I've pulled trailers with cars and trucks many times before. You can pull a trailer with a car, but you just have to drive differently and make sure your load is properly weighted. Some goes for towing with a truck really.
@Flaheat Exactly as you can see at the end of this video, it states that it is a test, and by looking at the car driving in and out of the cones it was probs doing that for a reason.
@HunterCO1 What the fuck do you mean,,, Are you stupid a trailer/ a campingTrailer* have to be pulled with a car you idiot... or how would you move it the .. danm you stupid kid
@waynerd23 Swerve to miss hitting an animal in the road... decide to take a freeway exit at the last moment... drop a hot beverage in the drivers lap... you'd be surprised at how people drive anymore.
I tow with a subcompact car in the US all the time... But I get a lot of the same comments. Yes, trucks are good for towing... Towing HEAVY loads. That caravan, as mentioned already, probably weighs about 2,000 pounds. In Europe, a VW Golf is rated to tow over 3,000 pounds. If you need a pickup to tow a 2,000 pound trailer, do you also need a tractor trailer to get your groceries home from the store? I wish we had more lightweight campers here in the US. I am in the process of buying a Sc
i can totally relate i had a 03 chevy silverado dually and my friendz and i were hunting with a huge 5th wheel toy hauler and a deer ran out in front and lets just say it was scary
CARS ARE NOT TOW VEHICLES! They never will be. Cars are for economical transportation of PEOPLE and small amounts of goods.
A PICKUP TRUCK is the correct vehicle to tow a trailer with. They are built to cope with the unique loads that a trailer puts on the tow vehicle.
Now don't give me any bullshit about how you can't afford one. A used Toyota Hilux diesel will do the job fine, and you don't have to daily drive it. Keep the car for that.
Geez over here in America 2300 dollars(Which is what 1500GBP converts to according to Google) is a level reserved for old clunkers that are far past their prime. 175,000 miles and above territory. CHEAP cars are anything below 8,000 dollars, Average is anywhere from 8K to 15K, and expensive doesn't really start until you hit 40K or so. Still...2300 USD initial purchase, 600USD/year tax...that's cheap as hell.
@TestECull Cor blimey! even more reason for you to pull with whatever car you already have! Don't forget that we also pay £1.27/ litre for diesel (5.71 a gallon !!!)
This equates to $1.98 per litre ($8.93 a gallon !!! )
@stuntcrazy8 ......So? You don't have to daily drive the 4-cyl diesel Hilux. That's why you keep the subcompact.
Geez do I have to explain every subtle nuance of owning a daily driver AND a towing vehicle? And here I thought Americans were dumber than a cinder block...
@stuntcrazy8 i feel sorry for europeans though, you guys have the highest gas prices, like you said, $8.93 a gallon. where i live regular gas is around $2.80
@trucker765 Only difference is you americans use your cheap gas properly, by feeding it to big engines ! ! !
A 2.5Litre 4/6cyl is considered large over here. Hence why we're plagued with the likes of Kia, Hyundai, vauxhall, peugeot, all of which produce cars with a maximum of 6 cyl. Whats worse is the sound and smell of diesel is becoming ever more popular!!!
@stuntcrazy8 haha, my truck has a 7.4 litre V8, twin fuel tanks, no cat converter, and dual glasspacks. It makes about 600 horsepower and gets 8 mpg, but i need the horsepower and i dont drive to far.
@trucker765 Thats the dumbest comment I've seen in a while. Nobody needs 600hp. My miserly 200hp Cummins powered 93 dodge ram is more than capable of towing up to 20 000lb if I want it to, and I can get 26mpg on average. Unless your towing in excess of 30 000lb, you don't need 600hp, and you can't tow that much on ANY light truck made in the past 40 years I figure.
Don't like tests which fail to simulate real world conditions properly. When driven and equipped properly, this combination should not be unsafe. However, in this test, driver drove very erratically, steering sharply from side-to-side, to unnaturally entice trailer to jack-knife. Further, even minimal safety equipment, such as trailer brakes, were either not installed or used. Same could be done with huge lorry (semi-truck), but that wouldn't be realistic either.
In this country it is ILLEGAL to tow a van that size with a little shit box..A van that size must be towed by something the size of a toyota landcruiser which weighs at least 2-3 tons
apparently in europe cars are 1/2 ton trucks fuckin foreign cant drive and don't know what a proper vehicle is for any job like the sprinter yeah the head room is nice but other than that they rot out and are ugly as sin
What the hell? I knew caravans were unstable but he barely moved the wheel! That's the sort of deviation you'd make if someone moved into your lane without looking, avoiding debris or something. I'm amazed at why the caravan is also allowed to stay connected to the car and push it further off course!
Although the worst thing about the caravan is the average driver. 80-ish, thick rimmed glasses, 1.3 litre Kia Rio, etc. They need better licensing, tax and MOT
@trucker765 > '.. why us Americans invented the pickup truck ..'
Because European cars are generally smaller, camper trailers built for this market often weigh much less than their American counterparts. Doubt this camper trailer weighed much more than 2000-2500lbs, which should be no great problem for the car shown in this video. I'm an American living in Europe, with experience towing campers in both areas.
@trucker765 So you sleep in you pickup truck..., real comfy.... xD Also didnt know you had kitchens and toilets in you pickup trucks..., must be really something. (for if you didnt notice..., that was sarcasm....)
@trucker765 Sorry mate it was the Australians who invented the ute/pickup truck. It was a farmers wife who wrote a letter to Ford Australia wanting something she could take to church on sunday and market on monday.
@jbsoriginality Yes, but Ford Australia is a separate but wholly owned subsidiary of the American Ford MoCo it has its own CEO, board of directors and separate product line up, the only thing they have in common is the name.
@bluetoll My sentiments exactly - America takes far too much credit for things they didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if they think they invented penicillin too.
@bluetoll Ford Australia developed the UTE which is entirely different to a Pick Up truck! The ute is based on a car/station wagon chassis with the rear passenger compartment & trunk cut away to give an open cargo bed.
A pick up truck is an engine and drivers cab mounted onto a bespoke chassis. They have been around since the 1920's - long before the Australian ute came about.
@tomburley you might want to revisit that thought... Google Ford Ranchero and Chevrolet El' Camino. Truck like cars that were made in the USA going back to the late 50's early 60's. But when it comes to trailer's If the trailer is not equipped with the proper trailer braking system integrated with an anti sway system, this is the mess you can get into easily. Always follow the towing limits of the vehicle as per the vehicle manufacturer.
@smartcarfor2 The first Australian "ute" was produced in the early 30's, and that form of vehicle wasn't introduced to the States until '57 as the Ford Ranchero. What part of that thought should he revisit?
@gogmorgoaway Thanks for the partial history lesson. Maybe you might give the names of the ute makers so that I can be even more enlightened. I'd like to see what it is you are referring to.
@smartcarfor2 1934 Ford Coupe Utility, built by Ford Australia. The first factory produced Pickup Truck was a 1925 Ford Model T, on the truck chassis, not a car base like the Australian. Five minutes of research could have gotten you both of those names...
@gogmorgoaway Good job. I read about both long before I even asked the question. Given the hugely different markets back then I presume the '34 Coupe Ut was necessary in the outback. Regardless, thanks for the schooling. One is never too old to learn a few new things. There is one thing you still might take from this and that is a better attitude. I truly sense that you want to slather this with some sort of "better than you" mentality. I simply engaged in some discussion and thats all.
@smartcarfor2 The '34 ute supposedly came about after someone wrote a letter to Ford asking for a car that would take the family to church on sunday and the pigs to market on monday, as I'm sure you probably also have found out by now.
I apologize for any attitude. I just wanted to make clear what thought tomburley should revisit and why, (and still do) as I saw nothing wrong with what he said, and it sounded like you were avoiding my question by questioning my credibility.
@gogmorgoaway I read the very same about the 34... I guess some women were very dynamic and influential back in the day. I had no intent to question credibility but wanted at least a lead on the thoughts that got you to where you were. The point was that tagging facts along the way helps. What did surprise me is that the car/ute platformed vehicle did not come to grace in the US until so much later.
@gogmorgoaway A presumption might be because in many cases the trucks were used for work and a sedan or coupe was on hand to ferry the family to such occasions as church and the like. I cant say for certain. Thanks for engaging with me.
@smartcarfor2 Yeah, I think for most people there are work vehicles and then passenger vehicles. It wasn't until later that people started using trucks for other purposes. The capacity of a truck would be too much for a car frame and suspension, but the ride of a truck wasn't exactly comfortable, so probably the compromise wasn't car-like enough for car people, but couldn't do enough for the truck people, and so the ute might have been seen as being for people who couldn't afford both.
@smartcarfor2 Or at least the manufacturers might have seen that as a likely viewpoint, so they didn't want to take the chance of a product with a bad image tarnishing their reputations, until they were certain it would catch on.
Then, during the 80's, when the utes died out in North America, small trucks were available, and it had become acceptable to drive a truck, say to church or whatever, and the ute was made redundant.
In the present market, a ute might sell for its likely higher fuel efficiency, or maybe because of its cool factor, but otherwise, I don't really see a lower, less capable vehicle replacing what I've even seen used to take a bride to a wedding...
@ianianian91 Ok! that's right This caravan may seem big but it is not very heavy. In france, the trailer or caravan must always be lighter than the towing vehicle.
@SebNormandy Which is not the case in North America. There are no legal limits on trailer-tow vehicle weight ratios In most places there's a limit to how much you can legally tow on a regular license, around 10,000 lbs total trailer weight, I think, but with the higher licence, there's no limit. So you could get a truck pulling a trailer three or more times its weight, although on a tongue setup, most pickups aren't rated for much more than twice.
@trucker765 Seriously. If you pull a big ass camper with a little ricebox, you deserve to jackknife. Either buy an RV on a truck chassis, or go buy a pickup to tow it with.
Well I am confused. If there testing this, then why are they using cars? In the time that I have been camping, I have always seen trucks pulling campers. This isnt the 40's and 50's were you could have pulled a good size camper with a car. So why would you even test it nowadays with a car? The dang camper weighs about as much as that car does!!
yeah you probly live int eh us like me, where all campers are pulled by trucks, but over in europe most campers are accually pulled by cars, one example is the Top Gear Caravan Holiday episode
It all depends what you try and use. Why use a truck if you use a car that's a V8. We had a family friend who towed one of these in a '92 Towncar. If you are gonna use a car to tow something, use a Crown vic, Grand Marquis, etc that has a powerful engine; infact V8 is what trucks use so...
That may work for a traveling trailer like this. I haven't messed with those. But..
I mainly deal with horse trailers, which must have a truck because of the weight involved. You need the correct plug for the brakes and ideally a transmission meant for towing, and a rear suspension that can take the tongue weight of the trailer.
That would be true haha. I would personally never use a car to tow anything. I was mearly saying if you used a big ass car like a crown vic/ grand marquis (which has a V8 engine; same as the F-150 trucks) you could probably pull it off. I personally never see my self driving a contraption like this. I hate seeing people in RV's who don't know how to drive them.
I say that because I saw someone towing a horse trailer with a Ford Maverick. It must have had the V8 in there, and the owner had fudged some wiring to get the brakes hooked to the trailer. It still scared me.
There are many factors involved. A truck is simply built for it. A truck has a larger transmission, and more importantly, a transmission oil cooler. A truck has much larger leaf springs and massive shock absorbers. I've also yet to see a car that has a class IV hitch... Most importantly, however, are the truck's massive brakes to stop all that weight. Also in terms of torque, the crown vic's 4.6 liter can't compete with my F-150's 5.4 liter triton.
Now that I actually think about it, I'm not sure, but even if they have a "real frame" they certainly don't have a strong frame, let alone the wheelbase for towing a long / top heavy trailer like that. Many trucks would behave the same way as this video with those driving conditions: SCREWED!
Yeah they would. Only way to get out of that is to have four wheel steering. I tow with my tracker but I have bags in the springs on the front and back and it pulls like a rock handles alright but I wouldnt be town that tandem. max for me would be 2000lbs and have trailer brakes.
4 wheel steering would help, but it IS possible to recover from that with trailer brakes. I got into a situation like this with my 1996 Nissan Maxima and my 25 Foot Fleetwood Travel Trailer one time but I was able to prevent jacknifing by making use of my trailer brake manual override. With a car that lightweight the key is to watch your speed to prevent this in the first place. While towing my 25 footer with my Maxima I never exceed 55 MPH. when I lost it I was goin 70. Lesson learned!
Nothing is impossible. But never go over the tongue weight by more then 10% or even at all..
I really wouldn't be towing anything 25ft long in a maxima unless I lived in a desert with no hills.. Manual or automatic you will end up burning your clutch or clutch plates.
Found out the hard way. Tranny went, but got it rebuilt and got huge cooler bigger than dad's SUV. Fixed my O/D off button (shouldnt tow without that anyway). As far as the tongue weight, got the frame reinforced at the frame shop and a class 4 installed & I use a weight distributing dual stabilizer hitch. But you are right, a car with no mods for towing would have some huge problems as I already found out the hard way.
Wasted money I say, Trucks are the sensible, versitile, and pacticle vehicle for any family, you can tow, haul, go offroad, have exteroir bed space for dirty loads, like lawn mowers. Just all around, all american vehicle.
a stock automobile with a good class 3 or 4 hitch that has a standard shift tranny needs no further mods to tow. if you want to tow with an automatic, u better have a good cooler though. and its not a real good idea to load up your 3 225lb kids, 2 275lb parents and 2 300lb grandparents and tow a 3500lb caravan with a 4 cylinder automatic renault. lol
My maxima has a transmission oil cooler, I had it installed, it is huge and my transmission oil never gets too hot (I have a gauge for that), and I also had a frame shop custom make and install a class 3 to 4 range hitch directly on the frame. My electric brakes do me well to stop my trailer and I have a 3.0 liter engine but I am in no hurry so I dont mind accelerating a little slower. (again, if this displays in the wrong place, it is a reply to an older comment.)
The subframe that connects to the main stucture in 2 places near the rear struts and also to 2 places on the back bumper (for what the bumper is worth). They said this hitch is going nowhere and the car would spin a tire or rare up in the front end before that would ever break off.
This plug for the brakes you speak of can easily be installed on a car too, mine has one for my camper. (By the way, if this displays in the wrong place, please note it is a reply to an older comment and may display at the front of the comments incorrectly)
Even in america, some (but very few) people just prefer a specific car, even for towing. For example, here in North Carolina, I prefer using my 1996 Maxima to tow my 25 foot camper and my lawnmower trailer.
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Tefovo66 3 days ago
This is why you don't pull trailers with your fucking family sedan. It's called a dodge.
POPCORN454545 1 month ago
I've pulled trailers with cars and trucks many times before. You can pull a trailer with a car, but you just have to drive differently and make sure your load is properly weighted. Some goes for towing with a truck really.
Flaheat 2 months ago
@Flaheat Exactly as you can see at the end of this video, it states that it is a test, and by looking at the car driving in and out of the cones it was probs doing that for a reason.
ur2cool1001 2 months ago
best job in the world?
MrLunchladyarms 3 months ago
Pick-ups aren't "farm tools law" detaxed in Europa...
dionysos46 4 months ago
apparently cars are great for towing
islandoffroadracing 5 months ago
its a volvo?
RnBciO 5 months ago
What kind of fucking idiot pulls a trailer with a car?
HunterCO1 6 months ago
@HunterCO1 What the fuck do you mean,,, Are you stupid a trailer/ a campingTrailer* have to be pulled with a car you idiot... or how would you move it the .. danm you stupid kid
JRBugge 4 months ago
@JRBugge I meant exactly what I said you fucking moron! In my world we use a fucking truck you fucking jackass!
HunterCO1 4 months ago
:-(
matthias1973 6 months ago
id take that!
numbr2luder 6 months ago
what kind of jack ass would drive like that
waynerd23 7 months ago
@waynerd23 Swerve to miss hitting an animal in the road... decide to take a freeway exit at the last moment... drop a hot beverage in the drivers lap... you'd be surprised at how people drive anymore.
123MrBurg 7 months ago
thats why you shall drive straight
jonnielahti 7 months ago 2
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GORRRILLA 8 months ago
I find that sexual.
iloveGTA123 8 months ago
that was done intentionally
chamblizi 9 months ago
We are going on a summer holiday... oh no we aren't... we are going to casualty.
jmbeventphotography 9 months ago
car : you aint getting me !!!
caravan : oooooh yes i am ^^
car : well see about that!!!
caravan : gotcha ^^
car : asshole :(
caravan : LOL.
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Soulshiner1 10 months ago
amazing the trailer didn't flip
MotoXracer450 11 months ago
I'm surprised the trailer didn't flip.
auaiao9 11 months ago
caravan 1 car 0
thecanadainredneck53 11 months ago
Your All fuckin Thick Commentiong on Here, Its a test It was Jacknifed on purpose.
spinaway 11 months ago
Needs a sway eliminating hitch like found here... search ProPride 3P here on YouTube.
MyRVTalk 1 year ago
If the driver could drive...............
checkshalt 1 year ago 2
I COULDA DONE BETT'R & GNAT.
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Fudgecake118 1 year ago 2
@Fudgecake118 True! hahahahahahaha!
firefox39693 1 year ago
Stupid Gypsy was goin' too feckin' quick.
widerthanone 1 year ago
In most european countries it's illegal to tow caravan that is heavier than car... (in this case caravan is heavier about 500 kg!).
Rafal28waw 1 year ago
I tow with a subcompact car in the US all the time... But I get a lot of the same comments. Yes, trucks are good for towing... Towing HEAVY loads. That caravan, as mentioned already, probably weighs about 2,000 pounds. In Europe, a VW Golf is rated to tow over 3,000 pounds. If you need a pickup to tow a 2,000 pound trailer, do you also need a tractor trailer to get your groceries home from the store? I wish we had more lightweight campers here in the US. I am in the process of buying a Sc
jmcbrew 1 year ago
@jmcbrew Get a truck before you get killed when someone rear ends that thing.
TestECull 1 year ago
i can totally relate i had a 03 chevy silverado dually and my friendz and i were hunting with a huge 5th wheel toy hauler and a deer ran out in front and lets just say it was scary
TheCoollikdat 1 year ago
Europeans, listen up. I'm only saying this once.
CARS ARE NOT TOW VEHICLES! They never will be. Cars are for economical transportation of PEOPLE and small amounts of goods.
A PICKUP TRUCK is the correct vehicle to tow a trailer with. They are built to cope with the unique loads that a trailer puts on the tow vehicle.
Now don't give me any bullshit about how you can't afford one. A used Toyota Hilux diesel will do the job fine, and you don't have to daily drive it. Keep the car for that.
TestECull 1 year ago
@TestECull only saying it once? well i think the "cant afford" excuse is a valid one over here in the UK.
A toyota hilux pickup - Will cost about...1200-1500pounds for a decent one.
Now the hilux is classed as a 4x4, so it immediately gets stung with £400 tax PER YEAR!
"keeping a car for that purpose, at that price, is just not viable, which is why many use standard saloon cars.
stuntcrazy8 1 year ago
@stuntcrazy8 1200-1500 pounds? That's expensive?
Geez over here in America 2300 dollars(Which is what 1500GBP converts to according to Google) is a level reserved for old clunkers that are far past their prime. 175,000 miles and above territory. CHEAP cars are anything below 8,000 dollars, Average is anywhere from 8K to 15K, and expensive doesn't really start until you hit 40K or so. Still...2300 USD initial purchase, 600USD/year tax...that's cheap as hell.
TestECull 1 year ago
@TestECull Cor blimey! even more reason for you to pull with whatever car you already have! Don't forget that we also pay £1.27/ litre for diesel (5.71 a gallon !!!)
This equates to $1.98 per litre ($8.93 a gallon !!! )
stuntcrazy8 1 year ago
@stuntcrazy8 ......So? You don't have to daily drive the 4-cyl diesel Hilux. That's why you keep the subcompact.
Geez do I have to explain every subtle nuance of owning a daily driver AND a towing vehicle? And here I thought Americans were dumber than a cinder block...
TestECull 1 year ago
@stuntcrazy8 i feel sorry for europeans though, you guys have the highest gas prices, like you said, $8.93 a gallon. where i live regular gas is around $2.80
trucker765 1 year ago
@trucker765 Only difference is you americans use your cheap gas properly, by feeding it to big engines ! ! !
A 2.5Litre 4/6cyl is considered large over here. Hence why we're plagued with the likes of Kia, Hyundai, vauxhall, peugeot, all of which produce cars with a maximum of 6 cyl. Whats worse is the sound and smell of diesel is becoming ever more popular!!!
stuntcrazy8 1 year ago
@stuntcrazy8 haha, my truck has a 7.4 litre V8, twin fuel tanks, no cat converter, and dual glasspacks. It makes about 600 horsepower and gets 8 mpg, but i need the horsepower and i dont drive to far.
trucker765 1 year ago
@trucker765 Crikey! sounds fun!
my civic has a 1.6 litre 4cylinder engine, single fuel tank, and one stainless exhaust.
puts down about 170hp and gives me about 40-45mph as long as i dont go past the magic 4500RPM!
damn id kill for that truck though! u mean glasspacks as in cherrybomb?
stick a vid up!!!
stuntcrazy8 1 year ago
@trucker765 meant MPG, not Mph.
although our british gallons are 4.5 litres, as opposed to your 3.8.
so im guessing about 34-38mpg in american gallons.
stuntcrazy8 1 year ago
@trucker765 Thats the dumbest comment I've seen in a while. Nobody needs 600hp. My miserly 200hp Cummins powered 93 dodge ram is more than capable of towing up to 20 000lb if I want it to, and I can get 26mpg on average. Unless your towing in excess of 30 000lb, you don't need 600hp, and you can't tow that much on ANY light truck made in the past 40 years I figure.
85rotarypower 1 year ago 4
@trucker765 thats the gayest mpg ever 8 lol fag truck
jadum1rollin1fresh 1 year ago
@trucker765 UPDATE sold that truck, now im getting a 78 chevy with an 8.0 litre cadilac engine!!!!!
trucker765 10 months ago
@stuntcrazy8 And you need space to keep it in the first place...
04smallmj 1 year ago
in soviet Russia, the caravan toes you. :)
PetrolHeadGav 1 year ago
@PetrolHeadGav Why is it the Opposite In Soviet Russia?
TheSoccerGoalkeeper 1 year ago
@TheSoccerGoalkeeper It's a meme, dude.
TestECull 1 year ago
@PetrolHeadGav lol Win!
curtis133 1 year ago
and in the slolom test drive # 73 scored a... never mind
DudeWithaPage 1 year ago
Don't like tests which fail to simulate real world conditions properly. When driven and equipped properly, this combination should not be unsafe. However, in this test, driver drove very erratically, steering sharply from side-to-side, to unnaturally entice trailer to jack-knife. Further, even minimal safety equipment, such as trailer brakes, were either not installed or used. Same could be done with huge lorry (semi-truck), but that wouldn't be realistic either.
stewartx5 1 year ago
@stewartx5 I agree, he had to work pretty hard to lose it.
reptile411 1 year ago
In this country it is ILLEGAL to tow a van that size with a little shit box..A van that size must be towed by something the size of a toyota landcruiser which weighs at least 2-3 tons
boofheadrules 1 year ago
@boofheadrules if your talking about america no its not.
slapoutz 1 year ago
@slapoutz Your kidding!! I'm talking about Australia. We have very strict towing laws here.
boofheadrules 1 year ago
@boofheadrules ok didnt know you were from australia, you dont have to get mad
slapoutz 1 year ago
apparently in europe cars are 1/2 ton trucks fuckin foreign cant drive and don't know what a proper vehicle is for any job like the sprinter yeah the head room is nice but other than that they rot out and are ugly as sin
durakingdiesel 1 year ago
What the hell? I knew caravans were unstable but he barely moved the wheel! That's the sort of deviation you'd make if someone moved into your lane without looking, avoiding debris or something. I'm amazed at why the caravan is also allowed to stay connected to the car and push it further off course!
Although the worst thing about the caravan is the average driver. 80-ish, thick rimmed glasses, 1.3 litre Kia Rio, etc. They need better licensing, tax and MOT
deathstardisco 1 year ago
@deathstardisco " I'm amazed at why the caravan is also allowed to stay connected to the car and push it further off course!"
well. think about it. what is more dangerous?
a caravan pushing a car sideways and then stopping because of the car.
or a caravan pushing a car sideways and then breaking of to steam along on its own. ad a shallow downhill road and your al set for total disaster.
scettzvill 1 year ago
@scettzvill If a trailer is disconnected, it will pull out the safety cord and its own brakes will apply
deathstardisco 1 year ago
Thats almost happens all the time when I pulling my trailer down hill at 100 mph, FREAKS me out man!
firjjm 1 year ago 2
That almost happened to me in trafic when the snow suddenly came falling. Scary!
tsopuaifa 1 year ago
that was fucking shit arsehols
MultiMistro 1 year ago
Not unstable, that driver had to work at it to get it to jack-knife.
wingnut99jb 1 year ago 17
I'm sorry but anyone who attempts to pull a tandem axle with a little economy car deserves to get in an accident 0_0
nouseforausername794 1 year ago
this trailer is a too heavy and tall,,,
that is cause out of control
bestamerica 1 year ago
the thing you need is the weight from the caravan on the car !!
now, almost all the weight is on the wheels of the caravan and not much on the car, the car is just pulling
you need much more weight on the car so that the car carries and pulls the caravan
you can get this when you put the axle more to the back (or buy one with the axle more to the back) !!!
jan585 1 year ago
@trucker765 lol
oooohsnap101 1 year ago
The problem is the tow vehicle is too light in weight. My truck weighs 6500 lbs and my trailer is 6000.
tractorfixr 1 year ago
HAHAHA
Video85Man 2 years ago
What do I need to do to become a testdriver to these things? Looks pretty dangerous.
kanervatie 2 years ago
this is why us Americans invented the pickup truck.
trucker765 2 years ago 82
moron
johanj81 2 years ago
@trucker765 > '.. why us Americans invented the pickup truck ..'
Because European cars are generally smaller, camper trailers built for this market often weigh much less than their American counterparts. Doubt this camper trailer weighed much more than 2000-2500lbs, which should be no great problem for the car shown in this video. I'm an American living in Europe, with experience towing campers in both areas.
stewartx5 1 year ago
@trucker765 So you sleep in you pickup truck..., real comfy.... xD Also didnt know you had kitchens and toilets in you pickup trucks..., must be really something. (for if you didnt notice..., that was sarcasm....)
Raikara 1 year ago
@Raikara no we sleep in the trailer and fuck in the pickup truck, cuz ladies love big blocks, not 4 cylinders
trucker765 1 year ago
@trucker765 damn right
viperdude400ltd 1 year ago
@trucker765 This is why in the UK we have antisnake devices and a speed limit
canthaguild 1 year ago
@trucker765 ...so that the crash gets even bigger and kills loads of people? or what point are you trying to make i don' get it.
picinomundo 1 year ago
@trucker765 Sorry mate it was the Australians who invented the ute/pickup truck. It was a farmers wife who wrote a letter to Ford Australia wanting something she could take to church on sunday and market on monday.
bluetoll 1 year ago 17
@bluetoll exactly,Ford is an American brand is it not?
jbsoriginality 1 year ago
@jbsoriginality Yes, but Ford Australia is a separate but wholly owned subsidiary of the American Ford MoCo it has its own CEO, board of directors and separate product line up, the only thing they have in common is the name.
bluetoll 1 year ago
@bluetoll My sentiments exactly - America takes far too much credit for things they didn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if they think they invented penicillin too.
Foxtrot369 1 year ago
@bluetoll Ford Australia developed the UTE which is entirely different to a Pick Up truck! The ute is based on a car/station wagon chassis with the rear passenger compartment & trunk cut away to give an open cargo bed.
A pick up truck is an engine and drivers cab mounted onto a bespoke chassis. They have been around since the 1920's - long before the Australian ute came about.
tomburley 1 year ago
@tomburley you might want to revisit that thought... Google Ford Ranchero and Chevrolet El' Camino. Truck like cars that were made in the USA going back to the late 50's early 60's. But when it comes to trailer's If the trailer is not equipped with the proper trailer braking system integrated with an anti sway system, this is the mess you can get into easily. Always follow the towing limits of the vehicle as per the vehicle manufacturer.
smartcarfor2 11 months ago
@smartcarfor2 The first Australian "ute" was produced in the early 30's, and that form of vehicle wasn't introduced to the States until '57 as the Ford Ranchero. What part of that thought should he revisit?
gogmorgoaway 11 months ago
@gogmorgoaway Thanks for the partial history lesson. Maybe you might give the names of the ute makers so that I can be even more enlightened. I'd like to see what it is you are referring to.
smartcarfor2 11 months ago
@smartcarfor2 1934 Ford Coupe Utility, built by Ford Australia. The first factory produced Pickup Truck was a 1925 Ford Model T, on the truck chassis, not a car base like the Australian. Five minutes of research could have gotten you both of those names...
gogmorgoaway 11 months ago
@gogmorgoaway Good job. I read about both long before I even asked the question. Given the hugely different markets back then I presume the '34 Coupe Ut was necessary in the outback. Regardless, thanks for the schooling. One is never too old to learn a few new things. There is one thing you still might take from this and that is a better attitude. I truly sense that you want to slather this with some sort of "better than you" mentality. I simply engaged in some discussion and thats all.
smartcarfor2 11 months ago
@smartcarfor2 The '34 ute supposedly came about after someone wrote a letter to Ford asking for a car that would take the family to church on sunday and the pigs to market on monday, as I'm sure you probably also have found out by now.
I apologize for any attitude. I just wanted to make clear what thought tomburley should revisit and why, (and still do) as I saw nothing wrong with what he said, and it sounded like you were avoiding my question by questioning my credibility.
gogmorgoaway 11 months ago
@gogmorgoaway I read the very same about the 34... I guess some women were very dynamic and influential back in the day. I had no intent to question credibility but wanted at least a lead on the thoughts that got you to where you were. The point was that tagging facts along the way helps. What did surprise me is that the car/ute platformed vehicle did not come to grace in the US until so much later.
smartcarfor2 11 months ago
@gogmorgoaway A presumption might be because in many cases the trucks were used for work and a sedan or coupe was on hand to ferry the family to such occasions as church and the like. I cant say for certain. Thanks for engaging with me.
smartcarfor2 11 months ago
@smartcarfor2 Yeah, I think for most people there are work vehicles and then passenger vehicles. It wasn't until later that people started using trucks for other purposes. The capacity of a truck would be too much for a car frame and suspension, but the ride of a truck wasn't exactly comfortable, so probably the compromise wasn't car-like enough for car people, but couldn't do enough for the truck people, and so the ute might have been seen as being for people who couldn't afford both.
gogmorgoaway 11 months ago
@smartcarfor2 Or at least the manufacturers might have seen that as a likely viewpoint, so they didn't want to take the chance of a product with a bad image tarnishing their reputations, until they were certain it would catch on.
Then, during the 80's, when the utes died out in North America, small trucks were available, and it had become acceptable to drive a truck, say to church or whatever, and the ute was made redundant.
gogmorgoaway 11 months ago
@smartcarfor2 At least that's my take on it.
In the present market, a ute might sell for its likely higher fuel efficiency, or maybe because of its cool factor, but otherwise, I don't really see a lower, less capable vehicle replacing what I've even seen used to take a bride to a wedding...
gogmorgoaway 11 months ago
@bluetoll you got that off top gear =p
ps3dethman1 2 months ago
@trucker765 you're wrong.... you can do the same with a pick up truck and gooseneck trailer...
SebNormandy 11 months ago
@SebNormandy i don't think thats what he is saying, in north america you would never see a car towing a trailer that big, trucks are built to do that
ianianian91 11 months ago
@ianianian91 Ok! that's right This caravan may seem big but it is not very heavy. In france, the trailer or caravan must always be lighter than the towing vehicle.
SebNormandy 11 months ago
@SebNormandy Which is not the case in North America. There are no legal limits on trailer-tow vehicle weight ratios In most places there's a limit to how much you can legally tow on a regular license, around 10,000 lbs total trailer weight, I think, but with the higher licence, there's no limit. So you could get a truck pulling a trailer three or more times its weight, although on a tongue setup, most pickups aren't rated for much more than twice.
gogmorgoaway 11 months ago
@gogmorgoaway ok! Thanks for the info ;)
SebNormandy 11 months ago
@trucker765 you americans sleep in a pick up truck ?
adyclipper 10 months ago
@trucker765 Seriously. If you pull a big ass camper with a little ricebox, you deserve to jackknife. Either buy an RV on a truck chassis, or go buy a pickup to tow it with.
mysock351W 10 months ago
@mysock351W that's dumb
MovingUpp 7 months ago
@trucker765
in pickup you don't have a "little home" toilet,table,chair,bed .........
Psychopathe24 8 months ago
@trucker765 australians invented the pickup...
04mmurkett 8 months ago
@04mmurkett We invented the pickup in 1925. Australia didn't make one until 1934 and it was on a car chassis.
gcrebel2008 7 months ago
@trucker765 yeah that is what i said lol but people on the other side of the pond dont understand the purpuse of the pickup
Richierich1285 7 months ago
@trucker765 lier
ovillium 7 months ago
Caravan gets revenge on small car. XD
Neonspinnazz30 2 years ago 29
@Neonspinnazz30 More like, Caravan Butt-Rapes unsuspecting vehicle.
FlemNmzzzz 1 year ago
wtf
MrZacstar 2 years ago 4
He should have kept his foot in it.
mgospeed31 2 years ago
Well I am confused. If there testing this, then why are they using cars? In the time that I have been camping, I have always seen trucks pulling campers. This isnt the 40's and 50's were you could have pulled a good size camper with a car. So why would you even test it nowadays with a car? The dang camper weighs about as much as that car does!!
dj722000 2 years ago
yeah you probly live int eh us like me, where all campers are pulled by trucks, but over in europe most campers are accually pulled by cars, one example is the Top Gear Caravan Holiday episode
Pacerace100 2 years ago
FAIL
tittytwister5251 2 years ago
That wasn't a light car either, eh..
TheLaughingTimes 2 years ago
Best cars for towing ;Chevy Caprices.
tamapalagi 2 years ago
Best cars ever; Chevy Caprices.
andben 2 years ago
Lesson here, cars are not designed for towing, period. That is a job for a truck.
UGLandrum 2 years ago
Some cars are designed for towing but others not
Josephtube666 2 years ago
he made it do that LOL
planedestroyer94 3 years ago
thats the point......did you not read the description?
Pacerace100 2 years ago
thats a prity big trailer for that small car
vivitar45 3 years ago
so obvious
the guy here is driving like a American teen
how could anyone not get it
american teens are maniacs everyone knows that
smartestinUSA 3 years ago 4
wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow
smartestinUSA 3 years ago
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wow that must be a american teen to drive like a thoughtless caess maniac that is so self centered and cares only about himself
smartestinUSA 3 years ago
Lol was a test you cockmuncing dicksucker.
WTCHME 3 years ago 3
ok you vicious buly I did not know that but I did know that but did not not that but I knew that
smartestinUSA 3 years ago
what the hell you are speak a bout ?
johntaheri 3 years ago
skid
MrSpike13 2 years ago
yeah, a "Hobby" caravan like this won't even go wrong... not even for this insane driver...
knaus560 3 years ago
my profile isnt working
blacdevil4041 3 years ago
he didnt even make it to the first cone lol
xxxxROBOCOPxxxx 3 years ago
Well kids, we're here!!
tomcatfranks 3 years ago 4
LOL
whothef 3 years ago
out*
gundiboy23 3 years ago
would they trying to do that in purpose, cause the car was in fact pretty stable only when it "looked like" they force it to go our of control.
gundiboy23 3 years ago
che bidoni...grossi, pesanti e pericolosi!!
spiaggio 3 years ago
the car got owned :)
thevideoguy89 3 years ago
I'll take my Dodge Ram pickup for that task. Truck are made for towing, little cars are made to go to the store for a 6 pack.
formerice 3 years ago
That was deliberate, that was not snaking.
JohnGBUK 3 years ago
Its funny, it looked as he had an awfully hard time 'trying' to lose control
debaucheryBotched 3 years ago 2
I've seen people in the US try to tow things with an undersized/underpowered vehicle. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Rent or borrow a truck, for heaven's sake.
SDChick 4 years ago 4
It all depends what you try and use. Why use a truck if you use a car that's a V8. We had a family friend who towed one of these in a '92 Towncar. If you are gonna use a car to tow something, use a Crown vic, Grand Marquis, etc that has a powerful engine; infact V8 is what trucks use so...
mkgamesdotnet 3 years ago
That may work for a traveling trailer like this. I haven't messed with those. But..
I mainly deal with horse trailers, which must have a truck because of the weight involved. You need the correct plug for the brakes and ideally a transmission meant for towing, and a rear suspension that can take the tongue weight of the trailer.
SDChick 3 years ago
That would be true haha. I would personally never use a car to tow anything. I was mearly saying if you used a big ass car like a crown vic/ grand marquis (which has a V8 engine; same as the F-150 trucks) you could probably pull it off. I personally never see my self driving a contraption like this. I hate seeing people in RV's who don't know how to drive them.
mkgamesdotnet 3 years ago
I say that because I saw someone towing a horse trailer with a Ford Maverick. It must have had the V8 in there, and the owner had fudged some wiring to get the brakes hooked to the trailer. It still scared me.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should!
SDChick 3 years ago
I guess agreed. Something like that needs not just the engine, but the transmission of a truck.
mkgamesdotnet 3 years ago
There are many factors involved. A truck is simply built for it. A truck has a larger transmission, and more importantly, a transmission oil cooler. A truck has much larger leaf springs and massive shock absorbers. I've also yet to see a car that has a class IV hitch... Most importantly, however, are the truck's massive brakes to stop all that weight. Also in terms of torque, the crown vic's 4.6 liter can't compete with my F-150's 5.4 liter triton.
mikesiller70 3 years ago
Whats the point in talking like that on the inernet? Nerd
samsungsix 3 years ago 3
You're missing another big detail... A truck has a FRAME!
weavsworld 3 years ago
Crown Vics arnt unibody are they?
DieselHusky 3 years ago
Now that I actually think about it, I'm not sure, but even if they have a "real frame" they certainly don't have a strong frame, let alone the wheelbase for towing a long / top heavy trailer like that. Many trucks would behave the same way as this video with those driving conditions: SCREWED!
weavsworld 3 years ago
Yeah they would. Only way to get out of that is to have four wheel steering. I tow with my tracker but I have bags in the springs on the front and back and it pulls like a rock handles alright but I wouldnt be town that tandem. max for me would be 2000lbs and have trailer brakes.
DieselHusky 3 years ago
4 wheel steering would help, but it IS possible to recover from that with trailer brakes. I got into a situation like this with my 1996 Nissan Maxima and my 25 Foot Fleetwood Travel Trailer one time but I was able to prevent jacknifing by making use of my trailer brake manual override. With a car that lightweight the key is to watch your speed to prevent this in the first place. While towing my 25 footer with my Maxima I never exceed 55 MPH. when I lost it I was goin 70. Lesson learned!
txe5502 2 years ago
Nothing is impossible. But never go over the tongue weight by more then 10% or even at all..
I really wouldn't be towing anything 25ft long in a maxima unless I lived in a desert with no hills.. Manual or automatic you will end up burning your clutch or clutch plates.
DieselHusky 2 years ago
Found out the hard way. Tranny went, but got it rebuilt and got huge cooler bigger than dad's SUV. Fixed my O/D off button (shouldnt tow without that anyway). As far as the tongue weight, got the frame reinforced at the frame shop and a class 4 installed & I use a weight distributing dual stabilizer hitch. But you are right, a car with no mods for towing would have some huge problems as I already found out the hard way.
txe5502 2 years ago
Wasted money I say, Trucks are the sensible, versitile, and pacticle vehicle for any family, you can tow, haul, go offroad, have exteroir bed space for dirty loads, like lawn mowers. Just all around, all american vehicle.
UGLandrum 2 years ago
a stock automobile with a good class 3 or 4 hitch that has a standard shift tranny needs no further mods to tow. if you want to tow with an automatic, u better have a good cooler though. and its not a real good idea to load up your 3 225lb kids, 2 275lb parents and 2 300lb grandparents and tow a 3500lb caravan with a 4 cylinder automatic renault. lol
oipbhakeld 2 years ago
Bro, you need a truck.
indiejeep 2 years ago
Yep, thats what they tell me.
txe5502 2 years ago
There's no need for a truck to tow a simple caravan. Load it properly, drive nicely and you'll be fine.
tompaah7503 2 years ago 6
as long as your 5.4 doesnt shoot out its spark plugs.. The tritons were known for this.
DieselHusky 3 years ago
My maxima has a transmission oil cooler, I had it installed, it is huge and my transmission oil never gets too hot (I have a gauge for that), and I also had a frame shop custom make and install a class 3 to 4 range hitch directly on the frame. My electric brakes do me well to stop my trailer and I have a 3.0 liter engine but I am in no hurry so I dont mind accelerating a little slower. (again, if this displays in the wrong place, it is a reply to an older comment.)
txe5502 2 years ago
what frame did they connect it to on a unibody car? the rear axle assembly?
gizthegizzygizmo 2 years ago 5
The subframe that connects to the main stucture in 2 places near the rear struts and also to 2 places on the back bumper (for what the bumper is worth). They said this hitch is going nowhere and the car would spin a tire or rare up in the front end before that would ever break off.
txe5502 2 years ago
This plug for the brakes you speak of can easily be installed on a car too, mine has one for my camper. (By the way, if this displays in the wrong place, please note it is a reply to an older comment and may display at the front of the comments incorrectly)
txe5502 2 years ago
do people actually try towing like this? i understand popup trailers on sedans but a full size?
gizthegizzygizmo 4 years ago 3
Come to anywhere in Europe and see what we tow with. This rig isn't an unusual sight on our roads-though it IS bigger than most.
Weliveinorwells1984 4 years ago 3
Even in america, some (but very few) people just prefer a specific car, even for towing. For example, here in North Carolina, I prefer using my 1996 Maxima to tow my 25 foot camper and my lawnmower trailer.
txe5502 2 years ago