impressive, please tell me how often and howl ong youve been training, a general outline of the volume of pullups etc u do would be nice per workout. Keep training i want to see you get to 40
I always respect someone who moves his ass and kudo to you for this .
However I have to point out 3 things
1- you seem to "kip" a lot : you're supposed to train your arms and your back not your hips .
2- your chin seems to barely go over the bar . This is not supposed to be a muscle up but I think you should go a little higher and extend a little less your neck .
3- doing them slower without using momentum is better
also for your joints slightly bent your elbow in bottom position
@13andincrediblycut 3 months+ of comments and saying your videos will be up soon , and you still don't have any up , hardly anyones believing you so whats the point with all these comments.
@13andincrediblycut thats nothin i can do about 150 pull up perfect form and i just turned 16 when i was your age though i blew past 100 easy, nice work pussy
Who care about full range of motion when you are working out. Besides the fact that full range of motion isn't always good for the joints, when training, the body doesn't know the difference nor does it care if you aren't locking out the joints. Anyways all the purists out there suck it, each persons responds differently to exercise.
@bigarch10 LOL no he didn't...all the way down to straight arms, pause...then all the way up so the chin is over the bar, without raising it to cheat!
@2ndhandlion He did raise his chin but ergonomically its recommended that you keep a slight bend so that you do not use your joints to support your weight.
you dont do them fully)) there is absolutely no point to lift your chin up while doing them! if you cant do 30 then just try to do 20 but nice and corect once))
niceee.. u are strong.. you must have really good cardio as well.. u dont appear to be a power lifter or anything but your not only striong for your size as shown but you must have great breathing to be able to do that many pull ups.. great job
ok well this is my last post lol.. since no one agrees with me ! in a competition where you can do just the positive part of the rep .. without swinging your body (kipping).. this is awesome! so if you set those rules yes this is awesome! once again, this guy is very impressive, keep up the good work i know he will be up to 40.
Now that I have ranted at all the haters. These are pretty legit imo, good work. I'd like any of the keyboard warrior critics post a video that can even touch this.
Those are not pullups ! just hurtling up and down with momentum to achieve a lot of reps is pointless, you're only kidding yourself on, slowly up, pause at the top and back down to a full arm extension without all these half and quarter reps, only full reps count, full body motion through the complete range of motion, if you want to learn it properly look up Steve Maxwell, he's the real deal.
Yes they are!! If you want to talk like you are the man, post your own video showing us how it is done. Military rules brother, THEY are the real deal!!
@tdo79 sorry bro.. there are two parts to a rep an explosive positive and a controlled negative... if you are not controling a negative it is free falling and in fact is giving you a rest. so he gets .05 seconds rest each rep which equals 15 seconds. so no way is it good form no way. still impressive but not true form.
Don't be sorry. True form eh? By whose standards, and how are you supposed to measure that? As many have already pointed out, all that matters is that you use full range of motion, and the you are not using your body to generate inertia (kipping). This is the standard in all branches of the US Military. The longer your muscles are under stress, the more they will get fatigued. The idea is to do as many as you can, hence, go as fast as you can.
Improper form, going fast makes them easier hence less impressive, muscles under tension for less time equals less strength, chin not OVER the bar on ANY of the reps, not pausing at the bottom AND top of the exercise, craning the chin upwards to push it higher to make it look as though he's pulling higher than he is, i don't do pullups i do chins but i do them in 100% proper form, at the end of the day stop kidding yourself on and being obsessed with reps
By that logic, if I can make a pull up harder than what you are doing, your form is invalidated. In fact, as long as we are playing God of pull-up form, I demand that to be official each pull-up be no less than 10 seconds on the way up, pause for 5 seconds at the top, 10 seconds on the way down, pause for 5 seconds at the bottom. Anything faster than this will be easier right, and therefore less impressive, and not proper form? Reps are the only way to gauge progress on a pull-up.
@tdo79 Rep count means nothing when none of those reps count, quality over quantity every time, if you can't do the exercise in proper form don't do the exercise, simple, you're one of those people who think that it's ok doing 100 pushups but none of them are done properly, what's the point? proves nothing apart from you know how to cheat on the exercise.
Gary, are you not listening to me? When have I EVER said it is okay to use improper form? The question of what is proper form is what we are talking about. If you are using proper form, rep count is the ONLY way to gauge progress, hence the obsession. Max pull-up tests are administered in every branch of the Military to gauge progress on pull up strength. The rules they give are that you must use full range of motion, and not use inertia to help you (kipping); nothing about tempo.
@tdo79 We'll have to agree to disagree, to me using momentum to hurtle up and down makes the exercise easier and thus invalidates the rep as does not having your adams apple level with or higher than the bar, pullups with the chin craned up high to try to validate the rep don't cut it, as to someone else's comment that you can't maintain proper form when you've done 20 or so reps, well yeah that's right so that's when you'd stop.
Right on. Maybe you should update wikipedia, and notify all branches of the US Military, because they are all confused. How about I try another approach....How many perfect pull-ups can you do?
@tdo79 If that's the US military standard then it's poor, you have to do the exercise properly or it's no good and you might as well not bother, i do chins not pull ups and i don't think about "how many can i do today" as they form part of an exercise program.
Yeah Gary, they do absolutely NOTHING for you, you fucking idiot. The only reason you are bitching is because you are a weak piece of shit and can't do half the pull-up this guy can. If you want to prove how superior your form is, post a video of you doing pull-ups as fast as you can, full range of motion, and no kipping, and see if you can beat him. We'll see whose training technique has proven results and whose hasn't.
Loses the argument big time and then has to resort to foul language, maybe i've hit a nerve there about the US military, maybe if they listened to someone like Steve Maxwell who actually knows what he's talking about they might perform better than they do. As i said before don't try to reinterpret my words, i never claimed the pullups this guy did do nothing, they obviously do something but could be better, i don't do pullups i do chins, by the way clean your mouth out
As far as cleaning my mouth...fuck off. Anyway, since when did I lose the argument? You never made that claim huh? Your exact quote 'it's no good and you might as well not bother', how am I supposed to misinterpret that? It is not just the US, the SAS's pft is the same way; you need some way to measure performance, and this is the obvious solution. Full range of motion, no kipping. However, since you and your fuck buddy Steve no best, what SHOULD the requirements be for these tests?
@tdo79 ok each pullup done from a dead hang position, pull up to adams apple level or above the bar hold the position for a second then slowly back down controlling the rep all the way to the dead hang straight arm position, simple eh ? anyway the thing is it's this video we're commenting on and the technique is poor
@Gary1497 Simple, maybe, but not clearly defined. To clarify, please further explain the following: Hold at adams apple for a full 1 second? What if it is .95 seconds, does that not count then? How do we determine the timing, do we start a stop watch once the adams apple clears? Define what 'controlling the rep' means on the way back down. My definition of control may be different that yours.
@tdo79 Lol, you know what i mean, control the WHOLE rep, wouldn't matter if you pause for .95 or a full second, that's splitting hairs, the guy in the video struggles to get his chin up to and over the bar and only does so by craning and pushing his neck up as though he's squawking like a seagull, chin has to be over the bar not below or level with it, over it and without all the neck contortions.
@Gary1497 Well, what is the cut-off time then? .75 seconds, .5? This notion of controlling the whole rep is vague also, so you will have to give me something more specific. Really, you are talking about how long it takes from going from the up position, to the bottom. So how long does it need to be in order to be official. You may think I am splitting hairs, but in order to judge form in a competitive matter, I need to know the 'correct' form is and be able to communicate that to the competitors
@tdo79 No specific cut off time, from a dead hang position pullup to the adams apple pause at the top and then lower under control until you are in a dead hang position again then start the next rep, nothing complicated just simple dead hang pullups.
How long do you need to pause at the top? What defines control and how do you measure it? Control is an ambiguous term, so you need to get more specific so we have something to go by.
So the answer is that you have no specifics to replace my specifics? Until you can come up with a better system, that is measurable, I will stick to what works. Full range of motion, no kipping. As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, that is probably why they have it set up like that in the first place. Hmm.
@tdo79 But that's the whole point, the guy in the video is not using full range, he's barely getting his chin up to the bar and only then by doing the seagull thing, so he's not using full range motion.
Wow, I think we are actually making progress here. :) Now if we are talking about his range of motion, you may have a point. He may have not locked fully at the bottom, and cleared his chin at the top, (although it is hard to tell from where the camera is located). It is pretty close, but I would not argue if you ding him there. However, if you are talking about how fast he is going, I have to disagree with you, as there is no way to judge tempo and pauses.
@tdo79 well at the end of the day for me range of motion is the thing, if he can do a full range of motion then he can go as fast as he likes, only thing is when someone tries to go too fast they usually start shortening the ROM to crank out the reps.
@Gary1497 Right on brother, I will have to agree with you there. I think that is why they have the Military standards like they do, it is really the simplest, most consistent way to measure good form. You get into all this tempo, timing, and pausing, you enter a big gray area that is hard to measure. All the Military requires is that you do full range of motion without kipping. It is a very good benchmark to test pull-up strength. How you train in between tests is another story.
@tdo79 Agreed, as long as full range of motion is used then competitors can go any speed they like, reason i do my reps fairly slowly when training is when i start rushing them too much the range of motion tends to shorten and the exercise get's degraded a bit, think our disagreement was down to the difference between competition and training purposes, of course if you're going for a maximum amount you'll do them as rapid as possible and hopefully all full ROM.
once again your missing the point of what a rep is .. it is 2 parts.. so both have to be done perfectly. full range of motion throughout the positive. the neg would be controlled not free falling -full range of motion. the muscle will fatigue much much faster. hes only doing half of the rep.if he did it correctly he would get about 24-26. the military does not set the standard of what form is only how many can be done without swinging. i am still impressed though!
I'm not missing the point, and understand perfectly what a repetition is. You are talking about the tempo the repetition is performed. Whether you do a repetition fast, medium, or ultra slow, it is still a repetition. How slow is slow enough for you, how much control does one need to demonstrate, what is the official tempo, how is one supposed to measure this, and what if your correct form is too fast for the next guy are your reps suddenly invalid or improper?
ok a rep is not a rep.... simply free falling is not using muscle strength. the muscle is not even contracting. so the speed of the positive would be as fast as it can be contracted and the negative can drop as fast as it can while still be done totally controlled. as far as timing it cant be an official time cause each person has different limb lengths. just control it! period. this video is not perfect form. but the guy is still impressive!
Well, Steve, you do realize that that is YOUR opinion. However, YOUR opinion is not shared by me, the ENTIRE US Military, and half the people on here, so stop acting like it is 'official'. The reason we feel as though we do is because that is the ONLY way to consistently measure progress in pull-up strength in a competitive environment. environment. All the other factors you have mentioned are impossible to verify and measure. I don't see why you guys can't get this.
This is just wrong. The faster you do them the larger motor units you recruit resulting in more strength. Doing exercises slowly is not as good if you're going for strength and power. Only if you want to be in Cirque Du Soleil.
Regarding Kipping Pull-Ups. These are not "cheating pull-ups" Yes they are not acceptable for Marine Corps PFTs, but in terms of general fitness I believe they are better. It requires more full-body coordination and actively work your core and hip flexors. Also you are able to more of them. But only at about a 1.5:1 ratio. I find it funny to see those who claim they can do 50+ kipping yet can barely do 10 strict. Kipping is better for fitness because you can do more work in less time.
Scary to see all the misinformation regarding "correct" pull-ups. I am a Marine Officer and have done a tour at MCRD San Diego so I am very familiar with the requirements at Boot Camp. All these poolees saying you're legs have to be locked straight out are simply wrong. You can't swing or use any momentum, but you can bring your knees up to waist level if you want.
All those pull-ups would have qualified for ANY PFT in the Marine Corps including Boot Camp. So awesome job!
I know it hurts my brain to read their responses and see their logic. The funniest part is when they say doing something faster=easier. So I guess Michael Johnson's sprint workouts are SUPER EASY because his legs move really fast. So according to their logic he's basically doing nothing. LMAO.
Pretty impressive! I dont like to pick things apart but he doesnt control the negative part of the rep and free falls almost every rep. Perfect form would maen each and every part of the rep would be controlled 100 percent. The leg swing creating momentum is an entire other arguement.
Says who? As long as he is not using momentum, goes down all the way, and gets his chin over, he is doing them right. The faster you can go, the better.
all you assholes hatin on him because hes kipping don't know much about it.. kipping is an exercise on its own, it gets your core involved and strengthens your abdominals... and all you marine corps poolees who havent even been to boot acting like you know a thing or two about pull-ups, i guarantee you this guy can do 20 strict pull ups... why cant you just say good job and be done with it... 35 pulls ups is alot, kipping or not.
I like all the people who get off on flaming people for minor flaws in technique that occur after the 20th rep. There is no way to maintain perfect technique all the way to muscular failure. good work bro
You are right, it does nothing. Like he may as well just sit at home on the couch, his muscles are getting no benefit. Anyone can do 35 pull ups like that. What a waste of time. He may even be getting weaker.
nope, can't use your feet in official pull-up , first 20 look real good though..pull-ups are tough, the yoga masters can do 100's!, and even hold them for long periods of time..I can get 13 "official" ones, whew
tbh it depends entirely on how much u weigh im 17stone
i remeber when i was 10 bout his weight i could bang em out easy even ronny coleman would struggle doing 30- 40 in one go hes a power house this guys might aswell be doing this without any legs pointless display.
I know exactly what you mean as a marine poolee. I just took my ist in mid-july and there would be a marine/recruiter on the ground holding his arm horizontally up to your thighs so you HAVE TO lock your knees and pull 100% of your body weight.
If a marine d.i was counting, he would've been quiet the whole time. When you get down, he'll just unfold his arm and say "zero", write it down on his clipboard and just moved on
belmaralex, not saying ur weak but u might want 2 straighten ur legs
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shut the fuck up pussy ass emo wrist slittin slag say your shit from your cum spewing mouth behind your computer say that shit to a soldiers face and he'll rip your jaw from your faggot mouth
Not strict! i do my pull ups slowley and stict to prevent swinging like a frigging monkey lol....plus your chin has to be above the bar...hence chin up! nice beach though
in response to mad1966dog ..i wouldnt doubt him if anyone thinks that. being a little dick maybe. 35 is good for anyone but ive been searching all over youtube and cant find anybody doing a ridiculous amount of pullups. you see stuff with people doing bench and all. when i was in wrestling i was able to 68pullups only being at the bottom for 2seconds at most. it was teh most at my school but still... that was with a month of. shouldnt there people having videos of them doing like 200?
That is a heck of a fitness achievement there. Way to go! At first I could only do 10 but 6 weeks later I'm up to 16. I hope I can do as many as you did in a few months maybe.
i don't wanna sound like a math nerd but his body has a slight harmonic motion as he does his pull ups. If you notice he is swinging very little, but it still helps him get up. So, if you wanna get technical he did 1 pull-up (the first one, his body had no motion but up.) still very had to do what he did
yea, tennisis4pussys is right, but he isn't really swinging, notice the snake like motion he is doing when he pulls himself up, that is called cheating
yes they can, if you are able to do it like i can 10 pull ups would be very high. by keeping yourself strait you dramatically increase the difficulty of each pull up. try it, just keep "dead legs" and keep your stomach flexed
Those are not chin ups lol
MrWESMAN22 2 weeks ago
good except stop lifting your damn neck up to get it over the bar! that's cheating.
skaterboy0206 1 month ago
this is amazing work harder i know u can reach 42
999rahim 2 months ago
i can do 5!!!!!!!!1111 no one cn beat dat
Adninish 2 months ago
Better 10 correct and controled then this ...
MrRobertMiles 3 months ago
@MrRobertMiles I caught your mom sucking my my dogs COCK again. Tell that bitch to stop.
Goethewrote 3 weeks ago
impressive, please tell me how often and howl ong youve been training, a general outline of the volume of pullups etc u do would be nice per workout. Keep training i want to see you get to 40
artakisthebest 3 months ago
I always respect someone who moves his ass and kudo to you for this .
However I have to point out 3 things
1- you seem to "kip" a lot : you're supposed to train your arms and your back not your hips .
2- your chin seems to barely go over the bar . This is not supposed to be a muscle up but I think you should go a little higher and extend a little less your neck .
3- doing them slower without using momentum is better
also for your joints slightly bent your elbow in bottom position
georgetapadbol 3 months ago
you folks are fags. the dude is obviously legit. just because you can't even do 1 of these doesnt mean you should hate.
VCthaGOATdunker 3 months ago
hmm i cant make a steroid comment...
imma have to go with plastic leg excuse
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PLganjaPL1920 4 months ago
looks like it could brake anytime
hjalmarBuoi 4 months ago
at 0:50 u start moving your head like a pez dispencer
spicnspan11 4 months ago
Well done!
OfficialBarstarzz 5 months ago
OKAY. Where is this pull-up paradise and how do we gain access to it? Lol
KittyGetAway 5 months ago 2
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OKAY. Where is this pull-up paradise and how do we gain access to it?
KittyGetAway 5 months ago
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KittyGetAway 5 months ago
This was decent, but he chickened out.
KentuckyFriedWishing 6 months ago
i can do 35 without geting exausted or slow and im 14 but nice muscle tone u got there.
knjmaba 8 months ago
@knjmaba How many chin ups can you do?
psfanboy999 7 months ago
@knjmaba if ur so tough , why dont you make a video about it ?
NiPLucky 5 months ago
@knjmaba good job fag no one cares
tabkitchen1983 4 months ago
Well done bro. A lot of pull up videos on youtube are looped after a few and just make people look like morons, its so obvious.
Kumrockme 8 months ago
He has maybe the 35.
But if ur doing 35 fast, its like 10-20 slowe...
MrBoes1 9 months ago
@MrBoes1 The video didn't say slow, did it asshat? Next time, get your head outta your ass. Mmmmmmmk.
Goethewrote 3 weeks ago
wow that was pretty good!
yeah the chin could have been higher but otherwise the form was great
kudos
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@belmaralex This is why the world hates us
yoda101 11 months ago
what other benefits can the pullup excercise do?
MrFacebuster 11 months ago
LMAO. whats with the random pull up bar on the beach?
finalfanta25 1 year ago 12
@HillsideFights Man Shut Up, Can U Even Do 2 Pull Ups
jiggzda1 1 year ago
straighten ur legs, its harder and looks better
bboybeelzmon 1 year ago
go all the way down
what are you looking for
dont kick up
whiteboy4christ 1 year ago
go all the way down
whiteboy4christ 1 year ago
New Challenge: Clapping Pull Ups
bambarby 1 year ago 2
for being at 202lbs and 6'4", 13 years of age and drug-free, I can max out at about 73 perfect dead-hang no kipping pull ups in a row no stop!
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut
Yeah, I can do about 17 million pull ups and I'm only 4 years old, no stop!
anthcybo 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut Do you post this on every pullup video you watch? Post a video i want to see if your telling the truth.
Innercow 1 year ago
@Innercow I am telling the truth and will post all of my feat videos soon!
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut I don´t want to feed the troll, but, no you can´t.
itsmefalconOo 1 year ago
im 13 202lbs and i can do 73 perfect pull ups in a row from dead hang, no kipping, head 100% over the bar and absolute PERFECT form. :)
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut 3 months+ of comments and saying your videos will be up soon , and you still don't have any up , hardly anyones believing you so whats the point with all these comments.
ARGUMENTS4FUN 1 year ago
@ARGUMENTS4FUN he wanna get killed by some fitness freak
hozzy2 1 year ago
@hozzy2 LOL I am a fitness expert myself, any ways. ;)
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut thats nothin i can do about 150 pull up perfect form and i just turned 16 when i was your age though i blew past 100 easy, nice work pussy
manonfirex42 1 year ago
@manonfirex42 We all can't be as unique and amazing, special and God-given as you are! :)
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut Really? Thats great. I'm 3 year old, 320 lbs and I can do 89283582587023050 pull ups in a row.
Stevofxx 1 year ago
@Stevofxx I heard you suck a mean cock, too!
Goethewrote 3 weeks ago
@Goethewrote Funny but untrue. I do know for a fact that you like to get sandwiched.
Stevofxx 3 weeks ago
get that chin over
YamUmMak 1 year ago
LOL hahahaha, some haters arejust insaneely ridiculously hating haters haha, "try again when you can do at least one"???? wahhhh
??? haha dude did 35 how can one truly say that without being seriously jealous. yes i give the man props, but thats all, i cant give him more,
smackdaddy542 1 year ago
he does go all the way down, but he stretches his chin up to get it over, which is cheating, id say this is more like 25 actuall pull ups
gorgotno 1 year ago
Yeah he may have rocked a little bit, but he still did 35 which is amazing. With 100% perfect form he could probably still do 30
Nerevar1990 1 year ago
Who care about full range of motion when you are working out. Besides the fact that full range of motion isn't always good for the joints, when training, the body doesn't know the difference nor does it care if you aren't locking out the joints. Anyways all the purists out there suck it, each persons responds differently to exercise.
xxheidi 1 year ago
All the way up, all the way down. Try again when you can do at least one good one!
2ndhandlion 1 year ago
@2ndhandlion I don't know man, he did do them all the way up and down.
bigarch10 1 year ago
@bigarch10 i totally agree!
KidCrewClan 1 year ago
@bigarch10 LOL no he didn't...all the way down to straight arms, pause...then all the way up so the chin is over the bar, without raising it to cheat!
2ndhandlion 1 year ago
@2ndhandlion He did raise his chin but ergonomically its recommended that you keep a slight bend so that you do not use your joints to support your weight.
madmardygan 1 year ago
i love that hang... bradly beach is amazing good memories
jtart23 1 year ago
are u kidding me u cant even do 20 corect
AmericansSexualPreds 1 year ago
@AmericansSexualPreds You can't spell, fuckwit. Next time you say something retarded, do it with proper grammar and spelling.
Goethewrote 3 weeks ago
fuck skinny faggot lift your fat ASSHOLE al the way up, u lift your head like a faggot looking to suck a dick
AmericansSexualPreds 1 year ago
you dont do them fully)) there is absolutely no point to lift your chin up while doing them! if you cant do 30 then just try to do 20 but nice and corect once))
vladimirrrkasi666 1 year ago
niceee.. u are strong.. you must have really good cardio as well.. u dont appear to be a power lifter or anything but your not only striong for your size as shown but you must have great breathing to be able to do that many pull ups.. great job
partyongarth420 1 year ago
is that a lonely random pull up bar in the middle of nowhere??
bubblezed 1 year ago 110
@bubblezed It's a out-door gym on a beach.
IamPUREEEE 1 year ago
ok well this is my last post lol.. since no one agrees with me ! in a competition where you can do just the positive part of the rep .. without swinging your body (kipping).. this is awesome! so if you set those rules yes this is awesome! once again, this guy is very impressive, keep up the good work i know he will be up to 40.
steveleamont 1 year ago
@tdo79. Typical response? If you mean stating physiological facts then I guess you are correct.
spyu 1 year ago
Now that I have ranted at all the haters. These are pretty legit imo, good work. I'd like any of the keyboard warrior critics post a video that can even touch this.
tdo79 1 year ago
Those are not pullups ! just hurtling up and down with momentum to achieve a lot of reps is pointless, you're only kidding yourself on, slowly up, pause at the top and back down to a full arm extension without all these half and quarter reps, only full reps count, full body motion through the complete range of motion, if you want to learn it properly look up Steve Maxwell, he's the real deal.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
Yes they are!! If you want to talk like you are the man, post your own video showing us how it is done. Military rules brother, THEY are the real deal!!
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 sorry bro.. there are two parts to a rep an explosive positive and a controlled negative... if you are not controling a negative it is free falling and in fact is giving you a rest. so he gets .05 seconds rest each rep which equals 15 seconds. so no way is it good form no way. still impressive but not true form.
steveleamont 1 year ago
@steveleamont
Don't be sorry. True form eh? By whose standards, and how are you supposed to measure that? As many have already pointed out, all that matters is that you use full range of motion, and the you are not using your body to generate inertia (kipping). This is the standard in all branches of the US Military. The longer your muscles are under stress, the more they will get fatigued. The idea is to do as many as you can, hence, go as fast as you can.
tdo79 1 year ago
Improper form, going fast makes them easier hence less impressive, muscles under tension for less time equals less strength, chin not OVER the bar on ANY of the reps, not pausing at the bottom AND top of the exercise, craning the chin upwards to push it higher to make it look as though he's pulling higher than he is, i don't do pullups i do chins but i do them in 100% proper form, at the end of the day stop kidding yourself on and being obsessed with reps
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
By that logic, if I can make a pull up harder than what you are doing, your form is invalidated. In fact, as long as we are playing God of pull-up form, I demand that to be official each pull-up be no less than 10 seconds on the way up, pause for 5 seconds at the top, 10 seconds on the way down, pause for 5 seconds at the bottom. Anything faster than this will be easier right, and therefore less impressive, and not proper form? Reps are the only way to gauge progress on a pull-up.
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 Rep count means nothing when none of those reps count, quality over quantity every time, if you can't do the exercise in proper form don't do the exercise, simple, you're one of those people who think that it's ok doing 100 pushups but none of them are done properly, what's the point? proves nothing apart from you know how to cheat on the exercise.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
Gary, are you not listening to me? When have I EVER said it is okay to use improper form? The question of what is proper form is what we are talking about. If you are using proper form, rep count is the ONLY way to gauge progress, hence the obsession. Max pull-up tests are administered in every branch of the Military to gauge progress on pull up strength. The rules they give are that you must use full range of motion, and not use inertia to help you (kipping); nothing about tempo.
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 We'll have to agree to disagree, to me using momentum to hurtle up and down makes the exercise easier and thus invalidates the rep as does not having your adams apple level with or higher than the bar, pullups with the chin craned up high to try to validate the rep don't cut it, as to someone else's comment that you can't maintain proper form when you've done 20 or so reps, well yeah that's right so that's when you'd stop.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
Right on. Maybe you should update wikipedia, and notify all branches of the US Military, because they are all confused. How about I try another approach....How many perfect pull-ups can you do?
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 If that's the US military standard then it's poor, you have to do the exercise properly or it's no good and you might as well not bother, i do chins not pull ups and i don't think about "how many can i do today" as they form part of an exercise program.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
Yeah Gary, they do absolutely NOTHING for you, you fucking idiot. The only reason you are bitching is because you are a weak piece of shit and can't do half the pull-up this guy can. If you want to prove how superior your form is, post a video of you doing pull-ups as fast as you can, full range of motion, and no kipping, and see if you can beat him. We'll see whose training technique has proven results and whose hasn't.
tdo79 1 year ago
Loses the argument big time and then has to resort to foul language, maybe i've hit a nerve there about the US military, maybe if they listened to someone like Steve Maxwell who actually knows what he's talking about they might perform better than they do. As i said before don't try to reinterpret my words, i never claimed the pullups this guy did do nothing, they obviously do something but could be better, i don't do pullups i do chins, by the way clean your mouth out
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
As far as cleaning my mouth...fuck off. Anyway, since when did I lose the argument? You never made that claim huh? Your exact quote 'it's no good and you might as well not bother', how am I supposed to misinterpret that? It is not just the US, the SAS's pft is the same way; you need some way to measure performance, and this is the obvious solution. Full range of motion, no kipping. However, since you and your fuck buddy Steve no best, what SHOULD the requirements be for these tests?
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 ok each pullup done from a dead hang position, pull up to adams apple level or above the bar hold the position for a second then slowly back down controlling the rep all the way to the dead hang straight arm position, simple eh ? anyway the thing is it's this video we're commenting on and the technique is poor
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497 Simple, maybe, but not clearly defined. To clarify, please further explain the following: Hold at adams apple for a full 1 second? What if it is .95 seconds, does that not count then? How do we determine the timing, do we start a stop watch once the adams apple clears? Define what 'controlling the rep' means on the way back down. My definition of control may be different that yours.
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 Lol, you know what i mean, control the WHOLE rep, wouldn't matter if you pause for .95 or a full second, that's splitting hairs, the guy in the video struggles to get his chin up to and over the bar and only does so by craning and pushing his neck up as though he's squawking like a seagull, chin has to be over the bar not below or level with it, over it and without all the neck contortions.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497 Well, what is the cut-off time then? .75 seconds, .5? This notion of controlling the whole rep is vague also, so you will have to give me something more specific. Really, you are talking about how long it takes from going from the up position, to the bottom. So how long does it need to be in order to be official. You may think I am splitting hairs, but in order to judge form in a competitive matter, I need to know the 'correct' form is and be able to communicate that to the competitors
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 No specific cut off time, from a dead hang position pullup to the adams apple pause at the top and then lower under control until you are in a dead hang position again then start the next rep, nothing complicated just simple dead hang pullups.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
How long do you need to pause at the top? What defines control and how do you measure it? Control is an ambiguous term, so you need to get more specific so we have something to go by.
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 See any of Steve Maxwell's training dvd's and you can see it there and put a stopwatch on it, if necessary
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
So the answer is that you have no specifics to replace my specifics? Until you can come up with a better system, that is measurable, I will stick to what works. Full range of motion, no kipping. As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, that is probably why they have it set up like that in the first place. Hmm.
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 But that's the whole point, the guy in the video is not using full range, he's barely getting his chin up to the bar and only then by doing the seagull thing, so he's not using full range motion.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497
Wow, I think we are actually making progress here. :) Now if we are talking about his range of motion, you may have a point. He may have not locked fully at the bottom, and cleared his chin at the top, (although it is hard to tell from where the camera is located). It is pretty close, but I would not argue if you ding him there. However, if you are talking about how fast he is going, I have to disagree with you, as there is no way to judge tempo and pauses.
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 well at the end of the day for me range of motion is the thing, if he can do a full range of motion then he can go as fast as he likes, only thing is when someone tries to go too fast they usually start shortening the ROM to crank out the reps.
Gary1497 1 year ago
@Gary1497 Right on brother, I will have to agree with you there. I think that is why they have the Military standards like they do, it is really the simplest, most consistent way to measure good form. You get into all this tempo, timing, and pausing, you enter a big gray area that is hard to measure. All the Military requires is that you do full range of motion without kipping. It is a very good benchmark to test pull-up strength. How you train in between tests is another story.
tdo79 1 year ago
@tdo79 Agreed, as long as full range of motion is used then competitors can go any speed they like, reason i do my reps fairly slowly when training is when i start rushing them too much the range of motion tends to shorten and the exercise get's degraded a bit, think our disagreement was down to the difference between competition and training purposes, of course if you're going for a maximum amount you'll do them as rapid as possible and hopefully all full ROM.
Gary1497 1 year ago
once again your missing the point of what a rep is .. it is 2 parts.. so both have to be done perfectly. full range of motion throughout the positive. the neg would be controlled not free falling -full range of motion. the muscle will fatigue much much faster. hes only doing half of the rep.if he did it correctly he would get about 24-26. the military does not set the standard of what form is only how many can be done without swinging. i am still impressed though!
steveleamont 1 year ago
@steveleamont
I'm not missing the point, and understand perfectly what a repetition is. You are talking about the tempo the repetition is performed. Whether you do a repetition fast, medium, or ultra slow, it is still a repetition. How slow is slow enough for you, how much control does one need to demonstrate, what is the official tempo, how is one supposed to measure this, and what if your correct form is too fast for the next guy are your reps suddenly invalid or improper?
tdo79 1 year ago
ok a rep is not a rep.... simply free falling is not using muscle strength. the muscle is not even contracting. so the speed of the positive would be as fast as it can be contracted and the negative can drop as fast as it can while still be done totally controlled. as far as timing it cant be an official time cause each person has different limb lengths. just control it! period. this video is not perfect form. but the guy is still impressive!
steveleamont 1 year ago
@steveleamont
Well, Steve, you do realize that that is YOUR opinion. However, YOUR opinion is not shared by me, the ENTIRE US Military, and half the people on here, so stop acting like it is 'official'. The reason we feel as though we do is because that is the ONLY way to consistently measure progress in pull-up strength in a competitive environment. environment. All the other factors you have mentioned are impossible to verify and measure. I don't see why you guys can't get this.
tdo79 1 year ago
This is just wrong. The faster you do them the larger motor units you recruit resulting in more strength. Doing exercises slowly is not as good if you're going for strength and power. Only if you want to be in Cirque Du Soleil.
spyu 1 year ago
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Gary1497 1 year ago
Ok that was insane. Cuz didn't really slow down that much
mynameisjonas45 2 years ago
Regarding Kipping Pull-Ups. These are not "cheating pull-ups" Yes they are not acceptable for Marine Corps PFTs, but in terms of general fitness I believe they are better. It requires more full-body coordination and actively work your core and hip flexors. Also you are able to more of them. But only at about a 1.5:1 ratio. I find it funny to see those who claim they can do 50+ kipping yet can barely do 10 strict. Kipping is better for fitness because you can do more work in less time.
spyu 2 years ago
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tdo79 1 year ago
Scary to see all the misinformation regarding "correct" pull-ups. I am a Marine Officer and have done a tour at MCRD San Diego so I am very familiar with the requirements at Boot Camp. All these poolees saying you're legs have to be locked straight out are simply wrong. You can't swing or use any momentum, but you can bring your knees up to waist level if you want.
All those pull-ups would have qualified for ANY PFT in the Marine Corps including Boot Camp. So awesome job!
spyu 2 years ago
@spyu
I agree, the guys are morons
tdo79 1 year ago
I know it hurts my brain to read their responses and see their logic. The funniest part is when they say doing something faster=easier. So I guess Michael Johnson's sprint workouts are SUPER EASY because his legs move really fast. So according to their logic he's basically doing nothing. LMAO.
spyu 1 year ago
@spyu
I think it is just their attempt to make themselves feel good about being in such crappy shape.
tdo79 1 year ago
Wow Belmaralex.....Very nice work!! Go for 40!!!
anthonyrufo1 2 years ago 16
Pretty impressive! I dont like to pick things apart but he doesnt control the negative part of the rep and free falls almost every rep. Perfect form would maen each and every part of the rep would be controlled 100 percent. The leg swing creating momentum is an entire other arguement.
steveleamont 2 years ago
@steveleamont
Says who? As long as he is not using momentum, goes down all the way, and gets his chin over, he is doing them right. The faster you can go, the better.
tdo79 1 year ago
all you assholes hatin on him because hes kipping don't know much about it.. kipping is an exercise on its own, it gets your core involved and strengthens your abdominals... and all you marine corps poolees who havent even been to boot acting like you know a thing or two about pull-ups, i guarantee you this guy can do 20 strict pull ups... why cant you just say good job and be done with it... 35 pulls ups is alot, kipping or not.
slimthugga34 2 years ago
I like all the people who get off on flaming people for minor flaws in technique that occur after the 20th rep. There is no way to maintain perfect technique all the way to muscular failure. good work bro
ddddar 2 years ago
@ddddar
Agreed, they are most likely fat-asses. Post a response video suckerss.
tdo79 1 year ago
that was not a 35 pull ups, sorry
sharpey3000 2 years ago
@sharpey3000
I'd give it to ya brother.
tdo79 1 year ago
The bar should touch the sternum to get a full contraction of the lats.
Thats a half chin at best, which is a completely worthless exercise.
TheLusseyran 2 years ago
@TheLusseyran
You are right, it does nothing. Like he may as well just sit at home on the couch, his muscles are getting no benefit. Anyone can do 35 pull ups like that. What a waste of time. He may even be getting weaker.
tdo79 1 year ago
good work!
zakaveli 2 years ago
Beautiful place-lucky beggar
azed81 2 years ago 2
Your lucky to have a pull up bar like that on the beach...sweet
LoneStarPatriot 2 years ago 3
nope, can't use your feet in official pull-up , first 20 look real good though..pull-ups are tough, the yoga masters can do 100's!, and even hold them for long periods of time..I can get 13 "official" ones, whew
onefoot7 2 years ago
i like to see a skinny armed, pot bellied "yoga master" do "100's" of pull ups. when you find one be sure to post a vid.
justinlowthorp 2 years ago
i like to see a skinny armed, pot bellied "yoga master" do "100's" of pull ups. when you find one be sure to post a vid.
justinlowthorp 2 years ago
@onefoot7
you are dumb
tdo79 1 year ago
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Lol, when I was 13 I could do this without those small pauses just hanging. >:3
Unfortunately, I'm not able to to do that anymore so I'm gonna have to start working out again. ._.
MetroidTixer 2 years ago
Well done!! Keep on keeping on!
babbis13 2 years ago 3
good job man! keep it up.!
quikieemart 2 years ago 3
good!
Nyo92 2 years ago 3
YES WELL DONE!!!
The last five reps wow...u could even stop get some air. You are one hellava FIT guy! Five stars.
ProfessorLex 2 years ago 3
well done mate!
marulandamario 2 years ago 3
nice , i've seen someone else do this at the park. not sure if its the correct way but it looks like it works and you can do alot..
a2nV1n 2 years ago
looks like he's raping the air lol....do them better dude..
rafacanta 2 years ago
tbh it depends entirely on how much u weigh im 17stone
i remeber when i was 10 bout his weight i could bang em out easy even ronny coleman would struggle doing 30- 40 in one go hes a power house this guys might aswell be doing this without any legs pointless display.
TheFirstAngloSaxon 2 years ago
this is soo fucken random
mmabjj4evz 2 years ago
nice, those are actually pull ups champ
Jordy277 2 years ago
not one of those would be counted in the marine corps, you cant swing, use your legs for momentum and the chin must be above the bar not touching it
facefilms87 2 years ago
I know exactly what you mean as a marine poolee. I just took my ist in mid-july and there would be a marine/recruiter on the ground holding his arm horizontally up to your thighs so you HAVE TO lock your knees and pull 100% of your body weight.
If a marine d.i was counting, he would've been quiet the whole time. When you get down, he'll just unfold his arm and say "zero", write it down on his clipboard and just moved on
belmaralex, not saying ur weak but u might want 2 straighten ur legs
icedude11214 2 years ago
exactly so, this guys got some good strength for doing what he did but hes only getting half the benefit because his technique is weak.
facefilms87 2 years ago
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Who the fuck cares? Does it seem like he would like to become a marine? Gay ass faggot army boy? Nopes...
druevin 2 years ago
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shut the fuck up pussy ass emo wrist slittin slag say your shit from your cum spewing mouth behind your computer say that shit to a soldiers face and he'll rip your jaw from your faggot mouth
facefilms87 2 years ago
Wow, so you are actually saying that the marines aint nothin but muscle, huh? A marine would do shit.
druevin 2 years ago
you didn`t do even one correct pull up!
i believe you can do about 20-15 normal pullups.
algir1987 2 years ago
@algir1987
Incorrect, try again.
tdo79 1 year ago
35 is nice number mate :-) But still, try to get your chin over the bar. I am sure you will reach 35 regular pull ups soon. Nice body anyway...
NorbiCZ 2 years ago
35 my ass it was 28 then you stopped
harrystone632 2 years ago
@harrystone632
And then he kept going.
tdo79 1 year ago
Not strict! i do my pull ups slowley and stict to prevent swinging like a frigging monkey lol....plus your chin has to be above the bar...hence chin up! nice beach though
ovavoo 2 years ago
fuck a kipping pullup
EMDIESEL 2 years ago
these are not pull-ups...cheating.he must bring the chin over the bar...
climber974 2 years ago
@climber974
May I point out that the camera is mounted on the ground
tdo79 1 year ago
Cool moves, belmaralex.
Check out Summer Games
Push Ups Chamption contest.
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Bodyweightculture 2 years ago
in response to mad1966dog ..i wouldnt doubt him if anyone thinks that. being a little dick maybe. 35 is good for anyone but ive been searching all over youtube and cant find anybody doing a ridiculous amount of pullups. you see stuff with people doing bench and all. when i was in wrestling i was able to 68pullups only being at the bottom for 2seconds at most. it was teh most at my school but still... that was with a month of. shouldnt there people having videos of them doing like 200?
saboxsandoval 2 years ago
Kipping pull ups are weak. You got good form.Where is this pull up bar in the middle of the beach?
receo11 2 years ago
Beautiful location
fistusfanius 2 years ago
That is a heck of a fitness achievement there. Way to go! At first I could only do 10 but 6 weeks later I'm up to 16. I hope I can do as many as you did in a few months maybe.
StephenAnthonyMusic 2 years ago
those are pullups chin ups are when the palms are facing you
PKgangzta 2 years ago 3
i can do 50 no fucking problem
mad1966dog 2 years ago
@mad1966dog
Prove it.
tdo79 1 year ago
Not far enough up. If you were in real training, you would still be count number 1.
rhombus1000 3 years ago
what "real training" ?
specter82290 3 years ago
A professional trainer would not have counted a single one of those as a real chin-up.
rhombus1000 3 years ago
why not ? he locks out fully and his chins over the bar .........
specter82290 3 years ago
i don't wanna sound like a math nerd but his body has a slight harmonic motion as he does his pull ups. If you notice he is swinging very little, but it still helps him get up. So, if you wanna get technical he did 1 pull-up (the first one, his body had no motion but up.) still very had to do what he did
tennisIS4pussys 2 years ago
@tennisIS4pussys
you are an idiot
tdo79 1 year ago
yea, tennisis4pussys is right, but he isn't really swinging, notice the snake like motion he is doing when he pulls himself up, that is called cheating
imsocool611 2 years ago
noone can be perfectly straight when doing all of their pull-ups...his were fine except for like the last 10 when his knees started to swing
0neMindAnyWeapon1775 2 years ago
yes they can, if you are able to do it like i can 10 pull ups would be very high. by keeping yourself strait you dramatically increase the difficulty of each pull up. try it, just keep "dead legs" and keep your stomach flexed
imsocool611 2 years ago