What exactly does "Blaming disney" entail? It's very arbitrary and unproductive. Disney, like any company, has its flaws and it's a large corporation. Execs have different priorities from animators.
There are sources which acknowledge that there was Kimba inspiration (I believe it was a quote from Roy E. Disney) and some Disney animators who acknowledge the inspiration.
So yes, I agree that Disney should give its credit.
People if Disney was stealing stuff from kimba to make the lion king than why were they at one point going to try to make a kimba movie with the animators. The plan fell through but they were planning it before the lion king.
Everything can use a makeover.. and if(use that word lightly) disney did use kimba as inspiration or what ever you want to call it, then they should of gave them credit. But personaly, since i grew up with the lion king, i like it far more than kimba. But kimba is bad or anything :3
@Darkdog it was the 1960s you idiot and the idea maybe way before.too many to be a coincident and disney are bloodsucking hypocrites and thank god for dreamworks and pixar
@canuck21 LOL that's where you're wrong honey. disney would be nothing without pixar and broadway and hans christian anderson. please get a history check. pixar is an independent company before disney...o and u know steve jobs was one of the head there?
@lum2ina What are you, 12 years old?!? Why do I have to get a history check? Did I say that Disney came up with Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty or Pinocchio? Most people know that those are classics written centuries ago. You're not unveiling anything new pal.
I am also not wrong when I say that Disney owns Pixar because it DOES. Disney bought Pixar in 2006. Yes, I know that Steve Jobs used to own Pixar. I also know that he bought it from George Lucas.
@canuck21 pixar was built in the late 80s and already running in 90s. and if you're talking about today they are releasing themselves from disney. and you know what movie critics credited "nothing's better than pixar's" (without crediting disney).
have you ever seen how disney pushed their workers in production, pixar-disney even stole the idea of presto, from a graduate who's looking for a job. THAT;S WHY PIXAR EMPLOYEE MOVED TO DREAMWORKS. dont just check ur sources in wikipedia
@lum2ina Listen. I don't know what's your freaking problem is. I don't know how many times do I have to say this, but I never said that Disney was original. Pixar is great and all but at the end of the day, Disney owns Pixar and that's that. I don't understand why you're trying so hard. I'm not pro Disney or anything, I just stated a fact. Yet again, you're forcing too much. Go take a pill and chill. Oh and BTW, DreamWorks Animation sucks.
@lum2ina You think you know so much, but what you know about Disney and Pixar is common knowledge; nothing to brag about. You wrote that I was wrong and went on and on, but for what? All I said was Disney owns Pixar and that's a FACT.
I heard from one of my teachers that if you change something at least 30% then copyright doesnt matter... Isnt changing the color and names and probably plot at least 30%?
here is the deal: samba is hamlet and kimba is a legendary white lion that brought anime to europe. i like both kimba the white lion and the lion king though i like kimba better since he goes through a whole lot more than simba and grows differently. watch the 1989 series of kimba and you will see what i mean. the 1989 series has a darker story but its really good. and i'm not talking about the dub. simba's story is more like hamlet but then with a lion. so yeah
To clarify my last comment, yes of course lion king is better because its 35 years or so later and it has the budget of a disney motion picture film while kimba is tv series. Yet anyone who knows cartoon history will tell u kimba in its era was truly a one of a kind masterpiece ( 1930s wizard of oz is a masterpiece eventhough it would be shit today). The point isnt who is better, its DID THEY STEAL IT? AND YES THEY DID, the quality of the theft doesnt change the fact its a theft.
Stealing all the way, disney aren't capable of creating a story like this anyhow, they r just animators(very good ones though). And to the idiots who say its better, compare kimba to american cartoons of that era and u will see how far ahead it is.
@dolphinluv2413 i love anime but like its 1960 the production budget was like 2 freakin dollars haha plus disney has like a budget of 6 mil... so yeah XD
t's plain and simple, no credit was given to the creator of Kimba so it was and is theft by the very same moral standards, pertaining to intellectual property, that Disney so zealously expresses and pursues legally and legislatively. American capitalists are hypocrites and parasites; they don't play by the rules they foist on others; especially the thankfully dead Nazi sympathiser, Walter Elias Disney.
@thoratkinson15 ok the issue is for you people to get a life the movie was out in 1994 its 2012 let it go do you think Disney is losing sleep over this | _|
omg whatever the lion king is a great movie and kimba is a good show if you watched the show you would see how its different but you wouldn't do that would you
They kill off villains in the most gruesome ways imaginable (some have literally been dragged to Hell), one of their princesses might have Stockholm Syndrome, they made a documentary in which they threw lemmings off of a cliff (and received an Oscar for their work), and one of their biggest hits may have been an incredible rip off.
hmm... 1960's JAPAN... 1990's UNITED STATES... thirty years and a shit ton of miles... how many 1960's Americans watched Kimba the White Lion? probably slim to none... so as far as i'm concerned... who cares? I'm sure both were enjoyed, which is the point of movies/tv shows. Besides, there isn't an original idea left in the world anymore anyway.
Honestly, I've seen some episodes from Kimba and I was severly disappointed. Though I only watched the first two, it didn't really look like the Lion King. Though I may think differently if I watch the rest of the episodes.
I liked the Lion King, but wise baboons, floating cloud lions, king's rock, the Simba Kimba thing, and the fact that the original Simba was WHITE make me believe that this was a rip off.
To be honest, I honestly don't believe that Disney actually decided to rip-off Kimba. I mean, the wise baboon and hyenas, yes, but.......... A warthog? Was the warthog a main character in Kimba?
Oh come on guys. Look up some facts before you whine about stealing. The creator of Kimba the White Lion would have been honored that animation god DISNEY was inspired by his series. Tezuka's wife had even told that to the company after he had passed away. Besides, waaaay back in the day anime was actually inspired by, and the Japanese adaption of Disney animation. Everyone is inspired by each other. Also, Simba means lion in Swahili. No big surprise there. Tezuka just stuck in a K.
@Nupoe first of all, Kimba was a name given to him by the dubbers. The name Tezuka gave him is Leo. And according to the dubbers that are still alive, his name was supposed to be Simba (big surprise) but they had to change it because there was a black power softdrink at the time with that name. Second, even if he would be honored, disney's official statement is that they've never heard of Kimba. Even when Tezuka met Disney in 1964! They don't even give hime credit that he deserves.
I have just lost ALL respect for Disney... This is copied! and what makes it worse is they didn't even TRY to make it different, even the name of the lion is almost identical.. Sad.
Stolen/copied or not, I think Tezuka wouldn't mind because he knew Disney and he even drew Bambi manga and paid homage to Disney many times (e.g. Astro Boy). So if it was really copied from "the Kamisama of manga" it doesn't really matter, we have two great stories and it's all we can ask for.
I'd have to watch Kimba to decide if it was stolen/homaged or not, and I have no time. So I'm calling this one "Well, SOMEONE at Disney obviously saw Kimba, but who knows how deep it went?"
i didnt have to grow up in 1960 to know that beacuse i watched kimba when i was 6 on the computer of course.... and then i watched lion king and i was like O. o wth THERE ALMOST THE SAME!!! yep
I guess you Disney fans would shit bricks of I told you that "Beauty and the Beast".. "Robin Hood" .."Bambi" .."Snow White" and 99% of other Disney movie idea's were not originally from Disney themselves.
But fuck if you'd believe me, I only go to a library to read these stories made DECADES before the movies (oh.. including the Jungle Emperor/Kimba Mangas from the 60's)
@SIycan That is so dumb :D Most of the films you listed were originally fairy tales, it's not surprising there are many versions of them :D And Robin Hood existed, just not in that epic steal from the rich and give it the poor way. Snow White, for example, is a fairytale of the Brothers Grimm. Did you know, that they only collected these stories?
@SIycan obviously most of their films werent orignally from them (not sure about bambi though)after all, little mermaid, snow white, rrobin hood, beauty and the beast ect are stories that have existed with hundreds of variations for, in some cases, hundreds of years. to be honest, the only reason i would have a problem with the lion king is their out right lying that it was their idea (it wouldnt be a first time, but still)
@SIycan Hahahaha yeah. The Lion King, according to Disney, was Disney’s first movie that wasn’t based off anything else. But obviously it was copied. I actually am a Disney fan, but I’m willing to admit that they aren’t original at all.
good artists copy...bad artists steal. i think the movie is different enough to say they COPIED kimba the white lion.. but they didnt STEAL it. I guess disney knew what they were doin, cuuuz.... the lion king made a bigger impression
@batfan Of course it did. It had the budget for more detailed animation and the where with all to get international release in theaters. Had this show and it's animators had such resources it would have made just as much an impression. For some, growing up back then and now.. it did.
Disney makes millions of dollars out of stolen things. When a kindergarten showed children "The Lion King", Disney claimed that it is a violation of copyrights. Disney should admit the thief and pay the percentage to Tezuka Production and credit the name. By the way, "Black Swan" also stole from "Perfect Blue" by a Japanese creator, who already passed away. I heard that Darren Aronofsky purchased the right of "Perfect Blue." But, there is not credit of the Japanese creator.
@InvisableINC I suppose you believe that Disney "had NO IDEA" that Kimba the white lion actually EXISTED?!Kimba was there SINCE 1965!!!!!!!!!!!
Generations of kids AROUND THE WORLD grew up with Kimba!Claiming that they didin't know is just retarded and unfair to Tezuka,in my opinion.As for the Kimba vs. Simba debate-I love BOTH.
@Granpapayon How do you know? Have you watched it? I honestly think It's hit or miss, but all the best elements of The Lion King are present in Kimba, and a lot more.
@elbethere maybbe most of the elements of The Lion King are presented in Kimba's cartoon but it is not a copy, so you'll think that George of the jungle is a copy of Tarzan?
the plot is different in each one, there are characters that are nearly equal but the have different roles in each one. Is the same in the Lion King, and in Kimba there's not a Zazu or a Timon (the tucan and the meerkat, here in Mexico are the names of each one).
@Granpapayon Yes, I do think that George of the jungle is spoofing Tarzan. I think that's obvious. But it's different enough to be justified as an homage, or spoof. And actually your wrong, there is a Zazu counterpart in Kimba. While there is no Timon meerkat counterpart, there is a comic relief sidekick in the form of a gazelle. Furthermore, as I said, all plot and most character elements in Lion King are present in Kimba. You don't believe me just watch it. The video above is a dead give away.
Well Lion King could be a homage to not only Kimba but to the creator of Kimber who is also the creator of Astro Boy and Gigantor who was a big fan of disney films which he has passed away
Maybe Lion King did draw some influence from Kimba, but they don't have much in common. Yes, both are about a royal lion, and both the dads die, in Kimba's case before he was born. Kimba is like a Robin Hood story, him trying to bring all the animals together. Lion King was basically a mix of Hamlet and Moses.
So... is this basically just one fandom battling another fandom? I love both Kimba and Simba. Although TLK is animated better, the plot, characters, and general impact of both are great, in my opinion. The Lion King is based off Kimba, of course, and it's not right that Disney gave no credit. But this was over 16 years ago. Can't we just accept the brilliance of both? :3
Oh, who cares! Kimba looks OLD and FAKE. Simba looks clearer, newer, and better! When I first watched Lion King, it touched my heart! Kimba was SOOO gay I couldn't even stand the first episode!
Plus, Kimba's original Japanese name was LEO not KIMBA!!! If the fucking Americans hadn't changed the names, Lion King wouldn't even BE a rip off! *spits on floor*
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@thanhtran5 Guessing you're born after the 90s or so :P you really don't watch old school cartoons maybe Scooby Doo or some Looney Tunes but this cartoon was one of the first animes IN COLOR so ofc it's gonna look outdated but that's how these cartoons started you ignorant child, I love Disney and even I admit Disney stole Kimba, which btw is a cuter story and I wasn't born in the 60's or whatever and I find this as a classic artwork and a great story
@thanhtran5 so even though you say it sucks, it just goes to show you how closeminded you are about classic stories that inspire the cartoons you watch son :P
Well if Disney has no problem stealing then I'm sure they should have no problem with me illegally downloading their movie! All I have to do is not acknowledge that I downloaded it illegally.
Except that it's come out several times now that lion king was originally intended to be a remake of kimba, but at some point some disney execs decided they didn't wanna dish out the royalties...so, yeh, they pretty much stole the thing wholesale. But that's cool, since they didn't play by their own rules, we don't really have to either. Bitorrent that shit!
I remember Kimba it was dubbed on pioneer video I always thought they were too close but no one else had ever seen Kimba so I kept it to myself... did you Hello Kitty has a sister named Mimi wonder what happened to her...
This is what happened.....Disney took the idea but didn't want to admit it. But to apologise, they became a great team with Japan. Look at the game "Kingdom hearts" Disney with Japanese anime. Look at the Toy Story series and Cars 2. All have something related to Japan. In the end, we should just respect Lion King for being a great movie. Yes, Kimba came first as an original. But I still love Lion King as my favorite disney movie.
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Dawnemperor1 2 days ago
What exactly does "Blaming disney" entail? It's very arbitrary and unproductive. Disney, like any company, has its flaws and it's a large corporation. Execs have different priorities from animators.
There are sources which acknowledge that there was Kimba inspiration (I believe it was a quote from Roy E. Disney) and some Disney animators who acknowledge the inspiration.
So yes, I agree that Disney should give its credit.
Dawnemperor1 2 days ago
People if Disney was stealing stuff from kimba to make the lion king than why were they at one point going to try to make a kimba movie with the animators. The plan fell through but they were planning it before the lion king.
idinakristinwicked 3 days ago
dont you people have a private life...? every click you take there's a stupid discussion about who's right... grow up
b7jay357 5 days ago
I love it
196940oz 5 days ago
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Indigo42Kitsune 1 week ago in playlist Season 2
i say, DISNEYS A BUNCH OF GREEDY NIGGERS
TheCratt 1 week ago
Nothing Disney "owns" is genuine. Everything Disney "owns" is stolen material.
STOP BUYING DISNEY PRODUCTS YOU FUCKERS
darkrift2100 1 week ago
I tried to tell them, but no one would listen to me 'cause I was only seven when it was in theatres. Now I rub against old ladies on the bus.
SpookyJohnathan 1 week ago 5
Disney, reaching a completely new level of laziness
RhiannonRae40977 1 week ago
As much as I love the Lion King. That shit is still stealing without giving credit.
Necrobutcher82 1 week ago
Simba means "Lion" in Swahili
JohnWDWCP 1 week ago 3
@JohnWDWCP Kimba is the rough Japanese translation
SounderBruce 1 week ago
Everything can use a makeover.. and if(use that word lightly) disney did use kimba as inspiration or what ever you want to call it, then they should of gave them credit. But personaly, since i grew up with the lion king, i like it far more than kimba. But kimba is bad or anything :3
ramona2mathis69 1 week ago
Do I care? Disney did it properly, what the hell was up with that anime? I like anime even the old ones, but looked horrid.
Darkdog 1 week ago
@Darkdog it was the 1960s you idiot and the idea maybe way before.too many to be a coincident and disney are bloodsucking hypocrites and thank god for dreamworks and pixar
lum2ina 1 week ago
@lum2ina Disney owns Pixar.
canuck21 1 week ago
@canuck21 LOL that's where you're wrong honey. disney would be nothing without pixar and broadway and hans christian anderson. please get a history check. pixar is an independent company before disney...o and u know steve jobs was one of the head there?
lum2ina 1 week ago
@lum2ina What are you, 12 years old?!? Why do I have to get a history check? Did I say that Disney came up with Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty or Pinocchio? Most people know that those are classics written centuries ago. You're not unveiling anything new pal.
I am also not wrong when I say that Disney owns Pixar because it DOES. Disney bought Pixar in 2006. Yes, I know that Steve Jobs used to own Pixar. I also know that he bought it from George Lucas.
canuck21 1 week ago
@canuck21 pixar was built in the late 80s and already running in 90s. and if you're talking about today they are releasing themselves from disney. and you know what movie critics credited "nothing's better than pixar's" (without crediting disney).
have you ever seen how disney pushed their workers in production, pixar-disney even stole the idea of presto, from a graduate who's looking for a job. THAT;S WHY PIXAR EMPLOYEE MOVED TO DREAMWORKS. dont just check ur sources in wikipedia
lum2ina 1 week ago
@lum2ina Listen. I don't know what's your freaking problem is. I don't know how many times do I have to say this, but I never said that Disney was original. Pixar is great and all but at the end of the day, Disney owns Pixar and that's that. I don't understand why you're trying so hard. I'm not pro Disney or anything, I just stated a fact. Yet again, you're forcing too much. Go take a pill and chill. Oh and BTW, DreamWorks Animation sucks.
canuck21 1 week ago
@lum2ina You think you know so much, but what you know about Disney and Pixar is common knowledge; nothing to brag about. You wrote that I was wrong and went on and on, but for what? All I said was Disney owns Pixar and that's a FACT.
canuck21 1 week ago
@Darkdog 1950's dude
Murphly 1 week ago
damn disney is a rip off
Ailensinvadethe970 2 weeks ago
all disney movies are rip offs
disney doesnt make orginal stories
Mrchadwarden1 2 weeks ago
I heard from one of my teachers that if you change something at least 30% then copyright doesnt matter... Isnt changing the color and names and probably plot at least 30%?
guess90210 2 weeks ago
@guess90210 ha what a smart teacher so copy and paste 30% of a report, type a shitty ending and your good? :D you should go to harvard
Ailensinvadethe970 2 weeks ago
looool total rip. If they had admitted they borrowed the idea then it would be homage. If you don't give credit then it is theft.
AnonymousFREEZEpOp1 2 weeks ago
I always thought LK ripped off Hamlet, everyone copies everyone anyway.
NMbarrassment 3 weeks ago
Just ask Matthew Broderick. He even admitted it.
reptilian321 3 weeks ago
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FUCK YOU DISNEY, YOU STEAL EVERYTHING FROM MIYAZAKI AND TEZUKA AND GIVE NOTHING BACK
YOU DON'T EVEN ADMIT IT
YOU ARE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT CAPITALIST COOPERATION
Sanimangas 3 weeks ago
Idk and rlly don't care... I luv the lion king movies :D
Shelby1999cute 3 weeks ago
FYI, the Lion King is more a rip of Shakespeare's Hamlet than anything else...
eiriklil 3 weeks ago
@eiriklil it's not a rip off of Hamlet, it's a revisioning of Hamlet. There's a difference.
NextToNothing123 3 weeks ago
@NextToNothing123 Well, you say potato...
eiriklil 3 weeks ago
@eiriklil lol no
thoratkinson15 3 weeks ago
here is the deal: samba is hamlet and kimba is a legendary white lion that brought anime to europe. i like both kimba the white lion and the lion king though i like kimba better since he goes through a whole lot more than simba and grows differently. watch the 1989 series of kimba and you will see what i mean. the 1989 series has a darker story but its really good. and i'm not talking about the dub. simba's story is more like hamlet but then with a lion. so yeah
EndlessOceanMew2 4 weeks ago
@EndlessOceanMew2 i meant to type simba in the first line
EndlessOceanMew2 4 weeks ago
My childhood is ruined!
TheHuntress144 4 weeks ago in playlist Season 2
To clarify my last comment, yes of course lion king is better because its 35 years or so later and it has the budget of a disney motion picture film while kimba is tv series. Yet anyone who knows cartoon history will tell u kimba in its era was truly a one of a kind masterpiece ( 1930s wizard of oz is a masterpiece eventhough it would be shit today). The point isnt who is better, its DID THEY STEAL IT? AND YES THEY DID, the quality of the theft doesnt change the fact its a theft.
kakashikillua1234 4 weeks ago
Stealing all the way, disney aren't capable of creating a story like this anyhow, they r just animators(very good ones though). And to the idiots who say its better, compare kimba to american cartoons of that era and u will see how far ahead it is.
kakashikillua1234 4 weeks ago
stealing or not disney version was better
teddiesluvyou 4 weeks ago
Since I don't like Anime, The Lion King is a remake that's far away better!!!!
dolphinluv2413 1 month ago
@dolphinluv2413 i love anime but like its 1960 the production budget was like 2 freakin dollars haha plus disney has like a budget of 6 mil... so yeah XD
missharumomo 1 month ago
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t's plain and simple, no credit was given to the creator of Kimba so it was and is theft by the very same moral standards, pertaining to intellectual property, that Disney so zealously expresses and pursues legally and legislatively. American capitalists are hypocrites and parasites; they don't play by the rules they foist on others; especially the thankfully dead Nazi sympathiser, Walter Elias Disney.
Tuathalful 1 month ago
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Tuathalful 1 month ago
stealing but good
pieceyuyu 1 month ago
Let's face it: The Lion King makes Kimba look like the 1960's Batman series... sorry.
FilmFTW1 1 month ago
Homage! If anything the creaters of "Kimba The White Lion" should be thanking Disney for making Lion King, its so much better in every way XD
inomewzakuro10123 1 month ago
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@inomewzakuro10123 "better"? that's your subjective opinion and has nothing to do with the legality or morality of Disney Ripping off Japanese work.
Tuathalful 1 month ago
@Tuathalful can you get a life thank you XD
sophiebridgers 1 month ago
and lion king is better you know it is
sophiebridgers 1 month ago
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Tuathalful 1 month ago
@sophiebridgers thats not the issue
thoratkinson15 3 weeks ago
@thoratkinson15 ok the issue is for you people to get a life the movie was out in 1994 its 2012 let it go do you think Disney is losing sleep over this | _|
sophiebridgers 3 weeks ago
@sophiebridgers yes
thoratkinson15 3 weeks ago
@thoratkinson15 sad
sophiebridgers 3 weeks ago
@sophiebridgers mad LOL
thoratkinson15 3 weeks ago
omg whatever the lion king is a great movie and kimba is a good show if you watched the show you would see how its different but you wouldn't do that would you
sophiebridgers 1 month ago
Neither.
Werebereus 1 month ago
Disney also stole ideas from japan for Atlantis, google Nadia vs Atlantis
nohohonzoku 1 month ago
So Disney completely rips off a story without giving credit/paying royalties, then later turns around and pushes an anti-piracy bill LOL
mtrujillo457 1 month ago 69
@mtrujillo457 It's the story of Disney... and every film they ever made...
NextToNothing123 3 weeks ago
@mtrujillo457 talk about bs
lalo1989cm 3 weeks ago
Disney! what fucking liars. They could have said it was a tribute to Kimba the white lion atleast.
Mew4U 1 month ago 3
Stealing or not, I can't help loving The lion king. It will always be my favorite movie.
TigerEyeNoxera 1 month ago 10
Stealing, except for Kimba/Simba. Turns out "Simba" is Swahili for "lion".
TehNerdQueen 1 month ago
STEALING FOREVER
HITigo 1 month ago in playlist Mais vídeos de Current
Lol, I THANK you for making this. This is ridiculous, Disney
Leafthefox2 1 month ago
Stealing :p Though I still love the lion king xD
petLoverCheese 1 month ago
正直言ってライオンキングクソつまらないと思いました。
ジャングル大帝レオのほうがよっぽど面白いしキャラクターもかわいいですよね。
TheJudgement98 1 month ago 24
@TheJudgement98 あなたはファニーだ。
Bunie1989 1 month ago
@TheJudgement98 I dunno man, I loved the Lion King!
NextToNothing123 3 weeks ago
@TheJudgement98 totally google translated this.
crytosleep37 1 week ago
So, let's look at Disney's resume:
They kill off villains in the most gruesome ways imaginable (some have literally been dragged to Hell), one of their princesses might have Stockholm Syndrome, they made a documentary in which they threw lemmings off of a cliff (and received an Oscar for their work), and one of their biggest hits may have been an incredible rip off.
Yeah, it's safe to say that Disney is evil.
FlyingFocs 1 month ago
I'm Japanese, though. I say fair impression. Obviously Kimba pics are better.
AwesomeKazuaki 1 month ago
lol fuck i hope they sued or got paid
blahness666 1 month ago in playlist Season 2
Homage because Simba means lion in swahilli wich was the creators idea. And the story is based out of hamlet not Kimba.
Anthraxinternational 1 month ago
Even if it was stolen, who cares the lion king was a lot better.
Usermoslander947 2 months ago
hmm... 1960's JAPAN... 1990's UNITED STATES... thirty years and a shit ton of miles... how many 1960's Americans watched Kimba the White Lion? probably slim to none... so as far as i'm concerned... who cares? I'm sure both were enjoyed, which is the point of movies/tv shows. Besides, there isn't an original idea left in the world anymore anyway.
soccermidNAG 2 months ago
Honestly, I've seen some episodes from Kimba and I was severly disappointed. Though I only watched the first two, it didn't really look like the Lion King. Though I may think differently if I watch the rest of the episodes.
Fernhilla 2 months ago
Stealing
I liked the Lion King, but wise baboons, floating cloud lions, king's rock, the Simba Kimba thing, and the fact that the original Simba was WHITE make me believe that this was a rip off.
Dogface1998 2 months ago
@Dogface1998 How is Kimba was WHITE has got to do with anything?
elzafir 1 month ago in playlist Season 2
To be honest, I honestly don't believe that Disney actually decided to rip-off Kimba. I mean, the wise baboon and hyenas, yes, but.......... A warthog? Was the warthog a main character in Kimba?
MichaelSar12IsBack 2 months ago
Homage or stolen, I like Lion king better.
joker8heart 2 months ago
stealing for sure :/
cynder2468 2 months ago
true but in my opinion japanese style animation in general, minus Akira and Steamboy have terrible drawings and theyre flat and charmless
xburk 2 months ago
Disney did it well, japan sucked by the looks of it
xburk 2 months ago
@xburk Disney is BADASS!! But you mstu admit.. it IS a 30 eyar difference in movie making! XD
foxgirl47 2 months ago
@xburk Don't judge the old show by it's age. If they had Lion King's budget, you would be blown away by it.
elbethere 2 months ago
also, if you think Harry Potter's original, read Wizard's Hall by Jane Yolen
heyfuzzycub 2 months ago in playlist Season 2
Oh come on guys. Look up some facts before you whine about stealing. The creator of Kimba the White Lion would have been honored that animation god DISNEY was inspired by his series. Tezuka's wife had even told that to the company after he had passed away. Besides, waaaay back in the day anime was actually inspired by, and the Japanese adaption of Disney animation. Everyone is inspired by each other. Also, Simba means lion in Swahili. No big surprise there. Tezuka just stuck in a K.
Nupoe 2 months ago
@Nupoe first of all, Kimba was a name given to him by the dubbers. The name Tezuka gave him is Leo. And according to the dubbers that are still alive, his name was supposed to be Simba (big surprise) but they had to change it because there was a black power softdrink at the time with that name. Second, even if he would be honored, disney's official statement is that they've never heard of Kimba. Even when Tezuka met Disney in 1964! They don't even give hime credit that he deserves.
elbethere 2 months ago
coincidence? lol
haoqh 2 months ago
@haoqh no.
elbethere 2 months ago
Stealing! >(
TheTwoGilrs 2 months ago 4
If you give a million monkeys a type writer then at least one will write the works of Skakespere or something similer.
Fernhilla 2 months ago
I have just lost ALL respect for Disney... This is copied! and what makes it worse is they didn't even TRY to make it different, even the name of the lion is almost identical.. Sad.
idontknow7572 2 months ago
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coincidence after coincidence no this is stealing
SuperR31 2 months ago
Stolen/copied or not, I think Tezuka wouldn't mind because he knew Disney and he even drew Bambi manga and paid homage to Disney many times (e.g. Astro Boy). So if it was really copied from "the Kamisama of manga" it doesn't really matter, we have two great stories and it's all we can ask for.
zhok023 2 months ago
@DW923 Do you want to know what's really funny? Your lack of grammar! :D
Try again next time.
LunaCatKitty 2 months ago
Thanks Disney. You've ruined my impression of you because of this.
Foxgirlgamer 2 months ago
STEALING!!!
DarkStar6161 3 months ago
i call stealing
ellnats 3 months ago
stealing
3Carbar 3 months ago
stealing!
SheFollowsMoon 3 months ago
I'd have to watch Kimba to decide if it was stolen/homaged or not, and I have no time. So I'm calling this one "Well, SOMEONE at Disney obviously saw Kimba, but who knows how deep it went?"
carlotta4th 3 months ago in playlist Season 2
An homage is when you give credit to what you make a tribute to. Otherwise it's called stealing...
SourJovis 3 months ago
i didnt have to grow up in 1960 to know that beacuse i watched kimba when i was 6 on the computer of course.... and then i watched lion king and i was like O. o wth THERE ALMOST THE SAME!!! yep
darkwolfanglefox 3 months ago
so fucking stealing disney realy have a original idea
galeck 3 months ago
I actually like Disneys 'The Lion King' more than 'Kimba'.
destinynight98 3 months ago
Japan invented shows like "Wipeout" and "Hole in the Wall" and America stole it and implied it was a new idea. Not new news...
daniyellowjello 3 months ago
Well The Lion King was based off of Hamlet soooo...
ParamoreFan4732 3 months ago 3
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I guess you Disney fans would shit bricks of I told you that "Beauty and the Beast".. "Robin Hood" .."Bambi" .."Snow White" and 99% of other Disney movie idea's were not originally from Disney themselves.
But fuck if you'd believe me, I only go to a library to read these stories made DECADES before the movies (oh.. including the Jungle Emperor/Kimba Mangas from the 60's)
SIycan 3 months ago 9
@SIycan That is so dumb :D Most of the films you listed were originally fairy tales, it's not surprising there are many versions of them :D And Robin Hood existed, just not in that epic steal from the rich and give it the poor way. Snow White, for example, is a fairytale of the Brothers Grimm. Did you know, that they only collected these stories?
Chocol8ChipCookies12 3 months ago
@SIycan obviously most of their films werent orignally from them (not sure about bambi though)after all, little mermaid, snow white, rrobin hood, beauty and the beast ect are stories that have existed with hundreds of variations for, in some cases, hundreds of years. to be honest, the only reason i would have a problem with the lion king is their out right lying that it was their idea (it wouldnt be a first time, but still)
vikingdrizzit 2 months ago
@SIycan Hahahaha yeah. The Lion King, according to Disney, was Disney’s first movie that wasn’t based off anything else. But obviously it was copied. I actually am a Disney fan, but I’m willing to admit that they aren’t original at all.
GothicAthlete 2 months ago
good artists copy...bad artists steal. i think the movie is different enough to say they COPIED kimba the white lion.. but they didnt STEAL it. I guess disney knew what they were doin, cuuuz.... the lion king made a bigger impression
batfan 3 months ago
@batfan Of course it did. It had the budget for more detailed animation and the where with all to get international release in theaters. Had this show and it's animators had such resources it would have made just as much an impression. For some, growing up back then and now.. it did.
elbethere 3 months ago
どちらも素晴らしい作品です。
rubbish106 3 months ago
Disney makes millions of dollars out of stolen things. When a kindergarten showed children "The Lion King", Disney claimed that it is a violation of copyrights. Disney should admit the thief and pay the percentage to Tezuka Production and credit the name. By the way, "Black Swan" also stole from "Perfect Blue" by a Japanese creator, who already passed away. I heard that Darren Aronofsky purchased the right of "Perfect Blue." But, there is not credit of the Japanese creator.
yagesearch 3 months ago
ITS A HUGE RIP OFF LOL DISNEY COPIED IT FROM KIMBA,AND THEY JUST DISGUISED ALL THE CHARACTERS,LOL
mjfollower100 3 months ago
I just think its a coincidence
mikkelhaxer 3 months ago
Claw is probably one of the most fail antagonists I know.
GhostOrchestra 3 months ago 2
how is disney supposed to know?!?!??!?!??!
InvisableINC 3 months ago
@InvisableINC I suppose you believe that Disney "had NO IDEA" that Kimba the white lion actually EXISTED?!Kimba was there SINCE 1965!!!!!!!!!!!
Generations of kids AROUND THE WORLD grew up with Kimba!Claiming that they didin't know is just retarded and unfair to Tezuka,in my opinion.As for the Kimba vs. Simba debate-I love BOTH.
MissHelloMara 3 months ago
@MissHelloMara plus the original concept art for the lion was simba to be white you can check that on the platinum edition dvd of the lion king
ProjectBlackStar 3 months ago
Renea1991 has a point, I mean who here doesn't like The Lion King?
assult129 3 months ago
Homage, the writer of Lion King was probably a big fan of Kimba. But still Disney give them some credit.
Renea1991 3 months ago
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Quoted from the word by Osamu Tezuka's family (son?)
"It it was really copied by Disney, we'd be proud of this. "
I am not sure if it was copied/stolen or not , but at least I like this generous and modest attitude.
tj041383 3 months ago 22
Even if it's stealing, The Lion King is still probably nicer. I have to say it.
TaylorSwiftRoxMe 3 months ago
@TaylorSwiftRoxMe It maybe true, because newer one can " stand on" older one...
tj041383 3 months ago
its plagiarism plain and simple
kilkolio 3 months ago 2
Well but Disney's "Simba" is one million times better than the japanese cartoon "Kimba"
Granpapayon 3 months ago
@Granpapayon How do you know? Have you watched it? I honestly think It's hit or miss, but all the best elements of The Lion King are present in Kimba, and a lot more.
elbethere 3 months ago
@elbethere maybbe most of the elements of The Lion King are presented in Kimba's cartoon but it is not a copy, so you'll think that George of the jungle is a copy of Tarzan?
the plot is different in each one, there are characters that are nearly equal but the have different roles in each one. Is the same in the Lion King, and in Kimba there's not a Zazu or a Timon (the tucan and the meerkat, here in Mexico are the names of each one).
Granpapayon 3 months ago
@Granpapayon Yes, I do think that George of the jungle is spoofing Tarzan. I think that's obvious. But it's different enough to be justified as an homage, or spoof. And actually your wrong, there is a Zazu counterpart in Kimba. While there is no Timon meerkat counterpart, there is a comic relief sidekick in the form of a gazelle. Furthermore, as I said, all plot and most character elements in Lion King are present in Kimba. You don't believe me just watch it. The video above is a dead give away.
elbethere 3 months ago
@Granpapayon well yes,stories are completely different,but most of the scenes are practicaly identical.
MissHelloMara 3 months ago
Well Lion King could be a homage to not only Kimba but to the creator of Kimber who is also the creator of Astro Boy and Gigantor who was a big fan of disney films which he has passed away
SaveAnimeOrBuryIt 3 months ago
Maybe Lion King did draw some influence from Kimba, but they don't have much in common. Yes, both are about a royal lion, and both the dads die, in Kimba's case before he was born. Kimba is like a Robin Hood story, him trying to bring all the animals together. Lion King was basically a mix of Hamlet and Moses.
zombiefan011 3 months ago
Well, it's stealing. But Disney's got the better version :-) ♥
emilysfeather 3 months ago
So... is this basically just one fandom battling another fandom? I love both Kimba and Simba. Although TLK is animated better, the plot, characters, and general impact of both are great, in my opinion. The Lion King is based off Kimba, of course, and it's not right that Disney gave no credit. But this was over 16 years ago. Can't we just accept the brilliance of both? :3
TheFatalEmbargo 3 months ago 3
lol it's stealing
but it doesn't mean they didn't make a better movie out of it XD
keithtreason 3 months ago
stealing i luv lion king much better
LadyGaGaBasta 3 months ago
Simba means "lion", so I don't think this would be the argument.
Even if Disney was inspired by the anime, it's not Kimba that wins from the comparison..
du6167 3 months ago
It was a total rip off come on.
Kimba... Simba...
The dead dad. The uncle, aunt.
It was originally meant to be a homage, but then Disney acted like it was their total idea. Come on.
CockyR4 3 months ago
Disney shit
Akira00arikA 4 months ago
Oh, who cares! Kimba looks OLD and FAKE. Simba looks clearer, newer, and better! When I first watched Lion King, it touched my heart! Kimba was SOOO gay I couldn't even stand the first episode!
Plus, Kimba's original Japanese name was LEO not KIMBA!!! If the fucking Americans hadn't changed the names, Lion King wouldn't even BE a rip off! *spits on floor*
KIMBA SUCKS! LION KING FOREVER!!!!!!
thanhtran5 4 months ago
@thanhtran5 The Lion King is shit fucking disney fan
kl24ntr 3 months ago
@kl24ntr stop it why r u arguing? if u dont like us disney fans then dont talk to us.
noopdog9991 3 months ago
@noopdog9991 have to be blind not to notice the plagiarism
kl24ntr 3 months ago
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noopdog9991 3 months ago
@thanhtran5 Guessing you're born after the 90s or so :P you really don't watch old school cartoons maybe Scooby Doo or some Looney Tunes but this cartoon was one of the first animes IN COLOR so ofc it's gonna look outdated but that's how these cartoons started you ignorant child, I love Disney and even I admit Disney stole Kimba, which btw is a cuter story and I wasn't born in the 60's or whatever and I find this as a classic artwork and a great story
RoyalFlushSpade07 3 months ago
@thanhtran5 so even though you say it sucks, it just goes to show you how closeminded you are about classic stories that inspire the cartoons you watch son :P
RoyalFlushSpade07 3 months ago
lol who cares? lion king kickass
loganater5004 4 months ago
Simba is better anyway
huskyfan96 4 months ago
It's stealing but it doesn't change the fact that The Lion King is waaaay better. :)
Hikaru626 4 months ago
Well if Disney has no problem stealing then I'm sure they should have no problem with me illegally downloading their movie! All I have to do is not acknowledge that I downloaded it illegally.
Thank you Disney logic!
June28July 4 months ago 4
@xLupineRadiancex
Loved how you put it in this comment. Fuck Disney!
June28July 4 months ago
Stealing
June28July 4 months ago
Who cares. Love Lion King, stolen or not.
JoeskaMG 4 months ago
Except that it's come out several times now that lion king was originally intended to be a remake of kimba, but at some point some disney execs decided they didn't wanna dish out the royalties...so, yeh, they pretty much stole the thing wholesale. But that's cool, since they didn't play by their own rules, we don't really have to either. Bitorrent that shit!
kohle36 4 months ago
I remember Kimba it was dubbed on pioneer video I always thought they were too close but no one else had ever seen Kimba so I kept it to myself... did you Hello Kitty has a sister named Mimi wonder what happened to her...
greenmuffin101 4 months ago
This is what happened.....Disney took the idea but didn't want to admit it. But to apologise, they became a great team with Japan. Look at the game "Kingdom hearts" Disney with Japanese anime. Look at the Toy Story series and Cars 2. All have something related to Japan. In the end, we should just respect Lion King for being a great movie. Yes, Kimba came first as an original. But I still love Lion King as my favorite disney movie.
goe5 4 months ago
Disney jerks steal everything. They have no originality.
TheHedgehogErik 4 months ago
Sure, Lion King may be better overall, but come on. Without a doubt, it's STEALING. Disney fan or not, you have got to admit it. >.>
The2cookie2 4 months ago
Gotta say, Scar's far more badass than Claw.
Claw makes me lol.
Scar makes me shit bricks.
LunaCatKitty 4 months ago 36
kimba is stolen --'
lion king is more original :p
Kimba is just fake...
CalistaGarretttNL 4 months ago
@CalistaGarretttNL Kimba came first
tiastarbreeze 4 months ago
gay
kl24ntr 4 months ago
definitely stealing. i love the lion king and i always will...b