Thanks for the great video phunk. Ur always helping the Goukens out there. On a side note, how come we don't see your fight videos anymore? You're always entertaining to watch.
So what I'm getting based off this (amazing!!) video is that jumping in is still very risky against the infamous wake up DP I try using his demon flip focus and it works fir the most part but kens freaking angle always screws it up any thoughts? Btw awesome music!!!!
great vid, I always have problems with safe jump on Guile LK somersault, guess I am doing it too late. Gouken in AE is awesome you would love it, suggesting the cl.MP is +7 on hit since you can link a sweep very easily. Which means more setup for safe jumps, just need to know your next video of option selecting as a lot of people like to backdash during wakeup. It is important to shut them down.
@viperRX I had some problems with the bread and butter demonflip safejump for a while. I found out though there were two timings you had to learn. Sweep from a ground combo eg backthrow j.mp, sweep and fireball fadc sweep. You actually have more to set up if its a hard knockdown when the opponent is in the air and I was either whiffing or doing it too late depending on the combo before it.
@MrRIO1984 safejump setups only work against 4 frame reversals so you won't be able to safejump Ryu or Ken's SRK (it's possible but you need an attack with a long attack reach that I haven't found with Gouken yet). You can safejump 4 frame reversals like Cammy or Dans SRK. After the sweep immediately do Demonflip flip and hit a kick button at the apex of the jump and it should work. I usually have a problem with doing it too early and whiff the opponent completely. Hope that helps.
@phunksim Grab, dash hk demonflip and kick at the peak of the flip, isn't that a 3 frame safe jump? No one ever seems to shoryuken out of it. May be wrong though.
@stiffler2100 Grab, dash, demonflip at best will be a 4 frame reversal safejump. If you do it early enough you will be able to land to block an SRK. It's more of baiting a 3 frame reversal as you won't actually hit your opponent. It's good to bait but if you don't put the opponent in blockstun they can just throw you.
@Tuuvas Not just his palm, but everything they've done to him sounds like an incredible improvement in AE. I will miss old LP palm for sure though, but that and the backthrow nerf seem totally worth for all the other stuff he gets.
@Tuuvas He'll definately be better off. cl.mp frame advantage is pretty huge. Finally gives gouken some real frame trap setups. His nerf to backthrow causing grey damage might take some enjoyment out of playing him. I enjoyed doing a lot of "fancy" things off it. We're all going to end up doing hk. tatsu now off of backthrow now. His lp.palm is a toss up. No risk pressure from up close, but his lp.palm in super had a lot of uses after the opponent blocking a fireball.
Just what I needed! I know a few myself and I've mained Gouken since vanilla, but I'm not a stats person, so this is going to improve my game alot. Do you mind if I take a few of these set ups and put them on my overseer guide? Of course I'll give full credit and link the video.
Nice vid I learn something.
andredw 5 months ago
i like his throws it sound like he says u cannot stop me! sit! LOL
kasumimoon1961 6 months ago
Much appreciation fir the video mate. Gouken is a great character when one knows these tricks. Keep up the brilliant work.
Almagest77 6 months ago
Thanks for the great video phunk. Ur always helping the Goukens out there. On a side note, how come we don't see your fight videos anymore? You're always entertaining to watch.
VaeVictus666 9 months ago
I can't believe I'm only seeing this now. Thanks for putting together a brilliant guide and for helping spread the good word. Rock on, phunkism.
Alivein85 9 months ago
@vib5252 battle time*
pharohnintey 1 year ago
@vib5252 battel time
pharohnintey 1 year ago
hmm, which dj pablo remix is this :)
care to share?
vib5252 1 year ago
great video alot of useful stuff here keep it up
Demonbry19 1 year ago
great video, as always!
thanks for your work phunk!
raunwynn 1 year ago 5
@raunwynn You're Welcome! Hope to hear your commentary matches again soon.
phunksim 1 year ago
So what I'm getting based off this (amazing!!) video is that jumping in is still very risky against the infamous wake up DP I try using his demon flip focus and it works fir the most part but kens freaking angle always screws it up any thoughts? Btw awesome music!!!!
pharohnintey 1 year ago
I'm feeling the Music
SeRiOuS1675 1 year ago
great vid, I always have problems with safe jump on Guile LK somersault, guess I am doing it too late. Gouken in AE is awesome you would love it, suggesting the cl.MP is +7 on hit since you can link a sweep very easily. Which means more setup for safe jumps, just need to know your next video of option selecting as a lot of people like to backdash during wakeup. It is important to shut them down.
viperRX 1 year ago
@viperRX I had some problems with the bread and butter demonflip safejump for a while. I found out though there were two timings you had to learn. Sweep from a ground combo eg backthrow j.mp, sweep and fireball fadc sweep. You actually have more to set up if its a hard knockdown when the opponent is in the air and I was either whiffing or doing it too late depending on the combo before it.
phunksim 1 year ago
thank u man always appreciated
dirtythirtypsn 1 year ago
thanks phunksim ill try this!
MrRIO1984 1 year ago
>swept by gouken
mrTKG09 1 year ago
i dont get the part on the sweep knockdown i try df kick and my shit gets stuffed always help please?
MrRIO1984 1 year ago
@MrRIO1984 safejump setups only work against 4 frame reversals so you won't be able to safejump Ryu or Ken's SRK (it's possible but you need an attack with a long attack reach that I haven't found with Gouken yet). You can safejump 4 frame reversals like Cammy or Dans SRK. After the sweep immediately do Demonflip flip and hit a kick button at the apex of the jump and it should work. I usually have a problem with doing it too early and whiff the opponent completely. Hope that helps.
phunksim 1 year ago
@phunksim Grab, dash hk demonflip and kick at the peak of the flip, isn't that a 3 frame safe jump? No one ever seems to shoryuken out of it. May be wrong though.
stiffler2100 1 year ago
@stiffler2100 Grab, dash, demonflip at best will be a 4 frame reversal safejump. If you do it early enough you will be able to land to block an SRK. It's more of baiting a 3 frame reversal as you won't actually hit your opponent. It's good to bait but if you don't put the opponent in blockstun they can just throw you.
phunksim 1 year ago
Name of song please? Great vid!
AbuseTheDream 1 year ago
Can you tell me the name of the song?
Thanks also for the videos of Gouken, are a great help^^
Sethrlion 1 year ago
Gouken is GOD!
Hero519 1 year ago
wow.. this is an incredible vid, it'd take me a while to figure all this out by myself =P
thanks so much!
tonaaaaay 1 year ago
name of the song please :D
salazar547 1 year ago
GREAT video
Gimpyfish62 1 year ago
excellent. I main gouken and I learned a little
zarakisan11 1 year ago
Great video on Gouken once again Phunkism. Do you, or anyone else, think he'll be better off with the change to his l.palm in SSF4AE?
Tuuvas 1 year ago
@Tuuvas Not just his palm, but everything they've done to him sounds like an incredible improvement in AE. I will miss old LP palm for sure though, but that and the backthrow nerf seem totally worth for all the other stuff he gets.
Souchan 1 year ago
@Tuuvas He'll definately be better off. cl.mp frame advantage is pretty huge. Finally gives gouken some real frame trap setups. His nerf to backthrow causing grey damage might take some enjoyment out of playing him. I enjoyed doing a lot of "fancy" things off it. We're all going to end up doing hk. tatsu now off of backthrow now. His lp.palm is a toss up. No risk pressure from up close, but his lp.palm in super had a lot of uses after the opponent blocking a fireball.
phunksim 1 year ago
Just what I needed! I know a few myself and I've mained Gouken since vanilla, but I'm not a stats person, so this is going to improve my game alot. Do you mind if I take a few of these set ups and put them on my overseer guide? Of course I'll give full credit and link the video.
stiffler2100 1 year ago
@stiffler2100 Go for it, thanks for asking.
phunksim 1 year ago
Thanks man !!
kalucardable 1 year ago