OCZ Synapse Caching SSD Showcase & Performance Test NCIX Tech Tips

[NenyaRingOfElement]

perfect!!thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!



[itsVantage]

So if it has a backup for when the first set of nand dies. Would'nt a raid 0 cache halve the IOPS per set of capcity and give much better performance?

[likesm14]

I´m a total noob in hards drives and ssds. what is better : a ssd for boot, or for cache?

[SeanHuggable]

Do a comparison with Asus's inhouse ssd caching on their x79 platform vs OCZ Dataplex on the same platform please !

[m0cahacker]

time for a new camera

[0CitizenOfTheWorl]

Isn´t RAM so cheep nowadays SO we could just expand motherboard RAM slots and get better speeds and storage?

[T0MMYC123]

@0CitizenOfTheWorl you'll get to a point when it wont make a difference if you put more ram in. ive got 16 gb and i dont notice a difference from when i had 8

[ianmarais1]

@T0MMYC123 Whell it also depends on the Mhz, was both the 8GB and 16GB the same Mhz?. RAM is Random Access Memory, and it is just the work station. Hard Disk Drive (HDD) is only for storing saved docs and apps and like gaming progress, but RAM is used for When the file is in progress and the size of the file's progress are behing stored and refreshed very fast. When saved and exited it is removed completly from the RAM and stored in HDD. It can only travel and proccessd as fast as-

[ianmarais1]

@T0MMYC123 -the amont of bandwidth in Mhz it has, if the file is like 2GB and the RAM is either 8GB or 16GB it wont make a difference if its got different storige space and the same amount of bandwidth, it might have a little bit better refresh rate interms of the 16GB one then the 8GB one but thats barley noticable. The bigger the file the lower the refresh rate.

[T0MMYC123]

@ianmarais1 its the same 1600mhz.

[ianmarais1]

@T0MMYC123 ok, so the nessesery amount would be 8GB, that is a sweetspot for gamers these days, its over enough but don't sell the 16GB you might need it next year. 1600 is a pretty fast bandwidth, you could get 1800Mhz or even up to 2400Mhz but those two are for very high end motherboards like the Gigabyte G1 Assassen and others, you can use either one, the 8GB is over eenough like I said but now that you have the 16GB you might as whell use it to have some headroom for future games.

[bcwlim]

There is a fourth option -- FancyCache, basically similar to the dataplex software; but it works with any SSD. Google it, some how I can't post links here.

[KONGONTOWER]

Cocaine's a hell of a drug. 

[DOWWADC]

Good example! I understand now :)

[iNf3rNuSdI4bLuS1]

but most asus x79 based mobos have a 3rd party controller for ssd caching....

[83cajht]

hi can you make a vidio were you use the ram for caching, like how to set up, the x79 chipset far as i know alows you to do it. it would be great planing on to do it but don't know how to

[TheBjarkiB]

Hey, can you please make a good sleeving guide?

[Dok521]

Ну почему нет перевода.

[FMMProductions]

For those who aren't aware - The Synapse Cache drive only works for the boot drive. I brought one of these for my new rig and my boot drive is an SSD so makes the Synapse Cache worthless.

I contacted OCZ to find out of their going to be releasing a firmware update to include storage drives also and they basicly said no. Thumb so people can see.

[ExtraterrestrialMind]

Okay what will i need exactly to start SSD Caching?

I now i gotta get the "64 GB OCZ Synapse Cache Solid state drive"

Allready found the retailer that sells it.

But my question is, do i need anything else?

[camdened123456]

@ExtraterrestrialMind a Z68 motherboard and you need to do a clean write of your hard drive as well so i new copy of windows; i think.

[Firenaught]

i still don't get the ssd cashing thing :(

[ahmadpierre]

in 2:48 and 2:55 linus said we can use or we can't use srt?

i know srt can't be used in x79 platform.... so why linus said we can use srt ?

[Mobliz]

So my librarian moved his desk into the archive room and is also a mutant with 5 arms. What kind of setup do I have now?

[Ukeleleninja]

@Mobliz now you have a raid 0 with 3 ssd hooked upped.

[Shaba6766]

Linus, if I set up my build with windows 7 on an ssd and another 750 gb hdd for everything else, is the set up the same? I suppose that I just have the ocz drive cache my 750 gb hdd since all my files, except my OS, will be there. Am I assuming correctly?

[ruhulaminutube]

Still a little bit confused.

[aman11022]

which SSD is durable?

[bcballer13]

Is this for a computer?

[bmhyakiri]

@bcballer13 Are you serious....?

[fr0nage]

I have this drive, can make your OS unstable.

[abi2478]

in soviet russia the library reads in you :)

[DigitalBroomstick]

That porno intro music makes my day, Thanks Linus!

[AznInTheGhetto]

@TheDom820 lol hdd is the most unreliable

[TheCrazySquirell]

May I ask why the quality of your videos on this channel is so crap compared to the TechTips channel?

[JRTPS3]

Has anyone noticed that Linus puts on a completely different voice for his NCIX videos!?

[Destroysall]

@JRTPS3 well of course he does. NCIX uses them in their stores.

[bilekas1]

boy didn't lie once. although he could've like many others. listen closely.

[TheMaristBoy]

Chill guys! The water cooling set up is still frozen from the winter. Or some crazy crap like that.

[TheDom820]

Ssd the most unreliable thing ever

[GrixM]

@TheDom820 Bullshit

[zStrikeX]

Linus, can you do a video tutorial about the best SSD+HDD setup? I have a 60GB SSD and a 1TB HDD.

[christiangarciaj]

I'd like to see what performance gains there are to using a wd velociraptor with ssd caching vs lets say a caviar black?

[deterdettol]

@christiangarciaj You should compare Black w/ SSD caching vs Raptor than that.

That's an unfair comparison derp.

[donyario]

I gave this a go with an OCZ 60gb SSD & Intel SRT technology... not worth it... buggy, problematic & a pain in the ass... at this point, its still MUCH better to just work a little bit harder, buy a 120gb sata3 ssd and benefit from much much much faster read & writes...

[MrShadowhearth]

right, i am a bit confused ( noob here) now i got 60gb ssd and 500gb hdd. so i could use 60gb ssd to make my 500gb work faster if i set it for caching? i do got MSI z68 board. now i am using 60gb ssd as boot drive and 500 for storage.

[TheMaristBoy]

@MrShadowhearth It's probably not worth the hassle of reformatting the ssd.

[gosong999]

OK NOW WATER COOLING PART 3 PLEASE. THANK YOU

[layol692k7]

great video mate it has me thinking of getting of there instead of a ssd boot drive for the amount of shear storage and how much you can have installed on your system

[abi2478]

I understand the SSD caching part but i don't understand the library theory /:(

[JRBricha]

LOL 4:00 "and the chipset...........model."

[PancakeMixxCOD]

not my favorite retailer unless us give US WATERCOOLING PART 3

[gunshops1]

may I as what is the best ssd out in the market today?

[hazcheezeburgerz]

@gunshops1 vertex 3 max iops, kingston hyperx...

[LimpMan1]

i can't get you.sorry for your library example...

[Niqbal87]

computers learning scares me

[silvanmacsilvan]

@2:49 DUH

[sureshracer]

cant understand single word

[ableman8]

is the librarian hot?

[ahmadmukhlis24]

This old.

[Hallucinogens666]

I thought the new x79 rampage had a form of cacheing built into it also

[ROLNIKxPL]

fuck it, 10 SSDs in RAID 0

[Poshua92]

SSDs have limited write cycles. Even watching youtube videos is wearing my SSD, but ever so slowly. This is because, the video is automatically and temporarily downloaded onto the system drive. In this case, it will be your SSD if you are using one, this is called Buffering. It is played back on the flash player on the web, after you leave the video page, the buffer data is erased, wearing the cells in the SSDs. If your using a HHD, there is no need to worry, as cycles are not limited to buffer.

[CentricWarfare]

@Poshua92 so it is okay for me to use a SSD 40gb (Corsair Force 3) for boot drive ?

[bartat404]

@Poshua92 When data is erased it isn't "erased" it's marked as clear, which is a flag in the filesystem. The data still exists until something else writes over it. SSDs also employ wear leveling so it balances out all the cell usage in the SSD so no particular one dies first.

[Poshua92]

@bartat404

Of course you can, you might have a limited amount of applications to install on it though. I always recommend that you use a 500GB - 2TB HDD to go along for large applications such as the gaming applications like Steam Downloads etc.

[Amin7ty]

linus just woke up

[MUnitProductions]

X79 gd65 8D <3

[tibbernig]

Compared to ram, all ssds are slow.

[spyshocker]

Cinema 4d on task bar :-D

[chronofusion]

@edwinchw your comment has been flagged for spam. the intelligent people who have better things to do than to annoy or bug the shit out of linus for shit YOU COULD GOOGLE YOURSELF wtih the time you spend begging him for it......have flagged you for spam.

GOOGLE IT DUMBASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Haydenatorofwow]

Great, I wanted an SSD cache but I have P67. The Synapse is exactly what I am looking for.

[xxx69ajj69xxx]

Why was the librarian on the desk?

[ssoele]

You forgot to mention that OCZ Dataplex can be used on raid arrays and Intel SRT not.

[xDarKenneY]

is the two laptop that he built compared yet? :\

[SolisTechandGameplay]

I paused at 3:56 , and it looks like Linus is like "DAT ASS!"

[iXavierProductions]

laptop comparison please? <3

[Rawrfearmeh333]

U CHANGED TEH TITLE

[alex14469]

Right now I am taking a slightly different approach. OS is running of of a Vertex 3 120GB Max IOPS, games are running on my old 80GB Vertex 2 and since I only play 3 games, its more than enough. A WD Caviar black is used for storage like movies and pictures

[398700773]

It's it possible to make a ssd to read only the applications that you installed on it. For example, to have your computer read only windows, but writes things such as the "user" file or other data that needs constant writing on to a machincal hard drive???

[I5ZQ8]

Thumbs up for old school pron intro

[ThrashMetalForces]

@I5ZQ8 We've said that a million times.

[Teldara]

SSD is like the book instantly downloads into your eReader/Kindle/ETC without even going to the librarian.

[shinkji]

the video quality feels like as if its being film 4years ago... lol

[andyliew1997]

anyway ,the price of SSD still way to high not everyone can effort it .. doesn't worth it

[XequlixX]

...no sexy librarian thumbnail... you missed a golden opportunity

[1330pc]

I love trying to pick linus's nose with my mouse pointer.

[SelLeks]

@1330pc you realize everybody will try this. xD

[Intruder74]

@1330pc lmao, now that you mention it :p

[181jose]

@1330pc i find that amusing too :D

[adjerry91]

Now getting my first SSD I am totally sold with this option.

[0HippyHunter0]

These Obama commercials are unbelievable. Does anyone believe this shit?

[Hellstorm616]

@0HippyHunter0 lol it's the way it's always been-most Republicans live in a bubble not the real world

[0HippyHunter0]

@Hellstorm616 I believe he is a Democrat. I think the point I was trying to make was that his job numbers are complete horseshit. If you add up his numbers he's admitting to losing millions of jobs but making it sound like he's "creating" them.

[crackruckles]

I run a Adaptec maxCache™ 2405Q raid card with a 60GB OCZ SSD as cache. That is the best solution in my opinion as i can use what ever SSD i want and i can take the raid card to any system and use it there. However it is expensive and it does make the boot time much much longer but i don't turn my PC off anyway so i don't really mind.

[udontseemebutiseeyou]

can you set up srt on a partion of an ssd when you have other data on the rest of said ssd

[xsagradoxcorazonx]

this is awesome, think I might get this. :D

[Piisceiss]

srt ftw

[MrMVPAssassin]

awesome description

[MrEarnestBunbury]

My brain hurts...

[ledbrasil]

when i read @Cezarijus comment i was expecting the TV to fall of the wall...

[MrMVPAssassin]

@ledbrasil word....

[kickit246]

Thanks Linus I don't know this stuff as well as I would like, so I'm gonna watch this video a few times.

[patawic]

dat moment when im going to buy a 64gb ssd just for bf3, because i hate fucking load times

[TheYonderGod]

@patawic I did that (kinda; I also wanted other programs to load faster, but BF3 was the "tip of the iceberg") Right now I have windows 7, all of my programs, and BF3 installed, and I still have 25GB free :D

[MICHAELZHANG1997]

Linus now has ads....

[diablo1105]

If you can afford to buy an 2011 system (or a high end 1155 system) then you'd buy a dedicated SSD (128GB+) as your boot drive and not use SRT or any kind of caching feature.

[ELXIPOLISgames]

hmm..i really love your videos.have learned a lot but i still dont understand the half you say! are there any forums or books that explains everything you are talking about? #

[Mimonome]

@ELXIPOLISgames What topics are you having trouble comprehending? I am willing to help.

[Ndogg012]

@ELXIPOLISgames Google. :) It also helps to ask questions, no matter how simple. Even right here on Youtube. Someone is always bound to help.

[ELXIPOLISgames]

@Ndogg012 google ..what u say is right but there are so many sources and everyone has a completely different idea! so it doesnt really help it makes it more complicated! so i think is better contact with someone or find a forum so i can research the hole thg better

:D

[StaySic4Ever]

Ima w8 1TB SSD for ~$500 :).

[iSmackNoobies]

*Insert generic comment asking about water cooling part 3*

[froll1999]

WRT the the X79 chipset: they probably reckon that anybody able to afford a 300 dollar motherboard and a 500 dollar cpu is going to be buying a 128+GB SSD (or two for Raid0) as a system drive anyway. If I remember correctly you can only use SRT for the boot drive.

[gustav901]

What program are you using to masure the score?

[TyneGibbs12]

Where's the "NCIX Tech Tips" on the end of the title?

[MADdrummer971]

Makes me wana get a ssd right now.

[NicolSD]

ASUS X79 motherboards have their own SSD caching implementation.

[divex07]

OCZ is trash

[alexander92ck]

can u use this on a p67 chipset?

[lockley101]

Love all your vids,even built new one step by step while watching your vid

[kkreft1]

Good job. I like to watch your video. Poland watch you:)

[BarackMcBush]

Total Bullshit , "Caching software requires re-licensing upon hardware change" , So when you upgrade your computer ,You have to buy another key? No thanks ,I'll just buy a SSD and not worry about having to keep sending checks to OCZ.

[bagheadbaby]

umm does this mean it cant be done on a amd platform... ? :S

[fredfanhomie]

@bagheadbaby not with intel SRT, maybe you can do it with ocz synapse, but I'm not sure.

[murphy7801]

Does OCZ pay linus he bigs up there crap all the time



[bradscarfe1983]

@murphy7801 Short answer, yes.

[dli7319]

get a bigger table next to the librarian, 64 gigabytes is enough

[andruha11234]

@dli7319 if the computer is used for internet browsing only, yes. If it is actually used for work etc... that won't be close to enough.

I do a bit of work from home and my laptop's 500gb drive is 70% full.

[stickmatrix]

@andruha11234 SSDs are boot/os/important program drives. you use a hard drive for your data

[andruha11234]

@stickmatrix lets see... 15GBs for OS, 15GBs for Adobe Suite + few other programs and 64gbs are filled. Plus how do you install programs on your other HDD without it being a mess?

[Comeyd]

@andruha11234 symlinks! Do original install to hdd, copy what you want to ssd, and then symlink the path from ssd to hdd and tada!

[andruha11234]

@Comeyd that's pretty cool... you learn something everyday :D

[Comeyd]

@andruha11234 I bet a lot of it has to do with Microsoft not really making symlinks behave properly until Vista and not telling anyone... but NTFS junction points (symlinks) are awesome for working around things like that. (and for dropbox, original in dropbox, symlink to where it is supposed to be)

[take87chris]

@dli7319 get a bigger librarian...

[balisticjoe]

So a large SSD would be like having all the books on a table near the librarian, wouldn't that ruin the Dewey decimal system?

[fredfanhomie]

@balisticjoe The problem with that is you can't change your opinion on which books you want to have, even if you have that big space it isn't recommended to give any away. As he said, SSD's have limited write cycles, they are not meant to be storage drives, but you can perfectly use them as caching/OS drives.

[TheHenricus69]

Twistedsting

Crucial m4 128gb is a fast relaible drive, and works great!

I use one myself!

[Nvidia9700MGT]

00:14 in Belgium ¨__^ go to sleep ...

[RemX405]

This is a strange way to watercool...

[PsychedeliDuck]

I swear every single comment I read was either ascii art, or had mispelled words...

[thomasBLAKEINATORMAT]

Could you get an SSD and use it for your boot drive, but then use the leftover space for caching?

[Matticitt]

@thomasBLAKEINATORMAT no

[twistedsting]

I wan't to buy a Crucial 128 GB SSD soon

is it worth it?

is it good quality buy?

[ZinicFTW]

Along with a new, interesting intro, you should really just use a desktop screen recorder instead of filming the TV.

[BradSk88]

Really which you could synapse a non-boot drive.

I bought one of these a while ago assuming you could (didn't really say anywhere, I looked), so now I have to move my OS to a different drive in order for this to be worthwhile.

[nousername21]

You need a new intro...it's the year 2012 man...

[SoapNine]

@nousername21 Also last I checked, this wasn't porn.

[91fisher]

=/?

[ZinicFTW]

You need a more interesting intro like TheTechTips.tv

[malinko35]

ಠ_ಠ

[danisasuperbeast]

ok so i have a question... i have use hdd's all the time and i plan on getting my first ssd because i was told they are a lot faster, but what i want to do is install windows 7 on my ssd and then put all my downloaded stuff on a separate hdd. If i do this will the system still run faster then using a hdd as my os holder

[91fisher]

@danisasuperbeast Yes, but not with the ''SSD''' Linus had in the video.

[YonOtto]

What?

[Surveylol]

:()()()()()()8=======D

[h4xmode]

-.-

[vChipGivesThemSight]

wait, this got me confused. If I only run an SSD, for storage and everything, I can use any motherboard that I want, right?

[ch1ck3n08]

@vChipGivesThemSight Yes, SSD for regular use is supported by pretty much any mobo, altho sata 6gbps is recommended :)

[GameTester22]

i just stay with the ssd alone WTF to much

[MrTubbymurra]

(\__/)

(>'.'<)

(")_(")

[vb6magic]

>:(

[getsniped8]

().()

****

[liamslayer]

Interesting, love these videos, lots of valuable information presented by a well informed and understandable guy!

[BananaBean03]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[JoJoJo151990]

The transition is just... LOL ... :D

[Cezarijus]

Best example of catching i have ever heard. Good job Linus.

[nousername21]

@Cezarijus caching not catching