Very, very interesting discussion here! I would not repeat topics, but perhaps one should consider the Guitar Player as a musician who wants basically two things: high playability, great sound. I was surprised as I tested some "axes" of exciting looking shape and appearance, BUT: playing most of them was a great disappointment. So I returned happily to my PRS and will barely look for "something different". There are reasons, why certain shapes and models are so successful. Just my humble opinion
I really enjoyed watching this video and the insight it has given me into how you build your awesome guitars. Thanks so much for sharing this.
B.t.w. the end product looks and sounds great!!! And who cares if it's similar to a PRS. PRS's are good guitars and so are Ormsby's. There's plenty of room in the guitar world for well built and great sounding/playing instruments as far as I'm concerned.
Keep up good work and thanks for continuing to do Australia proud!!!
Perry, you do build a beautiful guitar no two ways about. I do wish though that you'd do something that really was totally original in style, rock music needs this man. The typical Jackson/PRS etc, etc is great but really done to death. Man I'll do you some designs if you like...Australia needs to be put on the map.
@slapitman Mate, I build custom guitars. These designs are what people are ordering. You would be surprised how many people DONT want something different, and I have to convince most people just to trust me and add a few extra special touches as it is.
@rhoads56 see thats where I differ from most people, if I was to have enough cash to buy a guitar evary week I would get one diffarent each time ^_^ and each would be my own style, a true custom guitar, not a copy O_o but you make awesome guitar.
Having said that, what do you think of the Multiscales? We are really working hard to be in a position where we can sell those through stores. Its hard when everything we do is a one off though, but we are looking at automated machinery at the moment which will assist.
Check out my guitars. I do build them and I try not to copy and do my best to innovate. I merely said it as it is. That guitar looks very very close to a PRS and others have posted similar comments. No insult intended to the builder, he does great work, even looks a bit more pro than my stuff, however if he made his own unique look he would stand out more from the rest. Still think the guitar looks great, different shape would just make it all the sweeter!.
Again this is a great guitar with great craftsmanship! I love carved tops! very PRS like and I love how their guitars look over a lot of other brands. Good job with the headstock design. I like it.
It's totally a copy of PRS. Nice guitar, don't get me wrong, but why is it that most guitar makers are afraid to step away from the ordinary and make something that when you see it, you go WOW what is that, who made that. Rather most guitars look very similar to other brands so no one will notice them. Instead they will say oh theres a PRS brand or fender or gibson. Thats why I chose to make my own instruments. (youtube page radixbloom) I was tired of cookie cutter guitars. Just an observation.
Wha?! Your kidding right? Of course it's not a DIRECT copy, he would get sued. He came as close as he could and changed a couple small things. Even the headstock is based off of the PRS shape. However like I said if I was to make a guitar that was close to a copy, I would choose PRS above any other. The guitar does look nice, but I think many would think PRS when they see it, thats all.
well it's a matter of preference. but really, how often do you really need four knobs when you can do basically the same job with two? unless you are just super worried about your tone or volume right when you switch pickups and in the middle of a song where you wouldn't have time to change it, what's the point? if you do that a lot fine but if not it just takes up space on that beautifully carved figured maple!
i don't see what a second cutaway has to do with it, you can have four with a second cutaway. and it's Form Follows Function. but idk, to me separate volume and tone knobs just seem a little superfluous and un-needed.
Well because its custom, nothing really. But the Gibson line DC Les Paul Standards are all made with the 2 knobs instead of 3 or 4. I would say tonally it makes all the optional differences in the world as to how much more you can get out of your guitar. Its not that i dont like DCs to look at, I think theyre much sweeter, but if I had to chose between 2 tone knobs/2 volume knobs, and getting a 2nd cutaway on my Les Paul, I say more tonal options than looks.
no disrespect, im not saying these arent beautiful guitars, they clearly are, and who builds them is very good @ what they do, but from a production point of veiw, its not producing the highest yeild.
i didnt say become the next epiphone company pumping out the same crappy LP copies. With solids works and a cnc, one can have there basic layouts, and very quickely change and customize the guitars to there liking. How do you think PRS custom shop guitars are made? CNC, can you tell me they are any inferior to a guitar who was cut on a band saw and shaped by hand, or inlays that were put in by hand, cause they are like 4 grand? no, infact the tolerance would be higher and more precise.
i plan on making my own guitar this winter with this method, a custom flame maple top razorback, with some intricate inlay. Ill make sure i post a video.
yeah but when does it stop being a custom guitar shop and just a massed produced guitar pumping machine? it's about each guitar being different and having their different characteristics. secondly, this is a small shop as you have noticed, how much do you think he would be paying to keep that thing maintained and working? it's more worth it for a larger shop with ppl to deal with that. finally, as rhoads56 said, if you know so much why don't you do it?
omg, if you noticed many times i stated not the next epiphone, just cause you use technology in you favor doesnt mean your selling your soul. An a decent 4x8 table will cost you about 8000 to 10000 dollars, and say 500 in tools. Maintenance is greasing it, can you say 10 dollars?? 10000 isnt a lot of money when each guitar costs 3000, and probably more than half of that is profit. THe thing will pay for it self in a year, and then he will have a free employee 4 life. I give up you can believe
(continued) or not but, its just intelegent business to do everything in your power to make profit and succeed, but i wont continue to try to convince anyone anymore, ots not worth the time time fill in these responses.
ya i agree, if you were just building yourself a guitar, thats how youd do it, but business is business, and he could sell in higher volume, make more profit and ,most likely because of this growth produce more and more differant guitars, which would beenfit the consumer
Why do you think more profit, and higher production is the answer? How is pumping out the same old guitars over and over benefiting the consumer? Isn't offering a totally unique, one off experience to commission a dream guitar of your own design, a better consumer benefit, than trying to become the next Epiphone mass production factory where guitars are offered in 'one of three options' to 'increase production'?
if he got himself a CNC router, he could produce 10 times the output, have nicer guitars and better tolerances, he makes nice work dont get worng, but he's using obsolete methods. His inlays probably take him a couple of hours, the router would do it in minutes and have like 2 thou tolerances.
Seriously I can't believe you built that for £1550 - thats around the starting price of a lot of luthiers around here, let alone for a monster like that!
better than PRS maybe?
Adamisarocker09 8 months ago
WONDERFUL GUITAR!!!!
beatoangelico128 1 year ago
Very, very interesting discussion here! I would not repeat topics, but perhaps one should consider the Guitar Player as a musician who wants basically two things: high playability, great sound. I was surprised as I tested some "axes" of exciting looking shape and appearance, BUT: playing most of them was a great disappointment. So I returned happily to my PRS and will barely look for "something different". There are reasons, why certain shapes and models are so successful. Just my humble opinion
bolijack 1 year ago
I really enjoyed watching this video and the insight it has given me into how you build your awesome guitars. Thanks so much for sharing this.
B.t.w. the end product looks and sounds great!!! And who cares if it's similar to a PRS. PRS's are good guitars and so are Ormsby's. There's plenty of room in the guitar world for well built and great sounding/playing instruments as far as I'm concerned.
Keep up good work and thanks for continuing to do Australia proud!!!
afoustic 1 year ago
Perry, you do build a beautiful guitar no two ways about. I do wish though that you'd do something that really was totally original in style, rock music needs this man. The typical Jackson/PRS etc, etc is great but really done to death. Man I'll do you some designs if you like...Australia needs to be put on the map.
slapitman 1 year ago
@slapitman Mate, I build custom guitars. These designs are what people are ordering. You would be surprised how many people DONT want something different, and I have to convince most people just to trust me and add a few extra special touches as it is.
rhoads56 1 year ago
@rhoads56 see thats where I differ from most people, if I was to have enough cash to buy a guitar evary week I would get one diffarent each time ^_^ and each would be my own style, a true custom guitar, not a copy O_o but you make awesome guitar.
snakev10v5 7 months ago
@slapitman
Having said that, what do you think of the Multiscales? We are really working hard to be in a position where we can sell those through stores. Its hard when everything we do is a one off though, but we are looking at automated machinery at the moment which will assist.
rhoads56 1 year ago
not very original .............................prs........
but still very nice and you take alot more care in making your guitars then them they use a lot of mechines to carve and cut ,very nice
withcy1 2 years ago
what tool did he use to carve the top
belowaveragejoe2 2 years ago
looks like a compressor-driven die-grinder to me.
(essentially a drill-mounted sanding pad but a lot tougher, usually used in metalwork.)
Hamer uses a similar technique I believe.
kerranz 2 years ago
Don't think it's compressor driven, looks electric but yes some kind of small grinder.
Dougie085 2 years ago
@belowaveragejoe2 hey bro did you find out what tool rhoads56 used to carve the top?
81mrmusicman 2 years ago
@81mrmusicman i think that Kerranz guy told me man, when i do im just gonns use a spokeshave and rasps and a palm sander
belowaveragejoe2 2 years ago
Perry does what the customer wants. He could if he wanted to do some crazy shape but instead he does what the customer wants.
gtrcam94 2 years ago
Anyone who bags Ormsby Guitars is a tool. You do it better!
rhoads56 - you make awesome guitars. You've inspired me to build my own axe. Awesome track too bro, keep up the good work.
guvna0 2 years ago
prs much
RadixBloom 2 years ago
You cant tell me that it does not look very very similar to a PRS. Thats all I was saying. Let's see something new people. Innovate don't copy.
RadixBloom 2 years ago
Check out my guitars. I do build them and I try not to copy and do my best to innovate. I merely said it as it is. That guitar looks very very close to a PRS and others have posted similar comments. No insult intended to the builder, he does great work, even looks a bit more pro than my stuff, however if he made his own unique look he would stand out more from the rest. Still think the guitar looks great, different shape would just make it all the sweeter!.
RadixBloom 2 years ago
Again this is a great guitar with great craftsmanship! I love carved tops! very PRS like and I love how their guitars look over a lot of other brands. Good job with the headstock design. I like it.
RadixBloom 3 years ago
It's totally a copy of PRS. Nice guitar, don't get me wrong, but why is it that most guitar makers are afraid to step away from the ordinary and make something that when you see it, you go WOW what is that, who made that. Rather most guitars look very similar to other brands so no one will notice them. Instead they will say oh theres a PRS brand or fender or gibson. Thats why I chose to make my own instruments. (youtube page radixbloom) I was tired of cookie cutter guitars. Just an observation.
RadixBloom 3 years ago
...I don't think Perry copies PRS, he's probably influenced but it's not anywhere near a direct copy.
slanderoushalo 2 years ago
Wha?! Your kidding right? Of course it's not a DIRECT copy, he would get sued. He came as close as he could and changed a couple small things. Even the headstock is based off of the PRS shape. However like I said if I was to make a guitar that was close to a copy, I would choose PRS above any other. The guitar does look nice, but I think many would think PRS when they see it, thats all.
Cheers!
RadixBloom 2 years ago
Basically a PRS wannabe. Similar headstocks, similar body style, similar inlays- instead of PRS birds you have sharks.
petedogg369 3 years ago
i think that should be worth more than $2850
WalstromT 3 years ago
beautiful guitars, ive started my very own out of some free black walnut in my grandads shop.
the body went great but ive already had to restart the neck 3 times.
conor1148 3 years ago
I love the look of DC Les Pauls, but why on earth would you not have the 4 knobs as oppose to the two ? Theyd be perfect otherwise.
Rendell05 3 years ago
well it's a matter of preference. but really, how often do you really need four knobs when you can do basically the same job with two? unless you are just super worried about your tone or volume right when you switch pickups and in the middle of a song where you wouldn't have time to change it, what's the point? if you do that a lot fine but if not it just takes up space on that beautifully carved figured maple!
bloeregard 3 years ago
Of course its a matter of preference. I would say seperate volume controls is a luxury worth having over a second cutaway. Function over Fashion.
Rendell05 3 years ago
i don't see what a second cutaway has to do with it, you can have four with a second cutaway. and it's Form Follows Function. but idk, to me separate volume and tone knobs just seem a little superfluous and un-needed.
bloeregard 3 years ago
Well because its custom, nothing really. But the Gibson line DC Les Paul Standards are all made with the 2 knobs instead of 3 or 4. I would say tonally it makes all the optional differences in the world as to how much more you can get out of your guitar. Its not that i dont like DCs to look at, I think theyre much sweeter, but if I had to chose between 2 tone knobs/2 volume knobs, and getting a 2nd cutaway on my Les Paul, I say more tonal options than looks.
Rendell05 3 years ago
no disrespect, im not saying these arent beautiful guitars, they clearly are, and who builds them is very good @ what they do, but from a production point of veiw, its not producing the highest yeild.
smithers115 3 years ago
i didnt say become the next epiphone company pumping out the same crappy LP copies. With solids works and a cnc, one can have there basic layouts, and very quickely change and customize the guitars to there liking. How do you think PRS custom shop guitars are made? CNC, can you tell me they are any inferior to a guitar who was cut on a band saw and shaped by hand, or inlays that were put in by hand, cause they are like 4 grand? no, infact the tolerance would be higher and more precise.
smithers115 3 years ago
I think you should start a business and show us how it should be done!
rhoads56 3 years ago
i plan on making my own guitar this winter with this method, a custom flame maple top razorback, with some intricate inlay. Ill make sure i post a video.
smithers115 3 years ago
or a prs mcCarty style
smithers115 3 years ago
yeah but when does it stop being a custom guitar shop and just a massed produced guitar pumping machine? it's about each guitar being different and having their different characteristics. secondly, this is a small shop as you have noticed, how much do you think he would be paying to keep that thing maintained and working? it's more worth it for a larger shop with ppl to deal with that. finally, as rhoads56 said, if you know so much why don't you do it?
bloeregard 3 years ago
omg, if you noticed many times i stated not the next epiphone, just cause you use technology in you favor doesnt mean your selling your soul. An a decent 4x8 table will cost you about 8000 to 10000 dollars, and say 500 in tools. Maintenance is greasing it, can you say 10 dollars?? 10000 isnt a lot of money when each guitar costs 3000, and probably more than half of that is profit. THe thing will pay for it self in a year, and then he will have a free employee 4 life. I give up you can believe
smithers115 3 years ago
(continued) or not but, its just intelegent business to do everything in your power to make profit and succeed, but i wont continue to try to convince anyone anymore, ots not worth the time time fill in these responses.
smithers115 3 years ago
ya i agree, if you were just building yourself a guitar, thats how youd do it, but business is business, and he could sell in higher volume, make more profit and ,most likely because of this growth produce more and more differant guitars, which would beenfit the consumer
smithers115 3 years ago
Why do you think more profit, and higher production is the answer? How is pumping out the same old guitars over and over benefiting the consumer? Isn't offering a totally unique, one off experience to commission a dream guitar of your own design, a better consumer benefit, than trying to become the next Epiphone mass production factory where guitars are offered in 'one of three options' to 'increase production'?
rhoads56 3 years ago
if he got himself a CNC router, he could produce 10 times the output, have nicer guitars and better tolerances, he makes nice work dont get worng, but he's using obsolete methods. His inlays probably take him a couple of hours, the router would do it in minutes and have like 2 thou tolerances.
smithers115 3 years ago
Sometimes its the act of building something by hand that gives a personal job satisfaction, that pressing some buttons on a computer cant achieve.
rhoads56 3 years ago
Seriously I can't believe you built that for £1550 - thats around the starting price of a lot of luthiers around here, let alone for a monster like that!
ihforever696 3 years ago
very prs xD
zxkevkop 3 years ago
Boy, that looked and sounded real nice. My hat's off to people who have the ability to build stuff like that. I couldn't even dream of doing it.
robibm2003 3 years ago
damn, beautiful guitar!
DEATHbyRAZORBACK 3 years ago
Wow, very nice guitar. And the soundtrack is awesome.
RozoRB 3 years ago
I've never been a fan of flame maple, but everything else about that guitar is amazing. The amp sounds amazing as well.
Zofar 3 years ago
nice work perry!
trenna1er 3 years ago