“The injection of this grey-hound blood into our Doberman breed can be approved to the extent that it reconstituted the breed’s sharpness,which suffered a sever setback from the admixture with the blood of the gentle Manchester Terrier"
She then went on in 1910 to produce two prominent offspring,a red male named Roland vd Haide and a black female anmed Sybille v Langen, Sybille had the look of a Greyhound with the lacking under-jaw. Philipp Gruenig, a German soldier, Doberman breeder, judge, and author of the 1939 book The Doberman Pinscher, had this to say
@strych9lover Where do you get the info that English Greyhounds were straight crossed in??? Would like to see any proof of that for our research. Thank you.
@mslvrfx You can find actual photos online of the product of this cross, "Further Refinement of the Doberman Pinscher- Before the Doberman breed was formalized there where many, stud books and they were not well kept. In 1908 a black female appeared in the books. Her name was Stella and she was whelped in Ried of the province of Hessia in Germany. Stella was the product of a black English Greyhound sire and a black Doberman dam.
@strych9lover I looked this up on Dobequest and Doberman Review. And the 2 pedigree sights do not agree on the Dam of Stella.... Why??? Which one is true?? and in all of the beginning dogs nothing is recorded as to the breed...
1:21 the dobermans looked like rottweilers
MrBroski619 1 month ago
@MrBroski619 . Yes some do. The Rottie is one of the breeds used in the making of the doberman breed.
mslvrfx 2 weeks ago
“The injection of this grey-hound blood into our Doberman breed can be approved to the extent that it reconstituted the breed’s sharpness,which suffered a sever setback from the admixture with the blood of the gentle Manchester Terrier"
strych9lover 4 months ago
She then went on in 1910 to produce two prominent offspring,a red male named Roland vd Haide and a black female anmed Sybille v Langen, Sybille had the look of a Greyhound with the lacking under-jaw. Philipp Gruenig, a German soldier, Doberman breeder, judge, and author of the 1939 book The Doberman Pinscher, had this to say
strych9lover 4 months ago
Wonderful historical journey. All with the standard Dock and Crop; as it should be.
LOKISlog7 7 months ago 2
What is the song name?
XMW2vidzzzxX 10 months ago
they seemed to be lower and more squat
punchupatawedding79 1 year ago
They really started out looking like the Beauceron until black English Greyhounds were straight crossed in.
strych9lover 2 years ago
@strych9lover Where do you get the info that English Greyhounds were straight crossed in??? Would like to see any proof of that for our research. Thank you.
mslvrfx 4 months ago
@mslvrfx You can find actual photos online of the product of this cross, "Further Refinement of the Doberman Pinscher- Before the Doberman breed was formalized there where many, stud books and they were not well kept. In 1908 a black female appeared in the books. Her name was Stella and she was whelped in Ried of the province of Hessia in Germany. Stella was the product of a black English Greyhound sire and a black Doberman dam.
strych9lover 4 months ago
@strych9lover In all my research I have not run across this. Could you tell me what to
look for or send me a link to the info. I know there is speculation of the
different breeds but I never found anything giving a name or date. The black
female was she solid black no marking?? All the old pictures I have found
some look like they had no markings but in the old black and whites is so
hard to tell. Was the Grey hound a solid black? I know nothing about
greyhounds.
mslvrfx 4 months ago
@strych9lover I looked this up on Dobequest and Doberman Review. And the 2 pedigree sights do not agree on the Dam of Stella.... Why??? Which one is true?? and in all of the beginning dogs nothing is recorded as to the breed...
mslvrfx 4 months ago
Its amazing to see how much the breed has changed since the 1890's. and how far they have come since then.
kalexte 3 years ago