hysteria Dex constantly launch against harmless actions by Lucas
JiminPalmSprings 2 years ago 5
you know... I really despise the word people in the Netherlands use for 'gay".... ""homo"",,, I cringe everytime I hear one of the actors use it!
JiminPalmSprings 2 years ago 3
That's what you get when languages use the same words with different meanings. ;-)
GTSTfanMark 2 years ago
I totally understand and know that but that knowledge doesn't stop me from cringing...smile.
JiminPalmSprings 2 years ago 2
I think the intent is the key.
If a homophobe screams "Fag!" it's evil. But it doesn't feel more evil if they scream "Homo!" or less evil if they scream "Gay!". Hate is evil.
I call myself a "dyke" and rarely use "lesbian" unless I'm speaking academically or to straight folks.
All my friends use the word "dyke" to refer to themselves and each other but some women just die a thousand deaths if you use that word in their presence.
I like "Homo". It's descriptive, accurate and efficient. ;)
PlatypusRising55 2 years ago 3
@GTSTfanMark I understand!
JiminPalmSprings 1 year ago
We say the same here in Norway too. Homo means gay, and it's not a bad word. Well, it can be used as a slur, but most often it's just used to say someone is gay, we say "homo", "homofil" or "homse".
homonikum 2 years ago
Same here in France: we say "gay" or "homo", and none of them is an insult.
jethypendl 2 years ago
here in germany homo is very negative - you say it when you want to hurt a person - so everytime the actors say it i remind my self ok they are dutch so its ok to say it.
tazziledevil 2 years ago
In Canada it's the same way, "homo" is a slur, but "gay" is not. Everytime Lucas says "homo" I flinch, I think he's angry. I have to remind myself it's different there.
warmgulfwind 2 years ago
Well, like I said, homo COULD be used as a slur in Norway too, but it could also be used just to say someone is gay. It depends on the context. Like "I am homo" is ok, but not to insult someone saying "f-ing homo", if you know what I mean..
homonikum 2 years ago
"homo" is not a slur, it is only when idiotic ppl use it in a negative context, ie "no homo" and also when ignorant assholes use gay as a slur ...
shortyyy22 2 years ago
In Indonesia, just like in the Netherlands, Scandinavia and France, "homo" isn't a negative word (unless one wants it to be).
It's just a synonym of "gay".
0stsee 2 years ago
I wonder if there's a good example where we in the U.S. use a word that is harmless here but offensive elsewhere
JiminPalmSprings 2 years ago 2
That's an interesting thought. I am fascinated by language, so this discussion is very interesting. I wonder if anyone can think of one...
ModernArtMasterpiece 2 years ago
@JiminPalmSprings Over here it's the most normal word. Like 'straight' we also se 'hetero'. We just say the words homosexual and heterosexual without the 'sexual' behind it ;-). Nothing weird to Dutch people at all, so I hope you understand it isn't meant bad at all :-).
Brechh 1 year ago
@JiminPalmSprings I live in the netherlands and the word homo is from homosexual which means mansexual I agree with you that the word isnt really good but it is just to say that you love man
wceend33 11 months ago
Is Nood the guy who was in Australia and came back?
ahmad123987 2 years ago 5
Noud is hotness.
jivillasenor 2 years ago 4
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ahmad123987 2 years ago
The words "gay" and "child molester" are not synonyms. A gay person is gay and a child molester is a child molester. Just when it seems that humanity takes two steps forward, you have to take us three steps back.
in2nuke 2 years ago 2
im gay u idiot, and what u said is so obvious that making the statement is what takes us three steps back, cause it doesn't need explaining. The guy who molested him is gay, and is a molester that obviously doesn't mean that being gay means ur a molester, but Dex doesn't think that that's his problem and that is what i was trying to say in my comment, obviously some peope will allways find something negative to say about comments they actually agree with just to make them selfs feel better!
ahmad123987 2 years ago 2
if you look at statistics most people who abuse children are married man and do not consider themselves homosexuals. Generally, gays do not act like that and Im talking about gays who are not afraid of hiding their sexual preferences.
egon55 2 years ago
Well I removed my comment since it seams so controversial although I really didn't intend it to be (think I just used the wrong world since I was writing it so fast).
ahmad123987 2 years ago
@egon It doesn't matter if they concider themeselfs gay or not, the definition of gay is being attracted to the same sex, that's it, and although 99% of gay people are normal like everyone else (including myself), men who sexualy abuse boys, are gay, since they are attracted to men, but they definitely don't represent the majority of gays, but it's important to realise that this small part of our gay community does exist., so we can do something about it, instead of ignoring the problem.
ahmad123987 2 years ago
i had some spoilers. but when i saw this on tv, i was like wow! poor Dex!
StrawberryGun500 2 years ago
wow! ^ ^ now where do we go from here?
thanks for your work&time Mark!
AmyriadfthINGs 2 years ago
i knew it's coming, poor Dex, though i still think it's not excuse for him to treat Lucas as dirt,he should to apologize to him anyway.
And i want to know how long they gonna tease us with not knowing who gonna be a love interest for Lucas, Dex? Noud? or maybe Jack? who? they said it's gonna be one of lead actor,
i wanna know who is it right now! hehe...
thanks for post Mark,you are gem!
GFGirl27 2 years ago 10
Poor Dex is right, and now maybe he can begin the healing process, and as for him and Lucas, I would have to say not, but I think Jack is more Lucas' spped and I think that SL could evolve quite easily....thanks for posting
cumbinow4fun 2 years ago
I just knew he'd been molested!! Poor guy, I knew there had to be a reason for him being so antsy about the touching.
simonismyhero 2 years ago 2
Hoi Mark
Ik heb je video ook op mijn kanaal gezet om je te promoten.
Als je het niet wil moet je me maar even een reactie sturen, dan haal ik het er weer van af.
Maar door de link naar je site kun je waarschijnlijk meerdere kijkers krijgen.
soapalien 2 years ago
Dat is prima hoor. Vooral omdat je een link naar mijn kanaal geplaatst hebt. Ik denk dat ik er anders over zou denken als je dat niet gedaan had. ;-) Hoe meer mensen het zien, hoe beter.
GTSTfanMark 2 years ago
Bedankt, en ja je hebt gelijk.
Het gaat om onze soaps te promoten.
Mail me maar om samen te werken. ;-)
soapalien 2 years ago
Ha. It's Luke's grandmother from ATWT.
smh3477 2 years ago 3
i know, it's so weird.. O.o
mjuklo4 2 years ago
Poor Dex :*(
Aylinbx 2 years ago 4
Wow, poor Dex. I just wanna hug him :)
soulsista18janna 2 years ago 4
OMG
087blue 2 years ago 5