Andrew Bostom on Fox News O'Reilly Show 10 May 2006

[MojaveViper29]

Islam at its core is an evil ideology which has brought only suffering and impoverishment to humanity.

[ritamalik]

MUSLIM LIAR!!!!! Who cares the word "Harb al Muqaddas" or "holy war" as such doesn't appear in Quran! Jihad WAS the word that was used when the context meant "holy war"!!! On the contrary the word "Jihad al Akbar" or the so-called "greater Jihad" is NEVER EVER used in Quran and it is based on one single very very weak hadith and that's why most serious Muslims and scholars when they are not trying to fool infidel audience don't give much if any credence to that phony notion of "inner Jihad"!!

[boliusb]

as in, the arabs may not know about the history of the romans giving it the name, and the phillistines. but they've said themselves that there are no palestinians and no palestinian nation.. and it's not palestine(meaning it's just a foreign name). It was only ever a name for a region anyway.

[boliusb]

so was just a foreign name for a region, never for a people. Arabs have said this in the past. An old video of pro arab anti israel Azmi Bishara is on youtube saying it watch?v=P3n5-yG-6dU the arab historian Phillip Hitti saying itin 1946 at a commission of inquiry.. Infact the name was given by the roman emporer Hadrian taken from an old enemy of the jewish people non-semitic sea people, and enemy of the biblical god.Not from the people of the time but a name of a people in the bible

[boliusb]

The name Palestine was given by the Romans(foreign people), when they took over and destroyed Israel and exiled much of the Jews(Am Yisrael), those known as the people of Israel. Those remaining genetic studies suggest, converted to christianity and in later years to islam. Foreign people called it Palestine on their maps but not the people living there until modern zionism, and the early 20th century. Then the arabs couldn't pronounce P so Filastin.

[boliusb]

Nobody is bothered by chinese nationalism. White nationalists or white nationalism, seem to be full of haters, and have a terrible history.. and you'll be heavily opposed by liberals. Even AMREN whose leadership is moderate, has AFAIK, associations with neo nazis.

[boliusb]

What's your source for saying America was founded for white people only? and are there demographic predictions that worry you re chinatown? america is huge, they can't be such a presence chinatown must be like less than 1%. Is it expanding?

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - "What's your source for saying America was founded for white people only?"

All Founding Fathers were White.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

Founded by white people but no source for it being only -for- white people.The idea of it being for any race color or creed, goes at least as far back as the 15th amendment.I do not have a problem with whites having a state with a birth control program on others.You have trouble because you can't convince people, people are too liberal to accept it. The problem is liberals not jews, and your inability to convince people and take power anywhere democratically for a white state.

[boliusb]

I don't think it should be America, America was not founded with that "dream". But there are lots of European countries around. Somebody need only convince one of those.. People that want to mix can leave it, people that want to stay within and maintain the "white race" can go there. One of your major problems, is white nationalism went as far as exterminating others, terrible racism, so people are wary of it in a way that they are not so wary of black nationalism.

[catothewiser]

Jews are fixated on enslaving non-Jews - let's look at their holy texts:

You shall suck the milk of nations, you shall suck the breast of

kings; and you shall know that I,

the LORD, am your Savior and your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.

Isaiah 60:16

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

utter idiot! Think a bit. That's more about jews being enslaved and having to live under them. Like Dhimmis have to get protection from Muslims.. Jews in exile had to live under the protection of other Kings. It's not a good position to be in you wolly. But now Jews have set up a new state and can defend themselves like any other country. And if you attack Israel, they won't suck your breasts, they'll shoot bullets through it.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - no it is about how the Jews have acted throughout history and why they usually end up kicked out of nations because of their parasitic nature. So, ALL those nations that kicked them out were wrong and not the Jews? What would Occam's Razor tell you is the problem? What is the common link?

BTW, where is the White homeland? Or do only Jews get one (paid for by US tax dollars)?

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

Jews were mostly or only kicked out of Christian countries, And in terms of persecution, Muslim countries treated Jews and Christians as second class, and didn't persecute either more or kick Jews out. And India, neither Christian nor Muslim, but Hindu, Jews were fine.The common link, is Christianity before american evangelical christianity. And the common link with persecution,which affected Christians too, is replacement theology.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

There are loads of white homelands, if you didn't allow immigration into places like Norway, you have many countries that are mostly white. Though you still have many countries mostly white. Even Britain in the country side which is the majority of it. That's if you want to call white people a nation , but I don't know what history white people share. Is Christianity the religion of the white man? it's from the Middle East and your man-god and the disciples and paul were Jews.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - Look up "Barbara Spectre" it isn't WHITES who are allowing the immigration. You will find Jews behind that just like you find them deeply involved in any nation-destroying endeavor whether it be porn, drugs, or any other form of degeneracy.

You are right, Whites need to reject that foreign, Middle Eastern religion of Christianity - it does not serve White people.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

I am a Jew  Got a problem with that? Tough. Jews are also disproportionately into Medicine, and Science, and academia and Nobel Prizes and successful businesses that create employment opportunities and great web innovations like Google and Facebook . These are not nation destroying endeavours. I wouldn't say Whites should reject Christianity, I think it's a positive thing and if you're worried about degeneracy, Christianity is a great weapon against it.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

Liberals pushed for immigration in the name of multiculturalism, and most still do, and a lot of Jews are secular liberals.. but obviously the majority of liberals are gentiles, and that includes the majority of powerful liberals. And they are notoriously bad for Jews and like everybody else are just in it for themselves. But 80% of orthodox jews voted republican. There are big differences amongst Jews.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - Republicans are pro-immigration, too. So no points scored there. I know your game, sayaanim.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

I don't know what game you're talking about or what language you're signing off with or what you think you're saying. I'm British but I know republicans are more patriotic,democrats more leftist. All I said re a white homeland, is that some country or countries somewhere could be used.American immigration should be very controlled,but not closed,it's a great country for people of any background to come and fulfill the american dream. The black republican candidates are fantastic

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - You want to say they are fantastic because you think it gets you a star from the PC police. What is great about that consummate liar West? Joining the CBC and voting for Pigford?

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

Why I think he's great? Well, I heard him speaking about the threat of islammic terrorism a few times, and get challenged on it, and he's given really well informed answers full of relevant dates and facts straight from memory. And saw him served a trick question and got right to the nub of the issue on it. So on the threat of islammic terrorism, and its basis, he is brilliant.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - the largest threat, nearly the entire threat, of Islamic terrorism comes from immigration and travel. Fighting wars in foreign countries while allowing people to come to this country not only doesn't help, it jeopardizes us more. West is a Sambo when it comes to Israel - a puppet. These wars in the Middle East are not only endangering us, our troops, and destroying us financially (like the USSR was - remember?) but the only nation benefiting is ISRAEL.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

America is going to be in danger because islammic terrorists want the world, and America is more than just a country, it's an idea, a concept, that people can come and have liberty and engage in the persuit of happyness, and America is a huge power.. whereas Muslims want the Caliphate to be a huge power, and they want people drawn to the Islammic way of life, not the American or Western way of life.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser America is a western country or nation that really believes in its way of life. It's a beacon of freedom because its population believes in it and its huge and strong and Islam knows that. If America went down, they'd say it was a sign from Allah. Islamists all over the world call America the big satan, and Israel the little Satan. Pew Polls and others show that populations in the arab world are full of islamists and ask any muslim they want Islam to rule the world.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - America would not even be on Muslim's minds - much like they don't care about Brazil and most other countries - if we were not supporting Israel. Perhaps China needs to create a "homeland" in the US for the Tibetans for you to "get" what the Palestinians are going through.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

I suppose if America pulled out of the middle east, and left others to fight the muslim brotherhood, it's like if the allies hadn't faught Nazi Germany.. you need the strongest in on the job really. If all the good guys hide away, it may just grow and come knocking on America's door when it's big.. or they may just knock out Israel and India and make America a first target. Parts of Europe may become eurabia. in the future

[catothewiser]

@boliusb Jews like Barbara Spectre are pushing immigration in to Europe.

The Allies were dupes of the international bankers (who supported the Bolsheviks). How did their countries fare? The US was ok while the rest of the world was in flames but the US is on the fast track to destruction now that the banksters have used the US for what they wanted and now are de-industrializing it.

One need only ask who the ONE group is that is allowed to have their own country to see who is behind it.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

If the economy has an issue i'd see what expert analysts are saying, and from what I understand, people auditing the banks messed up, maybe they weren't independent.. banks gave loans to people that couldn't pay them back. Jews were in banking in the past, historic reasons like occupations jews were allowed were limited, and christians wanted jews to manage finance. Nowadays Jews aren't so into banking. There are probably more Jewish doctors than bankers.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

If anybody is pushing immigration, or too much immigration, they're obviously suicidal humanists, / dumb extreme liberals, that kind of person. So there should be laws dealing with them.. whether jewish or not, a disproportionate number of -secular- Jews have this problem unfortunately.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

Also, it's not good if any time muslims don't like your foreign policy, they attack you, it's better to deal with them.. they don't even like it when a cartoon is drawn.. on the subject of america pulling out, I think that might be more dangerous than it being there, it's all risky stuff. At least here America knows more about networks of islamists while it's in the middle east. It has good intelligence which helps a strong america.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - why don't we, for once, have a foreign policy that Israel doesn't like and see what happens? You realize Israel was founded with terrorism and ethnic cleansing, don't you? Look up the "Irgun" and the "Stern Gang" and the King David Hotel bombing incident. Funny that the media seems to "forget" these events.

Don't like it when a cartoon is drawn? A cartoon lambasting JEWS isn't even allowed to be published!

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

When I said the muslims getting mad about cartoons.. I didn't mean any cartoon. Obviously Nazis used cartoons, terrible propaganda.. cartoons can be racist and full of hatred. Mohammed with a bomb on his head, just making fun of a religious figure. They got mad because sharia says you can't draw mohammed. Jews don't expect or ask gentiles to keep the sabbath or kosher.. and Jews , like christians, don't riot of somebody makes a joke about Moses.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - if it is ok for a Mohammed cartoon it is certainly ok for a cartoon with a hook-nosed, greedy Jew.

"Jews don't expect or ask gentiles to keep the sabbath or kosher" - they don't have to - go to the grocery store. I bet 90+ percent of the items are "Kosher." All a big shakedown scheme.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

You want to say Nazi propaganda cartoons are ok? The fact is, it's not an analogy. A cartoon of mohammed with a bomb on his head, is analogous to a cartoon of moses maybe in a tank, if israel is in a war. What muslims got mad at was that mohammed was drawn, that's why there was the south park fiasco.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

In the King David Hotel incident,I believe the Irgun's side that they warned beforehand for the building to be emptied, and the response they got was they don't take orders from Jews or they don't take orders from the Irgun.I am not sure precisely what the targets were.. whether usually they were just installations, and in any bombing there were a few casualties. *Not maximising casualties*. And I believe in the cause.. of...a)creating jewish state b)ending the white paper

[boliusb]

the terrorism we see today, has as a goal to take over the world, re-establish the caliphate(that means they can launch jihad with less conditions!),what we see now is just "defensive jihad" where they need to find excuses for it. they want to maximise casualties.It's targetted at innocents, they'd never warn people beforehand for example.They celebrate the more are killed. It's like guns, or torture or any violence.. I wouldn't condemn it outright. But don't equate all uses as equal.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - its ok to bomb if there is a warning?

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

"its ok to bomb if there is a warning?" All i'm saying is that there's an enormous difference in terms of how bad it is, since the many things I mentioned. For example, islamists try to maximize casualties, the irgun didn't, and islamists want ta world islammic state and already have lots of islammic states. Jews had no state and just wanted the one and so on, so there's no comparison morally.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - Why can't Whites have a state? Whites can't even have their own neighborhoods. And this is because of Jews. More wake up every day to this.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

there was a huge massacre of jews in hebron in 1929 and I think that sparked off the creation of those groups, to defend jews. Also, if they did target british soldiers, then i'd bear in mind that a)arabs killed far more british and all over the middle east..

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

b)america faught the British for independence and I suppose rightly so c)The British Govt in the late 30s and maybe aerly 40s, limited Jewish immigration when Jews were fleeing for their lives. maybe cost 100,000s lives. and as mentioned, other points like I don't believe they tried to maximize casualties.. they faught for a jewish state not to destroy a state.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - they destroyed the state of Palestine to create their Jewish state.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

this is very untrue. Jews was no sovereign state of Palestine, never was. Palestine was just te name of a region. The people living there never called it that. Pre Britain ruling it, it was just part of the Ottoman Empire, part of Syria. Just an area ruled by Turkey like the rest of the Ottoman Empire. When do you think Jews destroyed "palestine"?

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - Israel was never a state until the UN creation, either. So what is the difference?

There are maps showing the region as "Palestine."

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

"Israel was never a state until the UN creation, either. So what is the difference? There are maps showing the region as "Palestine.". Israel was, Jews(Am Yisrael) have been a sovereign nation in Israel twice already in history. Palestine is a foreign name, the people of that land never considered themselves palestinian or called it palestine until the early 20th century, so post-dates modern Zionism There were many ethnic groups in the ottoman empire but no "palestinians"

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

"Perhaps China needs to create a "homeland" in the US for the Tibetans for you to "get" what the Palestinians are going through" Both China and Tibet have been sovereign states in the past, and side by side. I don't thin keither china or tibet are analogous to the Israeli Palestinian issue.. And the people of Tibet identify with Israel.. The Jews have always identified as Am Yisrael, and named that land after themselves and were a sovereign nation there. "Palestinians" weren't

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

If America and the west doesn't fight islammic terrorism, then islammic terrorists will take it as cowering away, and America will be a target as long as it is strong an as long as it exists. Every westernized country benefits when the west fights islamist terrorism. But, Islamized Arab countries benefit from a weak America and a weak West , that allows lots of islamists with a weak immigration policy.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

As to the idea of ensuring America is majority white, I think there are better places for that than America, but for any country, to ensure it is majority a certain ethnicity or nationality, or race, it's really difficult even impossible to do it morally, when there's already a large immigrant population with a high birthrate. It'd require a birth control program or deporting people.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser If a region was created as a white homeland, then it's paramount the regime isn't dumb enough to allow mass immigration of other ethnicities, certainly not for permanent residence. If it was dumb enough to do that, then maybe it's acceptable for a later regime to deport them. and very very good to if they wanted to destroy that white homeland. But America wasn't founded as that. All that can be done morally, is discriminating based on American values.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - America was founded by and for White people. What are you talking about? Blacks weren't even counted as people - OFFICIALLY!

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

any source for america founded for whites only or whites in pariticular? do you reject the fifteenth amendment about race color and creed? are demographers predict even a 3% chinatown? america is so huge perhaps it's not such a problem. Is it expanding? like going to double within the next 50 years? is this first generation only? I doubt that most chinese born in America will still understand chinese after a few generations.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

On CBC, that could just be he is showing he cares about black people, that's fine with me. Certainly seeing him shaking hands with Jesse Jackson Jr, isn't such a good sight, but hearing him speak, how principled he is, I don't think that'd mean he'd be led to doing some immoral deal with him.I can understand him wanting the black community to not see him as somebody very alien to them On pigford, I just looked it up,he said it was a mistake n he'll have to take it in the shorts

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - you are no different than an Obama supporter that thinks speaking is what matters. Neither Obama's nor West's words match their actions.

So, what do White politicians do to show they care about White people?

If you think his vote on Pigford was a mistake it clinches what I said about you being naive.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

I don't know enough about american politics to analyse Allen West's voting record, but he encourages people to, and it's on his site, and he got called out on the pigford thing, so people have their eye on him, and I don't see him being called out on much. In contrast, Obama threw up red flags in his biography, and his islamized anti-american church.

[boliusb]

@catothewiser

Most of America is white, and most of their interests seem to be based on what they believe is moral and immoral and what America is So these aren't really white interests, but interests of good american citizens. Like "chinese americans", don't have leaders like al sharpton or farakhan or anti american institutions.

[catothewiser]

@boliusb - Chinese have leaders, organizations, ENTIRE REGIONS where the signs are in THEIR language.

[bhigr]

Get Andrew Bostom's book: The legacy of Jihad.

[blogegog]

It seems strange that O'Reilly didn't even know about Morocco being part of the earliest recorded jihad against America.

Is he just being an apologist, or does he really not know about the barbary pirates?

[madams99]

Uh, Morocco was the first country to recognize the United States as a nation (even before France).

I think you might be thinking about the Barbary Pirates, who operated in what is now Tunisia and Algeria.

[blogegog]

I'm under the impression that the pirates operated out of Morocco, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria.

Are you pretty sure of your facts? (I'm not sure of mine). Oh well, I guess it's time for me to hit the history books.

[blogegog]

This is from wikipedia for 'barbary pirates'

"Morocco, which in 1777 was the first independent nation to publicly recognize the United States, became in 1784 the first Barbary power to seize an American vessel after independence."

[modelfan1979]

It is strange but not totally suprising. Remember, that besides Rupert Murdoch and his family, the largest owner of shares of Newscorp and thus Foxnews is a Saudi Arabian prince, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

So he may have been misinformed or deliberately not informed on the subject of Islamic imperialism.

[Sabyalk]

VIOLENT Verses recorded in Medina which ABROGATE the peacefully Suras recorded prior in Mecca ... made them NULL & VOID!

Most "moderate" Muslims have never heard of the "DOCTRINE OF ABROGATION!"

How can an "all-knowing" god makes so often mistakes and abrogate verses? It is like a human who learns how to live!

[Sabyalk]

"... SEIZE them and SLAY them wherever ye find them" Q.4:89

This sura agrogates many of the first peacefully verses/suras.

[faro0485]

Is it me... or do you also feel that Andrew Boston and friends could be in pay of the terrorist groups (al qaida and what not)?

[dilbertgeg]

1. Oreilly "I will give you a full minute" = 20 seconds.

2. US foreign policy has been to overtly and covertly SUPPORT radical Islamic Jihadists, for the same reasons as support Pol Pot and Nazis -- to destabilize socialism and liberal democracy, install totalitarian govts. ck Wikipedia on Zbigniew Brzezinski. Proud of it.

3. In US, moderate Christians marginalized in favor of radicals Christian kooks aligned w fascist Rev. Sun Moon.

4. Google KLA kosovo Republican Policy Zawahiri

[SHMUJEW]

Oreilly is an idiot, but at least he presents these subjects to the public. We must defeat the enemy , Islam, and rip out their living guts and use them to grease the wheeels ofour tanks.

[Captainkirky]

That really is a worrying point of view to have. I hope you don't really feel that violence is an answer, and I hope more that others that read your comment aren't persuaded.

[SHMUJEW]

what are you going to do ? give them flowers .....you dumb jerkweed

[SHMUJEW]

yeah oreillys high school understanding ....yeah Im really going to listen to that

[dilbertgeg]

A few years ago Americans wanted to NUKE MECCA.

A few weeks ago, Bush offered nuclear technology (peaceful, of course) to the govt of Saudi Arabia and it's energy sector. This despite the fact of even Saudis and FBI and others saying that Prince Abdullah and other Saudi royals collaborate w Al-Qaeda. But then the CIA and Pentagon collaborated w Al-Qaeda too, like in Kosovo and Bosnia.

So i guess it's just one big happy family.

[Foreversending]

assholes!

[jrkhan123]

According to evangelical christian beleives, when Jesus comes for the second time. Then all people (including their now *favorites* Jews of Israel) who do not beleive in Jesus as their lord will not be saved and probably roasted in HELL for eternity. This is the greatest form of Anti-Semitism and terrorism, much worse than what Hitler practised.

[dericwise]

so have a passive doctrinal point of view--however silly-- is worse than torturing and murdering 6 million human beings: men, women and children? riiiiight.

[DrWaSaBe]

O reilly: mr.younis im gona give u a full minuit to talk

....

in reality he gave him 6:23-6:51= 28secs

in total u can clearly see the dr is talking alot more, and he knows shit about islam, and mr.yousif is right, those verses are SPECIFIC! and yes, jihad but not in such a way, GO READ SOME MORE BEFORE U JUDGE...

[courseworkdue]

for once i thought O reilly was fair.

wow. theres something i never thought id say.

[mchi16]

2 aganist one oh yea real fair and balence