I and many of my friends were told that without a perm, noone would think we were pretty or we would never get a boyfriend or friends or be on the magazine cover. I wonder why?
great video my man! However I do feel that permed hair is an issue, but the primary issue is our eurocentric viewpoints as african americans. These viewpoints perpetuate white supremacy and continue to oppress us. Permed hair is just a byproduct of this.
yo i never tried a perm. im a boy so i usaully get my hair briaded. my people say i need a perm cuz there weary of seeing my nappy hair. i just tell them i aint a shame of what god gave me.
Can all of you Afro Nazi's just STFU! Black people do come with naturally straight hair just like White people can have nappy hair. What difference does it make if a woman wants to relax her hair? I am mixed with extremely long wavy hair that took me over an hour to detangle after washing. My decision to relax my hair in 2007 was a good one. I still wear it wavy doing my braid outs though. Who are you all of you idiots to tell any woman what is right or wrong regarding her own hair in 2011?
He doesnt sound very intelligent. Takes a way from his speech the fact that his speech making isnt too great. He shouldve practiced, practiced, practiced before recording this. And then practiced lol
Cant compare hair and fabric. A suit is a suit to be worn by anyone with a physical body. A perm is a hair style choice. Bad analogy. Thats saying that Europeans have an ownership on suits. That perm is actually a temporary (c/o Kwame Ture) and for most Europeans it isnt.
Respectfully, I feel that blacks r 'watered down', the image of beauty has been ingrained in us from birth. we've gone from "I'm black & proud" with afros 2 frying(straightening comb) perming(toxic chemicals) weaving(other hair) & wigs(covering the hair altogether) Why do black women look n the mirror at their hair & don't like what they c? Becoming a slave 2 their own hair! don't swim, don't work out, can't get it wet. When was the last time a black man ran his hands thru his womans hair?
Lye was actually a torture item against slaves in America... Sad to know it has been the key to self-conscious developments in our community. It may now not be for the sake to be sad about natural hair ALL the time, but it has been for hundreds of years. It's was a style then to fit with the European's view of beauty, and is now, just not always self-conscious as in the past. And the sad thing... a lot of black people don't stay together today because they want an El Debarge or Halle Berry. :,(
@prettycookie29059 Did you see his video about Black women and White men where he says we are the last choosen? Or the one about successful single Black women in which he said we were whining about being single, and that if we can't find a good black man its a "YOU" problem. Just saying!
FIRST! monarchary is not a word! SECOND wearing your hair in a perm DOES have a European influence (DUH!), but that does NOT mean that we want to be European. Why don't you talk about how Hip hop (BLACK INFLUENCE!) has influence virtually every genre of music. In "melting pots" of culture such as America, races influence each other to create a culture. Think about that! America does NOT have a culture that is distinct. Their culture is a mix of races, traditions, cultures from around the world.
love your perspective bro. glad you posted this. i don't have a perm anymore, but i don't look down on anybody that does. i wish ppl could just appreciate the versatility of Black hair. we can rock it straight, curly, wavy, or kinky. it's beautiful in all its forms. i also feel that a person's conscious does not come from the hair upon his/her head, but derives from the information and lessons imbibed in the mind beneath it.
How bout you drop the being Black thing and try loving yourself as a natural human being. Love yourself and respect who you are as well as what you are. Try doing that for starters. Man made chemicals should be the last thing you apply to your scalp where underneth your brain rest in liquid.
@twalk2008 I agree with you there are too many issues in the black community to be focusing on HAIR! In 2010 we still have some problems. Even CNN made a point to do a special on Being Black in America! Let's focus on education about health,knowledge, and wealth then a hair style or fad that's a new trend. Most people that are now natural are because its the new fad for some BW not b/c of the roots if we really want to speak on it. Keeping it real!
I agree. A woman can wear her hair however she chooses to wear it. In the natural community, its still "segregation" because they have hair types like type 3 hair is better than type 4 hair. Perm vs. Natural, who cares, wear your hair the way you want.
i respect your opinion, but i do think black hair is a MAJOR issue, black hair is apart of our culture, it is whats sets us apart from any other race, or culture and i havent seen the other ppl on youtube u refer to, but just listening to you brings some awarenes to me that this is a big issue. Ever since i went natural about 2 months ago my own people look at my hair as if it disgusts them, like im a disgrace. Why? People are simply ignorant to the cause of "living outside the box"- God bless
I use to perm my hair AND I looked good. BUT it was not good for my scalp. I was a child when I started that and I don't feel that I was FULLY aware of the consequences or WHY it was done - other than to MEET a certain image of beauty propagated by a "non-black" media.
Everybody wants to be accepted. Sometimes that is on an unconscious level.
Has anyone ever done a study on WHAT'S IN THE PERM? Is it okay for our health?
@JJolaine watch Chris Rock's documentary I think it's called "Good Hair". They told a scientist that women use this on their hair and he was shocked because it can melt a pop can!
@GGLebo23 His logic is so assbackwards. Using his logic if we smoke (chemical) we are trying to be Native American (they discovered it). Or if we eat/make Lasagna we are trying to be Italian. Go back to the bookstore, return the shit book you got, and buy one that gives you STATS!
So women have permed hair because their mother had permed hair and that’s all they know. If you've never dealt with your hair in its natural state, it can be a little scary for some women. I don't think it's fair to stick your nose up to a permed person and pass judgment. Not all permed people are unconscious. Not all natural people are conscious. I’m natural, but I’ve had perms.
@Auntkekebaby , I agree. I didn't put the perm in my hair growing up,and I wasn't trying be another race. I didn't think like that as a child. Have the time I wore it in a pony tail. lol
what are you talking about? perms are horrible. natural hair is so beautiful i wish other black girls would see how beautiful there hair is the way it is. the way God made it natural hair is so gorg
And even though it burns, it hurts its causes cancer and the hair driops out because of the chemicals women do it because it looks better. What is the difference between do this and using skin lighteners.
You are are unconcious and you actively encourageing women to deface themsleves.
It looks better, easier to manage.I prefer it this way.
Mean while they are poisening themselves why?
There is a big difference to putting on a suit and putting a corrosive checmical product that can give you cancer in your hair which ends up in your blood stream
As a woman who used to relax my hair, I can tell you the truthful reason why I relaxed my hair...w/o the bull. I relaxed my hair b/c I wanted to better manage my hair into certain hairstyles. I've been natural for 14 months and I didn't know I had beautiful curls and how to define them until 5 months ago. Our hair isn't easy to deal w/ its frustrating. We have to put more effort into keeping our hair then other groups. I loved my black culture & relaxers was apart of my culture.
@ladyEulaelie The styles you used to style your hair in. In retro spec where they european styles? I.e. would these styles been possible had your hair not been relaxed?
Hairstyles are universal, depending on length, the only difference in the hairstyle is the different look in texture, however, It is much harder to achieve some of the hair styles b/c of the nature of BW's hair. The longer the hair the easier. My pin curls would not stay in form I wanted b/c all my hair wanted to do was curl and they did not the defined look to them that I wanted. So yes, I could have worn the same style but it wouldn't have come out right to my liking.
And some of the hair styles out there ( I won't say European, b/c the black ppl I know of don't go for contour, African hairstyles...the kind you see off of National Geo) I can achieve with out having to worry about volume or texture, b/c I naturally have those things, whereas a woman who doesn't have my hair type might have to struggle in messing w/ her hair to make the style look right.
Lets not forget that alot of black woman were taught that their hair was inferior as a child. You had mothers and grandmothers saying: GIRL YOUR HAIR SO NAPPY AND THICK!
YOU NEED A PERM TO GET THEM PEAS OUT YOUR HEAD!
It's a generational thing also when it comes to chemically altering our appearence. I really thought I had terrible hair until I went natural and realised my hair was beautiful. It's actually thick but soft and curly.
Well I personally went natural because it was more healthy. most of the elderly black woman in my community are wearing wigs or braids with thinned out and missing hair and I didn't want that to be me down the line.
I think just as these commercials target black woman to perm their hair, people should be able to tell people how better it is to be natural. Why isn't there any commercials telling our bro's and sisters that natural is beauty? Have you ever thought about that?
This is really the problem with society; more and more people are concerned about what they look like on the outside instead of working on what is in the inside.
It's hair! When you die it really wouldn't matter what you did to your hair. It's not what goes in a man that defiles a man but what comes out of him that defiles him.
More people need to work on their inner man instead of their outter appearance.
@tashafawn24 dis video is about the perms not outside or inner nonsense, dont coming on here talking about something else. its about loving what god gave you...
"This video is about relaxers and loving what God has given you and not about that outter or inner nonsense! Don't come on here posting things not pertaining to the subject matter at hand.
Your post was funny to me because it seems like you're having a hard time expressing a single thought. I'm sorry you felt that way...be blessed :)
I'll be real hair is hair but i like black hair period it can be straight or natural. But i'm not crazy about that weave or hair dye stuff but women will do what they want with there hair and i can't stop them so who cares. Lol some black people are way to extreme.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Conscious women showing their butts for all the world to see. That's funny. Women who pose nude for salacious magazines aren't conscious of anything but themselves. Sorry, but those are the wrong role models.
Personally I think to perm or not to perm is a personal decision. Not to be condemned. At the end of the day we are still a minority & need 2 uplift each other...I'm not trying to make light of the topic. Hair is definitely a big issue but I believe there are so many other important things going on. We as an African American community do not need the preference of how someone chooses wears their hair as ammunition to tear each other down. We are all black & beautiful:) no matter the hair!
@ProudMomOfIsaiah these are the techniques that were used during colonialism that keep us seperated as a race. You sit on your high horse talking down to people when i'm pretty sure you have no fro. Yes, you don't have a relaxer, but in reality that is the Black mans equivalent. Wear the fro, then talk shit!
@cperreira This is quite hilarious considering I made this comment a year ago. To correct you, I am indeed natural & PROUDLY wear my hair in its natural kinky state. If you look at my page background picture you could see that. I am not condemning anyone rather stating the exact opposite.
Hair is an big deal my brotha, because it let u know who u are...To keep it one hundred perms have mess up our women...to be be truly conscious, one must really know its self..We are a Nation of people that don't have a true Idenitiy.. just lost....so thats why a lot of us try to blind in we the europeans..our communities will never be right until we understand who we are and why we are here in amerikkk..Peace/Shalom and may Yah keep you.
perms = toxic dumps on top of the scalp which sip through the skin and under the scalp where the brain lays and the brain sits in a liquid that becomes contaminated by the chemicals in the perm and that fucks up the dna...
@maxluxur , just like eating fast food everyday can have bad health results. Deformed children were always here since before relaxers came out. I love being black,and a perm has nothing to do with it. I seen a dude with dreads locked hair the other day,and he wasn't with a black woman. lol Having a natural style has nothing to do with loving your blackness,because half of you are hypocrites. Being black is uplifting your people,and not finding reasons to put them down.
@IMFLORIDA305 ,don't dog me out over no hair now,because we have worse problems than hair boo boo. They have people with natural hair on T.V,but you need to talk to B.E.T about that. Black channels the one not showing natural hair . Black folks do it to themselves most of the time.
I think it has a lot more to do with the people before us. After slavery, black people just wanted to belong. Coming out of an ERA were women were degraded and call NAPPY head, desegrating schools, and doing sit-ins. I think they just wanted to give people one less thing to say about black people. I think the this set into motion the programming of our hair isn't good enough. I do think that now that things are changed we are responsible for reversing that decision. BUT BE AWARE of how you do it
sorry and one last things, i should have just made a video right? lol but i just asked myself a question. its such a big deal with the black women the whole euro/hair wars...why not the men who relax as well...katt williams, snoop (ig) they are just considered rappin comedic pimps? lol i havent heard one thing yet on men who relax and press, only the women, where's the double standard in that?.....
there are black women like u said who are relaxed who are more educated so on and so forth than a natural sista. u see black men with locs with white women, does that mean they are more intouch with their roots because they have locs?...not a question just a point. so i feel u foreal. theres too much bashing, lol and no but if u were to grow ur fro out and straighten it like mark walberg, then u would "APPEAR" as if ur eurostruck to many.
u knbow wut, u go hed brotha! i agree with u. i dont think its right to just attack black women who relax like that. i was once relaxed myself. i have family and friends who are still relaxed. but i do have and will make videos from time to time on eurocentrism what affect it does have on our black women today. but i will say my reason for going natural/locking was because of the chemicals in relaxers and what they do to the hair and body over time. it has nothing to do with a black awareness..
wow, Im from mississippi too, and I'm just wondering what natural heads do you ever see in mississippi? People here will go damn near bald before they ever think about letting their hair revert back to their natural state! Also, lots of people hear demean me for wearing my hair natural. They're ignorant basically.
@KMELIZ21 The reason I went to locs. I was NOT going bald for anybody. Perms destroyed my scalp. I have too much hair to do anything else. Convenience
Being a formerly relaxed sister, I don't bash or condemn one way or the other. I empathize with the natural sistahs and their wisdom on the health benefits and I won't deny the convenience of relaxed hair. However, I learned my hair does not like relaxer at all, and never has. It was my personal choice to make the change and while I'm proud of my decision I will say that I don't have a problem with anyone unless I am approached by someone who feels the need to tell me I need a perm.
I am a natural sistah and I have always loved natural hair. I can't front and I won't front. I remember being excited when my mom permed my hair cause I hated having it styled. It was always a war. She was too heavy handed and handled it harshly so the chemicals were my friend. Even though I was relaxed, i still loved natural hair very much. When I returned to my roots, I was pleased. I went through phases and sometimes I still like straight hair, but I just opt for a blow out instead.
Every natural head isn't totally comfortable being so & every relaxed chick isn't self-hating...& hopefully we can now understand that 'generalizing's bad...m'kay?' LOL I'm aware of myself, my history & my standing in the world. The texture of my hair doesn't make this any or more or less true. If a person would use my relaxed hair as the basis for a personality/psychological assessment of me then I've no desire to know them. Ppl like this are far too stupid to be taken seriously...imo.
9 times out of 10, they're working through the same issues as the ppl that they accuse. Matter fact, LET'S FLIP THE SCRIPT. I see plenty of naturals going through bottles of Kinky Curly to turn their C-Napps into a 'multi-ethnic curls'. & claiming to be 3c's.LOL Let's talk that? Can't play that 'blacker-than-thou' sh*t w/me -- b/c I know better. You have conflicted ppl struggling in private w/their issues -- yet they wanna criticize and put everyone*else* on blast...and PROJECT.
As it is with hair. I leaped that good/bad hair hurdle the minute I saw my natural hair. I can only speak for myself but I am comfortable w/everything that encompasses me. I may try to go natural again but that'd entail hacking off all my damn hair & that's just not going to happen. LOL But yeah-- most of us have dealt/will deal will these issues which is why I try to zone out when some of the more judgemental natural heads get on their self-erected pedestals...
I'm aware of the 'deep-seated issues' and blah, blah,blah else that go hand in hand w/black hair. I also know that for some ppl -- the situation ain't THAT deep. It's about convenience. Little more than a style choice. Most of us have these 'ideas' that we need to get over. Some more than others. Personally, I've never been one to have issues w/my skin-tone and features. In MY world/opinion, a goodlooking woman is a goodlooking woman & no goodlooking woman has a problem getting a man.
Anyway, I'm relaxed. I transitioned for a long while. I was a bit past armpit length...but I texlaxed b/c couldn't control my hair. Simple as that. I miss my coils. I prefer natural to relaxed hair actually. I have no issues with my natural hair & I don't care to be (mis)diagnosed as having all sorts of self-worth issues from smug strangers on the net w/a superiority complex. Take that elsewhere...
Too many black men and women are pointing fingers, imo. That's the problem. If one side ain't one whining it's the other side. It just needs to stop. If everyone would exert half as much energy on fixing their own circumstances as they do blaming everyone that they don't know for their emotional/dating/mental/interpersonal issues --- they'd be much better off and more fulfilled in life.
I gotta agree. Some ppl just get online & 'project' their issues onto everyone. It's annoying. As far as black women failing anyone... *I* failed no one. So I don't take comments like that personally. I'm in school. I work two jobs...I'm handling business. The only male that I owe anything to is my HUSBAND & my future sons. If a brotha can't find a decent sista -- how's that MY probelm. Work it out in therapy...that's the best I can tell him.
great points. And to the issue of Black women failing someone, I mean I always here that "black women have attitudes", Well I am black and I get along with black men just fine. Energy is energy. If someone approaches a black women with the preconceived notion that she "may" have an attitude, you are sending out those negative signals. Just approach with respect, love, understanding and all of those you'll get in return...
In my opinion some Black females just like to wear their hair straight, not because they hate their hair but because they just like straight hair lol..
What ever decisions they make in relation to their hair I agree should be done with plenty of research on maintaining their choice.
Anyone who would rather go through the burning irritating, relaxing every 3 mos rather than learning to maintain there natural hair is scared to. Scared that they'd be viewed as un-pretty, or less than acceptable. I've talked to women w/ relaxers and asked why no go natural. There was a plethora of excuses ranging from "my head is too big" to "I just like my weaves". The real answer is that they hate or fear their natural hair
oh my! well, my thoughts: I believe that we our taught indirectly when we are children that our natural hair is less than those w/ European hair. We've had our hair pressed/relaxed as children and told that we are more beautiful that way. We are never told to appreciate our natural hair. Yes straight hair is the westernized way but why can't we still be ourselves in this westernized society. Black women don't see it, but they do have a subconscious hate for their natural hair. (cont'd)
I also want to just say, If a lady does choose to relax her hair the fact remains that its a chemical which is not the best for the scalp or the hair...but at the same time it doesn't mean it can't grow and still be healthy. I'll just advice any female who relaxes, to do her research on keeping healthy hair. It is possible. and at the same time if you have tried and it isn't working try going natural. There is so much info out there on how to easily maintain it. Either way health is the key :)
relaxed hair + healthy = oxymoron. No matter how well you take care of relaxed hair it still will never be as healthy as someone with non-chemically treated hair. Yes there are ways to maintain it, but that's as far as it goes.
Yes I agree with you, it can't be as healthy as having natural hair..but I believe it can still maintain health. I personally have been natural for a few years, and have friends who have relaxers because they prefer the straight look, while one of my friends recently went natural because she simply wanted to try something different.
I don't believe all black women who relax their hair do it because they have a hidden hatred for their hair. But hey this is just my perspective on the issue.
As far as I'm concerned whether hair is relaxed or natural the ultimate goal should be to keep it healthy...I feel that black women and a lot of other women should really be focusing on healthy hair...Ive seen healthy relaxed hair and I've seen healthy long natural hair. What should really be important especially to the black woman is just keeping her hair healthy. If you choose to do it naturally that's good..if not fine. But either way maintenance and looking after it is truly the key :)
umm i just like having a relaxer in my hair cause it makes my life SOO much easier and less painfull. I have a sensitive scalp and combin those naps hurt my head n just makes everything all difficult sooo yea :)
then someone tries to get on you for saying its just easier to maintain! muthafuckas is hypocrites(not u) cuz dreds need maintenance, a fro needs maintenance, and permed hair needs maintenance so i dont get the debate. some people do probably hate themselves but dont say its cuz of your hair. thats on the surface and i think we can all agree that hatred for your self or someone else, comes from the inside. i hate myself cuz of my HAIR!!!!! no no its deeper than that people!
Just because I can't see air doesn't mean I don't breathe. Culture is intricately linked to idendtity. Fact. If you are constantly practicing, admiring, imitating someone else's then you have a identify crisis. Don't get me wrong I'm in the same boat.
Further more. How can you measure how concious someone is?
Conciousness covers different areas.
Hair being one area. If the hair is permed they are unconcious in the department.
IF they are having sexual relations with the enemy then they are unconcious in the area of racial relations.
But suffice to say with a women who has permed hair you can be pretty safe in assuming she isn't especially interested in her own African/Black/Israelite/Original man/Original Woman culture.
Tell it! My only oppressor is Satan. And what is up with the black guys who feel so threatened by the fact that Black women are finding men out side the Black race, who will be good husbands and fathers?? Why should any Black female deny herself the opportunity for love? A Black men would have to feel very insecure to care. I'm not property to the Black race.
Perms? Being natural doesn't make you more black or proud to be black, so why exalt yourself over BW with relaxers?
I was explaining to someone who I felt about my hair and what I could and couldn't do with it before I went natural and got to know how easy it was to manage my hair.
@twalk2008 your so backward on this topic, besides suites and hair are not the same! Suites dont damage your body perms do! Your just trying to approve blk women for pussy points
cont'd..lol! BUT, I have received negative comments or crticism from women with permed hair or those wearing weaves and braids who are not comfortable enough to wear their own hair out. Now, I can only speak for myself, but I think the negativity you are sensing from the women you mentioned may stem from this kind of reaxn. The way anyone chooses to wear ones hair is a personal choice. No one has the right to judge anything about a person, for any reason, especially not by their hair. Good vid!
I have been wearing locs for about 3 months now and I absolutely love them! I have tons of videos where I talk about ways I maintain my hair and how I feel about it; I also have a hair journey. Unlike some of the other "naturals" you speak of or in general I don't condem women with perms. I used to have them, and I have experienced the pros and cons using them. But locs are my preferred choice. I don't think permed women are any less conscious than I am.
I have been on both sides of the spectrum, I've been both relaxed and natural. When I was relaxed I didn't do it because I wanted to look like someone else or as a result of self hatred. When I was natural it was because I wanted to do something different to my. I have tremendous respect for all sisters relaxed or natural and feel that we are wasting time judging one another for personal decisions.
I'm glad you posted this, I kept coming across videos of guys downing relaxed sisters...and everyone's defense is that we want to be white & we look to Europeans for beauty...I look everywhere for beauty & I perceive ppl way past their hair...unfortunately others see hair & make assumptions based on that which is truly pitiful
To be quite honest I don't care if natural sistas talk down on girls with perms. Cause girls with perms be doing the same damn thing, lol. There was even a video made about natural sistas being ugly. So what? And yeah sistas do need to wera their natural texture of hair. Stop walking around with straight hair. A lot of black Americans in general are white-washed. It's ok to wear straight hair occasionally or if you naturally have straight hair. But I see where blaqueindigo is coming from.
I understand what you are saying unlike some of the people that have commented on your video before. As a black woman I feel like some the women who go natural do down women who choose to straighten their hair. Their comments make me feel like i'm inferior because I don't choose to look like them. How I choose to wear my hair is the least of the problems within the black community as you said. Also not all women with straight hair have used relaxers some have used straigten or they use wigs.
hair is a representation of what a person believe beauty should look like. if u are CHEMICALLY PERMANATLY ALTERIN YOUR HAIR. THAT IS A PROBLEM. Extreme exhibit of how u think beauty should look. consciousness is not just havin the knowledge but ACTIN N DISPLAYIN TRUTH N BEAUTY
Yep we as black people have been brainwashed to think european its better. Its been beaten into our ancestors mind that black hair is horrible and that we should be ashamed to look african
What do you think about women who wear perm who have always talked negatively about women with natural hair? They wear perms because they think natural hair is UGLY. Did you see Tyra's Good/Bad Hair Show? I think it is about time that women with natural hair claim their beauty directly in the face of women who wear perms and weaves, because they HAVE ALWAYS looked at us as being ugly to the point of frying their hair and going to weave extreme to AVOID LOOKING LIKE US.
i love black women if they have perms or not but perms were created from black oppression and passed down just like slave food so called soul food so no matter what is said to me it is self hatred or a cover up so they can fit into white society fo survive. when you look at the trees and plants they grow up toward the sun and so does our hair which lets u know that you are naturally in tune with nature and original when i see dead hair 2 me it symbolizes a dead or dying mind in most cases peace
I agree, but some women with relaxers look down on naturals as well. You can't just point the finger at naturals because both relaxed and natural women look down on each other.
this guy told me that he thinks a lot of permed hair looks "petrified" - stiff and fried to death and I agree, natural hair has a unique personality- you can stand two permed women together and 9 times out of 10 it will pretty much look the same (no braids/weave) but you put two naturals together?? man, diversity truly is the spice of life!!! :)
Negative....put a girl with a perm that doesn't know how to care for hair & one that does...there's a difference....put a natural who knows how to care for her hair & one that doesn't THERE IS VERY MUCH SO A DIFFERENCE....just because you're permed doesn't limit you to one style....Healthy hair is beautiful permed or not....
yeah there is a definite diff. with folk with unhealthy hair, What I was saying is that i notice perms are like an equalizer to blk hair, it takes out the personality of the natural texture of hair and to me makes it all look the same. In my own personal opinion, I can even see a difference between pressed and permed, pressed still leaves the hair with its own personality where as permed doesnt. Im not talking about style im talking about texture appearance .
I think your refering to volume & body....I respect your opinion...but my hair doesn't automatically tame itself....ppl give their hair a personality whether their curling it, coloring it, straighten it....it's all about the choosing the right product to make your healthy & bouncy & vibrant.....hair doesn't do that on it's own...but again I respect your opinion
its like they say what i eat dont make u poop, i can state my position on a topic all day even have the gall to think im better than someone...but that dont make it true , lets stop censoring each other- we are all free to say and think what we choose to.
And to the black male/black female sex wars...oh well whatever will be, will be!
I have natural hair and I dont think the other women are condemning women that choose to perm their hair. I think being an advocate for nappy hair is cool. You yourself showed why...If black women don't advocate nappy hair WHO will? not mainstream media, not the mags u prescribe to...if we don't talk about the natural beauty in our hair not only will no one else but they will/do tell us our natural should be hidden and is bad
My brother you bring up some very good points. Especially in how others should preface their points more carefully. However, I will have to say that as a general rule of thumb , in the black community, there are more people who do not have knowledge of self than those that do. That is my vantage point of consciousness.
I so agree if a person want to get a perm that is their preference. I have natural hair and LOVE IT but I refuse put others down if they perfer their hair to be straight. peaceandluv
I am 26 years old also and I have natural hair I believe that you should stay natural. Hair is thicker and healthier in my opinion,but the question is what ever style you decide "are you comfortable in your hair" bc of society it takes time to become comfortable in natural hair bc how society perceives it. But also you have to look at this way many years ago their weren't enought natural hair styles to work with but now we do. Hey if you go to perm just take care of it peaceandluv
Honestly, we will never know if thats how those women ACTUALLY feel. In the end, its just hair and if you let your hair define YOU natural or relaxed there is a way bigger issue you have to deal with within yourself.
well i understand why shorty said that, not that wasnt your argument but you made the statement that every woman had permed hair....you didnt say I bet or I wonder if.....
I feel that people put too much emphasis on hair period. I recently went natural and I made the decision for myself to have healthier hair. I do not feel this makes me better than a woman with relaxed hair. However, the main issue I feel is the stigma that natural hair is unattractive and not as accepted and some women choose to relax their hair because they feel they will not be accepted.
People shouldn't put down other people because they relax.
But then you also have women who put others down because they don't relax, as if wearing natural hair is somehow unnatural. Some people are just petty. Relaxing should be an option and not a requirement, but to many black women hair relaxing is synonymous with breathing lol. Yes I am natural. Rather that than allowing Nair to gradually seep into my brain. just stop buying them and stop buyin into them...you know?
Agree 100%.I don't mind seeing a black person who's conscience and wear their hair in a natural do but, but it is divisive to assume that people with natural hairstyles have a monopoly on afrocentricity. Division defeats the whole pupose of the Black pride movement.
i wear my hair natural because i live in awhite neighborhood, and there are a ton of white gurls who are jelous of the thickness and the curls, shit i could never relax my hair again.
I and many of my friends were told that without a perm, noone would think we were pretty or we would never get a boyfriend or friends or be on the magazine cover. I wonder why?
ketinace88 7 months ago
I liked this video.
nanky89 7 months ago
I loved your video! I gave you a video response on my perspective as well.
brainznbeauty 7 months ago
if you're not born with the perm hair, Dont put the chemcials in your scalp.
MrSincere007 8 months ago
2:06 *picks up magazine* "damn that white girl is fine"
FromTheAshesWeRiot 9 months ago
@FromTheAshesWeRiot lol! now that was funny.
twalk2008 9 months ago
great video my man! However I do feel that permed hair is an issue, but the primary issue is our eurocentric viewpoints as african americans. These viewpoints perpetuate white supremacy and continue to oppress us. Permed hair is just a byproduct of this.
khayesjr85 9 months ago
yo i never tried a perm. im a boy so i usaully get my hair briaded. my people say i need a perm cuz there weary of seeing my nappy hair. i just tell them i aint a shame of what god gave me.
domestic57 10 months ago
Can all of you Afro Nazi's just STFU! Black people do come with naturally straight hair just like White people can have nappy hair. What difference does it make if a woman wants to relax her hair? I am mixed with extremely long wavy hair that took me over an hour to detangle after washing. My decision to relax my hair in 2007 was a good one. I still wear it wavy doing my braid outs though. Who are you all of you idiots to tell any woman what is right or wrong regarding her own hair in 2011?
mochacreamdoll 11 months ago
He doesnt sound very intelligent. Takes a way from his speech the fact that his speech making isnt too great. He shouldve practiced, practiced, practiced before recording this. And then practiced lol
missbriteyes 11 months ago
@missbriteyes well....it has been recorded, sorry. Doesn't sound intelligent...hmmm....ok, That's a YOU problem.
twalk2008 11 months ago
Cant compare hair and fabric. A suit is a suit to be worn by anyone with a physical body. A perm is a hair style choice. Bad analogy. Thats saying that Europeans have an ownership on suits. That perm is actually a temporary (c/o Kwame Ture) and for most Europeans it isnt.
authorNYSE 11 months ago
Cant compare hair and fabric. A suit is a suit to be worn by anyone with a physical body. A perm is a hair style choice. Bad analogy.
authorNYSE 11 months ago
Respectfully, I feel that blacks r 'watered down', the image of beauty has been ingrained in us from birth. we've gone from "I'm black & proud" with afros 2 frying(straightening comb) perming(toxic chemicals) weaving(other hair) & wigs(covering the hair altogether) Why do black women look n the mirror at their hair & don't like what they c? Becoming a slave 2 their own hair! don't swim, don't work out, can't get it wet. When was the last time a black man ran his hands thru his womans hair?
dakforever29 1 year ago
Lye was actually a torture item against slaves in America... Sad to know it has been the key to self-conscious developments in our community. It may now not be for the sake to be sad about natural hair ALL the time, but it has been for hundreds of years. It's was a style then to fit with the European's view of beauty, and is now, just not always self-conscious as in the past. And the sad thing... a lot of black people don't stay together today because they want an El Debarge or Halle Berry. :,(
massiahmassiah7 1 year ago
@prettycookie29059 Did you see his video about Black women and White men where he says we are the last choosen? Or the one about successful single Black women in which he said we were whining about being single, and that if we can't find a good black man its a "YOU" problem. Just saying!
cperreira 1 year ago
FIRST! monarchary is not a word! SECOND wearing your hair in a perm DOES have a European influence (DUH!), but that does NOT mean that we want to be European. Why don't you talk about how Hip hop (BLACK INFLUENCE!) has influence virtually every genre of music. In "melting pots" of culture such as America, races influence each other to create a culture. Think about that! America does NOT have a culture that is distinct. Their culture is a mix of races, traditions, cultures from around the world.
cperreira 1 year ago
its funny how some people are so against perms but when a sista is natural she gets made fun of for having nappy hair lol.....................
thickjai18 1 year ago 2
@thickjai18 Agreed!!!!
paninachina 1 year ago
really insightful video!
mynameisketchup 1 year ago
love your perspective bro. glad you posted this. i don't have a perm anymore, but i don't look down on anybody that does. i wish ppl could just appreciate the versatility of Black hair. we can rock it straight, curly, wavy, or kinky. it's beautiful in all its forms. i also feel that a person's conscious does not come from the hair upon his/her head, but derives from the information and lessons imbibed in the mind beneath it.
kbazille2008 1 year ago
How bout you drop the being Black thing and try loving yourself as a natural human being. Love yourself and respect who you are as well as what you are. Try doing that for starters. Man made chemicals should be the last thing you apply to your scalp where underneth your brain rest in liquid.
maxluxur 1 year ago
oh shut the fuck up if you look good with it you look good with it
fortkatana4u 1 year ago
@twalk2008 I agree with you there are too many issues in the black community to be focusing on HAIR! In 2010 we still have some problems. Even CNN made a point to do a special on Being Black in America! Let's focus on education about health,knowledge, and wealth then a hair style or fad that's a new trend. Most people that are now natural are because its the new fad for some BW not b/c of the roots if we really want to speak on it. Keeping it real!
beincurious 1 year ago
I agree. A woman can wear her hair however she chooses to wear it. In the natural community, its still "segregation" because they have hair types like type 3 hair is better than type 4 hair. Perm vs. Natural, who cares, wear your hair the way you want.
AtlantaAngel84 1 year ago
i respect your opinion, but i do think black hair is a MAJOR issue, black hair is apart of our culture, it is whats sets us apart from any other race, or culture and i havent seen the other ppl on youtube u refer to, but just listening to you brings some awarenes to me that this is a big issue. Ever since i went natural about 2 months ago my own people look at my hair as if it disgusts them, like im a disgrace. Why? People are simply ignorant to the cause of "living outside the box"- God bless
character4thought 1 year ago
I use to perm my hair AND I looked good. BUT it was not good for my scalp. I was a child when I started that and I don't feel that I was FULLY aware of the consequences or WHY it was done - other than to MEET a certain image of beauty propagated by a "non-black" media.
Everybody wants to be accepted. Sometimes that is on an unconscious level.
Has anyone ever done a study on WHAT'S IN THE PERM? Is it okay for our health?
JJolaine 1 year ago
@JJolaine watch Chris Rock's documentary I think it's called "Good Hair". They told a scientist that women use this on their hair and he was shocked because it can melt a pop can!
cperreira 1 year ago
If a white woman perms her hair to get curls does she hate herself?
GGLebo23 1 year ago
@GGLebo23 His logic is so assbackwards. Using his logic if we smoke (chemical) we are trying to be Native American (they discovered it). Or if we eat/make Lasagna we are trying to be Italian. Go back to the bookstore, return the shit book you got, and buy one that gives you STATS!
cperreira 1 year ago
So women have permed hair because their mother had permed hair and that’s all they know. If you've never dealt with your hair in its natural state, it can be a little scary for some women. I don't think it's fair to stick your nose up to a permed person and pass judgment. Not all permed people are unconscious. Not all natural people are conscious. I’m natural, but I’ve had perms.
Auntkekebaby 1 year ago 2
@Auntkekebaby , I agree. I didn't put the perm in my hair growing up,and I wasn't trying be another race. I didn't think like that as a child. Have the time I wore it in a pony tail. lol
MarquitaD111 1 year ago
what are you talking about? perms are horrible. natural hair is so beautiful i wish other black girls would see how beautiful there hair is the way it is. the way God made it natural hair is so gorg
SophiaChar 1 year ago
And even though it burns, it hurts its causes cancer and the hair driops out because of the chemicals women do it because it looks better. What is the difference between do this and using skin lighteners.
You are are unconcious and you actively encourageing women to deface themsleves.
aewen007 1 year ago
Ask a black woman why she perms her hair?
She will teel you all sorts of foolishness?
It looks better, easier to manage.I prefer it this way.
Mean while they are poisening themselves why?
There is a big difference to putting on a suit and putting a corrosive checmical product that can give you cancer in your hair which ends up in your blood stream
aewen007 1 year ago
@aewen007
As a woman who used to relax my hair, I can tell you the truthful reason why I relaxed my hair...w/o the bull. I relaxed my hair b/c I wanted to better manage my hair into certain hairstyles. I've been natural for 14 months and I didn't know I had beautiful curls and how to define them until 5 months ago. Our hair isn't easy to deal w/ its frustrating. We have to put more effort into keeping our hair then other groups. I loved my black culture & relaxers was apart of my culture.
ladyEulaelie 1 year ago
@ladyEulaelie The styles you used to style your hair in. In retro spec where they european styles? I.e. would these styles been possible had your hair not been relaxed?
aewen007 1 year ago
@aewen007
Hairstyles are universal, depending on length, the only difference in the hairstyle is the different look in texture, however, It is much harder to achieve some of the hair styles b/c of the nature of BW's hair. The longer the hair the easier. My pin curls would not stay in form I wanted b/c all my hair wanted to do was curl and they did not the defined look to them that I wanted. So yes, I could have worn the same style but it wouldn't have come out right to my liking.
ladyEulaelie 1 year ago
@ladyEulaelie
And some of the hair styles out there ( I won't say European, b/c the black ppl I know of don't go for contour, African hairstyles...the kind you see off of National Geo) I can achieve with out having to worry about volume or texture, b/c I naturally have those things, whereas a woman who doesn't have my hair type might have to struggle in messing w/ her hair to make the style look right.
ladyEulaelie 1 year ago
Well said man!
Nydhenry6708 1 year ago
LMAO @ the intro!
SivvySiv 1 year ago
lol! You so held up that picture at 2:50 on purpose....in the words of the once popular Sisqo song "thong thong thong thong, thong"
yourstrulyaz 1 year ago
mmmm i love it when a man talks passionately about a subject. its so sexy i swear
jennybooboo7 2 years ago
Lets not forget that alot of black woman were taught that their hair was inferior as a child. You had mothers and grandmothers saying: GIRL YOUR HAIR SO NAPPY AND THICK!
YOU NEED A PERM TO GET THEM PEAS OUT YOUR HEAD!
It's a generational thing also when it comes to chemically altering our appearence. I really thought I had terrible hair until I went natural and realised my hair was beautiful. It's actually thick but soft and curly.
26aowens 2 years ago
Well I personally went natural because it was more healthy. most of the elderly black woman in my community are wearing wigs or braids with thinned out and missing hair and I didn't want that to be me down the line.
I think just as these commercials target black woman to perm their hair, people should be able to tell people how better it is to be natural. Why isn't there any commercials telling our bro's and sisters that natural is beauty? Have you ever thought about that?
26aowens 2 years ago
This is really the problem with society; more and more people are concerned about what they look like on the outside instead of working on what is in the inside.
It's hair! When you die it really wouldn't matter what you did to your hair. It's not what goes in a man that defiles a man but what comes out of him that defiles him.
More people need to work on their inner man instead of their outter appearance.
Agree or Disagree?
tashafawn24 2 years ago
true
hazelsimone 2 years ago
@tashafawn24 dis video is about the perms not outside or inner nonsense, dont coming on here talking about something else. its about loving what god gave you...
trini4eve9 1 year ago
@trini4eve9 here, let me help you out.
"This video is about relaxers and loving what God has given you and not about that outter or inner nonsense! Don't come on here posting things not pertaining to the subject matter at hand.
Your post was funny to me because it seems like you're having a hard time expressing a single thought. I'm sorry you felt that way...be blessed :)
tashafawn24 1 year ago
I'll be real hair is hair but i like black hair period it can be straight or natural. But i'm not crazy about that weave or hair dye stuff but women will do what they want with there hair and i can't stop them so who cares. Lol some black people are way to extreme.
Jabbaro123 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Conscious women showing their butts for all the world to see. That's funny. Women who pose nude for salacious magazines aren't conscious of anything but themselves. Sorry, but those are the wrong role models.
MsJardinplume 2 years ago
Personally I think to perm or not to perm is a personal decision. Not to be condemned. At the end of the day we are still a minority & need 2 uplift each other...I'm not trying to make light of the topic. Hair is definitely a big issue but I believe there are so many other important things going on. We as an African American community do not need the preference of how someone chooses wears their hair as ammunition to tear each other down. We are all black & beautiful:) no matter the hair!
ProudMomOfIsaiah 2 years ago 3
@ProudMomOfIsaiah these are the techniques that were used during colonialism that keep us seperated as a race. You sit on your high horse talking down to people when i'm pretty sure you have no fro. Yes, you don't have a relaxer, but in reality that is the Black mans equivalent. Wear the fro, then talk shit!
cperreira 1 year ago
@cperreira This is quite hilarious considering I made this comment a year ago. To correct you, I am indeed natural & PROUDLY wear my hair in its natural kinky state. If you look at my page background picture you could see that. I am not condemning anyone rather stating the exact opposite.
ProudMomOfIsaiah 1 year ago
Hair is an big deal my brotha, because it let u know who u are...To keep it one hundred perms have mess up our women...to be be truly conscious, one must really know its self..We are a Nation of people that don't have a true Idenitiy.. just lost....so thats why a lot of us try to blind in we the europeans..our communities will never be right until we understand who we are and why we are here in amerikkk..Peace/Shalom and may Yah keep you.
muteehall 2 years ago
@muteehall Thank you for being aware of reality!
cperreira 1 year ago
perms = toxic dumps on top of the scalp which sip through the skin and under the scalp where the brain lays and the brain sits in a liquid that becomes contaminated by the chemicals in the perm and that fucks up the dna...
maxluxur 2 years ago 8
@maxluxur that is spot on. This guy has no clue about himself much less about women putting a chemical dump in their hair.
aewen007 1 year ago
@aewen007 check out my videos Black women and Weaves part 1/3
maxluxur 1 year ago
@maxluxur , just like eating fast food everyday can have bad health results. Deformed children were always here since before relaxers came out. I love being black,and a perm has nothing to do with it. I seen a dude with dreads locked hair the other day,and he wasn't with a black woman. lol Having a natural style has nothing to do with loving your blackness,because half of you are hypocrites. Being black is uplifting your people,and not finding reasons to put them down.
MarquitaD111 1 year ago 2
@MarquitaD111 Copout. next!
IMFLORIDA305 1 year ago
@IMFLORIDA305 ,don't dog me out over no hair now,because we have worse problems than hair boo boo. They have people with natural hair on T.V,but you need to talk to B.E.T about that. Black channels the one not showing natural hair . Black folks do it to themselves most of the time.
MarquitaD111 1 year ago
I think it has a lot more to do with the people before us. After slavery, black people just wanted to belong. Coming out of an ERA were women were degraded and call NAPPY head, desegrating schools, and doing sit-ins. I think they just wanted to give people one less thing to say about black people. I think the this set into motion the programming of our hair isn't good enough. I do think that now that things are changed we are responsible for reversing that decision. BUT BE AWARE of how you do it
bgsbnnyebony 2 years ago 3
HERE'S A MIND BITE...
sorry and one last things, i should have just made a video right? lol but i just asked myself a question. its such a big deal with the black women the whole euro/hair wars...why not the men who relax as well...katt williams, snoop (ig) they are just considered rappin comedic pimps? lol i havent heard one thing yet on men who relax and press, only the women, where's the double standard in that?.....
dadamdada23 2 years ago
there are black women like u said who are relaxed who are more educated so on and so forth than a natural sista. u see black men with locs with white women, does that mean they are more intouch with their roots because they have locs?...not a question just a point. so i feel u foreal. theres too much bashing, lol and no but if u were to grow ur fro out and straighten it like mark walberg, then u would "APPEAR" as if ur eurostruck to many.
dadamdada23 2 years ago
u knbow wut, u go hed brotha! i agree with u. i dont think its right to just attack black women who relax like that. i was once relaxed myself. i have family and friends who are still relaxed. but i do have and will make videos from time to time on eurocentrism what affect it does have on our black women today. but i will say my reason for going natural/locking was because of the chemicals in relaxers and what they do to the hair and body over time. it has nothing to do with a black awareness..
dadamdada23 2 years ago 2
great points
faynadia 2 years ago
wow, Im from mississippi too, and I'm just wondering what natural heads do you ever see in mississippi? People here will go damn near bald before they ever think about letting their hair revert back to their natural state! Also, lots of people hear demean me for wearing my hair natural. They're ignorant basically.
KMELIZ21 2 years ago
@KMELIZ21 The reason I went to locs. I was NOT going bald for anybody. Perms destroyed my scalp. I have too much hair to do anything else. Convenience
Rhondi8 1 year ago
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KMELIZ21 2 years ago
Being a formerly relaxed sister, I don't bash or condemn one way or the other. I empathize with the natural sistahs and their wisdom on the health benefits and I won't deny the convenience of relaxed hair. However, I learned my hair does not like relaxer at all, and never has. It was my personal choice to make the change and while I'm proud of my decision I will say that I don't have a problem with anyone unless I am approached by someone who feels the need to tell me I need a perm.
iroc31407 2 years ago 6
I am a natural sistah and I have always loved natural hair. I can't front and I won't front. I remember being excited when my mom permed my hair cause I hated having it styled. It was always a war. She was too heavy handed and handled it harshly so the chemicals were my friend. Even though I was relaxed, i still loved natural hair very much. When I returned to my roots, I was pleased. I went through phases and sometimes I still like straight hair, but I just opt for a blow out instead.
iroc31407 2 years ago 2
YES!
Where does your kind come from?
ladyEulaelie 2 years ago
Every natural head isn't totally comfortable being so & every relaxed chick isn't self-hating...& hopefully we can now understand that 'generalizing's bad...m'kay?' LOL I'm aware of myself, my history & my standing in the world. The texture of my hair doesn't make this any or more or less true. If a person would use my relaxed hair as the basis for a personality/psychological assessment of me then I've no desire to know them. Ppl like this are far too stupid to be taken seriously...imo.
Xoxichtl 2 years ago
9 times out of 10, they're working through the same issues as the ppl that they accuse. Matter fact, LET'S FLIP THE SCRIPT. I see plenty of naturals going through bottles of Kinky Curly to turn their C-Napps into a 'multi-ethnic curls'. & claiming to be 3c's.LOL Let's talk that? Can't play that 'blacker-than-thou' sh*t w/me -- b/c I know better. You have conflicted ppl struggling in private w/their issues -- yet they wanna criticize and put everyone*else* on blast...and PROJECT.
Xoxichtl 2 years ago
As it is with hair. I leaped that good/bad hair hurdle the minute I saw my natural hair. I can only speak for myself but I am comfortable w/everything that encompasses me. I may try to go natural again but that'd entail hacking off all my damn hair & that's just not going to happen. LOL But yeah-- most of us have dealt/will deal will these issues which is why I try to zone out when some of the more judgemental natural heads get on their self-erected pedestals...
Xoxichtl 2 years ago
I'm aware of the 'deep-seated issues' and blah, blah,blah else that go hand in hand w/black hair. I also know that for some ppl -- the situation ain't THAT deep. It's about convenience. Little more than a style choice. Most of us have these 'ideas' that we need to get over. Some more than others. Personally, I've never been one to have issues w/my skin-tone and features. In MY world/opinion, a goodlooking woman is a goodlooking woman & no goodlooking woman has a problem getting a man.
Xoxichtl 2 years ago
Anyway, I'm relaxed. I transitioned for a long while. I was a bit past armpit length...but I texlaxed b/c couldn't control my hair. Simple as that. I miss my coils. I prefer natural to relaxed hair actually. I have no issues with my natural hair & I don't care to be (mis)diagnosed as having all sorts of self-worth issues from smug strangers on the net w/a superiority complex. Take that elsewhere...
Xoxichtl 2 years ago
Too many black men and women are pointing fingers, imo. That's the problem. If one side ain't one whining it's the other side. It just needs to stop. If everyone would exert half as much energy on fixing their own circumstances as they do blaming everyone that they don't know for their emotional/dating/mental/interpersonal issues --- they'd be much better off and more fulfilled in life.
Xoxichtl 2 years ago 3
I gotta agree. Some ppl just get online & 'project' their issues onto everyone. It's annoying. As far as black women failing anyone... *I* failed no one. So I don't take comments like that personally. I'm in school. I work two jobs...I'm handling business. The only male that I owe anything to is my HUSBAND & my future sons. If a brotha can't find a decent sista -- how's that MY probelm. Work it out in therapy...that's the best I can tell him.
Xoxichtl 2 years ago
great points. And to the issue of Black women failing someone, I mean I always here that "black women have attitudes", Well I am black and I get along with black men just fine. Energy is energy. If someone approaches a black women with the preconceived notion that she "may" have an attitude, you are sending out those negative signals. Just approach with respect, love, understanding and all of those you'll get in return...
renaissancea 2 years ago
In my opinion some Black females just like to wear their hair straight, not because they hate their hair but because they just like straight hair lol..
What ever decisions they make in relation to their hair I agree should be done with plenty of research on maintaining their choice.
Trustsweet307 2 years ago
Anyone who would rather go through the burning irritating, relaxing every 3 mos rather than learning to maintain there natural hair is scared to. Scared that they'd be viewed as un-pretty, or less than acceptable. I've talked to women w/ relaxers and asked why no go natural. There was a plethora of excuses ranging from "my head is too big" to "I just like my weaves". The real answer is that they hate or fear their natural hair
innovativethinkin 2 years ago 2
oh my! well, my thoughts: I believe that we our taught indirectly when we are children that our natural hair is less than those w/ European hair. We've had our hair pressed/relaxed as children and told that we are more beautiful that way. We are never told to appreciate our natural hair. Yes straight hair is the westernized way but why can't we still be ourselves in this westernized society. Black women don't see it, but they do have a subconscious hate for their natural hair. (cont'd)
innovativethinkin 2 years ago 3
I also want to just say, If a lady does choose to relax her hair the fact remains that its a chemical which is not the best for the scalp or the hair...but at the same time it doesn't mean it can't grow and still be healthy. I'll just advice any female who relaxes, to do her research on keeping healthy hair. It is possible. and at the same time if you have tried and it isn't working try going natural. There is so much info out there on how to easily maintain it. Either way health is the key :)
Trustsweet307 2 years ago
relaxed hair + healthy = oxymoron. No matter how well you take care of relaxed hair it still will never be as healthy as someone with non-chemically treated hair. Yes there are ways to maintain it, but that's as far as it goes.
innovativethinkin 2 years ago 2
Yes I agree with you, it can't be as healthy as having natural hair..but I believe it can still maintain health. I personally have been natural for a few years, and have friends who have relaxers because they prefer the straight look, while one of my friends recently went natural because she simply wanted to try something different.
I don't believe all black women who relax their hair do it because they have a hidden hatred for their hair. But hey this is just my perspective on the issue.
Trustsweet307 2 years ago
I so, so, so, so, agree. Lots of people believe otherwise. So sad.
KMELIZ21 2 years ago
As far as I'm concerned whether hair is relaxed or natural the ultimate goal should be to keep it healthy...I feel that black women and a lot of other women should really be focusing on healthy hair...Ive seen healthy relaxed hair and I've seen healthy long natural hair. What should really be important especially to the black woman is just keeping her hair healthy. If you choose to do it naturally that's good..if not fine. But either way maintenance and looking after it is truly the key :)
Trustsweet307 2 years ago
umm i just like having a relaxer in my hair cause it makes my life SOO much easier and less painfull. I have a sensitive scalp and combin those naps hurt my head n just makes everything all difficult sooo yea :)
Francoise101 2 years ago
then someone tries to get on you for saying its just easier to maintain! muthafuckas is hypocrites(not u) cuz dreds need maintenance, a fro needs maintenance, and permed hair needs maintenance so i dont get the debate. some people do probably hate themselves but dont say its cuz of your hair. thats on the surface and i think we can all agree that hatred for your self or someone else, comes from the inside. i hate myself cuz of my HAIR!!!!! no no its deeper than that people!
treasurecat03isme 2 years ago 4
Just because I can't see air doesn't mean I don't breathe. Culture is intricately linked to idendtity. Fact. If you are constantly practicing, admiring, imitating someone else's then you have a identify crisis. Don't get me wrong I'm in the same boat.
aewen007 2 years ago
Further more. How can you measure how concious someone is?
Conciousness covers different areas.
Hair being one area. If the hair is permed they are unconcious in the department.
IF they are having sexual relations with the enemy then they are unconcious in the area of racial relations.
But suffice to say with a women who has permed hair you can be pretty safe in assuming she isn't especially interested in her own African/Black/Israelite/Original man/Original Woman culture.
aewen007 2 years ago
Well put
innovativethinkin 2 years ago
This video is bollocks!
If you are torturing yourself to look like your oppressor what does that say about you?
aewen007 2 years ago
first of all I don't have an oppressor,
secondly, Perms, Relaxers, wraps whatever Black women decide to do with their hair is totally up to them, has nothing to do with consciousness...
"IF they are having sexual relations with the enemy then they are unconcious in the area of racial relations" ????
WHAT IN THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
If someone that's black can't date someone of another race or culture then how is that improving race relations?
twalk2008 2 years ago 7
@twalk2008 because you don't have a slave master whipping your back doesn't mean you aren't a slave.
Do you even know what conciousness is?
Are you concious? Are you aware? Do you know who your enemy is? Either you are blind or you choose not to see.
aewen007 1 year ago
@twalk2008
Tell it! My only oppressor is Satan. And what is up with the black guys who feel so threatened by the fact that Black women are finding men out side the Black race, who will be good husbands and fathers?? Why should any Black female deny herself the opportunity for love? A Black men would have to feel very insecure to care. I'm not property to the Black race.
Perms? Being natural doesn't make you more black or proud to be black, so why exalt yourself over BW with relaxers?
ladyEulaelie 1 year ago
@ladyEulaelie "House Niggerism" is worse than the existence of the white man.Go to europe and pay homage to your "Massa"
IMFLORIDA305 1 year ago
@IMFLORIDA305
Why are you telling me to go to europe and "pay homage to some massa" of yours just because I wear my natural hair?? Like what the....
ladyEulaelie 1 year ago
@ladyEulaelie Excuse my ignorance,i did'nt know you were natural.
IMFLORIDA305 1 year ago
@IMFLORIDA305
Its cool.
ladyEulaelie 1 year ago
@IMFLORIDA305
I was explaining to someone who I felt about my hair and what I could and couldn't do with it before I went natural and got to know how easy it was to manage my hair.
NEXT!
ladyEulaelie 1 year ago
@aewen007 you mean YOUR oppressor.
twalk2008 1 year ago
@twalk2008 your so backward on this topic, besides suites and hair are not the same! Suites dont damage your body perms do! Your just trying to approve blk women for pussy points
BlackJesus2153000 1 year ago
cont'd..lol! BUT, I have received negative comments or crticism from women with permed hair or those wearing weaves and braids who are not comfortable enough to wear their own hair out. Now, I can only speak for myself, but I think the negativity you are sensing from the women you mentioned may stem from this kind of reaxn. The way anyone chooses to wear ones hair is a personal choice. No one has the right to judge anything about a person, for any reason, especially not by their hair. Good vid!
whinnylocs 2 years ago
I have been wearing locs for about 3 months now and I absolutely love them! I have tons of videos where I talk about ways I maintain my hair and how I feel about it; I also have a hair journey. Unlike some of the other "naturals" you speak of or in general I don't condem women with perms. I used to have them, and I have experienced the pros and cons using them. But locs are my preferred choice. I don't think permed women are any less conscious than I am.
whinnylocs 2 years ago
perm is short permanent but its only temporary. do what you do but chemicals in any ones hair cant be healthy
balancedeath 2 years ago 2
Amazing, you did a great job brother. It's just another form of divide and conquer.
TheLordsBlessings 2 years ago
I have been on both sides of the spectrum, I've been both relaxed and natural. When I was relaxed I didn't do it because I wanted to look like someone else or as a result of self hatred. When I was natural it was because I wanted to do something different to my. I have tremendous respect for all sisters relaxed or natural and feel that we are wasting time judging one another for personal decisions.
Ruciinip 2 years ago
Yes I was conscious when I whore a perm.
I just do like the Chemicals in them..
Nice vid Bless..
HealingHerbsByRene 2 years ago
because by societies standards that european look is what's acceptable ethnic hair to them is threatning and inapproiate why???
BlaccBoii 2 years ago 3
I'm glad you posted this, I kept coming across videos of guys downing relaxed sisters...and everyone's defense is that we want to be white & we look to Europeans for beauty...I look everywhere for beauty & I perceive ppl way past their hair...unfortunately others see hair & make assumptions based on that which is truly pitiful
d0llipop 2 years ago
im natural but i agree with u on SOME points
BrittanyJackson128 2 years ago
To be quite honest I don't care if natural sistas talk down on girls with perms. Cause girls with perms be doing the same damn thing, lol. There was even a video made about natural sistas being ugly. So what? And yeah sistas do need to wera their natural texture of hair. Stop walking around with straight hair. A lot of black Americans in general are white-washed. It's ok to wear straight hair occasionally or if you naturally have straight hair. But I see where blaqueindigo is coming from.
gmcmim 2 years ago 6
@gmcmim whitewashed????....U R A DUMB ASS
djones851 1 year ago
I understand what you are saying unlike some of the people that have commented on your video before. As a black woman I feel like some the women who go natural do down women who choose to straighten their hair. Their comments make me feel like i'm inferior because I don't choose to look like them. How I choose to wear my hair is the least of the problems within the black community as you said. Also not all women with straight hair have used relaxers some have used straigten or they use wigs.
sexynisey313 2 years ago
hair is a representation of what a person believe beauty should look like. if u are CHEMICALLY PERMANATLY ALTERIN YOUR HAIR. THAT IS A PROBLEM. Extreme exhibit of how u think beauty should look. consciousness is not just havin the knowledge but ACTIN N DISPLAYIN TRUTH N BEAUTY
qyietdove 2 years ago
Nigga shut yo bitch ass up.. this nigga all concerned bout a chick hair nigga please. LOL
BruBoyz 2 years ago
lol.....heheheh
RosieShu 2 years ago
Are you sure Eva is relaxed???
focusin2002 2 years ago
Yep we as black people have been brainwashed to think european its better. Its been beaten into our ancestors mind that black hair is horrible and that we should be ashamed to look african
TrillCoop 2 years ago 11
What do you think about women who wear perm who have always talked negatively about women with natural hair? They wear perms because they think natural hair is UGLY. Did you see Tyra's Good/Bad Hair Show? I think it is about time that women with natural hair claim their beauty directly in the face of women who wear perms and weaves, because they HAVE ALWAYS looked at us as being ugly to the point of frying their hair and going to weave extreme to AVOID LOOKING LIKE US.
lovethesetits 2 years ago 6
i love black women if they have perms or not but perms were created from black oppression and passed down just like slave food so called soul food so no matter what is said to me it is self hatred or a cover up so they can fit into white society fo survive. when you look at the trees and plants they grow up toward the sun and so does our hair which lets u know that you are naturally in tune with nature and original when i see dead hair 2 me it symbolizes a dead or dying mind in most cases peace
khepruuu 2 years ago
Amen I do agree..Naturals need to stop talking down to relaxers because we are all people of one race that needs to stick together!
noaharc1 2 years ago 4
I agree, but some women with relaxers look down on naturals as well. You can't just point the finger at naturals because both relaxed and natural women look down on each other.
kraziibutkool 2 years ago
freestyle comment ...
this guy told me that he thinks a lot of permed hair looks "petrified" - stiff and fried to death and I agree, natural hair has a unique personality- you can stand two permed women together and 9 times out of 10 it will pretty much look the same (no braids/weave) but you put two naturals together?? man, diversity truly is the spice of life!!! :)
PS ur B Scott was on point and I luv me some B!
vierra01 2 years ago
Negative....put a girl with a perm that doesn't know how to care for hair & one that does...there's a difference....put a natural who knows how to care for her hair & one that doesn't THERE IS VERY MUCH SO A DIFFERENCE....just because you're permed doesn't limit you to one style....Healthy hair is beautiful permed or not....
d0llipop 2 years ago 2
yeah there is a definite diff. with folk with unhealthy hair, What I was saying is that i notice perms are like an equalizer to blk hair, it takes out the personality of the natural texture of hair and to me makes it all look the same. In my own personal opinion, I can even see a difference between pressed and permed, pressed still leaves the hair with its own personality where as permed doesnt. Im not talking about style im talking about texture appearance .
vierra01 2 years ago
I think your refering to volume & body....I respect your opinion...but my hair doesn't automatically tame itself....ppl give their hair a personality whether their curling it, coloring it, straighten it....it's all about the choosing the right product to make your healthy & bouncy & vibrant.....hair doesn't do that on it's own...but again I respect your opinion
d0llipop 2 years ago
no i wasn't talking about abt volume and body its kinda hard to xplain but its all good and i respect ur opinion too
vierra01 2 years ago
its like they say what i eat dont make u poop, i can state my position on a topic all day even have the gall to think im better than someone...but that dont make it true , lets stop censoring each other- we are all free to say and think what we choose to.
And to the black male/black female sex wars...oh well whatever will be, will be!
vierra01 2 years ago
I have natural hair and I dont think the other women are condemning women that choose to perm their hair. I think being an advocate for nappy hair is cool. You yourself showed why...If black women don't advocate nappy hair WHO will? not mainstream media, not the mags u prescribe to...if we don't talk about the natural beauty in our hair not only will no one else but they will/do tell us our natural should be hidden and is bad
vierra01 2 years ago 4
It's kinda sad that uz copying LoveBscott
XXXVisionsXXX 2 years ago
XXXVisionsXXX:
Are you Serious? it was a PARODY!!
What's sad is everyone else caught on....
TRUST,I don't wanna COPY ANYTHING from B.scott.
twalk2008 2 years ago
Just becouse he's gay.....ok, I see.
bye bye
XXXVisionsXXX 2 years ago
XXXVisionsXXX
that's what you're stuck on?
you actually believe that comment was in reference to his sexuality? fa real?
You have a long way to go... you might be dealing with a little Interplay of your own....
twalk2008 2 years ago
wear a suit and changing the molecular structure of your hair is not the same thing sir.. BAD COMPARISON
MIXMASHUP 2 years ago
MIXMASHUP: can clothing have a cultured background?
if the answer is yes, the comparsion is valid.
twalk2008 2 years ago
co-signed
ContraBond 2 years ago
thank you..
MIXMASHUP 2 years ago
MIXMASHUP: forward the thank you to contrabond, I didn't co-sign.
twalk2008 2 years ago
LOL you're intro is HILAR!!!
cutiepiedev 2 years ago
this vid is bullshit, perm hair is unhealthy for the head so woman its no ok get that shit out yo head
goodendaddy 2 years ago
Goodendaddy: your approach is partly why they continue to use relaxers.
thanks!
twalk2008 2 years ago
My brother you bring up some very good points. Especially in how others should preface their points more carefully. However, I will have to say that as a general rule of thumb , in the black community, there are more people who do not have knowledge of self than those that do. That is my vantage point of consciousness.
Great positive video. Keep it up.
phoneke 2 years ago
Thanks for your veiw on the situation. I am a 26 year old african american woman, trying to decide weather to stay natural.
sexychevy 2 years ago
thanks.
twalk2008 2 years ago
I so agree if a person want to get a perm that is their preference. I have natural hair and LOVE IT but I refuse put others down if they perfer their hair to be straight. peaceandluv
sexy2lvrn 2 years ago 3
I am 26 years old also and I have natural hair I believe that you should stay natural. Hair is thicker and healthier in my opinion,but the question is what ever style you decide "are you comfortable in your hair" bc of society it takes time to become comfortable in natural hair bc how society perceives it. But also you have to look at this way many years ago their weren't enought natural hair styles to work with but now we do. Hey if you go to perm just take care of it peaceandluv
sexy2lvrn 2 years ago 2
LOL the intro is sooooooooo funny!
VersatileMind4Christ 3 years ago
How do you know every black women in that "King" Magazine has permed hair??
Can't a black person have naturally straight hair?? I do.
Not every one women black has permed hair.
shortygrl14 3 years ago
I don't. and that obviously wasn't my arguement.
did you actually understand the point of the video????
twalk2008 3 years ago
Honestly, we will never know if thats how those women ACTUALLY feel. In the end, its just hair and if you let your hair define YOU natural or relaxed there is a way bigger issue you have to deal with within yourself.
mzcoca24 3 years ago
true indeed.
twalk2008 3 years ago
well i understand why shorty said that, not that wasnt your argument but you made the statement that every woman had permed hair....you didnt say I bet or I wonder if.....
vierra01 2 years ago
I feel that people put too much emphasis on hair period. I recently went natural and I made the decision for myself to have healthier hair. I do not feel this makes me better than a woman with relaxed hair. However, the main issue I feel is the stigma that natural hair is unattractive and not as accepted and some women choose to relax their hair because they feel they will not be accepted.
mzcoca24 3 years ago
How did I miss this video excellent. I love it.
tssexychanel 3 years ago
Thanks TSsexychanel.
twalk2008 3 years ago
Would you feel concious if you permed your hair like in the 80s.
kobla02 3 years ago
People shouldn't put down other people because they relax.
But then you also have women who put others down because they don't relax, as if wearing natural hair is somehow unnatural. Some people are just petty. Relaxing should be an option and not a requirement, but to many black women hair relaxing is synonymous with breathing lol. Yes I am natural. Rather that than allowing Nair to gradually seep into my brain. just stop buying them and stop buyin into them...you know?
Herm0sa 3 years ago 8
Agree 100%.I don't mind seeing a black person who's conscience and wear their hair in a natural do but, but it is divisive to assume that people with natural hairstyles have a monopoly on afrocentricity. Division defeats the whole pupose of the Black pride movement.
tincredible 3 years ago
"kelly clarkston eddie murphy" LOL
ARTHEROPY 3 years ago
i wear my hair natural because i live in awhite neighborhood, and there are a ton of white gurls who are jelous of the thickness and the curls, shit i could never relax my hair again.
accepteveryone17 3 years ago 3
Perms are what white people use to make their hair curly
Relaxers are what black people use to make their hair straight
laohung 3 years ago 6