I agree. The system is far too corrupt and wrong at times to be able to condemn someone to death. Mistakes could be made. I know it sucks when someone really truly deserves it and we have to pay their living expenses via taxes.
I belief that convicted criminals should all be forced to work normal shifts in order to pay their own living expenses. That way, if you are innocent, your doing what you would normally be doing anways and if you are guilty, then we dont pay for you via taxes.
holyfuck thats a good reason, a politician gave a good reason... holy fuck what else is he telling the truth about?... oh wait... everything, he's telling the truth about everything.
I used to be in complete favor of the death penalty. Now, I'm a believer in forgiveness and mercy. Certain circumstances I feel it's necessary though.
Watching videos of the debates, after interviews, interviews from all the media outlets, etc, is not propaganda. Believing rhetoric that can't be backed up is propaganda. For a gold analogy: Let's say 20 yrs ago, 1 paper dollar bought 1 flake of gold, today it takes 5 paper dollars to buy the same flake. Printing out 5 more dollars didn't make 5 more units of gold appear, it caused the value of the dollar to go down and the one flake to cost more to get.
Ron Paul gets the independent's vote, which is what wins the general election. A tremendous amount of those independents who put obama in the white house will not vote for him again. Hardcore Repubs will vote for whoever the nominee is, hardcore dems will vote obama no matter what. the independents vote on the individual. I think it comes down to Paul or Obama
Good luck with that theory that people actually want ron paul. And independent people like myself do not vote for republicans, even if their name is Ron Paul.
ron paul supporters don't preach anything, they just repeat the same thing they have brainwashed about. And they even don't understand American history and how the constitution is hypocritical.
@taledarkside you call yourself an independent but you "do not vote for republicans". You're not an independent then. Independents vote on individuals based on their individual views, not a party line. A lot of us understand American history just fine. Actual history, not just the edited version on the tv. Listen to Ron Paul's vids on economics and how he's been predicting the current decline for years, and why. Good history lessons for you there.
@taledarkside you're kidding right? everyone predicted the economy crash? Maybe the night before, but years and years earlier? No. Look up Keynesian economics and click on vids from the 90's when the economic "experts" were laughing at Paul and like minded people who spelled out what was coming. Yes, republican is a party line, i understand what i said, apparently you do not. Independents vote regardless of party, just on individual merit.
When gas prices increase 100%, interest rates change dramastical in the 90s, everyone saw the economy going into a hole. Ron Paul is no savior retard.
Only people that vote for parties have a set belief of what that party represents. I know that concept is hard for you to grasp.
@taledarkside Didn't say he was a savior, I said he was one of the few who predicted exactly how it was going to happen. My point is he understands the best how it works. In hindsight, everyone says they should have seen it coming, but that's not the case, especially with housing. The other folks running now didn't. Paul was trying to change things before it collapsed. Its a credability on who can actually change things, instead of just throwing out the same old rhetoric.
Ron Paul is a little man that can't do anything. Many many people predected the economy failing. So you still are making ron paul out as a savior beause you claim he predicted something when it was common knowledge. If you educated yourself, you would have seen the economy collapsing too.
@taledarkside With the gas prices, Paul spoke out about how it was due to inflation and fiat money, hence his mission to audit the fed. Wants to phase out the fed (who arbitrarily control the interest rates). He wants to go back to the gold standard, which if we still had, the gas prices would stay stable. Sounds like you're not even trying to understand what he's been saying. Research him before ranting about some cult crap.
@taledarkside This is why his supporters are passionate. The dullards just go on what the tv says and don't do their own homework. When they repeat the edited garbage from the regular media, Paul's fans counter them with verifiable facts easily looked up, but people are too lazy to research. Its frustrating that folks like you simply don't understand what he says and what he's been saying for decades now.
You mean just like the ron paul cult that just repeat the propaganda from ron pauls campaigning website.
its funny when you coudn't back anything up with fact on how gas would be cheaper with the gold standard, oh wait, you are in a ron paul cult, and there is no answer on his website.
@taledarkside I'm thinking you don't quite understand economics and what inflation actually means. Here's your facts: What we pay for gas is higher because our paper dollar has a much lower purchasing power today than it used to. Base it on gold or silver, it is the same or even lower. Please look this up, the info is everywhere. I don't just repeat whats on his campaign sites, I watch multiple, entire interviews he's had over many years and try to understand what he says.
So how will the gold standard make gas prices get cheaper? strange that you can't answer a simple economic question.
And if you need to have people watch propaganda videos because you have no clue what you are talking about, that explains a lot of the intelligence of the ron paul cult.
@taledarkside All these video's I'm pointing you to that you refuse to watch are here on you tube, not Ron Paul's site. Listen to them and fact check. Farthest thing from simple propaganda. All candidates have some propaganda, the failure to fact check from independent sources is simple ignorance. You disagree with someone's view and call them a cultist or something. That's schoolyard childishness usually reserved for those that have no argument left
@taledarkside From my analogy, use the flake of gold that now costs 5 dollars to buy the gas, now its one flake for a gallon instead of 5 dollars. Quit printing the dollars based on nothing, base them on the gold, and then you can't just print out arbitrarily, which drives the prices up. It's more complicated than this, yes, and s&d is also a factor, but basing the dollar on actual gold would stabilize it more.
@taledarkside As i stated, s&d is also a factor, but printing money based on nothing makes it worth less and drives debt up. Check history, there's been times in the US when demand dropped, but prices still went up. Its all about the purchasing power of the paper dollar
I don't need to check history, since I was alive before today. Something ron paul cultists always say.
And there is more to it besides supply and demand with purchasing crude oil. You should research that instead of just blaiming everything on the feds.
@taledarkside "I don't need to check history" This tells me you'd rather just argue then look up facts. I've tried to point you to independent sources and other vids that are not propaganda and all you got is "cult this, propaganda that" Lets get back to this death penalty video. Do you still think Ron Paul doesn't like the death penalty because dna evidence is flawed? Or did you concede my point after I posted the link to another video where he explained his point more clearly?
@taledarkside Don't misconstrue what the fed means. It's not just the reserve (private entity of course) but it's also the federal government that makes our problems with oil. The EPA keeps us from becoming energy Independent therefore we keep depending on the corrupt OPEC nations for oil. You are right the fed is only part of the the problem but the other fed is the other part of it.
Hippies are keeping us from becoming energy independent. We will be forced to have electric cars probably in 15years, so no big worries about oil dependency besides heavy machinery.
@taledarkside Search this video and listen to Peter Schiff vs multiple economic "experts" on the housing bubble. Skip to about 3 minutes for Schiff. I don't understand how you're denying this stuff. Keynesian Economics vs. Austrian Economics
I think that I would have preferred to hear him say that he is against it because there IS a better way to 'punish' people such as choosing compassion and educating them. If someone does something wrong WHATEVER it is what the helll does that say for us or them who decide to kill that person in response to their behaviour. Doesn't that make us worse? It doesn't make sense to me. I am going to show you that you did wrong by doing something worse! what? it's crazy!
I personally cannot support a system where the innocent are put to death, but where the elite sends thousands of Americans to their deaths under false pretenses (MURDER) and go free. Only when we reform the death penalty will our brave men and women see justice!
I love Ron Paul b/c he gives you real answers. not a bunch of "uhhhhh's and "well this is politics" answers like bush or obama. the man has no fear, he speaks the truth despite what the government wnats him to do. this is what we need is someone powerful enough to over throw the governments ill ways, and restore America to being the greatest and most free country in the world, and without ron paul. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. SO VOTE RON PAUL. GIVE HIM A CHANCE.
@adayinforever i hope he will not get killed because of that :(
i wish usa the best and the only hope is Ron Paul i believe. i have seen what them evil powerful men can do.. media and all that.. they lie to their peopel!! Ron Paul is so real.. and im not even from the USA, but I can see this.. So if Ron Paul doesnt get choosen idk what to believe..
i wish you all the best usa and the people in it.. as ron paul does.. best best wishes from sweden!! (sorry for my bad english).
@LiberalBohemian Because the only thing the opposition has to use against Ron Paul are those stupid newsletters, which allege that Ron Paul is a racist, primarily towards black people, and black people rarely vote republican anyway, so black endorsements are very important for Ron Paul. What an aggressive thing to say on your part.
@givemearandomnamenow I went over your head. I was talking about Ron Paul's argument for why he wasn't a racist. And btw labels are misleading, sir. "Liberal" was the convenient word because it's shorter, but "libertarian" better characterizes my views.
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@taledarkside That's a good point. However, my point was; is it right for a supposedly civillized society (or let's say civillized government) to strike back with the same coin?
you cant have it both ways. You can't have a civilized society, when individuals are killing people. So having a death penalty isn't being hypocritical.
@greennin 1) You put that entirely out of context. He is not against gays or anything like that. He's just saying that it's such a minor issue that the federal government should not have to deal with. Besides, it's about gay marriage - allowing the states to be able to "ban" homosexual behaviour would be discrimination at a very high level.
2) Same thing here. He said he wants to hand over the responsibility to the states.
3) I don't know much about this part, so I'm not going to argue
@frobank hi, i didn't mean to formulate it in a negative way. i'm just trying to bring people the facts. i'll just talk about the first point: i know he's not against gays himself, but i did read that he doesn't care if the states make laws forbidding "sodomy". and it probably doesn't breach the constitution so no, it's not a very high level of discrimination in the USA (in europe it would be of course)
@TheLPMason sodomy does not have to include oral sex. the states sodomy laws have to specify that more exactly. but yeah, if you vote for ron paul, blow jobs may become illegal in your state. true story ;)
If a system existed that could, without any error whatsoever, say if someone is guilty or not, I would be in favor of the death penalty. Why waste money on an evil person that will never get out of prison?
However, with this said, since there is no full-proof system, I cannot support the death penalty. If even one innocent person is executed, it's a travesty beyond words. Can you imagine this, being on death row knowing you did nothing wrong? The sheer horror of this is beyond words.
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He specifically said federal, not state. A lot of Ron Paul's views are different at the state level. He opposes abortion, but believes it should be decided at the state level; it's therefore likely he would still support a death penalty if the state chose it. I like Ron Paul not because I agree with him on everything, but because he seems to be aware of where his views should end and law begins.
ron paul doesn't flip flop when it's politically advantageous, he flip flops when he gets ALL the information and makes the right and morally conscious decision.
@taledarkside There's a difference between changing your mind/opinions based on gaining a better, and more correct, understanding on a topic versus changing it depending on the crowd you're in front of. But, that fact obviously escaped you when you made that ignorant comment.
Yup, ron paul changing his opinion to gain votes. Just like he was parading a US soldier on stage when he knew it was wrong too do. Another corrupt poltician trying to win an election.
@taledarkside how is it wrong to let a supporter speak at his podium after the same supporter was cut off earlier after trying to speak? You don't like freedom of speech? He explains clearly why he changed his opinion on the death penalty. To counter your "to gain votes" argument, he'll probably lose some republican votes for being against the death penalty. Remember Gingrich got a standing O when he says "lets go in and kill their scientists...."
LOL freedom of speech, that doesn't exist with ron paul supporters.
Gingrich is an idiot. dumb career politician like ron paul. Ron Paul barely gets any republican votes when he is a libertarian. He doesn't have the balls like the other candidates to be in a real party.
@taledarkside Ron Paul and supporters preach again and again and again about constitutional rights including freedom of religion, speech, etc. etc etc. over and over and over again. I don't get where you're drawing your conclusions from. You can disagree with his platform but you can't simply ignore the core values he promotes in just about every video on here. And in many of his speeches on the congressional floor. He's extremely consistent on these points. Where's the confusion?
Im 16 years old and am really into politics, world and social issues, etc and im just amazed how 90% of the stuff that came out of Herman Cain's mouth didnt make sense as well as Romeny, and Gingrich. But everything Ron Paul says is flawless, and makes perfect sense! RON PAUL 2012
people don't have to die for punishment .. take does prisoners in coma and use there body heat and electrical synapses for power production.. 1000 people producing enough heat and electrical synap to run a great deal of things we need energy for.
they have there punishment we have the benifit for them actual returning something back to the people they hurt and or did wrong.
and its cheaper only have to feed them and store them in smal container with a fluid. think matrix movie;)
i said that i dont trust this govement and i say ron paul is a aman for the job...
and believe obama and his words ,,,in campain speeches ofhim oand what is truth about all his promises.. i cant name 1 thing . ..so on a healty base critical thinking is not that bad...why voting if you never mention that..becaus eit is ahard fact and evedidence ..that seams that you choose a mean with knowing what he steand for and that he shows also thainreality,,..and you call me a retard ..??lol bye
sorry bro i deleted the message .you are completely right ...
and ,i say such retarded stuff btw only becaue idont trust this doverment anymore and ron paul is in my eyes the last man that realy whant to do about it....i see only actors
I wonder why the US still executes the death penalty while every other Western country doesn't any more. There are studies from American universities which show that many people who have been executed were probably not guilty. Who can give them their lives back? If they had only been imprisoned you could free them and pay a recompensation. I don't see a single advantage. It is very expensive, does not have a deterrent effect and is likely to be unjustified in many cases.
@taledarkside It would be this cheap if we go back to mob justice. Not many here are arguing against the death penalty morally. However, there is a major difference in moral views and legal ones. A major position of Paul is to get the government out of the business of telling everyone what to do on many issues. Sadly the pundits turn his legal views into moral ones. And then the misinformation train leaves the station
You don't have to do mob action. You change the law on the requirements for death setence. No appeals for people that confess, 3 eyewitnesses, video evidence, and dna evidence.
And also, you can have a family member decide if they want the death penalty.
@taledarkside That's the most arbitrary solution I've ever heard. Put the pressure on the family to have the final say? There's a lot of problems with that. A lot of people don't want to be holding the smoking gun, they're fine when someone else cleans up their shit, no one wants to do it themselves. The death penalty is just stupid, it's the most visceral, irrational, uncivilized and Barbaric institution that's still clinging to the edge of the Western World - that edge is America.
@Fireman27852 Not everything's about money, grow up a bit, most people who make money a basis of all their decisions generally aren't that intelligent. The death money is wrong. Simple. Get with the times, America is the last Developed country that still practices it. Do you really want to continue to be in league with Muslims and Pakistan?
@12Ominous Hmmm.... When did I say everything's about money? Intelligent adults generally read and understand statements before telling someone else to "grow up". When I mention the tax payer cost on capital cases, its to counter the general misconception that its monetarily cheaper to put someone to death. I also mention the deterrent defense as false as well. Apparently you've misunderstood my comments.
@12Ominous Fail.. This quote is in response to the statement of rope being cheap. And my response to the costs of trying a case that may possible end in the death penalty. Wow you take things out of context quickly, do you work for FOX?. Even the statement alone doesn't say everything is about money. I mention costs because the myth of it being cheaper is the most common response when you bring up the debate. Most aren't too informed on the subject.
Every criminal should be sent to a prison which they smoke Marijuana 24/7 and farm their own food....teach em to Mellow the fuck out! and cook and feed their families
@peksful it depends on which definition you use, i believe it is a drug because it is an intoxicant but that dosent mean it should mean it should be illegal(also i love the shit out of it) cuz look how many intoxicants are legal ie alchohal and tobacco, hell even herion is legal throgh its deritive codein(which i also love) but while it may not a be a drug in the sense its not man made it still fucks you up but you should have the freedom to fuk yourself up the gov cant protect you from yourself
The basic idea of the death penalty: Guilty people are killed quickly rather than having to suffer gang violence and prison rape, and taxpayer dollars aren't used to feed the murderering scum.
Our death penalty: Mostly guilty people suffer gang violence and prison rape while waiting to be killed, and taxpayer dollars are used to feed the murdering scum that send millions of soldiers to their deaths for profit.
Capital crimes deserve no less than capital punishment. The bureaucracy is not exempt.
Really? So you believe that everyone is a murderer? If I steal then something of mine should be taken away..that is an eye for an eye...something wrong with that?
If I murder, I should be killed, but most people, myself included, don't murder and don't rape, etc
@ThatkidwithCP Hey now, I don't like Obama, but don't ever say the president should be killed. Voted out next election? Sure. Impeached? Absolutely! But do NOT wish death upon anyone, least of all someone who managed to become the president of the United States of America.
Sure can, because some crimes are so despicable, so henuous, that there should never be a chance for that person to commit such a crime again, ie ted bundy, charles manson, jeffrey dalmer, etc. Society as a whole is better without such people simply rotting in jail for the rest of their lives at tax payer expense with a chance of escaping and committing such crimes again.
@lessiv our country was founded by some religious people as well as a few non belivers. they made the constitution and bill.. ect. in that "god" speech way because that was the norm then. but if you read the constitution (no insult inteded i just assume your not from the US the way your talking) it says we can worship whoever we want whatever we want. we are very diverse with ethics. also god never said we couldnt kill bad people. or not fight wars that scrip. is talking about char. lol
@lessiv Character* judging someone for a belief they have and so on. as for "christian country" we are not a christian country. We are a Catholic, Buddist, Islam, Christian, Cult, satan worshipers, Hippies, Pacifists, Spiritual, Non Spiritual, Athiest, Jew, Gentile. and anything else you can think of. bro. any American knows what im talkin about right people?
Just because you have small amounts of people who believe differently from the main religion of America does not make America a multi cultural nation with many different religions.America is a Christian nation.
@taledarkside your statement just confused the hell out of me. do you say that christians are not supposed to make everyone happy? i believe that jesus called everyone brothers and sisters...
I'm saying people in America, "TODAY" are offended when you do anything that refers to religion. People don't want Xmas as a holiday because not everyone is christian, eventhough they can ignore the holiday. People don'like the word "GOD" in text used in the US government.
So America will censor its christianity and other "traditions" to make athiests, gays, and liberals happy.
@taledarkside im further confused. so you say that being gay and/or liberal disqualifies you from being christian? referring to god in government text remains right because of needed segregation of religion and state. I believe this has been noted before by a man called jefferson in a document called the US constitution.
Killing is not against the commandments, murder is. When a person kills others, death is what is prescribed in the Bible.
"Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God He made man" (Genesis 9:6).
If you look further into the Bible Matthew 5:21-22, you will see that Jesus says here is that just as execution is the required punishment for murder, those who speak hostile words to others and have hatred in their hearts will suffer eternity in hell.
@lessiv two big reasons why the death penalty, one is that many see it as wrong that these inmates get life in prison and live on our dime, they get three hots and a cot as well as a doctor and many life of life's hard earned joys (TV, video games ect.)
and other reason is some people have done such evil things and they spend the next 50 years with no chance of parole and no remorse
as evil as it sounds, there are people who need to die, we just need to find better ways on finding who they are.
@lessiv The countries values change as with the times. Less religilous leaders get into political positions and so the Christian aspect is thrown out and most people supporting the death penalty would not receive the penalty even if they were convicted for the same crime as a person of lower stature and with less expenses. I think since most people do not witness what is happening they ignore it.
@Scattnam Nigga shut the fuck up lol America wont look "weak". Beside fuck Israel, fuck War On Terror, Fuck Romney, oh and fuck you. Have a nice life crazy badster...
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Ron Paul makes a lot of sense with many of his views but people write him off and don't even try to understand what he's actually saying first. If everyone did their own research instead of only listening to the biased talking heads on tv and radio, it would make a world of difference. Sadly, too many are lazy and gullible. Once info has been filtered, paraphrased, and taken out of context a few times, the meaning can totally change. Smarten up folks!
I agree. The system is far too corrupt and wrong at times to be able to condemn someone to death. Mistakes could be made. I know it sucks when someone really truly deserves it and we have to pay their living expenses via taxes.
I belief that convicted criminals should all be forced to work normal shifts in order to pay their own living expenses. That way, if you are innocent, your doing what you would normally be doing anways and if you are guilty, then we dont pay for you via taxes.
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postpile 1 week ago
Lol demon.
Yea he's right our system is too corrupt and unfair to kill people
TheFr3sh1 1 week ago
holyfuck thats a good reason, a politician gave a good reason... holy fuck what else is he telling the truth about?... oh wait... everything, he's telling the truth about everything.
demondays7 1 week ago
HE IS THE MAN!
Bismal5 1 week ago
If I was an American I'd vote for Ron Paul all the way. I wish there was a politician like him for me to vote for in Australia!
Come on USA elect Ron for the worlds sake to!
lllTzonTzonlll 2 weeks ago
@lllTzonTzonlll
you want a dumb politician in australia too? just vote for a crocodile
taledarkside 2 weeks ago
@taledarkside ...what are you talking about?? Anyways, crocodiles are the most highly evolved creatures on the planet... they can't be that dumb.
lllTzonTzonlll 1 week ago
@lllTzonTzonlll
They live in their own piss water. LOL what a retard sheep.
taledarkside 1 week ago
death penalty should be optional for the convicted
MemphisGreenMan 2 weeks ago
But still supports the states' right to execute. Nice dodge, Ronnie.
termsofusepolice 2 weeks ago
@termsofusepolice Lol, good point.
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awhitesoul2012 3 weeks ago
I used to be in complete favor of the death penalty. Now, I'm a believer in forgiveness and mercy. Certain circumstances I feel it's necessary though.
MrJdom24 3 weeks ago
Nature gave all of us lives, only it has the right to take it !
bogati143 3 weeks ago
Dumbest thing I ever heard lol
URAMoronlol 3 weeks ago
Watching videos of the debates, after interviews, interviews from all the media outlets, etc, is not propaganda. Believing rhetoric that can't be backed up is propaganda. For a gold analogy: Let's say 20 yrs ago, 1 paper dollar bought 1 flake of gold, today it takes 5 paper dollars to buy the same flake. Printing out 5 more dollars didn't make 5 more units of gold appear, it caused the value of the dollar to go down and the one flake to cost more to get.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
Ron Paul gets the independent's vote, which is what wins the general election. A tremendous amount of those independents who put obama in the white house will not vote for him again. Hardcore Repubs will vote for whoever the nominee is, hardcore dems will vote obama no matter what. the independents vote on the individual. I think it comes down to Paul or Obama
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
Good luck with that theory that people actually want ron paul. And independent people like myself do not vote for republicans, even if their name is Ron Paul.
ron paul supporters don't preach anything, they just repeat the same thing they have brainwashed about. And they even don't understand American history and how the constitution is hypocritical.
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside you call yourself an independent but you "do not vote for republicans". You're not an independent then. Independents vote on individuals based on their individual views, not a party line. A lot of us understand American history just fine. Actual history, not just the edited version on the tv. Listen to Ron Paul's vids on economics and how he's been predicting the current decline for years, and why. Good history lessons for you there.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
everyone predicted the economy was going to crash. So ron paul is savior. republican party is a "party line"
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside you're kidding right? everyone predicted the economy crash? Maybe the night before, but years and years earlier? No. Look up Keynesian economics and click on vids from the 90's when the economic "experts" were laughing at Paul and like minded people who spelled out what was coming. Yes, republican is a party line, i understand what i said, apparently you do not. Independents vote regardless of party, just on individual merit.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
When gas prices increase 100%, interest rates change dramastical in the 90s, everyone saw the economy going into a hole. Ron Paul is no savior retard.
Only people that vote for parties have a set belief of what that party represents. I know that concept is hard for you to grasp.
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside Didn't say he was a savior, I said he was one of the few who predicted exactly how it was going to happen. My point is he understands the best how it works. In hindsight, everyone says they should have seen it coming, but that's not the case, especially with housing. The other folks running now didn't. Paul was trying to change things before it collapsed. Its a credability on who can actually change things, instead of just throwing out the same old rhetoric.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
Ron Paul is a little man that can't do anything. Many many people predected the economy failing. So you still are making ron paul out as a savior beause you claim he predicted something when it was common knowledge. If you educated yourself, you would have seen the economy collapsing too.
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside With the gas prices, Paul spoke out about how it was due to inflation and fiat money, hence his mission to audit the fed. Wants to phase out the fed (who arbitrarily control the interest rates). He wants to go back to the gold standard, which if we still had, the gas prices would stay stable. Sounds like you're not even trying to understand what he's been saying. Research him before ranting about some cult crap.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
I don't care what ron paul says because he is no savior.
everyone predicted the economy was going downhill when gas price increase 100%
Gas wouldn't say stable if we went to a gold standard. You think the middle easterns that hate america are going to sell gas cheap ROFL
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside This is why his supporters are passionate. The dullards just go on what the tv says and don't do their own homework. When they repeat the edited garbage from the regular media, Paul's fans counter them with verifiable facts easily looked up, but people are too lazy to research. Its frustrating that folks like you simply don't understand what he says and what he's been saying for decades now.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
You mean just like the ron paul cult that just repeat the propaganda from ron pauls campaigning website.
its funny when you coudn't back anything up with fact on how gas would be cheaper with the gold standard, oh wait, you are in a ron paul cult, and there is no answer on his website.
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside I'm thinking you don't quite understand economics and what inflation actually means. Here's your facts: What we pay for gas is higher because our paper dollar has a much lower purchasing power today than it used to. Base it on gold or silver, it is the same or even lower. Please look this up, the info is everywhere. I don't just repeat whats on his campaign sites, I watch multiple, entire interviews he's had over many years and try to understand what he says.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside If I feel something is propaganda, I look up independent, verifiable sources. What do you do?
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
So how will the gold standard make gas prices get cheaper? strange that you can't answer a simple economic question.
And if you need to have people watch propaganda videos because you have no clue what you are talking about, that explains a lot of the intelligence of the ron paul cult.
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside All these video's I'm pointing you to that you refuse to watch are here on you tube, not Ron Paul's site. Listen to them and fact check. Farthest thing from simple propaganda. All candidates have some propaganda, the failure to fact check from independent sources is simple ignorance. You disagree with someone's view and call them a cultist or something. That's schoolyard childishness usually reserved for those that have no argument left
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how gas prices will go down if it was changed to the gold standard.
why are you avoiding the quesiton, when it was you pushing the ideology?
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside From my analogy, use the flake of gold that now costs 5 dollars to buy the gas, now its one flake for a gallon instead of 5 dollars. Quit printing the dollars based on nothing, base them on the gold, and then you can't just print out arbitrarily, which drives the prices up. It's more complicated than this, yes, and s&d is also a factor, but basing the dollar on actual gold would stabilize it more.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside put more simply, prices go down when our dollar is worth more instead of less. Fiat money makes inflation rates speed up.
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
So when Opec decides to supply 10million barrels when the US needs 15 million barrels that will not make gas prices sky rocket?
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside As i stated, s&d is also a factor, but printing money based on nothing makes it worth less and drives debt up. Check history, there's been times in the US when demand dropped, but prices still went up. Its all about the purchasing power of the paper dollar
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
I don't need to check history, since I was alive before today. Something ron paul cultists always say.
And there is more to it besides supply and demand with purchasing crude oil. You should research that instead of just blaiming everything on the feds.
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
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@taledarkside "I don't need to check history" This tells me you'd rather just argue then look up facts. I've tried to point you to independent sources and other vids that are not propaganda and all you got is "cult this, propaganda that" Lets get back to this death penalty video. Do you still think Ron Paul doesn't like the death penalty because dna evidence is flawed? Or did you concede my point after I posted the link to another video where he explained his point more clearly?
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside Don't misconstrue what the fed means. It's not just the reserve (private entity of course) but it's also the federal government that makes our problems with oil. The EPA keeps us from becoming energy Independent therefore we keep depending on the corrupt OPEC nations for oil. You are right the fed is only part of the the problem but the other fed is the other part of it.
flatblackstrat 2 weeks ago
@flatblackstrat
Hippies are keeping us from becoming energy independent. We will be forced to have electric cars probably in 15years, so no big worries about oil dependency besides heavy machinery.
taledarkside 2 weeks ago
@taledarkside Search this video and listen to Peter Schiff vs multiple economic "experts" on the housing bubble. Skip to about 3 minutes for Schiff. I don't understand how you're denying this stuff. Keynesian Economics vs. Austrian Economics
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside here's one I found on the subject. There's another from another person but I couldn't find it.
youtube.com/watch?v=x-RPJ7fkqDE
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
Go blackfox416! What an effective deterrent that would be!
sifeliciano256 4 weeks ago
i thank we shod go back to public execution and get read of these repeated offenders
BlackFox416 4 weeks ago
I think that I would have preferred to hear him say that he is against it because there IS a better way to 'punish' people such as choosing compassion and educating them. If someone does something wrong WHATEVER it is what the helll does that say for us or them who decide to kill that person in response to their behaviour. Doesn't that make us worse? It doesn't make sense to me. I am going to show you that you did wrong by doing something worse! what? it's crazy!
purrrfect78 4 weeks ago
I personally cannot support a system where the innocent are put to death, but where the elite sends thousands of Americans to their deaths under false pretenses (MURDER) and go free. Only when we reform the death penalty will our brave men and women see justice!
lordvoldemuggle 1 month ago
I love Ron Paul b/c he gives you real answers. not a bunch of "uhhhhh's and "well this is politics" answers like bush or obama. the man has no fear, he speaks the truth despite what the government wnats him to do. this is what we need is someone powerful enough to over throw the governments ill ways, and restore America to being the greatest and most free country in the world, and without ron paul. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. SO VOTE RON PAUL. GIVE HIM A CHANCE.
adayinforever 1 month ago
@adayinforever i hope he will not get killed because of that :(
i wish usa the best and the only hope is Ron Paul i believe. i have seen what them evil powerful men can do.. media and all that.. they lie to their peopel!! Ron Paul is so real.. and im not even from the USA, but I can see this.. So if Ron Paul doesnt get choosen idk what to believe..
i wish you all the best usa and the people in it.. as ron paul does.. best best wishes from sweden!! (sorry for my bad english).
DjMusicMang 1 month ago 2
@DjMusicMang
As an American, I thank you for your kind words! God bless us all.
Foreverhidion3 3 weeks ago
I stumbled on this guy whilst trying to learn more about american politics, and all I can say is he'd have my vote!
mwinnful 1 month ago
RON PAUL!!! :)
MissSunflowerSummer 1 month ago
I love him! and this is from a black woman
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97gs500e 1 month ago
IM BLACK AND I LOVE RON. DUDE `SPEAK THE TRUTH
geordany11 1 month ago 23
@geordany11 Who gives a shit what skin color you have?
LiberalBohemian 1 month ago
@LiberalBohemian Because the only thing the opposition has to use against Ron Paul are those stupid newsletters, which allege that Ron Paul is a racist, primarily towards black people, and black people rarely vote republican anyway, so black endorsements are very important for Ron Paul. What an aggressive thing to say on your part.
givemearandomnamenow 1 month ago
@givemearandomnamenow I'm a libertarian ergo I can't be racist. Right?
LiberalBohemian 1 month ago
@LiberalBohemian Liberal is the first half of your username, so I doubt it ...
givemearandomnamenow 1 month ago
@givemearandomnamenow I went over your head. I was talking about Ron Paul's argument for why he wasn't a racist. And btw labels are misleading, sir. "Liberal" was the convenient word because it's shorter, but "libertarian" better characterizes my views.
LiberalBohemian 1 month ago
@geordany11 Thanks brother.
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semp223 1 month ago
I hope history remember him please electe this man
alexandrehachecet 1 month ago
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bkramer7 1 month ago
OMG AMERICANS WHY DON'T YOU ELECT THIS GUY??
Nanozlolz 1 month ago 3
@Nanozlolz
why do you want people to elect an idiot? LOL voting for a career politician with alex jones as his lobbyist.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@Nanozlolz because they are too stupid who cant think for themselves and let the controlled mainstream media form their decisions and opinions.
tonythesom 1 month ago
I think you should choose if you want the death penalty
affilinet 1 month ago
I can't believe The United States, supposedly the greatest nation in the world, operates with death penalty.
Eye for an eye does not belong in the civillized world.
frobank 1 month ago
@frobank
If i was a civilized world, then people wouldn't be committing murder.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside That's a good point. However, my point was; is it right for a supposedly civillized society (or let's say civillized government) to strike back with the same coin?
frobank 1 month ago
@frobank
you cant have it both ways. You can't have a civilized society, when individuals are killing people. So having a death penalty isn't being hypocritical.
taledarkside 1 month ago
not a word that this violates the most important of all human rights, which are the only backbone to a worldly society
scholz9876 1 month ago
The ONLY great American on that stage is Ron Paul
DaveBleicher 1 month ago 3
I want to hug Ron Paul.
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1) Ron Paul thinks the states have the right to make laws forbidding homosexuality
2) Ron Paul thinks abortions should be illegal all over america.
3) Ron Paul is against every form of healthcare. in his opinion the government should not help the people financially at all.
don't hate on me. look it up first. i just want you all to know who you are voting for. feel free to spread the word.
greennin 1 month ago
@greennin 1) You put that entirely out of context. He is not against gays or anything like that. He's just saying that it's such a minor issue that the federal government should not have to deal with. Besides, it's about gay marriage - allowing the states to be able to "ban" homosexual behaviour would be discrimination at a very high level.
2) Same thing here. He said he wants to hand over the responsibility to the states.
3) I don't know much about this part, so I'm not going to argue
frobank 1 month ago
@frobank hi, i didn't mean to formulate it in a negative way. i'm just trying to bring people the facts. i'll just talk about the first point: i know he's not against gays himself, but i did read that he doesn't care if the states make laws forbidding "sodomy". and it probably doesn't breach the constitution so no, it's not a very high level of discrimination in the USA (in europe it would be of course)
greennin 1 month ago
@greennin sodomy also includes oral sex, actually, so even heterosexuals are breaking that one too! :D
TheLPMason 1 month ago
@TheLPMason sodomy does not have to include oral sex. the states sodomy laws have to specify that more exactly. but yeah, if you vote for ron paul, blow jobs may become illegal in your state. true story ;)
greennin 1 month ago
@greennin Lol they actually already are in my state xD Georgia
TheLPMason 1 month ago
@TheLPMason ....americans
greennin 1 month ago
@TheLPMason save yourself, move to canada xDD
greennin 1 month ago
@greennin Lol as if cops are gonna bust down my door while I'm going down on my girlfriend and arrest me? XD
I can see them being like "Mason _______, we have a warrant for your arrest for committing acts of sodomy in the privacy of your home!" lol
But nah, I'll try to live here for as long as I can. If not, I got friends in Canada and opportunities in Hong Kong!
TheLPMason 1 month ago
@TheLPMason lol
greennin 1 month ago
the only issue i disagree with ron paul about. RON PAUL 2012
xMRBIGMATTx 1 month ago
If a system existed that could, without any error whatsoever, say if someone is guilty or not, I would be in favor of the death penalty. Why waste money on an evil person that will never get out of prison?
However, with this said, since there is no full-proof system, I cannot support the death penalty. If even one innocent person is executed, it's a travesty beyond words. Can you imagine this, being on death row knowing you did nothing wrong? The sheer horror of this is beyond words.
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dra353 1 month ago
The rich and poor arguement---class warfare-hmmmm
surfstomp 1 month ago
Not afraid to admit when his views have changed. Others try to cover up their old opinions.
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He specifically said federal, not state. A lot of Ron Paul's views are different at the state level. He opposes abortion, but believes it should be decided at the state level; it's therefore likely he would still support a death penalty if the state chose it. I like Ron Paul not because I agree with him on everything, but because he seems to be aware of where his views should end and law begins.
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MyChemicalBromance 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012!
QuangNokonoko 1 month ago 69
ron paul doesn't flip flop when it's politically advantageous, he flip flops when he gets ALL the information and makes the right and morally conscious decision.
emptycorp 1 month ago 5
@emptycorp
so ron paul is a flip flopper. thanks for getting that clear.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside There's a difference between changing your mind/opinions based on gaining a better, and more correct, understanding on a topic versus changing it depending on the crowd you're in front of. But, that fact obviously escaped you when you made that ignorant comment.
emptycorp 1 month ago
@emptycorp
Yup, ron paul changing his opinion to gain votes. Just like he was parading a US soldier on stage when he knew it was wrong too do. Another corrupt poltician trying to win an election.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside how is it wrong to let a supporter speak at his podium after the same supporter was cut off earlier after trying to speak? You don't like freedom of speech? He explains clearly why he changed his opinion on the death penalty. To counter your "to gain votes" argument, he'll probably lose some republican votes for being against the death penalty. Remember Gingrich got a standing O when he says "lets go in and kill their scientists...."
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
@Fireman27852
LOL freedom of speech, that doesn't exist with ron paul supporters.
Gingrich is an idiot. dumb career politician like ron paul. Ron Paul barely gets any republican votes when he is a libertarian. He doesn't have the balls like the other candidates to be in a real party.
taledarkside 3 weeks ago
@taledarkside Ron Paul and supporters preach again and again and again about constitutional rights including freedom of religion, speech, etc. etc etc. over and over and over again. I don't get where you're drawing your conclusions from. You can disagree with his platform but you can't simply ignore the core values he promotes in just about every video on here. And in many of his speeches on the congressional floor. He's extremely consistent on these points. Where's the confusion?
Fireman27852 3 weeks ago
120minous said only 1 country does the death penalty. When in reality, 57 countries still sentence people to death.
what do you expect from conspiracy theorists, they don't do any research besides watching alex jones on youtube.
taledarkside 1 month ago
This man is amazing.
jaydenparsons96 1 month ago
Im 16 years old and am really into politics, world and social issues, etc and im just amazed how 90% of the stuff that came out of Herman Cain's mouth didnt make sense as well as Romeny, and Gingrich. But everything Ron Paul says is flawless, and makes perfect sense! RON PAUL 2012
ibradabeast 1 month ago
people don't have to die for punishment .. take does prisoners in coma and use there body heat and electrical synapses for power production.. 1000 people producing enough heat and electrical synap to run a great deal of things we need energy for.
they have there punishment we have the benifit for them actual returning something back to the people they hurt and or did wrong.
and its cheaper only have to feed them and store them in smal container with a fluid. think matrix movie;)
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dennisjo88 1 month ago
i said that i dont trust this govement and i say ron paul is a aman for the job...
and believe obama and his words ,,,in campain speeches ofhim oand what is truth about all his promises.. i cant name 1 thing . ..so on a healty base critical thinking is not that bad...why voting if you never mention that..becaus eit is ahard fact and evedidence ..that seams that you choose a mean with knowing what he steand for and that he shows also thainreality,,..and you call me a retard ..??lol bye
dennisjo88 1 month ago
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dennisjo88 1 month ago
@dennisjo88 That is the single most retarded post I've ever read on YouTube. Please tell me you have downs.
greenchef6 1 month ago
@greenchef6
sorry bro i deleted the message .you are completely right ...
and ,i say such retarded stuff btw only becaue idont trust this doverment anymore and ron paul is in my eyes the last man that realy whant to do about it....i see only actors
greetz
dennisjo88 1 month ago
@dennisjo88
ron paul hasn't done anything for the last 30 years. good luck with your conspiracies
taledarkside 1 month ago
I wonder why the US still executes the death penalty while every other Western country doesn't any more. There are studies from American universities which show that many people who have been executed were probably not guilty. Who can give them their lives back? If they had only been imprisoned you could free them and pay a recompensation. I don't see a single advantage. It is very expensive, does not have a deterrent effect and is likely to be unjustified in many cases.
knowthatyoudontknow 1 month ago
@knowthatyoudontknow
A rope isn't that expenisive.
Maybe you will see an advantage when some guy takes a knife and stabs your mom in the neck.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside It would be this cheap if we go back to mob justice. Not many here are arguing against the death penalty morally. However, there is a major difference in moral views and legal ones. A major position of Paul is to get the government out of the business of telling everyone what to do on many issues. Sadly the pundits turn his legal views into moral ones. And then the misinformation train leaves the station
Fireman27852 1 month ago
@Fireman27852
You don't have to do mob action. You change the law on the requirements for death setence. No appeals for people that confess, 3 eyewitnesses, video evidence, and dna evidence.
And also, you can have a family member decide if they want the death penalty.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside That's the most arbitrary solution I've ever heard. Put the pressure on the family to have the final say? There's a lot of problems with that. A lot of people don't want to be holding the smoking gun, they're fine when someone else cleans up their shit, no one wants to do it themselves. The death penalty is just stupid, it's the most visceral, irrational, uncivilized and Barbaric institution that's still clinging to the edge of the Western World - that edge is America.
12Ominous 1 month ago
@12Ominous
Then if the family doesn't decide, you have a jury decide while they convict him of murder.
You must be really uneducated if you think the US is the only country that executes people.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside The only developed country. Google. It's common knowledge, no other developed country still uses the death penalty.
12Ominous 1 month ago
@taledarkside You'll understand when you grow up.
12Ominous 1 month ago
@taledarkside Why it's wrong.
12Ominous 1 month ago
@Fireman27852 Not everything's about money, grow up a bit, most people who make money a basis of all their decisions generally aren't that intelligent. The death money is wrong. Simple. Get with the times, America is the last Developed country that still practices it. Do you really want to continue to be in league with Muslims and Pakistan?
12Ominous 1 month ago
@12Ominous Hmmm.... When did I say everything's about money? Intelligent adults generally read and understand statements before telling someone else to "grow up". When I mention the tax payer cost on capital cases, its to counter the general misconception that its monetarily cheaper to put someone to death. I also mention the deterrent defense as false as well. Apparently you've misunderstood my comments.
Fireman27852 1 month ago
@Fireman27852
He is a dumb conspiracy theorist. They don't know how to comprehend anything they read.
taledarkside 1 month ago
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@Fireman27852 "It would be this cheap if we go back to mob justice."
12Ominous 1 month ago
@12Ominous Fail.. This quote is in response to the statement of rope being cheap. And my response to the costs of trying a case that may possible end in the death penalty. Wow you take things out of context quickly, do you work for FOX?. Even the statement alone doesn't say everything is about money. I mention costs because the myth of it being cheaper is the most common response when you bring up the debate. Most aren't too informed on the subject.
Fireman27852 1 month ago
@Fireman27852 Fair enough.
12Ominous 1 month ago
Every criminal should be sent to a prison which they smoke Marijuana 24/7 and farm their own food....teach em to Mellow the fuck out! and cook and feed their families
peksful 1 month ago
@peksful
so you want a mass murderer to do drugs in jail and do no punishment?
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside lmao weed is not a drug..
peksful 1 month ago
@peksful
oh good, i always knew weed couldn't cure cancer, since it isn't a drug.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@peksful it depends on which definition you use, i believe it is a drug because it is an intoxicant but that dosent mean it should mean it should be illegal(also i love the shit out of it) cuz look how many intoxicants are legal ie alchohal and tobacco, hell even herion is legal throgh its deritive codein(which i also love) but while it may not a be a drug in the sense its not man made it still fucks you up but you should have the freedom to fuk yourself up the gov cant protect you from yourself
channelname0 1 month ago
The basic idea of the death penalty: Guilty people are killed quickly rather than having to suffer gang violence and prison rape, and taxpayer dollars aren't used to feed the murderering scum.
Our death penalty: Mostly guilty people suffer gang violence and prison rape while waiting to be killed, and taxpayer dollars are used to feed the murdering scum that send millions of soldiers to their deaths for profit.
Capital crimes deserve no less than capital punishment. The bureaucracy is not exempt.
lordvoldemuggle 1 month ago 10
@lordvoldemuggle If it's always an eye for an eye we would all eventually go blind.
AmidstEpics 1 month ago
@AmidstEpics
Really? So you believe that everyone is a murderer? If I steal then something of mine should be taken away..that is an eye for an eye...something wrong with that?
If I murder, I should be killed, but most people, myself included, don't murder and don't rape, etc
abbienetvision 1 month ago
@lordvoldemuggle
Well fucking said.
ThatJamesDude 1 month ago
@lordvoldemuggle I agree 100%. Barack Obama should be killed.
ThatkidwithCP 1 month ago
@ThatkidwithCP Hey now, I don't like Obama, but don't ever say the president should be killed. Voted out next election? Sure. Impeached? Absolutely! But do NOT wish death upon anyone, least of all someone who managed to become the president of the United States of America.
Onihikage 1 month ago
RON PAUL!! 2012!!
Budsmokerhaha 1 month ago
Can anyone tell me why a country (christian and human rights as values) like the US kill people? Romans 2.1 and so on
lessiv 1 month ago 20
@lessiv good call.
MrWtfevr 1 month ago
@lessiv
Romans? they killed Jesus Christ, and your crying about someone that committed real crimes.
shut the fuck up
taledarkside 1 month ago
@lessiv
Sure can, because some crimes are so despicable, so henuous, that there should never be a chance for that person to commit such a crime again, ie ted bundy, charles manson, jeffrey dalmer, etc. Society as a whole is better without such people simply rotting in jail for the rest of their lives at tax payer expense with a chance of escaping and committing such crimes again.
tycruise 1 month ago
@lessiv our country was founded by some religious people as well as a few non belivers. they made the constitution and bill.. ect. in that "god" speech way because that was the norm then. but if you read the constitution (no insult inteded i just assume your not from the US the way your talking) it says we can worship whoever we want whatever we want. we are very diverse with ethics. also god never said we couldnt kill bad people. or not fight wars that scrip. is talking about char. lol
djphilmore 1 month ago
@lessiv Character* judging someone for a belief they have and so on. as for "christian country" we are not a christian country. We are a Catholic, Buddist, Islam, Christian, Cult, satan worshipers, Hippies, Pacifists, Spiritual, Non Spiritual, Athiest, Jew, Gentile. and anything else you can think of. bro. any American knows what im talkin about right people?
djphilmore 1 month ago 3
@djphilmore exactly! wtf christian country?
marioftwpwned 1 month ago
@marioftwpwned i know right? this guy must be on one lol.
djphilmore 1 month ago
@djphilmore
Just because you have small amounts of people who believe differently from the main religion of America does not make America a multi cultural nation with many different religions.America is a Christian nation.
theshow2k8 1 month ago
@theshow2k8 you don't live here do you? lol
djphilmore 1 month ago
@theshow2k8
America USE TO BE a Christian nation. Now America wants to make everyone happy, thats why it sucks.
Thats why you can't compare europe to the US because of the culture difference.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside european culture is just not working, smoking, and living off other countries' hard work.
itsGdublan 1 month ago
@taledarkside your statement just confused the hell out of me. do you say that christians are not supposed to make everyone happy? i believe that jesus called everyone brothers and sisters...
scholz9876 1 month ago
@scholz9876
no i didn't say that.
I'm saying people in America, "TODAY" are offended when you do anything that refers to religion. People don't want Xmas as a holiday because not everyone is christian, eventhough they can ignore the holiday. People don'like the word "GOD" in text used in the US government.
So America will censor its christianity and other "traditions" to make athiests, gays, and liberals happy.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@taledarkside im further confused. so you say that being gay and/or liberal disqualifies you from being christian? referring to god in government text remains right because of needed segregation of religion and state. I believe this has been noted before by a man called jefferson in a document called the US constitution.
scholz9876 1 month ago
@scholz9876
This has nothing about being christian. I said people who are NOT christian, tell the US government to censor christianity.
taledarkside 1 month ago
@lessiv
Killing is not against the commandments, murder is. When a person kills others, death is what is prescribed in the Bible.
"Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God He made man" (Genesis 9:6).
If you look further into the Bible Matthew 5:21-22, you will see that Jesus says here is that just as execution is the required punishment for murder, those who speak hostile words to others and have hatred in their hearts will suffer eternity in hell.
abbienetvision 1 month ago
@lessiv two big reasons why the death penalty, one is that many see it as wrong that these inmates get life in prison and live on our dime, they get three hots and a cot as well as a doctor and many life of life's hard earned joys (TV, video games ect.)
and other reason is some people have done such evil things and they spend the next 50 years with no chance of parole and no remorse
as evil as it sounds, there are people who need to die, we just need to find better ways on finding who they are.
cheatcodechamp 1 month ago
@lessiv Because america is scared of human rights and they only follow the barbaric side of christianity.
xvegansxex 1 month ago
@lessiv The punishment fits the crime...
TheGefro 1 month ago
@lessiv The countries values change as with the times. Less religilous leaders get into political positions and so the Christian aspect is thrown out and most people supporting the death penalty would not receive the penalty even if they were convicted for the same crime as a person of lower stature and with less expenses. I think since most people do not witness what is happening they ignore it.
Br0adHead 1 month ago
@Scattnam Nigga shut the fuck up lol America wont look "weak". Beside fuck Israel, fuck War On Terror, Fuck Romney, oh and fuck you. Have a nice life crazy badster...
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ronpaul2012hope 1 month ago
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Fireman27852 1 month ago
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