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  • Dr. Bellonzi, not trying to be a wise guy or anything, but I've been on a statin since I was diagnosed with MS 6 years ago. My cholesterol was always in the 'gooid' range prior to that 1st exacerbation and then shot up to 225 in a few months with no change in diet. Any words or comments you could add on this is very much appreciated.

  • Lost interest in all things that I once enjoyed like hobbies, sex and getting out in the fresh air. It' almost like being in a partial coma and if this is supposed to lead me to better health, I'd rather have high cholesterol.

  • Thanks doc, I have taken this to heart. Since being on statins, my joints ache all the time, I'm totally lacking energy and napping all the time. I have completely

  • I was turned down for health insurance because my cholesterol number was 230!

    Never had a heart problem in my life, but my primary doctor demanded that I knock that number down regardless.

  • Yep, my dad died of a massive bleeding stroke 3 years after he started taking statins. And yes, his body also fell apart rapidly before he died, I am pretty sure it was the statins.

  • My cholesterol was 252. My doctor prescribed a drug to lower it. I told her I wasn't going to take the drug and that I would do it with diet.. I basically went vegetarian though I still eat meat on occasion and in 3 months it was down to 179.

  • Cholesterol is the biggest health myth out there. In fact, it's been shown that people with more cholesterol live longer. It all matters with inflammation. Once you get inflammation down, you have nothing to worry about.

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  • All what he says is pure truth, I can confirm it by my own personal experience. Thank you Doctor, you should be a model for all those doctors out there who just write prescriptions and at the end destroy your health instead of saving you!

  • Thank you for this Dr. My doctor would benefit from talking to you. He is obsessed by statins!

  • Oh no, now psychetruth is not only working against psychiatry, but now cardiology. Jesus whoever runs these Scientology videos should be shut down. True, medications can have harmful effects on people in some cases, but those cases are outnumbered by the amount of cases where people have truly found benefit from these medications whether they be statins, antifungals, SSRIs, antipsychotics, antibiotics, etc.. I wish people could look at both sides of the issue being investigated...

  • @eBiology I once tried to teach tai chi to someone who was destroyed by Lipitor. There was nothing I could do for him. The guy's nervous system and muscles had been completely ruined. He had irreversible neuropathy just trying to make his doctor happy and move his cholesterol a few points.

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  • @eBiology My own doctor's office is plastered with Lipitor advertisements, she has Lipitor pens, stick-it memo pads, inserts, mini-posters. No wonder all she has is Lipitor on the brain. Shoulda seen the look on her face when I told her about my Lipitor damaged student, she had no idea that could happen.

  • @eBiology And also, I should say that I am rather sick of people like you accusing people who are critical of modern pharmacy of being in league with Scientology. The whole reason you do that, is to marginalize and invalidate. Everyone knows Scilons are mind-control cultists right? Who would listen to those whackos? By accusing pharma-critical people of association with a mind control cult this is supposed to automatically invalidate their ideas, points of view and experiences.

  • @SFJane Yea but I wish you could look at both sides. Possible side effects of Lipitor can be severe, but can't you consider the amount of people that have been saved from heart attacks? It's awfully ignorant of you to outright blast these medications just because you know one person who had adverse effects. There are many people who thank the manufacturers of Lipitor for a long, prosperous life. And why are you showing so much aggression over a medication....

  • @eBiology Don't think for a moment I am not up to date on the latest bs on the history of statins and truth about heart disease and cholesterol numbers.. No one has been save from heart attacks for crying out loud, we all know about studies which show people with ultra high TC never getting heart attacks and people with low TC coming down with heart attacks, Its a myth statins protect you from anything and the sooner we can educate people the less will be harmed by these poisons

  • @SFJane You need some serious psychiatric help. In my medical program, we had to study the basics of psychiatry and I can tell by your lack of organization, paranoia, and delusions that you need help.

  • @SFJane I think I'm going to go into cardiac arrest just reading your reply, I mean you're kidding me right? You need help.

  • @eBiology I'm studying medicine right now, so I think I know a little bit more about modern medicine than you. Peter Breggin's books have received few positive reviews and have been criticized by competent medical professionals. I have never touched a drug in my life and never will, if anyone here is on drugs, it must be you considering how disorganized your speech is and how paranoid your replies are.

  • @eBiology Since you seem to want to keep interacting with me, let's stop mucking up Mike's comments. Come over to my channel, check out my recovery blog link, and come stalk me there and tell me about my disorganized writing and about what kinds of treatments I need. See you there!

  • @eBiology Yea, sure medical skepticism and fact finding should be labeled a disorder, like political dissent was in russia? What should be I on doc?Let me guess, is it my serotonin levels that are imbalanced? Can't be, it's the ssris that cause that. Perhaps my dopamine levels are imbalanced?, No.. can't be that because its the neuroleptics that cause the chemical imbalance. You know what, I can smell a pharma shill a mile away, until you can channel breggin or whitaker in your sleep, we're done

  • @SFJane I feel sorry for you. You could definitely benefit from antipsychotics, they would help clear the cloud over your head known as extreme paranoia.

  • @eBiology Do you have any idea, that even now, there are bloggers who have written entire articles about people, like you, getting indoctrinated into the wonders of big pharma in med school? We've seen your kind 1k times before. You already embody the worst of what people hate about psychiatrists. You marginalize anyone critical of your facts, remote diagnose them without their own self-reported input, label them cultists and recommend chemical lobotomies for those that disagree. You're perfect.

  • @eBiology tell your product image control bosses that you need more training. you are not good at this. I can smell your bought and paid stench through the comments MrE "the makers of lipitor want you to know statins will make you live long time- now buy some k?"

  • @SFJane I'm not paid by anyone. I'm a student so I have to pay to study medicine. The complete opposite of the point you are trying to make. Plus, I don't have a Masters Degree, you don't need one to study medicine, you need a Bachelor's Degree. You need to get up off your butt and start going to college, study health sciences or something... instead of studying flawed books and further dwelling in your paranoia.

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  • @SFJane Well... at least the last reply didn't sound too 'out of this world'... you did mention you are a writer though. I'm going to stop replying however, as we don't share too much in common and it is resulting in excessive arguments which I'm getting tired of. (I'm trying to be nice this time)

  • @eBiology you started the entire conversation. You think I feel bad for calling you a shill? I don't. You started slinging the adhoms. You dared to accuse me of being a scientologist. Do you know Ive protested in those V for Vendetta style shakedowns of scientology chains? You dared practice medicine without a license and made remote diagnoses without a prior patient history. You're evil dude. You embody the worst traits of doctors. You are no healer. Maybe you should shill for pharma.

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  • @eBiology @eBiology you said you weren't coming back anymore? you were done? tired of excessive arguments? then you totally contradict yourself, first stating you are not practicing anything, then stating I need help? which is it? do I or don't I? what help do I need doc? what''s the IDC code? which 'anti' drug is supposed to help me? Aren't we even going to try therapy first before resorting to brain changing meds? You are NOT psychologically fit to be a doctor responsible for medical care.

  • @SFJane I don't intend on specializing in psychiatry.

  • @eBiology I'd love to argue with you any time. Just not here anymore. Come to my blog and drop me a line, tell me you are ebiology and we'll argue stats, studies, whatever you want. I'll be happy to learn you so you can be an informed doctor and not one that simply looks down at his patients as being the inferior uneducated subjects that they are, too stupid to know how good pills are for all their needs. Come to my corner of the web in my area of knowledge and we'll talk. I'll be gentle.

  • @SFJane I would never look down at my patients, the reason I'm working against you so much is because saying the pharmaceuticals have not helped anyone is kind of biased. I'm a very friendly person otherwise. I will stop debating here though, and maybe I will drop you a line. (By the way, I think I mentioned that I want to specialize in orthopedic surgery, so I would not be prescribing many medications anyways)

  • @eBiology I am working against you for a similar reason. I was nearly killed by psych meds as a teen. (wrote about it on my blog) Ive seen people be irreparably destroyed by pharma and I will not be silenced about my criticisms. I am just one person speaking out its not like I have millions to spam the world with propaganda. I'd like to think I'm a friendly person too, I teach people tai chi to relax. But I'm also a fighter and I will not be marginalized or dxd in a yt vid by a stranger

  • @SFJane I'm sorry to hear that, all I have left to say is nice talking to you.

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  • @eBiology "There are many people who thank the manufacturers of Lipitor for a long, prosperous life." You sound like a commercial! This is what pegs you as a pharma shill, You are not a med student at all. You've got a point-by-point rebuttal list sitting by your side so you can dis Breggin when someone brings him up but your masters didn't arm you with the knowledge we have from Whitaker. You're a fraud. A paid shill doing some damage and spin control. We see you now. Busted.

  • lower cholesterol = cancer

  • No responsible doctor would prescribe a statin without sound reason. He's simply irresponsible - like most chiropractors. He can't prescribe drugs, so he will give you a "spinal adjustment" or some hokus-pokus supplement. It amazes me that people fall for their lines of baloney.

  • I took 10mg of Lipitor for 4 years to lower my cholesterol. It as 200 at the time and my GP recommended it. In January of this year, I began forgetting to take my daily dose. Muscle/Joint pain set in. I decided to stop completely until I could get back in to see my doctor. I have become extremely ill since January, memory loss, fatigue, depression, muscle and joint lain, legs hurt if I walk around the block, headaches, neck pain. I have had many labs done, nothing is indicating that somet

  • people would be healthier if they shot their doctor than listening them as they give them statins, chemotherapy and other poisons.

  • We get the idea. Eat right and exercise.

  • thanks good advice

  • Since taking statins I have a bad appetite and have lost weight, my libido is reduced, I am tense all the time and feel depressed . I had a suspected T.I.A. but found out that in fact it was a migraine . My doctor refused to take me off the statin but seeing this video I am not taking another pill. Thankyou so much .

  • My statin drug manufacturer is Zydus manufactured in India. I stopped taking it. IPeople don't just trust your doctor. Investigate.

  • The absolute risk for someone to have a heart attack in any one year, regardless of health condition, is 0.2 percent, per year(Professor Emeritus Joel Kauffman-Organic Chemistry-14 drug patents. Statins do not have any benefit(Dr. Jerome Kassirer-Former Head Editor of the New England Journal of Medicine-Kidney specialist)

  • My husband had a stint put in Nov 2008 and was put on Lipitor and Plavix. He did a 180 degree turn on his lifestyle, lost 65 pounds, does cardio exercise daily and eats right. Now his cholesterol is 78 TOTAL. His cardiologist still doesn't want to take him off the Lipitor. You have a right to make a choice for yourself.

  • any health care professional will tell you: do not to stop any cholesterol-lowering drug abruptly (because cholesterol levels may rebound dangerously). if anything, they will taper it slowly

  • My Mom and dad are taking statins prescribed by their doctor.

    This was done WITHOUT trying improved diet first.

    Someone making money?

  • My cholesterol i discovered today is at 222 that really scares me i dont know what to do

  • @bluediver2 my cholesterol level is 265 and that dosn't scare me since I know it is my liver, but I take fish oil and eat fish like Eskimos in Greenland who have high cholesterol but eat a lot of fish FAT so NO Heart Disease in them compared to Americans!

  • @bluediver2 222 its not that bad, why are you so scared

  • He makes some good points but taking care of yourself is not always as easy as it may seem. I suffer with depression and sometimes find it hard getting out of bed in the morning, let alone exercising

  • I was just put on zocor for high choletrohl nd I never had hcholestrohl in my life! but was involed in Katrina issues and lost my mom so stressful after that is when my choletrohl went up. I have epilepsy and anticonvulsants. I stopped the zocor it was cramping my legs and Im doing what your saying my life style

    loosing weight. Zocor I had chest pains

    Im feelilng better loosing weight

  • I worry alot about the potential side effects of "big pharma" prescription drugs, I have always gravitated toward a natural alternative. For the longest time I had no idea that such an alternative even existed for cholesterol! I thought Rx was the only choice. Sterolyn is brilliant no side effects at all for me. I really appreciate this product.

  • PART 2

    Recently statins benefit was found to be due to it's anti inflammatory property quite modest though, on par with aspirin. Omega 3 long chain fatty acid outperforms stains by a long shot. Natural dietary and supplements of anti inflammatories and antioxidants minimize LDL oxidation as well as inflammation. Only oxidized LDL will become part of plaques but only part.

  • PART 1

    This video is a huge step towards the full story about stains and vascular disease. I wish to add: the many form of initial injury (cholesterol is not one of them) that provokes inflammation that sets in motion the cascade of events ending in atherosclerosis. .

  • Statins do lower cholestrol, but they raise a lot of people's liver enzymes.  Not enought to cause damage but that's what happens in most cases. I understand that some people are gentically predisposed to getting high cholestrol what happened to exercise and eating healthy. people now days just want to pop a pill and not have to work for the resluts. I lowered my cholestrol 45 points from exercising and eating right daily. It took me 8 mths but i got it down w/out any drugs.

  • Funny thing, though, is that she acknowledged that my LDL and triglyceride levels were okay, but it was the HDL of 24 which was concerning her. I wonder if there are specific dietary or exercise regimens I can start to raise my HDL without drugs.

  • quite the low fat diet

  • I've been on Lipitor, then switched to simivastatin. I have had serious digestive problems and leg pain since taking them -- about 6 months. I'm a little worried about stopping because my doc told me it can be dangerous to stop...and would be a lifelong medication. I am just going to taper down and quit. I'm making the best lifestyle changes that I can -- stop smoking, exercise, eating mediterranean type diet, and EXERCISE some more.

  • Yeah, I am starting to look into the effects of statins drugs because I recently started taking one. It is part of a triad of health problems I was diagnosed with: hypertension, Type 11 Diabetes, and low HDL levels. At the time, I didn't think too much about being prescribed a statin (pravastatin) because I was in pain from the diabetes and and if the doctor said I had a cholesterol problem I took her at her word.

  • Remember the word balance when you do exercise because there is such a thing as too much exercise. That's the complexity of this amazing machine the human body that we've all inherited. Balance is key... too much water, too much exercise, too much food definitely a no go.

  • jkhn

  • Well said and done. Fortifying these message are the studies of Dr. Ron Rosedale and Dr. Mark Hyman and recent publications by the New England Journal. Bravo!

  • So, what are the qualifications of chiropractors in the USA.

    It's not a university course recognised by the state, is it?

    Is he allowed by law to call himself DR. if he doesn't have a genuine university degree?

    Not criticising, just questioning because I don't know about the USA education system and there are a lot of quacks around that we have to be aware of, as well.

  • Both medical doctors and chiropractors are licensed in the state they work in. Chiropractors have to get a doctorate degree in an approve college of chiropractic. They are considered doctors. Chiros are the most recognized and accepted form of alternative health by conventional medicine. Insurance companies will often cover chiropractic treatment.

    Despite that, he is a Certified Clinical Nutritionist this is a person with a degree in nutrition and post graduate work in bio-chemistry.

  • Thank you, psychetruth.

    Does Medicare cover chiropractic treatment in the same way as they cover conventional medicine?

    It doesn't get recognition here in the Netherlands or some other countries I've been such as Australia.

    Insurances (here and elsewhere) cover all kinds of quackery including homoeopathy so I doubt that this is a reliable guide of whether something is reliable and scientific treatment or not.

  • I doubt medicare covers chiropractic. Private insurance in the US is very strict though.

    Private insurance in the US will not cover homeopathy, acupuncture, Chinese medicine or even nutrition consulting, etc. It pretty much only covers conventional medicine, physical therapy, chiropractic and psychiatry.

    One reason it will often cover chiropractic is because it's often effective and much cheaper than conventional approaches such as surgery or life long pain meds.

  • He has good common sense I bet he would know this without any certication

  • the thing about common sense is... its not that common!

  • @dilemmix Yeah, and a lot of the quacks have an MD after their name. A person who has been awarded a Doctorate degree can put that title (doctor) into their name....as in Doctor of Engineering, Doctor of Psychology...etc, etc.

  • I had horrible side effects with Lipitor. my body aches a lot. I'm not sure if the pain is muscle. I can't sleep at night because my back aches like crazy. I told my doctor that I refuse to take Lipitor.

  • A very valid information. The case of misuse of pharmaceutical drugs is indeed a contentious topic and is one that should be looked at seriously. Westerners have become far too reliant on excesses regarding drug implementation.

  • Awesome awesome video! This is just another medical scam like childhood bipolar and childhood ADHD, folks, Big Pharma creates diseases where none existed before, than they come out with a non curative *maintenance* drug that you are supposed to take forever to deal with their artificial health scams. Then you get iatrogenesis. You are not patients anymore, you are consumers and your doctors get drug pamphlets and they *sell* those drugs to you for pharma at the office visit, thanks Vincent!

  • Its so great that we finally have the drugs that all these sick children need in order to be healthy again! I mean whats the alternative? Have them eat right and exercise pfff yeah right! LOL I am just glad we have an easy fix.

  • Did you see where Big Pharma is now going after kids to take statins? Unreal!

  • he did not talk about HDL or LDL cholesterol.

  • Yes, he did talk about HDL and LDL, at about 2:25.

  • I'd like to hear the same from an MD, rather

    than a chiropractor.

  • go to the college of chiropractics website and look up the trainings chiros get compared to MDs, and while you are at, ask yourself what makes you think someone with an MD is a better messenger than a chiro? What you think MDs don't lie? Think MDs are totally impartial? Think being an MD means you are never wrong? Think MDs are never misinformed and always current on the latest studies? I guess you have trust in the title *MD* because you have never been injured by bad medical advice or practice

  • After watching a further video by this poster,

    I am going to rethink my position. It is indeed true that I haven't to date been "injured" by bad med practice or advice; however the restrictions placed by the AMA

    on what is considered to be "acceptable" medical practice, plus the across the board

    rejection of alternative healthcare providers

    is beginning to cause me a bit of concern.

  • He's certified in clinical nutrition which means he has post graduate training in bio-chemistry.

    This guys information is very solid.

  • I did consider a major in bio-chem when I was

    in college...I'll take a closer look at clinical

    nutrition in regards to sound medical practice,

    and thanks for the return comments from all who

    responded!

  • Rather than an authoritative source, the benefit of this channel is to raise awareness of topics neglected in the media so that the viewer might be enticed to do further research on their own.

  • a good MD will tell you the same

  • 5 fifth

  • Excellent, thank you

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