Thanks for the vid dwebb. I know you're right, hammer bounce is not uncommon, especially in hard recoiling revolvers. I've never had a cylinder turn, or get a double fire, but I've had double hits on one primer many times.
The "accidental double tap" was from inexperienced shooters firing this monster and then when it was making a b line towards their face they caught it and squeezed the trigger with their "oh shit death grip."
@Mchermsquatch You don't know what you are talking about. Watch the video of the girl that experienced it. It happens MUCH faster than a person can do with intent or thought. S&W recognized the issue and made adjustments to the design once they acknowledged the issue was real.
So what you're saying is that the shooter fired the pistol, then without squeezing the trigger a second time, the double action hammer cocked itself back and fired again...
@Mchermsquatch - Seriously, you still don't get it??? The person squeezing the trigger doesn't have time to stop squeezing. The gun literally runs away from, and outruns the trigger finger. By the time the palm of the hand slows the recoil, the trigger has reset. The finger, still trying to squeeze off the first shot, is now pulling the trigger on the second shot. It happens so fast the shooter doesn't even know what is happening. Do I need to draw you a picture?
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@dwebb210 If the shooter never releases the trigger then it is impossible for the trigger to reset. When the trigger is fully compressed the sear is all the way forward and clear of the catch on the hammer, the hammer WILL NOT lock itself to the rear on its own, only by manually cocking the hammer or releasing the trigger to reengage the sear. Not only have you shown your inexperience with firearms you have displayed a complete lack of logical thought. Read the S&W report.
@Mchermsquatch The shooter isn't actively releasing the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to run away from the trigger finger faster than the finger can keep up. The trigger does reset. The next shot is double action. The video clearly shows how this is potentially possible. The reason for the video was S&W's investigation into numerous reports of this happening. It is EXACTLY the same physics involved in bump-firing a rifle, but I wouldn't expect an uneducated dolt like you to understand.
@PowerTheQwerty Basically what's happening is the gun is going backwards faster than your finger does, causing the trigger to reset. Unfortunately, the finger is still going backwards when the palm catches the gun, causing the gun to go forward, forcing the trigger back.
@Mchermsquatch Think of bump firing, that's what happens with this very high recoiling gun, the trigger will reset during recoil, then the finger (Which is still rigid from the first shot) fires it again
Allow me to clarify this, if you don't understand how there is no recoil or how come the hammer isn't moving then you should not be on this video posting. Everyone should have something better to do other than look stupid by asking stupid questions like, "how does fire" and "why no move". Because you don't know anything about the term "SLO-MO".
Gotta laugh when reading the comments man you could spend all day trying to explain it, some folk are just too dim. Reminds me of the time I tried to tell a kid how a ship made of metal could float, I explained all about how it was hollow and inside was just air but in the end he just kept asking, "Yeah but how can metal float?"
if any of you expect to see recoil here then your an idiot fi yu saw recoil that means no shot on this planet could be accurate the bullet fly's out the barrel several milliseconds before the gun can even move backwards at all...
I'm willing to bet that if it is real, the reason you don't see the hammer move is because it had just fallen before the start of the video. The delay is the primer touching off, igniting the powder in the shell casing, then the blast from the cylinder gap, then the blast out the muzzle, then you see the muzzle begin to climb in the last few frames. Just my thoughts.
yeah thats true. you need to keep your fingers away from that heh =\ there is a lot of force coming out of there.. they show it on another vid ive seen here.. where he puts a carrot on the side
You can clearly see the pistol begin it's upward jump at the end of the video, also known as "Recoil" oh yea, some guy blew his thumb off firing a S&W500. by lining his second hand thumb along the side of the pistol "hoping" it would reduce the recoil, well he lost his thumb...
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thats a 500 mag there would have been much much more recoil then that i dont care how strong that guy is either computer generated or sumthing is rigged up so the gun cant move ....but i am goin with computer animated
I don't think you understand how slow this video is moving. There's plenty of recoil, but from start to finish there is less than half a second of real time passing here.
dude i know guns look at my page i shoot a gun just like this, i dont care how slow its going the recoil begins the second the bullet begins to move..that gun does not move up at all not an inch
Nice footage , I am going to attempt to do this with my S&W 500 /w Preformance Center barrel to see what the recoil compensator does to the gas as it exits the weapon.
I can't believe how stupid some of you are. Can you wrap your tiny little mind around how much the action has been slowed down? The trigger was pulled, the hammer fell, and the primer ignited the powder before this clip begins. Using a standard muzzle velocity for this cannon, do the math, and you will see that all of the action takes just a few MILLISECONDS.
@Ali3nat0r Are you forgetting that the bullet started at 0 ft/s and accelerated to 2000 ft/s? The average velocity in the barrel is probably less than 1000 ft/s. At any rate, the time period viewed in the clip is very very small.
@Ali3nat0r The bullet does stop accelerating once it's left the barrel. It starts at rest and accelerates to the muzzle velocity. The only point along the path of the barrel it is at the muzzle velocity is at the muzzle. Any place prior to that, and it is going slower. Go back an inch, it is slower than the muzzle velocity. Go back two inches, and it is slower still. Go back 8.75 inches, where it started, and it's velocity is zero.
@dwebb210 No. The moment the bullet leaves the barrel, the gas pressure behind it is still far in excess of the gas pressure causing drag in front of it, so it will be accelerating, even past the end of the barrel until the muzzle blast pressure is bled off to the point where it is providing the same effort on the rear of the bullet as the air drag is on the front of the bullet.
@dwebb210 The bullet continues accelerating until after it hits the target and stops. Remember acceleration is defined as a change in velocity or direction.
It starts slowing down out in the open atmosphere (change in velocity) and is also affected by gravity (change in direction) among other variables that are easily seen in longer ranges.
@Ali3nat0r dwebb is right...i think its like 2092 ft a second or something like that...i shot this for the first time at my friends house a couple days ago...our targets: pumkins....lets just say i wouldnt like to have been one of those pumpkins
The frame rate is extremely slow. You get a few seconds to watch the bullet travel from the cylinder through the barrel, which in reality takes a few milliseconds. The gun weighs several times more than the bullet, and hence will move a lot slower than the bullet. It was just getting started.
The frame rate is extremely slow. You get a few seconds to watch the bullet travel from the cylinder through the barrel, which in reality takes a few milliseconds. The gun weighs several times more than the bullet, and hence will move a lot slower than the bullet. It was just getting started.
I seriously doubt you could double tap a big S&W (especially in DA - the trigger pull is too heavy for that). I don't have a 500 (yet), but the SA trigger pull is very light on both my .460 XVR, and 629. Almost too light, unless you're used to it - but that won't allow for a double tap since you have to still have to pull the hammer back first...
Doing it unintentionally is very possible. It is a known issue with earlier models, and it has almost happened to me. Most people don't squeeze the trigger with only enough force to get the hammer to fall. Most squeeze a LOT more, especially when they are trying to hold on to the gun when it recoils. During recoil, the pistol actually outruns your trigger finger to the rear, and can actually reset the trigger, as happens in the video.
So your post regarding the shooter screwing up... Like I said, it was a known issue that S&W addressed and fixed. You can see in the video how possible it is, so don't blame the shooter.
Have you tried doing it on purpose? With a heavy revolver, can't you make it fire the most rapidly possible by relaxing and contracting your hand a little at the proper interval with the controlled trigger reset?
Not possible. The gun is too big and heavy, not to mention the gun is trying to knock you on your ass when it recoils. It ain't no rimfire. Give it a try.
Well, I have. After shooting a couple dozen rounds, and at the end of the day, I was getting tired and my hand was worn out. Squeezed off a round, and before I knew what happened, the hammer was half way back on the next round. After that, I decided it was best to not load the cylinder full. It would really suck to have an accident at the range.
you have to hold on tight to this one...which is hard towards the end of a full cylinder of hotties. i usually shoot my own reloads at 1/3 to 1/2 the power of a normal round. great for 50yard or so shots. i've got a few vids of 500 action shooting hotties.
I liked the part when the cat jumped of the roof.
BlickEnforcer 2 months ago
just market it as a 2 shot burst pistol... CA legal!
haha
shock312 3 months ago
Thanks for the vid dwebb. I know you're right, hammer bounce is not uncommon, especially in hard recoiling revolvers. I've never had a cylinder turn, or get a double fire, but I've had double hits on one primer many times.
NotElmerKeith 5 months ago
It's such slow motion and the clip cuts off early the recoil is after the bullet is long gone
MiniPeaceMaker 6 months ago
The "accidental double tap" was from inexperienced shooters firing this monster and then when it was making a b line towards their face they caught it and squeezed the trigger with their "oh shit death grip."
Mchermsquatch 8 months ago 4
@Mchermsquatch You don't know what you are talking about. Watch the video of the girl that experienced it. It happens MUCH faster than a person can do with intent or thought. S&W recognized the issue and made adjustments to the design once they acknowledged the issue was real.
dwebb210 8 months ago 11
@dwebb210
So what you're saying is that the shooter fired the pistol, then without squeezing the trigger a second time, the double action hammer cocked itself back and fired again...
You are a dipstick.
Mchermsquatch 6 months ago
@Mchermsquatch - Seriously, you still don't get it??? The person squeezing the trigger doesn't have time to stop squeezing. The gun literally runs away from, and outruns the trigger finger. By the time the palm of the hand slows the recoil, the trigger has reset. The finger, still trying to squeeze off the first shot, is now pulling the trigger on the second shot. It happens so fast the shooter doesn't even know what is happening. Do I need to draw you a picture?
dwebb210 6 months ago 15
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@dwebb210 If the shooter never releases the trigger then it is impossible for the trigger to reset. When the trigger is fully compressed the sear is all the way forward and clear of the catch on the hammer, the hammer WILL NOT lock itself to the rear on its own, only by manually cocking the hammer or releasing the trigger to reengage the sear. Not only have you shown your inexperience with firearms you have displayed a complete lack of logical thought. Read the S&W report.
Mchermsquatch 5 months ago
@Mchermsquatch The shooter isn't actively releasing the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to run away from the trigger finger faster than the finger can keep up. The trigger does reset. The next shot is double action. The video clearly shows how this is potentially possible. The reason for the video was S&W's investigation into numerous reports of this happening. It is EXACTLY the same physics involved in bump-firing a rifle, but I wouldn't expect an uneducated dolt like you to understand.
dwebb210 4 months ago 11
@dwebb210 ive read your argument....i still have no clue what the hell is going on..
PowerTheQwerty 4 months ago
@PowerTheQwerty Basically what's happening is the gun is going backwards faster than your finger does, causing the trigger to reset. Unfortunately, the finger is still going backwards when the palm catches the gun, causing the gun to go forward, forcing the trigger back.
Darkman2023 3 months ago
@dwebb210 Handloads, recoil setting off primer?
Shouldofstayedinbed 1 month ago
@dwebb210 I love it when people get busted for talking out of their asses. Thank you.
csmybuttt 1 month ago
@Mchermsquatch Think of bump firing, that's what happens with this very high recoiling gun, the trigger will reset during recoil, then the finger (Which is still rigid from the first shot) fires it again
308Sharpie 1 month ago
Call of duty Black ops revolver is more realistic than this
Chnswdchldrn 8 months ago
@Chnswdchldrn Goes to show , Reality can be more Fictional than video games....
razial36 8 months ago
@Chnswdchldrn Bullshit
MW2istheBOMB 8 months ago
@Chnswdchldrn thats impossible
saj12100 7 months ago
Need some wheels to haul around that hand held howitzer.
lurch6stringsdown 8 months ago
That's a big gun :0!!!!
BOXAXIU 8 months ago
After effects videocopilot
ManUnitedMedia 9 months ago
me likey
MC509 9 months ago
never saw the hammer hitting anythin
Franzlimones 10 months ago
Do you feel lucky, punk?
MohdAriffBinIshak 11 months ago 2
Wow fantastic video. I have shot this and the first time i did i took a step back. It's cool to see where all the felt energy comes from.
bashbros4344 11 months ago
watch video "full auto 500 S&W" to see what I think they were trying to document
After watching that and this I wonder if the SW folks know about that other vid.
dfwfly 1 year ago
very cool video
nganir 1 year ago
badass gun
Lord123881 1 year ago
no recoil hax =) i bet you play mw2
1000638 1 year ago
@1000638 u can see gun slowly moving up i mean the guns not gonaa be fully retracted before the bullets left the barrel
superduck76 1 year ago
omg he's doin a .500 s&w with won hand, it prolly smacked him in teh face
mdeslinger 1 year ago
I dont see now theres no recoil on a gun like that....?
Jasonbjamin 1 year ago
Allow me to clarify this, if you don't understand how there is no recoil or how come the hammer isn't moving then you should not be on this video posting. Everyone should have something better to do other than look stupid by asking stupid questions like, "how does fire" and "why no move". Because you don't know anything about the term "SLO-MO".
MAJ0ROCEL0T 1 year ago
One handed shot and no recoil. I don't get it.
99silverstone 1 year ago
No recoil? watch the first few seconds again. The gun even slides down in his hand. I swear people are such ignorant bags of unoriginal word vomit.
aaren117 1 year ago
I like that you can see the gun starting to move before his hand starts to move. Thats so badass.
Hyptosis 1 year ago
Gotta laugh when reading the comments man you could spend all day trying to explain it, some folk are just too dim. Reminds me of the time I tried to tell a kid how a ship made of metal could float, I explained all about how it was hollow and inside was just air but in the end he just kept asking, "Yeah but how can metal float?"
KnockoffNigeI 1 year ago
if any of you expect to see recoil here then your an idiot fi yu saw recoil that means no shot on this planet could be accurate the bullet fly's out the barrel several milliseconds before the gun can even move backwards at all...
123SupArman123 1 year ago
In the words of the Scorpio Killer from Dirty Harry..."My, Thats a big one!"
SecretService80 1 year ago
0:02 And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you're told to never grasp a revolver by the cylinder...
asimpleaccount 1 year ago
wow alot of energy Wasted.
nil1230 1 year ago
@nil1230
still is a lot of energy going into whatever you're hitting. (upwards of 3,000 ft/lbs of energy.)
grimtriggerman 1 year ago
@grimtriggerman no..a needs a longer barrell.
nil1230 1 year ago
was this filmed on mythbusters, and uve jus slowerd down their slow mo cam of it, curious???
PhilTheTrophyMan 1 year ago
I'm willing to bet that if it is real, the reason you don't see the hammer move is because it had just fallen before the start of the video. The delay is the primer touching off, igniting the powder in the shell casing, then the blast from the cylinder gap, then the blast out the muzzle, then you see the muzzle begin to climb in the last few frames. Just my thoughts.
RPHELPS922 2 years ago 12
Youre right, hes got the trigger all the way back from the start.
p4inmaker 2 years ago 2
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Totally FAKE,,, not ONLY the Lack of re-coil, but the Hammer NEVER changes position,
b679995 2 years ago
whats wrong with the recoil ?!?!?!
xtapodomanestra 2 years ago 5
it was so slow you cant see the gun lift up
neo19209 2 years ago 26
@neo19209 I like how you can shot that Smith & Wesson .500 with one hand and there's no recoil. That seems rather odd.
99silverstone 1 year ago
@neo19209 yh u can a bit
superduck76 1 year ago
lol
parkour720 2 years ago
yeah thats true. you need to keep your fingers away from that heh =\ there is a lot of force coming out of there.. they show it on another vid ive seen here.. where he puts a carrot on the side
D081 2 years ago 2
You can clearly see the pistol begin it's upward jump at the end of the video, also known as "Recoil" oh yea, some guy blew his thumb off firing a S&W500. by lining his second hand thumb along the side of the pistol "hoping" it would reduce the recoil, well he lost his thumb...
theWraith420 2 years ago
Yeah they "proved" this on Mythbusters using a chicken drumstick. Needless to say, you don't want to have your finger next to an explosion.
Buffalowdown 2 years ago
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thats a 500 mag there would have been much much more recoil then that i dont care how strong that guy is either computer generated or sumthing is rigged up so the gun cant move ....but i am goin with computer animated
arkangel8419 2 years ago
I don't think you understand how slow this video is moving. There's plenty of recoil, but from start to finish there is less than half a second of real time passing here.
mwuu 2 years ago 5
dude i know guns look at my page i shoot a gun just like this, i dont care how slow its going the recoil begins the second the bullet begins to move..that gun does not move up at all not an inch
arkangel8419 2 years ago
Nice footage , I am going to attempt to do this with my S&W 500 /w Preformance Center barrel to see what the recoil compensator does to the gas as it exits the weapon.
threebrained 2 years ago
awesome, got one just like it, shoots awesome but very expensive ammo :(
Lazarahly 2 years ago
lol some of you people are really dumb cant even understand how this works / bro this is a great video 5 stars
smokingsick7 2 years ago
man, I gotta say that this is one sick slow motion, the recoil almost cant be seen but you can see it a little at the end :)
Spawn223311 2 years ago
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he do not pull triger
darkemo1212 2 years ago
I can't believe how stupid some of you are. Can you wrap your tiny little mind around how much the action has been slowed down? The trigger was pulled, the hammer fell, and the primer ignited the powder before this clip begins. Using a standard muzzle velocity for this cannon, do the math, and you will see that all of the action takes just a few MILLISECONDS.
dwebb210 2 years ago 43
yeah what a douchebag
MisterDutchGuy 2 years ago
microseconds
freebones12321 2 years ago
@dwebb210 He's too troll to understand....
kikepapadrift 1 year ago
@dwebb210 Less than that... at nearly 2000 ft/s for this bad boy, the bullet's left the barrel in under 0.5ms
Ali3nat0r 1 year ago
@Ali3nat0r Are you forgetting that the bullet started at 0 ft/s and accelerated to 2000 ft/s? The average velocity in the barrel is probably less than 1000 ft/s. At any rate, the time period viewed in the clip is very very small.
dwebb210 1 year ago
@dwebb210 Fair point. :) I always thought that a bullet stops accelerating once it's left the barrel though but oh well
Ali3nat0r 1 year ago
@Ali3nat0r The bullet does stop accelerating once it's left the barrel. It starts at rest and accelerates to the muzzle velocity. The only point along the path of the barrel it is at the muzzle velocity is at the muzzle. Any place prior to that, and it is going slower. Go back an inch, it is slower than the muzzle velocity. Go back two inches, and it is slower still. Go back 8.75 inches, where it started, and it's velocity is zero.
dwebb210 1 year ago 6
@dwebb210 No. The moment the bullet leaves the barrel, the gas pressure behind it is still far in excess of the gas pressure causing drag in front of it, so it will be accelerating, even past the end of the barrel until the muzzle blast pressure is bled off to the point where it is providing the same effort on the rear of the bullet as the air drag is on the front of the bullet.
dinicthus 1 year ago
@dwebb210 The bullet continues accelerating until after it hits the target and stops. Remember acceleration is defined as a change in velocity or direction.
It starts slowing down out in the open atmosphere (change in velocity) and is also affected by gravity (change in direction) among other variables that are easily seen in longer ranges.
AngeredKabar 10 months ago
@Ali3nat0r, Actually, no. A bullet will accelerate some outside the muzzle--maybe 6 to 12 inches out, depending on the gun type, load, etc.
JesusDillinger 1 year ago
@Ali3nat0r dwebb is right...i think its like 2092 ft a second or something like that...i shot this for the first time at my friends house a couple days ago...our targets: pumkins....lets just say i wouldnt like to have been one of those pumpkins
playbaseball815 1 year ago
@darkemo1212 Those Smith & Wesson triggers are very slippery, mine is less than 2pounds.
YoshiFan100 1 year ago
@darkemo1212 press the numbers 1 and 9 on you keyboard back and forth and you can see the movement.
MisterLEM0NS 1 year ago
@darkemo1212 you do not spoke english
imiritu 11 months ago
and how can he able to hold that cannon in one hand?
MasterChiefxyba 2 years ago
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no recoil this is so bullshit
MasterChiefxyba 2 years ago
The frame rate is extremely slow. You get a few seconds to watch the bullet travel from the cylinder through the barrel, which in reality takes a few milliseconds. The gun weighs several times more than the bullet, and hence will move a lot slower than the bullet. It was just getting started.
dwebb210 2 years ago
It looks funky when you look at the hand, how it's not moving at first
VicariousReality7 2 years ago
That was sweet, but I'm impressed by the guy firing that beast with one hand!
xPhaseOne 2 years ago
thats gonna lower the fps but ill go the job..lol
Cman11999966 2 years ago
and that my freinds is why you never put your hands in front of the cylinder!
0Anynamewilldo0 2 years ago
Was it somehow fixed for the video? I didn't see any recoil, I couldn't hold a .357 steady like that. Don't think anyone can.
uglyonesRthebadguys 2 years ago
The frame rate is extremely slow. You get a few seconds to watch the bullet travel from the cylinder through the barrel, which in reality takes a few milliseconds. The gun weighs several times more than the bullet, and hence will move a lot slower than the bullet. It was just getting started.
dwebb210 2 years ago
I seriously doubt you could double tap a big S&W (especially in DA - the trigger pull is too heavy for that). I don't have a 500 (yet), but the SA trigger pull is very light on both my .460 XVR, and 629. Almost too light, unless you're used to it - but that won't allow for a double tap since you have to still have to pull the hammer back first...
randomstuff3201 3 years ago
Doing it unintentionally is very possible. It is a known issue with earlier models, and it has almost happened to me. Most people don't squeeze the trigger with only enough force to get the hammer to fall. Most squeeze a LOT more, especially when they are trying to hold on to the gun when it recoils. During recoil, the pistol actually outruns your trigger finger to the rear, and can actually reset the trigger, as happens in the video.
dwebb210 3 years ago
I inadvertently hit remove instead of reply.
So your post regarding the shooter screwing up... Like I said, it was a known issue that S&W addressed and fixed. You can see in the video how possible it is, so don't blame the shooter.
dwebb210 3 years ago
Have you tried doing it on purpose? With a heavy revolver, can't you make it fire the most rapidly possible by relaxing and contracting your hand a little at the proper interval with the controlled trigger reset?
stopglobalswarming 3 years ago
Not possible. The gun is too big and heavy, not to mention the gun is trying to knock you on your ass when it recoils. It ain't no rimfire. Give it a try.
dwebb210 3 years ago
double taps? cant imagine that with a 500.
i love my 500 and have never had anything close to a double tap after 3000+ rounds.
mikemikemofo 3 years ago
Well, I have. After shooting a couple dozen rounds, and at the end of the day, I was getting tired and my hand was worn out. Squeezed off a round, and before I knew what happened, the hammer was half way back on the next round. After that, I decided it was best to not load the cylinder full. It would really suck to have an accident at the range.
dwebb210 3 years ago
you have to hold on tight to this one...which is hard towards the end of a full cylinder of hotties. i usually shoot my own reloads at 1/3 to 1/2 the power of a normal round. great for 50yard or so shots. i've got a few vids of 500 action shooting hotties.
mikemikemofo 3 years ago
weapon is good,but your hand should to be smashed!
delividyocu 3 years ago