Imagine covering an entire building with this material. Enough energy to power the lights, equipment, A/C etc. Yeah good luck getting that past the electric company.
@jmccuen Bro my mate is a project manage who honoured in sustainable development. Were taking this idea on in Australia with our new carbon tax. It is the new way of the future with plenty of money to made going green.
take those panels and put them in the basement.first you take a parabolic solar concentrator and put an robotic arm on it to follow the suns path.then make the focal point a mirrored shape cone that will send the light down through mirrored glass tubing straight into a mirrored shape glass box inside the mirrored shape box will be several solar panels that spin to keep them cool the mirrored box must have the mirrors inward to reflect the light sending from the parabolic focal point.ken van horn
The power companies will not allow solar to make a large impact without their hand in the profit, thats why solar hasnt caught on, wont either. Gotta do it on your own.
Or if solar clear and transparent solar cell glass are used then more light can travel to behind and through the first stacked solar panel, because it is clear you can also make them thicker maybe up to a foot thick of solar cells window because light can travel to other solar cells if front cells are clear::Also If light(or electro enhanced light panels can put light in different places, directions for hidden solar cells in and out of corners and through tunnels can be usefull::
I invented a breakthrough source of energy, which contradicts the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which contradict the law of energy conservation. It will cost about $1200 to make a 6 kW generator in mass production. Value of the energy produced yearly about $5400. I am looking for $300 000 for a prototype and for $3M for patents.
@SpankyNick: Solar power = good. Solar cells over everything in sight = annoying (almost bad). Transparent cells that can be placed all over the place (wherever glass goes and more) = better. Got it?
@proverb311031 and u forgot that the gasses we create would build up in the dome thus killing us all lol like in Mexico... ya u seen whats happened those mountains are bastards!
@VidsOfOurLabor You could just put into place sliding panels to release gasses, also you do always have to have them closed as well.
we could use this technology to build a dome over our country, while we benefit for sloar energy and hold out the gasses that would pollute our country.
there are a few flaws in your suggestion. first: hurricanes, tornados, and essentially weather. second: the migration of birds and flight would be affected. and lastly international flights.
@proverb311031 and u forgot that the gasses we create would build up in the dome thus killing us all lol like in mexico... ya u seen whats happened those mountains are bastards!
@md22mint lol so the big money interests that bought it can sell your all of their old shit still in inventory then also get you to pay for latests model when they release it finally.
But, if efficiency is how many photons get absorbed and converted to electron movement, how can transparent be a good thing? I'd rather they try and find ways of making them more *OPAQUE* and getting those additional photons converted to electron movement! Come on, guys! Solar cells that are as dark as platinum black, woohoo!
so if they're transparent then cant u overlap them as many times as u want and make even more power? imagine having flexible transparent solar panels all over ur car or electric bicycle.
Silicon PV cells too only absorb small portion of the white light spectrum. The rest becomes heat of the cells, instead of electric energy, and gets wasted.
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yea fucking right. Less material = less expensive? Bullshit. Less material is more expensive because you make them more technology wise which is more cost. making things thinner means more delicate work = easy screw ups. Not efficient way of money.
Project like these just never seem to make it in the end due to unresolved issues.
Heres a few things to think about. 1. Price of materials vs PV Panels. 2. Life expectancy vs PV panels. 3. Availability vs. PV panels. 4. Difficulty in tying to your power source.
As of now, the traditional PV Solar Panels are the best for best in the field. I've seen many different competitors, who all have draw backs. Since most installers work with PV, your going to get your best deal there.
An important idea here is they are "just as efficient" as silicon based panels. Thin films are not new, not as efficient, nor, yet truly affordable for mass markets. This will be a good niche application, with potential through higher efficiencies, as well.
It's that "almost as efficient" and "transparent" the concern me. That says that visible light isn't what these cells are converting. I don'tknow about these scientists, but I sort of get the impression you want to absorb more photons to get better energy efficiency.. and when you absorb 100% of the incomming photons,... no more transparency! And I *do* mean converting absorbed photons into electrical energy, not just useless light absorbtion.
It depends on what wavelength they are operating at. At IR wavelengths, they can be the same efficiencies, but at visible light wavelengths, that lack of absorption means much lower frequencies. If they were 100%, for instance, they be platinum black in appearance. Having seen ultrathin cells that can work from IR to green absorption, there's no way these are "just as" efficient.. misleading statement unless they tell you what conventional cell they compared them to...
@RyuDarragh maybe they mean "just as efficient" as in there's the same silicon-to-energy ratio. It won't generate as much, because it uses much less silicon (so thin that it's very transparent).
@MrProgrampro: It's all down to photon conversion efficiency. A perfect cell is opaque at all frequencies from the deep infrared through the short UV range. At one particular, or a narrow range, the transparent (a relative term) cells may be as efficient as the more opaque cells, but not as efficient as it could be.
I am almost sure that they did this in Japan before. There was this documentary that I watched on a regular basis that showed how the Japanese scientist would create the tranparent solar cells in a type of glass, they could even choose the colour of the glass that they wanted. Not sure if the documentary was valid though.
This here is the right stuff. Not only will it enable home owners to place a plastic Solar Collector sheet on their south-facing windows and any tinted windows or skylights, but companies will be able to place these liners on the windows of their office buildings. Imagine the power a single office building whose south, east, and west sides are coated with these panels.
And then there's NASA and the possibility of solar sails. This would make satellites so much lighter and cheaper.
this came out 2 and a half years ago and i havnt heard anything about this stuff since
tejhim 10 months ago 6
Imagine covering an entire building with this material. Enough energy to power the lights, equipment, A/C etc. Yeah good luck getting that past the electric company.
jmccuen 11 months ago 2
@jmccuen Bro my mate is a project manage who honoured in sustainable development. Were taking this idea on in Australia with our new carbon tax. It is the new way of the future with plenty of money to made going green.
Roxy4217 3 months ago
Great product. Put in on sails of boats
GotanARidea 1 year ago
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take those panels and put them in the basement.first you take a parabolic solar concentrator and put an robotic arm on it to follow the suns path.then make the focal point a mirrored shape cone that will send the light down through mirrored glass tubing straight into a mirrored shape glass box inside the mirrored shape box will be several solar panels that spin to keep them cool the mirrored box must have the mirrors inward to reflect the light sending from the parabolic focal point.ken van horn
kennethvanhorn 1 year ago
Go for it John
jcanivan 1 year ago
The power companies will not allow solar to make a large impact without their hand in the profit, thats why solar hasnt caught on, wont either. Gotta do it on your own.
HappyJackProduction1 1 year ago
Excellent Technology ... until the Petroleum or Electrical Industry buys the company :(
EssiacHempLaetrile 1 year ago 6
Or if solar clear and transparent solar cell glass are used then more light can travel to behind and through the first stacked solar panel, because it is clear you can also make them thicker maybe up to a foot thick of solar cells window because light can travel to other solar cells if front cells are clear::Also If light(or electro enhanced light panels can put light in different places, directions for hidden solar cells in and out of corners and through tunnels can be usefull::
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henrykay01 1 year ago
The 2 main questions now are:
- What is the life expectancy? Because most people think they will last forever.
- What effect does heat build-up have on the power output? From what I've heard, the efficiency goes down.
Afrocanuk 1 year ago
@Afrocanuk embed Thermocouples into to act as both a heat sink, and to generate more electric!
proverb311031 1 year ago
We are all concerned about the latest MP3 or IPhone. When will this come to market
hotshot1987 1 year ago
@hotshot1987 what dus tht have to do with anything?
SpankyNick 1 year ago
@SpankyNick: Solar power = good. Solar cells over everything in sight = annoying (almost bad). Transparent cells that can be placed all over the place (wherever glass goes and more) = better. Got it?
RyuDarragh 1 year ago
That's really nice!
AlexandrGreen 1 year ago
@proverb311031 and u forgot that the gasses we create would build up in the dome thus killing us all lol like in Mexico... ya u seen whats happened those mountains are bastards!
@VidsOfOurLabor You could just put into place sliding panels to release gasses, also you do always have to have them closed as well.
proverb311031 1 year ago
this is great for sustainable buildings
Calxx 2 years ago
If they were suitable for 3D solar cells?
sunrydz777 2 years ago
we could use this technology to build a dome over our country, while we benefit for sloar energy and hold out the gasses that would pollute our country.
proverb311031 2 years ago
there are a few flaws in your suggestion. first: hurricanes, tornados, and essentially weather. second: the migration of birds and flight would be affected. and lastly international flights.
Zeethr 2 years ago
That is an epic idea
JakkHack 2 years ago
@proverb311031 and u forgot that the gasses we create would build up in the dome thus killing us all lol like in mexico... ya u seen whats happened those mountains are bastards!
VidsOfOurLabor 1 year ago
Why is it that after they develop the technology it will take about 50 years before it gets to the general public?
md22mint 2 years ago
Cause thats about how long it takes for the resistors to all die away. Then the next generation makes it ubiquitous.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago
@md22mint lol so the big money interests that bought it can sell your all of their old shit still in inventory then also get you to pay for latests model when they release it finally.
Bigbird5553 2 years ago
production
dzgfdg 2 years ago
That`s super cool!...
zapxlib 2 years ago
this is revolutionary
RealDiaz 2 years ago
This could SOOO be used for mobile phones, like imagine you have that tape all over the phone, and monitor...Cool
Iglaaa 2 years ago
Law of diminishing returns, r2dxhate. Far better one layer that is 100% absorbtive and converts 100% in one step.
RyuDarragh 3 years ago
I cant wait for these to start mass producing. Adding a whole bunch to the chevy volt car would increase the appeal of that vehicle
ANTIwestboroBC 3 years ago
Genius.
gur1337 3 years ago
This reporter has his facts wrong, Silicon is not the best material for the solar cell!!
wokay08 3 years ago
To correct myself 'fact'.
wokay08 3 years ago
didnt he just say that they found a better material anyway?
ANTIwestboroBC 3 years ago
But, if efficiency is how many photons get absorbed and converted to electron movement, how can transparent be a good thing? I'd rather they try and find ways of making them more *OPAQUE* and getting those additional photons converted to electron movement! Come on, guys! Solar cells that are as dark as platinum black, woohoo!
RyuDarragh 3 years ago 3
so if they're transparent then cant u overlap them as many times as u want and make even more power? imagine having flexible transparent solar panels all over ur car or electric bicycle.
r2dxhate 3 years ago
Silicon PV cells too only absorb small portion of the white light spectrum. The rest becomes heat of the cells, instead of electric energy, and gets wasted.
kumkeejjl 3 years ago
Which is why you layer stack them on top of eachother the cells which filter a specific wave type so that a single cell produces 85% more energy.
KnightChatX 2 years ago
@RyuDarragh The hotter panels get the less effective they are so there's a trade-off
rrayas11 8 months ago
btw...how much this little piece give power?
agfaclan 3 years ago
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yea fucking right. Less material = less expensive? Bullshit. Less material is more expensive because you make them more technology wise which is more cost. making things thinner means more delicate work = easy screw ups. Not efficient way of money.
yuna238 3 years ago
sometimes i even wonder whether the people at science central have brains or not.
yuna238 3 years ago
I agree, there will be a steep price to pay for this . Take a look at carbon fiber production it is old , yet still expensive to produce.
graasroots 3 years ago
yea, BUT if they introduced these it would lower the prices of the older ones. Problem solved :)
spartan688082 3 years ago
agreed
graasroots 3 years ago
yeah! I want about 12 square feet of them please.
Tubuletastic 3 years ago 2
This could be used so well if they keep at it, Though I can hardly see how they could be as efficent as traditional panels as of yet...
Fair play to all the Scientists out there trying to bring benefit to society....
nitrobyname 3 years ago
Project like these just never seem to make it in the end due to unresolved issues.
Heres a few things to think about. 1. Price of materials vs PV Panels. 2. Life expectancy vs PV panels. 3. Availability vs. PV panels. 4. Difficulty in tying to your power source.
As of now, the traditional PV Solar Panels are the best for best in the field. I've seen many different competitors, who all have draw backs. Since most installers work with PV, your going to get your best deal there.
jamescgale 3 years ago 2
An important idea here is they are "just as efficient" as silicon based panels. Thin films are not new, not as efficient, nor, yet truly affordable for mass markets. This will be a good niche application, with potential through higher efficiencies, as well.
scharwenka1850 3 years ago
20 years, shit is going to be sooo different....
hellomate639 3 years ago
wow these scientist are so pro @_@
whomybuddy 3 years ago
Nah, they are just thinking differently. The material for this was sitting in front of everyone else but they never bothered. -_-'
Shonbi 3 years ago
We need to improve the solar cell technology we have now so we can use it anywhere, espcially if is not combersome and expensive.
ALaudun 3 years ago
It's that "almost as efficient" and "transparent" the concern me. That says that visible light isn't what these cells are converting. I don'tknow about these scientists, but I sort of get the impression you want to absorb more photons to get better energy efficiency.. and when you absorb 100% of the incomming photons,... no more transparency! And I *do* mean converting absorbed photons into electrical energy, not just useless light absorbtion.
RyuDarragh 3 years ago
the guy said 'just as efficient'(at 1:10) not 'almost as efficint'.
quietman18 3 years ago
It depends on what wavelength they are operating at. At IR wavelengths, they can be the same efficiencies, but at visible light wavelengths, that lack of absorption means much lower frequencies. If they were 100%, for instance, they be platinum black in appearance. Having seen ultrathin cells that can work from IR to green absorption, there's no way these are "just as" efficient.. misleading statement unless they tell you what conventional cell they compared them to...
RyuDarragh 3 years ago
@RyuDarragh maybe they mean "just as efficient" as in there's the same silicon-to-energy ratio. It won't generate as much, because it uses much less silicon (so thin that it's very transparent).
MrProgrampro 1 year ago
@MrProgrampro: It's all down to photon conversion efficiency. A perfect cell is opaque at all frequencies from the deep infrared through the short UV range. At one particular, or a narrow range, the transparent (a relative term) cells may be as efficient as the more opaque cells, but not as efficient as it could be.
RyuDarragh 1 year ago
astonishing
5uper5tring 3 years ago
not astonishing, it just makes sense
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago
I guess your lack of respect for real science is understandable considering you are a sociologist.
5uper5tring 3 years ago
You're talking about emotions, not ration. Or you've got them mixed. Science is not like that
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago
I am almost sure that they did this in Japan before. There was this documentary that I watched on a regular basis that showed how the Japanese scientist would create the tranparent solar cells in a type of glass, they could even choose the colour of the glass that they wanted. Not sure if the documentary was valid though.
xxeonn 3 years ago
Yeah, should make it a lot cheaper. Just need to mass produce it!
Tenetri 3 years ago
how much does it cost to make this new material? I can barely afford regular solar panels...
pawletoe 3 years ago
definitivamente con esto todo va a estar mucho mejor
heater6of6the6law 3 years ago
This here is the right stuff. Not only will it enable home owners to place a plastic Solar Collector sheet on their south-facing windows and any tinted windows or skylights, but companies will be able to place these liners on the windows of their office buildings. Imagine the power a single office building whose south, east, and west sides are coated with these panels.
And then there's NASA and the possibility of solar sails. This would make satellites so much lighter and cheaper.
Etimos 3 years ago
this is awesome! im sure anyone can imagine the possibilities.
sirillclint 3 years ago
WoW, thats great :D
bokkenknuser 3 years ago
this made my day
djancak 3 years ago
Fantastic!
RickChimera 3 years ago