Biblical & Quranic approach to Peace & Violence Shabir Ally & John Gilchrist- 4 of 9

[islamfalse]

Muhammad did not have any saintly qualities like the prophets of the bible.. He didn't practice what he preached.!The bible describes muslims in 2 Cor 4:4 read it if you can!

[trainhard3]

@islamfalse

On the contrary, if you read the stories of Ibrahim and Musa(Moses) and rest of the prophets peace and blessings be upon them, you will see the likeness of what they taught. Muhammed(pbuh) practiced and preached the same thing what they did in all those time

[123dsj123]

@trainhard3 Let us know this mush: No human being apart from Muslims believe Jesus did not die. This erroneous claim that Jesus did not die is based solely on a book written and compiled 600 to 700 years later by a man who did not live, and had not been at the place of the incidence (Jerusalem). Muslims gives no independent or historical sources to collaborate their claims that Jesus did not die. That is why no serious student of history turns to Muslims or the Quran for historical accuracy.

[islamfalse]

How can any sane human being follow a man who had 9 wifes and claim he was the greatest prophet!Look at my Jesus he was sinless he is the one muslims must follow...

[hadid1ahke]

@islamfalse

Yes, we Muslims must follow Jesus when he returns, but as a man, not as God which many Christians believe. How can Jesus be God when he maid it clear in John 5:37 that nobody has ever seen God's shape or heard his voice. So how could he be God when the people could see him and hear his voice? Also, U insult Mohammed for having many wives, yet your own bible does not prevent a man from having more than one wife. Abraham, David, Solomon, etc. Read Deut 21:15-16, 2 Samuel 12:8, etc.

[hadid1ahke]

@islamfalse

2nd, how can any SANE man worship Jesus as God when he did not know that the fig tree did not have any fruit on it? God knows everything as mentioned in Isaiah 40:28. Also, Jesus does not know when will be the day of judgment. Who did he pray to if he was God? Why do you attempt to insult Islam before learning your own religion?

[Logia1978]

@islamfalse

You can, if you know a bit of ethnology and knew that was common on that time when people were living only less than 40 years....

Learn history and everything will be alright...

[islamfalse]

Haha!This shows he didn't practice what he preached!!Great prophet indeed!!

[islamfalse]

Prophet Muhammad was a great rold model for muslims!He had 9 Wives When the Rule Says 4 Only!

[hadid1ahke]

@islamfalse

1st, to clear up your confusion, you only need to read the quran. 33:50 O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses...& daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, & daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; & any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large)....

[hadid1ahke]

@islamfalse

2nd, Surah 33:50 shows that Mohammed could have more wives than the rest of the muslim men. But, you failed to notice the exceptions that apply to his wives as well. The wives of Mohammed are known as Mothers of the Believers 33:6). Also, Mohammed could not divorce his wives (33:52), but other muslim men could (33:49). Mohammed's wives could not remarry after his death, but other muslim women can. Mohammed's wives receive twice the punishment for lewdsess than other women (33:30).

[hadid1ahke]

@islamfalse

3rd, unlike other muslim men, Mohammed could spend time with his wives in any order her chose, whereas, other Muslims must divide their time equally among their wives. 33:51 Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. The family members of Mohammed could not receive zakat payments, but the other muslims and their families could.

[acerb45666555]

12:31.......once again i hear the term, "Idol Worshipper".......no one worships an idol, the image is only used as a direct line to whatever diety the image represents!

[got2sho]

@acerb45666555 nobody actually knows how the"whatever diety'' looks like. ergo when they represent it with an image, ergo whenever they pray they thinks of that image, ergo they worship idols, ergo ''IDOL WORSHIPER'' .

actually the Cross and the Man ''Jesus'' also falls into the category of idols. it is wrong even if you are a Christian to represent your god in such symbols.

[hadid1ahke]

@acerb45666555

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God..." -Exodus 20:4,5

[hamadhsn1]

Shabir Ally knows the topic perfectly! May ALLAH bless him

[jihadulnafs]

love shabir ally , may allah grant all muslims paradise inshallah

[lakshubidak]

ABBROGATION FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM ( AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND)

verse 84-85:

After this it is ye, the same people, who slay among yourselves, and banish a party of you from their homes; assist (Their enemies) against them, in guilt and rancour; and if they come to you as captives, ye ransom them, though it was not lawful for you to banish them. Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, AND DO YE REJECT THE REST? ...

[MuslimahUnity]

I wish I could be as wise as Shabir Ally

Walahi he is blessed.

[Qazishakir]

@MuslimahUnity the best way is traid your kids that way and try to make them think in islamic way:)

[MuslimahUnity]

Yes I agree completely :)

[fghtupx]

@MuslimahUnity I actually met him a few times while he was in Holland last year. I can say that he has a lot of knowledge and is a very sereen, calm and generous man. I was sitting in the same car with him and had about an hour to ask all sorts of questions about Judaism. Which by the say he answered all!!

[MuslimahUnity]

Damn, if I had meet him, i'd trip lol

I think he is so smart

And he's not iggnorant you know?

He has answers to many questions in a very nice, gentle and caring way

[fghtupx]

Good friend of mine is Jewish and after studying the basics of islam this person had some questions like: why do the Jews have the Sabbath and muslims the Jumu'ah etc. And like I said. I met Shabir ally, (alhamdulillaah) he gave the answers with clear evidence from the Qur'an and the Sunnah and it was completely logical. Even my friend was very satisfied with the given answers. So brother Ally is someone who I admire and love very much. I really appreciate what he's doing.

[jihhn]

Shabir Ally is one of the best debater of islam right now.

[Nakdimon316]

I see my comments have been removed as a rebuttal to abcnana100. So thats how things go down, right? you debunk the muslim and he removes your comment to look good. But its all good. I know you have my comment in your inbox.

[naliakbar]

when did i remove a comment from here? sorry my friend you are mistaking, i didnt if you didnt post your comment, or youtube didnt register it then dont blame me.

the only comments i may consider removing is those with obscene language, and sometimes i leave it when i get tired and block that person so there is proof as to why i blocked them.

so i suggest you repost your comment and stop accusing me of something i didnt do.

[unitedfrendz]

That is and unfounded and wild accusation. Those comments which failed to post occurs very often here in u-tube....or is it ur first time here?

UR accusation proves immaturity state of the your mind.How do you think that people will judge ur comments simply for the lack of basic manners?

If u are sincere, u should apologise to that.

[Nakdimon316]

Of course he you will be able to deliver the proof for Uhud, but at Uhud the Meccans just retaliated for the Muslim violence at the caravans raids of Nakhla and particularly Badr. All the violence of Muhammad and the Mulsims are just sugarcoated. Listen to Gilchrist's truthful recap of the Christian unscriptural violence and Ally's total twisting of the Islamic scriptural violence.

[abcnana100]

FIRST SUICIDE ATTACK ACCORDING TO BIBLE

Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

{WHAT IT PROOF}[IT PROOF THAT SAMSON WAS FIRST SUICIDE ATTACKER IN THE HISTORY]

[Nakdimon316]

Again u are runnin ur mouth without thinking. Notice that Samson could not have done what he did without God's power. So this shows that there is no question that he had Gods backing. But any illminded lunatic nutcase can strap a bomb around his waist and blow himself up in a crowd of INNOCENT PEOPLE (the philistines werent innocent!) and claim he is acting for God. You dont need Gods power to do that. U only have to be crazy and stupid enough to do such a thing just like ur Muslim mujahideen.

[Garubolas]

muslim mujahadeen terrorist is not a story in our quran. Samsoon the suicide killer is in your bible. Every religious killer says they got their strength and inspiration from God. What did Moses said when he supposedly ordered the massacre of the inhabitans of Canaan?

[MuslimahUnity]

So what are you trying to say?

He's lieing??

[Nakdimon316]

Correct! He at least misrepresents the Islamic sources who are unanimous on this. If ur sources say that Muhammad and the Muslims initiated the attacks with the sole purpose 2 kill the people of the caravans and steal their goods, and u deliberately turn it around 2 make the victims the agressors, then u are lying. There is no two-ways about it. He is contradicting the sources he has been studying all his live 2 make Islam look good. If that is not lying (at least misrepresenting) then what is?

[Garubolas]

Quraish became the enemy of muslims when they tortured and killed early muslims in Mecca.And prevent them from practising. To seize their caravan would deal a blow to thier resources at times of war.

[Nakdimon316]

Oh MAN, Shabir made the whole thing up! He appealed to the biographies that the Meccans attacked Muhammad. NOTHING IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. The Biographies tell us that the "armies" were CARAVANS, with which the meccans did BUSINESS TRADE! Muhammad didnt attack armies, but business men, who followed a TRADE ROUTE, that led past Medina. MUHAMMAD ATTACKED! He defended nothing. I challenge anyone to bring the proof from the biographies that supports anything Shabir said about either Badr or Uhud.

[abcnana100]

KILL EVERYTHING SAFE VIRGIN FOR YOURSELF{BIBLE}

Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Numbers 31:33 And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,

Numbers 31:35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

[Nakdimon316]

Do you even know the context of these commandments? These were the people whose women enticed the Israeli men with sexual avances and lied with them and caused them to follow other gods. Thats why only the women that DIDNT entice the Israeli men (i.e. the virgins) were spared! Dont be an ignoramus by parroting other Muslims without investigating the matter for yourself. If you had done some investigation you would have been spared this humiliation. How about sex with minors in the Quran (65:4)?

[MuslimahUnity]

@Nakdimon316

Shabir is is a muslim scholor

I doubt he's wrong

I think that your the one with the wrong facts

He has studied Islam all his life.

[Nakdimon316]

Well Shabir should study his sources more carefully. Who harrassed Muhammad at Nakhla, the first robbery since Muhammad went to Medina? Let me quote you the words of Ibn Ishaq, who chronicles the event:

"Muhammad summoned the Muslims and said, 'This is the Quraysh caravan containing their property. GO OUT AND ATTACK IT. Perhaps Allah will give it to us as prey." (Ishaq 289)

HE attacked the Quraish, NOT the otherway around. At Badr he would repeat this. attacking a caravan, not an army!

[Garubolas]

Muhammad was hassed ever since he said there is One God and everything else they worshipped were pagan idolatry. Much like when Jesus went to the temple on the pilgrimage and took on teh temple folks. Since then he became public enemy #1, but with Gods aide he prevailed

[Nakdimon316]

MuslimahUnity, that is what is troubling to me. He is a scholar that studied Islam all his life and misrepresents the sources to make Muslims look innocent and the others the aggressors, yet the opposite is true. Nakhla was prompted by the Muslims. Badr was prompted by the Muslims. Uhud was prompted by the Meccans (retaliation for Badr). The breach of Hudaybiya (which prompted the Conquest of Mecca) was prompted by the Muslims. If u dont believe me: What was the livelihood of the muslims?

[Garubolas]

Badr happended because teh quraished failed to assssinate teh Prophet and he fled to Medina, Then The Quraish decided towipe out the muslims because of their growing threat to the idol worshipping businessin Mecca. Uhud is Quraish revenge for Badr

[xiaahmad]

Shabir Ally Rocks

[MoslimKid2009]

Thanks for uploading. Happy ramadan naliakbar.

[naliakbar]

Ramadhan Kareem, May Allah answer all of your duas.

May he make the best of your deeds the last of your deed and may he make the best of your days the day that you meet him.

salaam

[mannypatel1]

ameen