This is gonna be interesting...So, what did the woman with 5 husbands do? Well, I guess since the man she was with at the time that was not her husband was someone was sleeping with or in relationship? He did not tell her not to remarry, but can we infer that Yeshua did when she introduced him to the community? YHWH is sovereign. He also said He divorced Ysrael bc she whored after other gods. He took her back. What does that mean? Jeremiah 3:8
16 Jesus said to her, “Go, call your husband, and come here.”
17 The woman answered and said, “I have no husband.”
Jesus said to her, “You have well said, ‘I have no husband,’ 18 for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; in that you spoke truly.”
Jesus asked her to get her HUSBAND, but the woman admitted she didn't have a husband and Jesus said "THATS RIGHT CAUSE YOUR REAL HUSBAND ISN'T HERE THAT MAN ISN'T YOUR HUSBAND"
The woman didn't even acknowledge the man as her husband so why would you use that example to say remarriage and divorce is something God allows?
Jere 3:8 Explains that God allowed remarriage and divorce, not because the people wanted that, but so that He could use it to divorce Israel and marry the CHURCH
Matt 19:8 "Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."
@truthofgodbroadcast He took Ysrael back. Keep reading. No where in the scripture is there reference to His marrying the church in Jer 3:8. You do understand divorce is separation and not the abolishment/end/absolvement of a marriage, right? Show me one scripture where remarriage was allowed after a DIVORCE-it was allowed after the death of the spouse-not while the spouse lived. From the beginning, man only had ONE wife and divorce was not an option bc of the commandment of love.
Lets look at the word "Married". Go look up a definition of Married, notice most will refer to a actual marriage, however the last definition will say "closely or intimately united" OR "Closely connected; united."
Israel was the only country God specifically focused on (Old Testament), but after a while that message spread (New Testament Grace) when Israel rejected Jesus Christ's ways they made it official they were not of God.
God was telling them that they were very close, but let it be known in Ephesians 5:25-27; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:24; Revelation 19:7-9; Revelation 21:1-2... that the church is the bride and God is the bridegroom
Again if you just divorced your wife, that doesn't make anything that happen between you null and void, you are still "married" with her (as in close), but not married to her. Notice in Israel they consider us Goyims, and don't see us as brothers/sisters in God
@truthofgodbroadcast Forgive me-I C answer 2: u call urself Goyim. I am not a Goyim-I am an Israelitess. U r still married n YHWH's eyes-has nothing 2 do w/ proximity or even how u feel about another. That's why Paul understood being single and when Yeshua taught on divorce the men mentioned staying single bc divorce did not mean u no longer were considered married N YHWH's eyes. u were an adulterer/adulteress based on how Yeshua explained.
1st- The scripture you quoted was old testament which meant the bride (the church) wasn't established yet so thats why even though God divorced Israel he still made the declaration that he was still tied up with her... also why would you try to justify Israel in this verse when God is calling Israel a whore and adulterer?
2nd- REMEMBER in the Old testament divorce was allowed, it wasn't until Grace (New Testament) it was shut down permanently by Jesus Christ
@truthofgodbroadcast 1st-C this is Y it is fuitile to reason, oftentimes. I give u sound doctrine/scripture as reference and u want 2 toss it away bc it is in OT. Yeshua taught from OT (Torah) not the NT. Everything He did FULFILLED OT scripture about Him. Don't ever disregard OT as if it's been done away with, regardless who it references, it exists 4 a reason. U thoughth that by tossing in NT and grace it washed YHWH's Word. NOT! What u stated is not scripture but your or a pastor's opinion.
@lafathis Response to 1st ??? So you wanna live by OT rules? OK just to show you that NT overrules OT let me give you a few examples. According to OT: If you were caught working on the sabbath day you were killed on the spot Adlutery= killed on the spot Worshiping false idols= killed on the spot Gay= killed on the spot (think that should still stand) Must sacrifice an animal to God Most foods are unclean etc Are you doing all that? If not, are you cool with admitting fault and getting killed?
@truthofgodbroadcast We still live by OT laws when we BREAK them. Laws are for the LAWLESS. When was the last time u committed murder or stole something and was forgiven with a blood sacrifice? The LAW of blood SACRIFICE was replaced by Yeshua's blood. But we still must uphold the OT Laws. If u break any, U R then under the LAW. Remember how Yeshua admonished the elders for not continuing in the practices but covering them? He cited how children went unpunished (death) for dishonoring parents.
@truthofgodbroadcast Animal sacrifices are PROFANE to the Father now bc Yeshua is the ultimate sacrifice. If u die in ur sin, what happens? C U revert bac 2 the LAW when u sin and thus R judged according 2 it. NT does not license sin. It shows how u obtain mercy and grace under His blood, but u can still B condemned under the LAW for sin. If not, every1 could profess Yeshua and sin as much as they pleased. But U know it doesn't work this way. Righteous ppl do NOT sin N R not judged by the LAW.
@truthofgodbroadcast I'm OK understanding HOW the LAW was created for lawlessness N HOW righteousness does NOT sin therefore is not bound by LAW. w/ YHWH it's all abt choice that's Y we R told 2 choose LIFE. Wages of SIN R death. So, sin has a reward just as not sinning has rewards. U want 2 say u can't live a sin free life-Yeshua did it and He loves YHWH-if any1 say he loves the Father N doesnt keep His commandments is a liar. If u transgress His LAWs U SIN. Look it up! Repent-repent-repent!
@truthofgodbroadcast 2nd-I justified nothing-the Word justified itself. YHWH does reference Ysrael as such to explain why she was being divorced. Remember, Yeshua said from the beginning it was not so! Being as YHWH changes not, explain how it was "changed" to allow. (I already know the answer. But do U?) I'll help u out-they thought divorce "allowed" remarriage when it NEVER did-it was separation. Yeshua confirmed it & once they understood, it was diff 2 swallow they'd been mistaken.
Under OT divorce was allowed, Jesus explained that out of the hardness of the people's hearts Moses was forced to allow remarriage and divorce, of course God knowing all things knew this would happen and allowed Moses' law to stand, so if people got divorced and remarried they could cite Moses' law as the reason.
God then used the same law the people used to divorce Israel then Jesus came to correct the flaws in OT and one of the corrections was...
... the correction was NO REMARRIAGE AND DIVORCE... notice after the apostles hear this they were shocked, then when Jesus told them how married is supposed to be like the apostles said "Well it would be better if we did not marry", which show that it was wide spread knowledge at the time divorce and remarriage was allowed by Moses' law.
If what you said was the truth, then Jesus Christ would have call those people adulterers and sinners for remarrying a divorcing.
@truthofgodbroadcast He did call it adultery. That was the entire purpose of His explaining it to them. Show where remarrying was allowed if the first spouse was still alive. You can't. Divorce was allowed he never stated REMARRIAGE was allowed. That's the law they were breaking. The only REMARRIAGE was if first spouse died. Men were allowed more than 1 wife but women were not allowed more than one husband. YHWH even told David had he requested more wives, He would have given them to him.
Jesus Christ said it was adultery? Ok please show me the verse where Jesus said all those who remarried before he came on the scene to teach the people that "from the beginning it was not so"... tell me where he call those people adulterers... tell me why King Solomon was called a adulterer, or where Abraham was called a adulterer, or where David was called a adulterer.
Show me where Jesus rebuked them. NO, those men of God were under the law of Moses that permitted that
@truthofgodbroadcast Matt 5:27-28; 31-32; Matt 19:3-12; now read Matt 19:16-26 meat at verses 17 N 18 abt keeping the commandments. C, they were NEVER done away w! Even though He didnt mention adultery it 's commandment. He explained acts constituting adultery whereby they were astonished. I never said those men committed adultery. Show me what laws gave grounds for divorce and remarrige after the divorce in OT. David DID commit adultery but having more than 1 wife was not his act of adultery.
@truthofgodbroadcast Yeshua NEVER said REMARRIAGE was allowed ONLY DIVORCE-SEPARATION. Men and women remarrying were sinning IF the spouse was alive still. If the spouse died while divorced, they could REMARRY but NOT while the spouse was alive. KEY: DIVORCE had 2 occur for adultery 2 exist N marrige or if sex was conducted w any1 otr than spouse. It's PUTTING AWAY that structured what was lawful or adultery N a divorce. A man marrying more than 1 wife was legit bc there was no divorce nvolved.
Remarriage is called adultery right, because in Gods eyes you are still married... right?
So its safe to say remarriage is just a nice word for adultery according to scriptures, because according to scriptures if a married person get with/has sex/kisses/lust after someone else; they are considered an adulterer.
SO AGAIN I ask why didn't Jesus say Abraham, David, Solomon, etc were adulterers... why didn't He say Moses law was false and we were disobeying God the whole time?
@truthofgodbroadcast 1-I nvr called Abraham or Solomon an adulterer 2-David DID commit adultery 3-I alrdy stated men were allowed 2 have > 1 wife but could not put her away N marry another N her place unless (we're dealing w a sgl wife) she had premarital sex, she was divorced N her 1st spouse was alive, she was a non-blver, or she had sex during her marriage. Otherwise, his acts were illegal. Show me where Any of them ever DIVORCED a wife cause I never read it. Thre4 they wer not ADULTERERs
When the apostles heard what Jesus said they said "Better we not get married" obviously their was a difference between OT marriage rules and NT marriage rules.
Matt 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to PUT HER AWAY?
We can safely assume someone was putting someone away at that time, and AGAIN Jesus Christ did not condemn those people because it was allowed at that time
@truthofgodbroadcast They were asking about putting away for EVERY CAUSE no U couldn't put away 4 EVERY CAUSE-except infedelity. I cant explin N this little space. U have 2 read OT and NT-it says same Deut 24:1-4. There's much 2 know abt the LAWS and not enuf 2 type 2 hlp u understand.Yes infedelity. Fornication is porneias or prostitution in NT. just can't put it all in this so I ask the Holy Spirit 2 open ur understanding.
Strange you mention Deut 24, it specifically states "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes"
Isn't that how all divorces are done?
When one party doesn't like the other anymore?
As a matter of fact this lines up perfectly with what God done to Israel, God called Israel a whore... if that doesn't mean "lost favor" I don't know what is.
Sis you just dug your argument into a hole, maybe you should re-read Deut 24: 1-4 again
@truthofgodbroadcast U obv dont even know the context of that scripture. U can only divorce for SPECIFIC cause NOT EVERY. U need 2 read further-there's reason she lost favor nt bc he woke 1day out of luv w his wife-she did smthng. thats why she was called unclean. u cnt stop there. Deut 22:16-19. This hate is emotional & u canot put away 4 emotion w/o marrital violation-the bed. Deut 24 his emotion's based on her uncleaness-she violated the marriage & he is alwd under law 2 divorce her.
@lafathis I'm glad you brought that up because it AGAIN give clear JUSTIFICATION on why God divorced Israel.. everything you said backs that up.
So again I have to ask why are you bringing me Scriptures that agree with my argument? God divorced Israel and married the Church because Israel LOST FAVOR in God's eyes. AGAIN according to YOUR WORDS you said
"U need 2 read further-there's reason she LOST FAVOR nt bc he woke 1day out of luv w his wife-she DID SMTHNG. thats why she was called UNCLEAN"
@truthofgodbroadcast If the preacher baptized me in the name of the lord "Jesus Chris" and forgot to pronounce the "t" at the end of Christ, am I baptized properly? Please someone help me.
You should be fine. God is the Knower of all things. As long as that preacher wasn't baptizing you in the name of another god named Jesus Chris then you should be fine.
Not having perfect grammar isn't gonna mess up your baptism. For example when you pray and you mispronounce a word, that doesn't cause God not to understand for God is the Knower of all things
@truthofgodbroadcast But what if the peacher baptized me in the titles father son holy ghost? Will God understand and show me compassion and not send me to hell?
If you didn't know. then I don't believe you well be sent to hell.
But if you knew and rejected, then you have to answer to God for that. Because you know have that knowledge, you have to get baptized right. Call First Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ (Pastor Jennings church) and ask where you can get a proper baptism. Pastor Gino says even if its for one person he would send people to baptize you.
Lord is not a name but a title, Jesus is the name with the power, im not against in people baptizing in the name Lord Jesus,But for him to say baptizing in the name of Jesus is not valid has to be wrong and has to be legalistic.
Again, there was more then one person named Jesus in the Scriptures, one of them was even a false prophet. We are to do as the Scriptures say and give due honor to Jesus Christ when baptizing.
So what your trying to say that the all knowing God who knows our thoughts might get confuse who we are referring to when we use the name of Jesus.
When people were possessed they used the NAME OF JESUS to take those demands out because there is power just in that name.
When Paul used the name of Jesus alone to take out demons he knew he wasnt speaking about his neighbor jesus but His God Jesus. God knows who we are referring to, He knows our thoughts.
No it has nothing to do with confusion. Notice people don't have a issue calling their boss Mister, or Sir.... but they don't want to call Jesus Christ name in the proper way during baptism.
Possession and baptism are 2 completely different things, when one is possessed you don't put them down in water, so why compare the 2?
Its true God knows all our thoughts, but at the same time He has rules we must obey. This sounds like the "God knows my heart so I can do what I want" excuse
You have to compare different things in order to prove something.The proper name for Jesus is Jesus which means God is salvation so by that name we are going to be saved and for teachers to be condemning others for using that name when baptizing should be very careful.
Jesus is the most powerful name in this whole universe and for u to say our baptism is not valid because we forgot the title Christ is just legalistic and you are missing the point.
How are you going to accuse me of comparing 2 different things when YOUR the one who brought up Paul taking out demons?
We must worship as the Scriptures instructed us to. Remember Moses, God told him to speak to the rock, but Moses ended up hitting it and that cost him not to be able to lay foot in the land of milk and honey, you might say "Well thats legalistic why would Moses be denied entry just for that".... NO its God's way, and its His way we must follow.
Does God permit lying or you reading my text wrong, i havent accuse you of anything.
Peter said to be baptize in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, so after he says name he says of our Lord Jesus Christ, so in reality you should be baptizing " in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ" exactly in that order, if you dont than your not fallowing the bible.
Notice the Scripture said in the name of OUR LORD Jesus Christ. Lord is a title, its not a name it itself unless its followed by a name, hence Lord Jesus... when you say that you make it clear. Jesus Christ also makes it clear who's name you are baptizing in.
Notice if I see a cop with 20 other cops, but I only want his attention I won't just say "officer" because thats just a title... however if I say "Officer Brown" then I make it clear who I'm calling
I can't give "my option" I have to refer to what the Scriptures say.... don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to put people down or condemn them. But I can't tell you something that the Scriptures don't back.
The Scriptures tells us how we must function because the is the Word of God. If I started saying "Well in my opinion..." it would be null and void because I can't put you in Heaven, only God can and the only way to get to Heaven is to obey His Word.
Lord has no power, Christ has no power, JESUS the most powerful NAME in the universe.The title and attribute is fine to baptize with because theres a connection to Jesus as long as you include the Name. You are minimizing the name of Jesus by you saying you HAVE TO include an attribute or title to His name. The name of Jesus doesnt need anything to make His name greater or more powerful.
Yourwrong, was it not you who shown me the verse that said IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST?
Lord is indeed a title, that shows proper respect and honor to who we are talking about. Christ lets it be known we are talking about a higher power, since even in the Scriptures we seen men(even false prophets) with the name Jesus.
Notice the only time you are instructed to use Lord Jesus, or Jesus Christ is in baptism... why do you kick against the prick?
I said LORD JESUS CHRIST to try to prove a point to you, when peter says after NAME, he says "LORD JESUS CHRIST" but you guys only use christ which is an attribute, your the one saying word for word and if you go word for word than according to you, you have to baptize in the name of our "LORD JESUS CHRIST" exactly like that.
Jesus commanded, FATHER,SON,HOLY SPIRIT, i know it is Jesus but if you go word for word than you have to baptize what Jesus commanded, word for word.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:5
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Find me ANYWHERE in the Scriptures where they just said "Jesus" when baptizing, notice every time its done, its Lord Jesus or Jesus Christ.
@truthofgodbroadcast Okay, this question is about women preachers. There are many truly saved, holy ghost filled water baptized in Jesus name, living a holy anointed life speaking in true tongues women preachers through out the years that have genuinely and truly lead people to Christ. Are these women doing God's work? Are the people who were brought to God by her labor truly saved?
We see in 1 Tim 2 8-15 it states what women are allowed to do, then states why they aren't permitted to preach/teach. Understand God gives all of us our perspective roles that we must follow.
You brought up woman leading people to.... I suggest you watch part 4 of our my videos called "Pastor Gino Members Speak Out 4" listen to the former woman preacher say why she stopped preaching.
@truthofgodbroadcast So u r stating ever person u ever had sex w/ u r married 2? (If so, what then is fornication? I know the answer 2 both, by the way.) Be careful when answering this bc u will have ppl believing the 1st person they had sex w/ is their spouse and the majority of ppl r adulterers who "married" by land's law. Many ppl will go 2 hell based on your theory. U can have a "married" business partnership, etc. That's the meaning of your last definition.
@truthofgodbroadcast I C U conform scripture to meet your liking. Yeshua warned against this. Every scripture u responded 2-if u responded-u circumvented what was stated, rather u interpreted as u saw fit. Again, u did not answer my previous question about divorce-u came back about marriage. Stay on topic and focus. A woman cannot b married 2 more than 1 man simultaneously-she'd b an adulteress. A man would b an adulterer by putting away his wife or sleeping w another woman who wasn't his wife.
@truthofgodbroadcast 1-she spoke w/ Yeshua and they talked about her life-not just her marriages; He knew things about her w/o her telling Him and she perceived Him as a prophet.. 2-no1 knows the relationship w/the "man"/she did not call the man a husband. 3-Yeshua did not call her an adulteress, so the 5 husbands had to have all been dead and she may have begun a new relationship leading to a sixth-that's why she had none at the time. 4-divorce is separation not abosolvement/end of marriage.
Yeshua never made statements against women teachers and the men and women were in Ysrael in their positions-had they not been, we would have been told this-as we were before being dispersed. So no woman can interpret scripture? How will she know the truth? And you did not hear about homosexual acts in the new testament but I know they happened. You didn't hear about abortions, but they occur today. If it's not stated, it does not mean it is wrong. There is no commandment against women preachers.
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Bro why are you trying to twist scripture? You basically saying you support women preachers, and used dictionaries and other false prophets personal views to prove your "point"
God said he is a God THAT CHANGE NOT, so why are you saying he would make "special exceptions"? Special exceptions to disobey? The scriptures make it clear a woman cannot teach scripture but KEEP SILENT.
For a man to preach THE WORD OF GOD he must be teaching the people what God wants then to learn. If that man isn't going to teach what God whats the people to learn, then he is not preaching God's Word but is just doing some motivational speaking. You cannot preach unless you teach God's Word.
4 Example lets say a woman is preaching but not teaching... that means she can't use scripture, nor can she answer questions so what is she going to teach?
You said "Personally, I do not find it weird or strange if women preach or Teach one another, because this is Scriptural according to Titus 2:3-5"
According to scripture Titus 2:3-5 is telling the mother (older women) to teach the young women how to be decent respectful women that obey her husband and loves her kids. NO WHERE in that verse does it talk about scriptures being teached or preached.. ALSO NOTE the teaching in Titus is not happening IN A CHURCH
@chevypp First, dont insult, scholars and commentators, who you may not know anything about, do your research before you get all emotional about things. Logic is of God and for us to have a logical convo lets remember to be sensitive bro. If you look at my argument, you would find out i present both views, and say God is beyond all things and can certainly do things which we may not understand and yet be perfectly just in God, secondly, my argument is balanced
I don't know these "scholars or commentators" but I do remember Paul saying
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Logic is for people trying to twist scripture, one of your "scholars" even said the scriptures are not right and you have to REMOVE 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 for it to make sense!!!. Your scholars are not God taught so therefore they speak what they do not know
Your scholars are just a bunch of men that twisted scripture, none of them are God called or God sent, for example 1 Cor 14:34-35 make perfect sense with 1 Cor 11:5
1 Cor 14:34-35 speaks of women NOT speaking and preaching in the church... however women were permitted to be a prophesier, because a prophesier was just someone foretelling a event that was going to come, but she wasn't teaching scripture or preaching.
Your scholars are NOT God called, God will never "logically" tell you to sin
@chevypp Just like i expected, someone who does not read or study but just proclaims there own belief. Sadly the scholars and theologians are they that make sense of sticky situations, without them what we are reading we would not understand or could even be read or translated. Surly there are flaws in your thinking and you may need to be open minded about others. I have presented a fair and objective view and you have not refuted or show me my folly. So i am justified and true in my conclusion
@chevypp Logically speaking and theologically if God was to command you to do something, and you refuse to do it because of previous revelation or etc then you are actually disobeying God. SO if a woman was told of God to speak or preach or teach and she refuses then she has disobeyed God. Revelation is progressive in any period and i dont think it has changed, but we have the bible to confirm and if necessary condemn other Doctrines, or the bible is the final authority in matters.
God will never tell someone to do something he himself commanded you not to do, NEVER happened in the scriptures before and never will. God will never call a woman cause multiple times He said and explained why women should not be teaching, or preaching to men. God made it clear that the woman was the weaker vessel, and stated in was Eve and not Adam who was deceived.
People love to say "God told them to..." even when it was written long ago "THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN
and not from Paul. They conclude that someone sharing the views expressed in 1 Timothy added these words to ban women’s participation in mixed assemblies. MacArthur, John: 1 Timothy. Chicago : Moody Press, 1995, S. 86 Geneva Bible Notes (1599). Bellingham, WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2003, S. 1 Ti 2:12
3MacDonald, William ; Farstad, Arthur: Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and
the plural “in the churches”; the appeal to the law in the absolute sense without quoting or referring to a specific passage; and the appeal to shame as a general cultural matter (as opposed to shaming the spouse [11:5]). Others posit that the language reflects that of 1 Tim. 2:11–12, which is assumed to derive from a later time
The topic of women’s silence in the church also does not seem to fit the context, which refers to controlling manifestations of the Spirit in worship. Fee (1994: 280) argues that verses 34–35 have nothing to do with tongues, prophecy, or the Spirit and simply demand of women unqualified silence in the churches. Fee thinks that they were inserted here because of their catchword relation to silence. Fee (1994: 279) also claims that these verses contain linguistic aberrations: the use of
Surly if the man takes His rightful position, there would not be any need for a woman to want a teaching position.
Likewise 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is straight forward but these are very controversial, according to Garland, (2003) :
The intrinsic evidence for the original absence of 14:34–35 from the text is a bit stronger. . Removing these verses from the text solves the problem of its apparent contradiction with 11:5.
Though these can be ruled out as special circumstances etc, it is always a possibility that God who is the Makers of Law and Rulers of All, can make exceptions and make it possible. It may not be the general but it may be In few cases. This does not mean I am in agreement with all the Women Teachers, but I believe God has called some due to the slumbering of the Men in these last times to awaken them into positions.
church.” Also the Geneva Bible Notes (1599). states that “The first argument, why it is not lawful for women to teach in the congregation, because by this means they would be placed above men, for they would be their masters: and this is against God’s ordinance.
”But it does not exclude Preaching and teaching to the Young and the young women. I would also draw from cases such as Deborah (Judges 4:4) and others that they were used to teach and operate in the office of authority.
teaching. Priscilla and Aquila both instructed Apollos (Acts 18:26), but in private and not in the worship of the church.
Just to conclude I Believe Women are not to teach publicly to the church, according to the 3MacDonald et al (1997) it stated “When Paul says: I do not permit a woman to teach, he is speaking as inspired of God. This does not represent Paul’s own personal prejudice, as some say. It is God who decrees that women should not have a public teaching ministry in the chur
the meanings by mistake or lack of researching. Which is understandable or he is being fallacious with the Scriptures and pushing forth His doctrines, either off, he will have to change His Position, based solely on 1 Tim 2:8-14. Personally, I do not find it weird or strange if women preach or Teach one another, because this is Scriptural according to Titus 2:3-5. But also according to MacArthur (1995), He stated that 1 Tim 2:8-14 “… does not entirely rule out women
According to Merriam Webster definition of teaching and preaching it is clear both mean different things. And though a woman is exempted from Teaching Doctrines or instructing she can actually preach. The bible does not forbid women to preach. Also the Greek words for teaching/teacher and preaching/preacher are total different, so we are rest assure this is not a play of words or a straining of definitions
In teaching I understand, one can “show or instruct” another new things, but the real undertaking of teaching is to Educate. And it was a cultural issue for a woman to teach a man or a congregation full of men. But in this culture, we do not have this issue and thus we should revise and understand what it really means in modern terms. But I am not saying change scripture.
The topic in discussion is whether a woman should Preach, to preach is:, to proclaim,
er, conduct one’s self as a teacher. 2 to teach one. 2A to impart instruction. 2B instill doctrine into one. 2C the thing taught or enjoined. 2D to explain or expound a thing. 2F to teach one something.)
Clearly, From 1 Tim 2:12 I can see a woman is not to hold the office of Teaching or be a Teacher of the word, but that’s all it declares in the verse.
The church is blessed with the Five-Fold ministry and apart from teaching the woman can hold other positions if she wills.
1 Tim 2:12 “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. ” It is clear she should not exercise authority over the man in the office of the church and she should not instruct or teach doctrine in the Church, also the word (διδάσκω [didasko /did•as•ko/] can mean ‘to hold discourse with others in order to instruct them, deliver didactic discourses. 1B to be a teacher. 1C to discharge the office of a teach
"There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk after the flesh but after the Spirit" (Rom8:1). Christianity is the newness of life in Christ Jesus, and it functions only in the Spirit. Flesh cannot fake it. " so then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. But you are not in the Flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." (Rom8:8-9)
By starting a new church you solve no problem, even in your church with men and women separated, there still many who are not holy in the sight of God. we fighting each other only promotes the work of the devil. we will destroy each other without the devil as much as lift up a finger " But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by by one another!" (Gal5:15) .Christianity is life in the Spirit
Our Lord Jesus Christ said " As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. therefore be zealous and repent." (Rev3:19). If you truely love the church of Christ I believe you would have taken a different strategy. Starting a church to compete with others solves no problem it only amplifies it and that is just what the devil desires. when there are many churches people get confused, no one knows which is the true one or the false one so they decide to remain unbelievers.
If God reveals things to you, it is for the welfare of every member of the body of Christ. no one has the totality of Knowledge of God. Jesus Chist cared about the false teacher Jezebel ( Rev2:20-23) so much so that he gave her time to repent and even warned her through the apostle John. yes there are many pastors teaching and preaching false doctrines, I believe it is ur responsibility to rebuke, reprove and warn them about their doctrines .
He condemns what other preachers practice which he believes are not Scripturally acceptable, yet he uses his own 'sound judgement' to separate women from men and he thinks it is good in the sight of God. I am not condemning nor approving the practice, what i simply mean is "knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks He knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know" (1Cor8:1-2). again "For we know in part and we we prophesy in part." (1Cor13:9).
If women dress formally at your church why are separating them. Where in the bible do it say specifically separate the men and women.It tells them to be silent in the church but church was out of order back then and now too! As much as I like your teachings yes I said I like your teachings you are becoming Lifted up with Pride and I dare anybody on you-tube to challenge this. Jesus the expressed image of God fullness bodily is what the whole Bible is about.
The spirit is all over me now bring me to your church oh I forgot it's not your church pastor Jennings. I'm not a scholar or pastor yet but you need to talk about Jesus Christ more. It's by grace and grace alone that we Christians are saved.Jesus the son of the living MOST HIGH done it all at the cross. It should be structure in the church. But you are on a power Men can sit with there wife because they might not focus on God or do you mean you pastor Jennings.
So last but not least If for odd reason pastor Jennings wife left him I bet you see a new outcome.Now I'm not married yet and i have never been married. But I wouldn't go on the rest of my life hurting or masturbating cause somebody told me I was going to heel behind it God and him only makes that decision.In the old testament King David sleep with another man wife, married her and had the husband killed on the front line of war while she was pregnant and he was after God own heart!!!!!!
Now Jesus did say he's coming not to destroy the laws but to fulfill them right! So if my wife or husband decides to leave me behind adultery or spiritual desertion of God or just don't want to be with me. Paul said it's better to marry then to burn. And that's with fleshly desires or fornication cause it's in our nature for man and woman only!! to be together.So if she's leaves and don't come back I'm I suppose to masturbate the rest of my life. No cause that's unholy too!!
@dukebob I wish on this one subject alone he would call me there. Let's read Romans Ch.7 vs. 4-6, wherefore, my brethren,ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ ;that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
ACTS 2:38! its plain and simple! , Gino made a comment about the UPC, which i am. what about your spouse commits adultery, leaves you for another... do u stay married? what if that spouse divorces you?
oh i miss that old time religion. uno no si church now adays a papi show thing. this man come fi preach di truth weda uno like it r not and jesus did have alot of haters even till now so a no nutin if uno hate him, jesus love him
uno just cant handle di truth, this preacha naah beg nuh friend like some a di preacha dem weh fraid fi preach di truth cause dem no waa lose members. some a di preacha dem change dem message cause dem wife nuh like it dem change it fi please dem wife. dem bed get cold now....lol.. talk di things dem pastor jennings..
@yourclassmate100 Read your bible correctly.. what Kind of women was Paul talking about? he was talking about women who were out of line and order causing confusion!! Paul himself had women preachers with him!!! lol theres women preachers all through the bible and women leaders!!! The bible said let everything that hath breath Praise the Lord... how can that happen when they are "silent" in the church?? lol rightly divided the word of truth!!
lol, please, its a translation, but the name is still the same, look at all the names in the scriptures, you think names like John, Peter, Moses, David, etc were pronounced like that in their time/country, NO
But in order for our tongues to understand, the language must be changed so we can understand, for example there is no "J"s in Arabic, so it sounds like "HA-SU-ah" they are talking about the same Jesus, So follow Jesus' Word, or Yeshua will send you to hell
I will have to state that a woman preaching is not sin, we know what sin is according to James 1, however sin is the transgression of God's Word (written or spoken). For example if the Spirit of God didnt led Pastor Gino and He didnt Go to this interview without the Spirit permission He would Have sinned.
..from her. This is where the saying comes from, which says the children are at their mothers feet.
7.Fatherhood and Motherhood are taught by Parents and children learn it to become a new family.
This is the order God establish the Family unit and even though its not perfect nowadays, a successful family unit whether consciously or unconsciously will fall in to this pattern. I think Pastor Gino views are quite strong and may need to explain more to aid understanding
In fact Eve was tricked in the serpent speech. It is was not eve's fault Adam messed up by failing to translate the instruction, this is the first display of why God formed/created Man and Woman. The Man is meant to be in a place where He knows God and Then Find His Wife. This is usually the best situation. To be really Honest if the Man gets it right with God the woman will be happy being a Helper, Sustainer and a builder. Basically the Proverb 31 woman. This was the order God set things......
I dont think anywhere in the bible forbid women not to preacher, God can use any willing vessle be it Men or Women, however God would prefer to use a man, because this is the reason He created him first to represent God on earth. The woman was pull out of a man and therefore her substanance is from the man, and not God. This is why satan beguiled Eve because she lack the direct commands and instruction given to Adam from God.
@truckindon71 Thanks for the tips, i have done some research and shall post them to you on your inbox, kind regards, and if any one else is interested. Let me know and i will make it available to You. The Research is based on, whether Women should preach, the results are shocking
If Peter was Wrong in Acts 2:38 why didnt thee Other Apostles Correct Him & say "LORD JESUS"??? What was the Greatest Message. was it by a Man or Women??? Title of the Message "He Has Risen" hint it wasnt from a Man!!
lol, I guess your trying to say women can preach, Mary didn't start preaching she was told by Jesus to tell the other Apostles that He has risen; she didn't go out on the streets preaching, or get into deep revelations about anything, just to tell the Apostles "I have risen", if that was Mary preaching then how come she only did it one time? Cause she wasn't preaching just passing info along from Jesus that he has risen
@truthofgodbroadcast Where in the Bible does it say they "CANT" PREACH... Show Me that in the Bible. To Answer Your Question Sir That same message that was Preached & Sent to the Apostles was Told a few times but yet them Boys didnt Pay attention. Maybe because they was to busy stuck in their Traditon & Dogma & look at the outward apperance & missed the God Given Thus saith the Lord Message. sad that Jesus had to appear unto them so that they can believe...
sorry I don't log into this account often, first time seeing your post... first off if women were to preach God would have called a woman to preach and expound the ways of God... but that has NEVER happen from Genesis to Revelations.
Look all thru old testament , NO WOMEN PREACHERS... Jesus Christ came, and set straight a lot of things (divorce, sabbath, etc) but never did He change the standard of women preaching, which meant it was a law God meant for the people to follow
@truthofgodbroadcast its all good... we get busy at times... I hear what your saying but When we search the scriptures & we truly get down in Gods word we must Understand the Nature of God. Jesus is not a sexist nor is the Gospel of Jesus Christ Gender Driven. In Joel & in Acts, in the Last Days he will pour out his spirit upon all Flesh, Sons & Daughters shall Prophesy. We must understand that God uses who he wants. In The Old Testament God placed Deborah to be a Ruler, a Judge...
@truthofgodbroadcast & Do you serve a God that is in a Box?? Because the God i Serve Lord Jesus Christ, he uses who ever he please because Hes God not you or me!! Who are we to say who God can and can't use for the Glory and thee advancement of the Kingdom of God???... He used a Donkey to speak a Word to Balam lol The Gospel is Not Gender driven nor does it care about your Color or your age!!! This is a Whosoever Will.... We as a ppl must do better. i love yall im praying for yall
No God isn't in a box.. you know what else God isn't he isn't a God that changes either
Scriptures plainly say no women preachers, this is supported because you don't see any women preaching... you see women prophesize, but not go out and preach
I heard all the excuses for women preachers (Pricilla and Aquilla, Mary saying Jesus rose, the donkey, etc) and I prove all of those stories had nothing to do with women preaching, Show me in the bible where it says "WHOEVER WILL"?!?!
@truthofgodbroadcast Show Me in the Bible where it says WOMEN CANT PREACH.... thats all i want to see. Show me where it says "Thus Saith the Lord"
& What were Pricilla & Aquilla? & what Apostle, Disciple were they with?
where is the Gender in this text
& he gave some, apostles; & some, prophets; & some evangelists; & some, pastors & teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ . Till we all come in the unity of the faith"
AH YES the Pricilla and Aquilla story... well first off, it was a man AND woman that were always mentioned, not just the women
Second if we read the story of P&A notice Paul who said to ordain in every city NEVER ordained P or A, but called them his "helpers" cause they were fellow tent makers The confusion about P&A starts with Apollos, they say that Pricilla and Aquilla taught Apollos about God but... CONTINUE TO PART 2
24 Now a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man and MIGHTY in the Scriptures, came to Ephesus.
25 This man had been instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in spirit, he spoke and taught ACCURATELY the things of the Lord, though he knew only the baptism of John.
Tell me, what were P&A gonna teach a man when the bible itself admits this man knows DEEP things in Scriptures
26 So he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Aquila and Priscilla heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately.
OOPS, now there is when women ran off thinking they can preach... but hold on, notice they didn't pull him aside till he began to speak BOLDLY... why was that?
Cause P&A saw that he was right in what he was saying, but his approch and delivery wasn't God's way
@truthofgodbroadcast Apollos a Man who had a Zeal for God, who spoke Bodly nothing wrong with that, but he was a novice, he didnt have enough Word or Knowledge in him. But it took P&A to teach this Man the way of God Jesus Christ More Perfectly. KJ Version said that they "Taught" If he had enough knowledge of the word There would be no need for P&A to pull him to the side. Correct??
Apollos approach was direct and hard, even says that in Acts 18-28
"for he VIGOROUSLY refuted the Jews publicly, showing from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ"
P&A saw that this wasn't the way to win souls for Christ by slamming the Jews, but he had to be more Christ like... basically his words were good and knowledge sharp, but his delivery was not Christ like.
But notice they didn't preach and spread anything, just reminding Apollos of God's ways
@truthofgodbroadcast we must notice & understand that these women had a relationship with the Lord 1st. They Followed the Man of God... Paul left P&A Because he knew they have the truth. Apollos was speaking but because they knew the Truth, they sat him down & Taught this Man the way of God more Perfectly. How can Women Tell or show a "Man" a more Perfect way in God? Its simple when you are in truth & know Gods Word & have the Holy Ghost God gives you Apostolic Authority to do so.
@moneygreen3 Preaching Teaching, Speaking Thus Saith the Lord doesnt have a Gender... Scripture tells us "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;" no where was gender mention. scripture said God gave some..... when it comes to "Bishops" Gender was Mention.. & all i ask i want to see is where Women "Cant Preach" just show me that scripture... & I RESPECT THE LOVE & THE GRACE COMING FROM YOU.
I am so glad I have a bible salvation. Pastor Jennings I pray and I believe that you will continue to stand strong and continue to preach the word of God in it's fullness.
@MCPHERSL45CAL minor correction when you Talking about Jesus Christ or Lord Jesus Christ God Almighty you might want to put a Captial G when you are referring to the True & Living God. Peace
@ 6:56 he says that "most" couples get married with a prenuptial agreement. that is so stupid. the vast majority of all people do not do that, especially church people.
Ok, what does it say in Matthew 28:18-20? Somebody please type it in on this Video! Let's do some homework people and don't let Gino Jennings or any other person on this earth be your personal holy spirit! God can speak to us all and He will show us the true way! Go to a Bible teaching church and follow the sciptures. If you like Gino Jennings go there but don't let him tell you that the Bible says that we aren't to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and of the Holy Ghost!
@440plus6 The name of the Father and of the Son and of the HolyGhost is (Jesus Christ!)(Acts 2:38) fulfills( mathew 28:19 )in mathew, Jesus Christ was giving the commandment to the deciples/apostles.When their understanding was opened( Luke 24:44-49)they knew what name Jesus spoke of..(Acts 19:1-6)the apostle Paul Baptized some of Johns converts ..so we see hear according to scripture the name of the Father ,Son and HolyGhost is Jesus!
Its people like you who say "ignore the bible just follow what feels go to you and God will allow it"
Its a shame you don't have any scriptures to counter what was said, you just said "well this man sounds right, but I don't want to give up MY lifestyle so I'm just gonna say trust yourself and do what YOU think is good"
Also the bible said in THE NAME (singular) that means ONE, not names NAME
@truthofgodbroadcast Thank you for posting this because their are so many ignorant christians out there who can't read and in addition the disciples were baptized in the name of the lord Jesus Christ. God bless
@Loubanga83....Gino isnt telling you own "his" own authority what to be baptize in,the SCRIPTURES CLEARLY says,"baptize in the "NAME" of the father,son,&holy ghost. The "NAME" of the father,son,&holy ghost is JESUS CHRIST!! Father,son,&H.G. are "TITLES"!!! Jesus said "NAME"!!! Im a father,son,& a husband,but I have a NAME and its not father,son,nor husband. Those are TITLES that I inherit. 3 TITLES under "ONE NAME". You're not comprehending that one word,"NAME."
You see this...Now I want people to notice how much of a FOOL Tony smith is. The only one who follows him are those within his goofy ghetto gossip- spineless church. This guy is still trying to down talk Gino with heresay. WHAT A JOKE. What is he? A little loud mouth gossiping school girl is what he is. He's just trying to compesate for being a coward and not answering to the challenge that Gino gave. This is how you conduct yourself tony! Take notes you FOOL!
I was married before I came into the Church. I filed for divorce from my ex wife because she left me for another man. Years later, when I did come into the Church I received the Holy Ghost, and eventually married my current wife, with the blessing and prayer of our pastor. I wondered, after I heard Pastor Jennings preach on this topic, if I was going to spend eternity in hell for my decision.
@blissJesus....Yes you will go to hell if you continue to stay in your 2nd marriage. The Most High DO NOT HONOR that 2nd marriage you're in. You say you recieve the H.G. now allow the H.G to guide you out of that 2nd marriage. Your 1st wife left,Im sorry,but as long as she lives she IS "YOUR WIFE". That's why when Jesus broke the marriage subject the apostles said,"it's NOT GOOD to marry". Why they said that? Jesus made it clear: two is now ONE FLESH!! Brother,you're BOUND to your 1st wife!!!!
@blissJesus(pt1)..No sir,"except it be for FORNICATION." Let me explain it. You're married,right? A married person cant commit fornication,but adultery cause that the state,WHEN YOU'RE MARRIED. When you're not married,that's fornication. In Matt.19 Jesus was dealing with the issue of divorce. The Pharisees was trying to test him on that issue and asked him can you "put away"(divorce) the wife 4 every cause(any reason)v.3? Jesus gave them the understanding of "NO" cause he said that man leave
Well, I guess it's gonna be hell for me cause not only would our children grow up in a broken home, the choice has alresdy been made. Say high to Jesus for this wretch. Peace
@blissJesus You are wrong still but consult God and allow him to lead you and make the decisions for you. I strongly recommend that you go and repent also. God bless
@BlissJesus(pt2)..father&mother and CLEAVE to his wife and they TWO shall be "ONE" FLESH(v5)? See,He's breaking down the nature of NO DIVORCE cause he went own to say in v6 that you're NOT TWO no more,but ONE FLESH and what God joined together,let NO MAN put ASUNDER. Your wife CANNOT put ASUNDER in your marriage;no matter what she does. You and her are ONE,BOTTOM LINE. Then at v.7,they wanted to know why Moses commanded a bill of divorce cause when you do that,you're breaking up the ONE and
@BlissJesus(pt3)...going back to the TWO. Jesus said,"Moses,"that's the KEY WORD,MOSES,b/c of the hardness of your heart,"SUFFERED"(allowed) you but from the BEGINNING it was NOT SO. You see,Moses allowed it cause Jesus said from the BEGINNING it WASNT SO. If something WASNT SO,that means it WAS NOT MEANT TO BE!! Now the Master teacher said,"I say unto you whosoever put away his wife,"EXCEPT IT BE FOR FORNICATION & marry another commit adultery. Let me explain that. In Matt.1:18 it says Mary was
@BlissJesus(pt4).."ESPOUSED"(engaged)to Joseph. They was NOT MARRIED,but ONLY ENGAGED,but read further in v.19,it says Joseph her "HUSBAND wanted to put her away" cause he thought she cheated on him,but when the angel came and told him the deal,the angel said in v.20,"fear not to take unto thee Mary thy "WIFE"!!! You understand now?? They were ONLY ENGAGED,"BUT" had the "TITLE" of the matter,MARRIGE. That's what Jesus was saying,"EXCEPT it be for FORNICATION". That's when you can leave if she
@BlissJesus(pt5)...cheated on you "WHILE" you all were "ONLY" ENGAGED,but when you went b4 The Master & said your vows,YOU'RE STUCK,BROTHER!!! Look at Eccles.5:4,"when thou VOWEST a VOW unto God,defer NOT to PAY IT. V.5,"better is it that thou SHOULD NOT VOW,than that thou SHOULD VOW and NOT PAY." Brother,you MUST and WILL respect God's Word if you planned on entering His Kingdom. I'm truly sorry about your situation,but God has spoken and this goes for every married man,including myself.
why is it so heard for pepole to want to see the true! sin do you get it.
sonnialee 4 months ago
This is gonna be interesting...So, what did the woman with 5 husbands do? Well, I guess since the man she was with at the time that was not her husband was someone was sleeping with or in relationship? He did not tell her not to remarry, but can we infer that Yeshua did when she introduced him to the community? YHWH is sovereign. He also said He divorced Ysrael bc she whored after other gods. He took her back. What does that mean? Jeremiah 3:8
lafathis 8 months ago
@lafathis
PART 1
John 4 16-18
16 Jesus said to her, “Go, call your husband, and come here.”
17 The woman answered and said, “I have no husband.”
Jesus said to her, “You have well said, ‘I have no husband,’ 18 for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; in that you spoke truly.”
Jesus asked her to get her HUSBAND, but the woman admitted she didn't have a husband and Jesus said "THATS RIGHT CAUSE YOUR REAL HUSBAND ISN'T HERE THAT MAN ISN'T YOUR HUSBAND"
truthofgodbroadcast 8 months ago
Part 2
The woman didn't even acknowledge the man as her husband so why would you use that example to say remarriage and divorce is something God allows?
Jere 3:8 Explains that God allowed remarriage and divorce, not because the people wanted that, but so that He could use it to divorce Israel and marry the CHURCH
Matt 19:8 "Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."
truthofgodbroadcast 8 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast He took Ysrael back. Keep reading. No where in the scripture is there reference to His marrying the church in Jer 3:8. You do understand divorce is separation and not the abolishment/end/absolvement of a marriage, right? Show me one scripture where remarriage was allowed after a DIVORCE-it was allowed after the death of the spouse-not while the spouse lived. From the beginning, man only had ONE wife and divorce was not an option bc of the commandment of love.
lafathis 8 months ago
@lafathis
PART 1
Lets look at the word "Married". Go look up a definition of Married, notice most will refer to a actual marriage, however the last definition will say "closely or intimately united" OR "Closely connected; united."
Israel was the only country God specifically focused on (Old Testament), but after a while that message spread (New Testament Grace) when Israel rejected Jesus Christ's ways they made it official they were not of God.
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
PART 2
God was telling them that they were very close, but let it be known in Ephesians 5:25-27; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:24; Revelation 19:7-9; Revelation 21:1-2... that the church is the bride and God is the bridegroom
Again if you just divorced your wife, that doesn't make anything that happen between you null and void, you are still "married" with her (as in close), but not married to her. Notice in Israel they consider us Goyims, and don't see us as brothers/sisters in God
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Forgive me-I C answer 2: u call urself Goyim. I am not a Goyim-I am an Israelitess. U r still married n YHWH's eyes-has nothing 2 do w/ proximity or even how u feel about another. That's why Paul understood being single and when Yeshua taught on divorce the men mentioned staying single bc divorce did not mean u no longer were considered married N YHWH's eyes. u were an adulterer/adulteress based on how Yeshua explained.
lafathis 7 months ago
@lafathis
1st- The scripture you quoted was old testament which meant the bride (the church) wasn't established yet so thats why even though God divorced Israel he still made the declaration that he was still tied up with her... also why would you try to justify Israel in this verse when God is calling Israel a whore and adulterer?
2nd- REMEMBER in the Old testament divorce was allowed, it wasn't until Grace (New Testament) it was shut down permanently by Jesus Christ
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast 1st-C this is Y it is fuitile to reason, oftentimes. I give u sound doctrine/scripture as reference and u want 2 toss it away bc it is in OT. Yeshua taught from OT (Torah) not the NT. Everything He did FULFILLED OT scripture about Him. Don't ever disregard OT as if it's been done away with, regardless who it references, it exists 4 a reason. U thoughth that by tossing in NT and grace it washed YHWH's Word. NOT! What u stated is not scripture but your or a pastor's opinion.
lafathis 7 months ago
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast We still live by OT laws when we BREAK them. Laws are for the LAWLESS. When was the last time u committed murder or stole something and was forgiven with a blood sacrifice? The LAW of blood SACRIFICE was replaced by Yeshua's blood. But we still must uphold the OT Laws. If u break any, U R then under the LAW. Remember how Yeshua admonished the elders for not continuing in the practices but covering them? He cited how children went unpunished (death) for dishonoring parents.
lafathis 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Animal sacrifices are PROFANE to the Father now bc Yeshua is the ultimate sacrifice. If u die in ur sin, what happens? C U revert bac 2 the LAW when u sin and thus R judged according 2 it. NT does not license sin. It shows how u obtain mercy and grace under His blood, but u can still B condemned under the LAW for sin. If not, every1 could profess Yeshua and sin as much as they pleased. But U know it doesn't work this way. Righteous ppl do NOT sin N R not judged by the LAW.
lafathis 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast I'm OK understanding HOW the LAW was created for lawlessness N HOW righteousness does NOT sin therefore is not bound by LAW. w/ YHWH it's all abt choice that's Y we R told 2 choose LIFE. Wages of SIN R death. So, sin has a reward just as not sinning has rewards. U want 2 say u can't live a sin free life-Yeshua did it and He loves YHWH-if any1 say he loves the Father N doesnt keep His commandments is a liar. If u transgress His LAWs U SIN. Look it up! Repent-repent-repent!
lafathis 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast 2nd-I justified nothing-the Word justified itself. YHWH does reference Ysrael as such to explain why she was being divorced. Remember, Yeshua said from the beginning it was not so! Being as YHWH changes not, explain how it was "changed" to allow. (I already know the answer. But do U?) I'll help u out-they thought divorce "allowed" remarriage when it NEVER did-it was separation. Yeshua confirmed it & once they understood, it was diff 2 swallow they'd been mistaken.
lafathis 7 months ago
@lafathis
Response to 2nd Pt.1
Under OT divorce was allowed, Jesus explained that out of the hardness of the people's hearts Moses was forced to allow remarriage and divorce, of course God knowing all things knew this would happen and allowed Moses' law to stand, so if people got divorced and remarried they could cite Moses' law as the reason.
God then used the same law the people used to divorce Israel then Jesus came to correct the flaws in OT and one of the corrections was...
GO TO PART 2
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
Response to 2nd Pt.2
... the correction was NO REMARRIAGE AND DIVORCE... notice after the apostles hear this they were shocked, then when Jesus told them how married is supposed to be like the apostles said "Well it would be better if we did not marry", which show that it was wide spread knowledge at the time divorce and remarriage was allowed by Moses' law.
If what you said was the truth, then Jesus Christ would have call those people adulterers and sinners for remarrying a divorcing.
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast He did call it adultery. That was the entire purpose of His explaining it to them. Show where remarrying was allowed if the first spouse was still alive. You can't. Divorce was allowed he never stated REMARRIAGE was allowed. That's the law they were breaking. The only REMARRIAGE was if first spouse died. Men were allowed more than 1 wife but women were not allowed more than one husband. YHWH even told David had he requested more wives, He would have given them to him.
lafathis 7 months ago
@lafa
RESPONSE 1
Jesus Christ said it was adultery? Ok please show me the verse where Jesus said all those who remarried before he came on the scene to teach the people that "from the beginning it was not so"... tell me where he call those people adulterers... tell me why King Solomon was called a adulterer, or where Abraham was called a adulterer, or where David was called a adulterer.
Show me where Jesus rebuked them. NO, those men of God were under the law of Moses that permitted that
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Matt 5:27-28; 31-32; Matt 19:3-12; now read Matt 19:16-26 meat at verses 17 N 18 abt keeping the commandments. C, they were NEVER done away w! Even though He didnt mention adultery it 's commandment. He explained acts constituting adultery whereby they were astonished. I never said those men committed adultery. Show me what laws gave grounds for divorce and remarrige after the divorce in OT. David DID commit adultery but having more than 1 wife was not his act of adultery.
lafathis 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Yeshua NEVER said REMARRIAGE was allowed ONLY DIVORCE-SEPARATION. Men and women remarrying were sinning IF the spouse was alive still. If the spouse died while divorced, they could REMARRY but NOT while the spouse was alive. KEY: DIVORCE had 2 occur for adultery 2 exist N marrige or if sex was conducted w any1 otr than spouse. It's PUTTING AWAY that structured what was lawful or adultery N a divorce. A man marrying more than 1 wife was legit bc there was no divorce nvolved.
lafathis 7 months ago
@lafathis
Remarriage is called adultery right, because in Gods eyes you are still married... right?
So its safe to say remarriage is just a nice word for adultery according to scriptures, because according to scriptures if a married person get with/has sex/kisses/lust after someone else; they are considered an adulterer.
SO AGAIN I ask why didn't Jesus say Abraham, David, Solomon, etc were adulterers... why didn't He say Moses law was false and we were disobeying God the whole time?
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast 1-I nvr called Abraham or Solomon an adulterer 2-David DID commit adultery 3-I alrdy stated men were allowed 2 have > 1 wife but could not put her away N marry another N her place unless (we're dealing w a sgl wife) she had premarital sex, she was divorced N her 1st spouse was alive, she was a non-blver, or she had sex during her marriage. Otherwise, his acts were illegal. Show me where Any of them ever DIVORCED a wife cause I never read it. Thre4 they wer not ADULTERERs
lafathis 7 months ago
@lafathis
When the apostles heard what Jesus said they said "Better we not get married" obviously their was a difference between OT marriage rules and NT marriage rules.
Matt 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to PUT HER AWAY?
We can safely assume someone was putting someone away at that time, and AGAIN Jesus Christ did not condemn those people because it was allowed at that time
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast They were asking about putting away for EVERY CAUSE no U couldn't put away 4 EVERY CAUSE-except infedelity. I cant explin N this little space. U have 2 read OT and NT-it says same Deut 24:1-4. There's much 2 know abt the LAWS and not enuf 2 type 2 hlp u understand.Yes infedelity. Fornication is porneias or prostitution in NT. just can't put it all in this so I ask the Holy Spirit 2 open ur understanding.
lafathis 7 months ago
@lafathis
Strange you mention Deut 24, it specifically states "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes"
Isn't that how all divorces are done?
When one party doesn't like the other anymore?
As a matter of fact this lines up perfectly with what God done to Israel, God called Israel a whore... if that doesn't mean "lost favor" I don't know what is.
Sis you just dug your argument into a hole, maybe you should re-read Deut 24: 1-4 again
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast U obv dont even know the context of that scripture. U can only divorce for SPECIFIC cause NOT EVERY. U need 2 read further-there's reason she lost favor nt bc he woke 1day out of luv w his wife-she did smthng. thats why she was called unclean. u cnt stop there. Deut 22:16-19. This hate is emotional & u canot put away 4 emotion w/o marrital violation-the bed. Deut 24 his emotion's based on her uncleaness-she violated the marriage & he is alwd under law 2 divorce her.
lafathis 7 months ago
@lafathis I'm glad you brought that up because it AGAIN give clear JUSTIFICATION on why God divorced Israel.. everything you said backs that up.
So again I have to ask why are you bringing me Scriptures that agree with my argument? God divorced Israel and married the Church because Israel LOST FAVOR in God's eyes. AGAIN according to YOUR WORDS you said
"U need 2 read further-there's reason she LOST FAVOR nt bc he woke 1day out of luv w his wife-she DID SMTHNG. thats why she was called UNCLEAN"
truthofgodbroadcast 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast If the preacher baptized me in the name of the lord "Jesus Chris" and forgot to pronounce the "t" at the end of Christ, am I baptized properly? Please someone help me.
basicman101 4 months ago
@basicman101
You should be fine. God is the Knower of all things. As long as that preacher wasn't baptizing you in the name of another god named Jesus Chris then you should be fine.
Not having perfect grammar isn't gonna mess up your baptism. For example when you pray and you mispronounce a word, that doesn't cause God not to understand for God is the Knower of all things
truthofgodbroadcast 4 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast But what if the peacher baptized me in the titles father son holy ghost? Will God understand and show me compassion and not send me to hell?
basicman101 4 months ago
@basicman101
If you didn't know. then I don't believe you well be sent to hell.
But if you knew and rejected, then you have to answer to God for that. Because you know have that knowledge, you have to get baptized right. Call First Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ (Pastor Jennings church) and ask where you can get a proper baptism. Pastor Gino says even if its for one person he would send people to baptize you.
The church number is 215 739 8100
truthofgodbroadcast 4 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Thanks for your reply and dedication to the ministry.
basicman101 4 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
Lord is not a name but a title, Jesus is the name with the power, im not against in people baptizing in the name Lord Jesus,But for him to say baptizing in the name of Jesus is not valid has to be wrong and has to be legalistic.
YourWrong951 4 months ago
@YourWrong951
YourWrong.... it seems your wrong
Again, there was more then one person named Jesus in the Scriptures, one of them was even a false prophet. We are to do as the Scriptures say and give due honor to Jesus Christ when baptizing.
truthofgodbroadcast 4 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
So what your trying to say that the all knowing God who knows our thoughts might get confuse who we are referring to when we use the name of Jesus.
When people were possessed they used the NAME OF JESUS to take those demands out because there is power just in that name.
When Paul used the name of Jesus alone to take out demons he knew he wasnt speaking about his neighbor jesus but His God Jesus. God knows who we are referring to, He knows our thoughts.
YourWrong951 3 months ago
@YourWrong951
No it has nothing to do with confusion. Notice people don't have a issue calling their boss Mister, or Sir.... but they don't want to call Jesus Christ name in the proper way during baptism.
Possession and baptism are 2 completely different things, when one is possessed you don't put them down in water, so why compare the 2?
Its true God knows all our thoughts, but at the same time He has rules we must obey. This sounds like the "God knows my heart so I can do what I want" excuse
truthofgodbroadcast 3 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
You have to compare different things in order to prove something.The proper name for Jesus is Jesus which means God is salvation so by that name we are going to be saved and for teachers to be condemning others for using that name when baptizing should be very careful.
Jesus is the most powerful name in this whole universe and for u to say our baptism is not valid because we forgot the title Christ is just legalistic and you are missing the point.
YourWrong951 3 months ago
@YourWrong951
@YourWrong951
How are you going to accuse me of comparing 2 different things when YOUR the one who brought up Paul taking out demons?
We must worship as the Scriptures instructed us to. Remember Moses, God told him to speak to the rock, but Moses ended up hitting it and that cost him not to be able to lay foot in the land of milk and honey, you might say "Well thats legalistic why would Moses be denied entry just for that".... NO its God's way, and its His way we must follow.
truthofgodbroadcast 3 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
Does God permit lying or you reading my text wrong, i havent accuse you of anything.
Peter said to be baptize in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, so after he says name he says of our Lord Jesus Christ, so in reality you should be baptizing " in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ" exactly in that order, if you dont than your not fallowing the bible.
YourWrong951 3 months ago
@YourWrong951
"When Paul used the name of Jesus alone to take out demons he knew he wasnt speaking about his neighbor jesus but His God Jesus"
You made this comment 5 days ago... why are you accusing me of lying?
Anyways, that brings us back into agreement, Lord Jesus, or Jesus Christ is good. You are saying the same thing I am now
truthofgodbroadcast 3 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
Nope, it says in the bible Lord Jesus Christ in that order.
See thats what your doing when i say, in the name of Jesus.
YourWrong951 3 months ago
@YourWrong951
Notice the Scripture said in the name of OUR LORD Jesus Christ. Lord is a title, its not a name it itself unless its followed by a name, hence Lord Jesus... when you say that you make it clear. Jesus Christ also makes it clear who's name you are baptizing in.
Notice if I see a cop with 20 other cops, but I only want his attention I won't just say "officer" because thats just a title... however if I say "Officer Brown" then I make it clear who I'm calling
truthofgodbroadcast 3 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
Im just curious, what well happen to the people who get baptize in the name of Jesus, your opinion?
YourWrong951 3 months ago
@YourWrong951
I can't give "my option" I have to refer to what the Scriptures say.... don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to put people down or condemn them. But I can't tell you something that the Scriptures don't back.
The Scriptures tells us how we must function because the is the Word of God. If I started saying "Well in my opinion..." it would be null and void because I can't put you in Heaven, only God can and the only way to get to Heaven is to obey His Word.
truthofgodbroadcast 3 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
In the name of "Lord Jesus Christ".
Lord- title
Jesus- Name
Christ- attribute
Lord has no power, Christ has no power, JESUS the most powerful NAME in the universe.The title and attribute is fine to baptize with because theres a connection to Jesus as long as you include the Name. You are minimizing the name of Jesus by you saying you HAVE TO include an attribute or title to His name. The name of Jesus doesnt need anything to make His name greater or more powerful.
YourWrong951 3 months ago
@YourWrong951
Yourwrong, was it not you who shown me the verse that said IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST?
Lord is indeed a title, that shows proper respect and honor to who we are talking about. Christ lets it be known we are talking about a higher power, since even in the Scriptures we seen men(even false prophets) with the name Jesus.
Notice the only time you are instructed to use Lord Jesus, or Jesus Christ is in baptism... why do you kick against the prick?
truthofgodbroadcast 3 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast
I said LORD JESUS CHRIST to try to prove a point to you, when peter says after NAME, he says "LORD JESUS CHRIST" but you guys only use christ which is an attribute, your the one saying word for word and if you go word for word than according to you, you have to baptize in the name of our "LORD JESUS CHRIST" exactly like that.
Jesus commanded, FATHER,SON,HOLY SPIRIT, i know it is Jesus but if you go word for word than you have to baptize what Jesus commanded, word for word.
YourWrong951 3 months ago
@YourWrong951
Time to end this confusion with Scriptures
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:5
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Find me ANYWHERE in the Scriptures where they just said "Jesus" when baptizing, notice every time its done, its Lord Jesus or Jesus Christ.
truthofgodbroadcast 3 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Okay, this question is about women preachers. There are many truly saved, holy ghost filled water baptized in Jesus name, living a holy anointed life speaking in true tongues women preachers through out the years that have genuinely and truly lead people to Christ. Are these women doing God's work? Are the people who were brought to God by her labor truly saved?
basicman101 4 months ago
@basicman101
We see in 1 Tim 2 8-15 it states what women are allowed to do, then states why they aren't permitted to preach/teach. Understand God gives all of us our perspective roles that we must follow.
You brought up woman leading people to.... I suggest you watch part 4 of our my videos called "Pastor Gino Members Speak Out 4" listen to the former woman preacher say why she stopped preaching.
We can continue this convo over there
truthofgodbroadcast 4 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast So u r stating ever person u ever had sex w/ u r married 2? (If so, what then is fornication? I know the answer 2 both, by the way.) Be careful when answering this bc u will have ppl believing the 1st person they had sex w/ is their spouse and the majority of ppl r adulterers who "married" by land's law. Many ppl will go 2 hell based on your theory. U can have a "married" business partnership, etc. That's the meaning of your last definition.
lafathis 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast I C U conform scripture to meet your liking. Yeshua warned against this. Every scripture u responded 2-if u responded-u circumvented what was stated, rather u interpreted as u saw fit. Again, u did not answer my previous question about divorce-u came back about marriage. Stay on topic and focus. A woman cannot b married 2 more than 1 man simultaneously-she'd b an adulteress. A man would b an adulterer by putting away his wife or sleeping w another woman who wasn't his wife.
lafathis 7 months ago
@truthofgodbroadcast 1-she spoke w/ Yeshua and they talked about her life-not just her marriages; He knew things about her w/o her telling Him and she perceived Him as a prophet.. 2-no1 knows the relationship w/the "man"/she did not call the man a husband. 3-Yeshua did not call her an adulteress, so the 5 husbands had to have all been dead and she may have begun a new relationship leading to a sixth-that's why she had none at the time. 4-divorce is separation not abosolvement/end of marriage.
lafathis 8 months ago
Yeshua never made statements against women teachers and the men and women were in Ysrael in their positions-had they not been, we would have been told this-as we were before being dispersed. So no woman can interpret scripture? How will she know the truth? And you did not hear about homosexual acts in the new testament but I know they happened. You didn't hear about abortions, but they occur today. If it's not stated, it does not mean it is wrong. There is no commandment against women preachers.
lafathis 8 months ago
New Testaments. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1995, S. 1 Ti 2:12
4Garland, David E.: 1 Corinthians. Grand Rapids, Mich. : Baker Academic, 2003 (Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament), S. 675
preacher100200 8 months ago
@preacher100200
PART 1
preacher I'm gonna reply using my alternate account:
Bro why are you trying to twist scripture? You basically saying you support women preachers, and used dictionaries and other false prophets personal views to prove your "point"
God said he is a God THAT CHANGE NOT, so why are you saying he would make "special exceptions"? Special exceptions to disobey? The scriptures make it clear a woman cannot teach scripture but KEEP SILENT.
I'm gonna break down this "argument"
chevypp 8 months ago
PART 2
PREACHING IS TEACHING
For a man to preach THE WORD OF GOD he must be teaching the people what God wants then to learn. If that man isn't going to teach what God whats the people to learn, then he is not preaching God's Word but is just doing some motivational speaking. You cannot preach unless you teach God's Word.
4 Example lets say a woman is preaching but not teaching... that means she can't use scripture, nor can she answer questions so what is she going to teach?
chevypp 8 months ago
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@chevypp
PART 3
GOD DOESN'T CHANGE WITH THE "TIMES"
I see you said "And it was a cultural issue for a woman to teach a man or a congregation full of men. But in this culture, we do not have this issue"
So by saying that you are saying that
1) God changes with the times (even though God said He is a God that changes NOT)
2) That scriptures were NOT Godly inspired, but written by man who was just reflecting that culture
Your statement is accusing God of being a liar
chevypp 8 months ago
PART 4
PERSONALLY... THAT THE PROBLEM
You said "Personally, I do not find it weird or strange if women preach or Teach one another, because this is Scriptural according to Titus 2:3-5"
According to scripture Titus 2:3-5 is telling the mother (older women) to teach the young women how to be decent respectful women that obey her husband and loves her kids. NO WHERE in that verse does it talk about scriptures being teached or preached.. ALSO NOTE the teaching in Titus is not happening IN A CHURCH
chevypp 8 months ago
@chevypp First, dont insult, scholars and commentators, who you may not know anything about, do your research before you get all emotional about things. Logic is of God and for us to have a logical convo lets remember to be sensitive bro. If you look at my argument, you would find out i present both views, and say God is beyond all things and can certainly do things which we may not understand and yet be perfectly just in God, secondly, my argument is balanced
preacher100200 8 months ago
@preacher100200
I don't know these "scholars or commentators" but I do remember Paul saying
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Logic is for people trying to twist scripture, one of your "scholars" even said the scriptures are not right and you have to REMOVE 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 for it to make sense!!!. Your scholars are not God taught so therefore they speak what they do not know
chevypp 8 months ago
Your scholars are just a bunch of men that twisted scripture, none of them are God called or God sent, for example 1 Cor 14:34-35 make perfect sense with 1 Cor 11:5
1 Cor 14:34-35 speaks of women NOT speaking and preaching in the church... however women were permitted to be a prophesier, because a prophesier was just someone foretelling a event that was going to come, but she wasn't teaching scripture or preaching.
Your scholars are NOT God called, God will never "logically" tell you to sin
chevypp 8 months ago
@chevypp Just like i expected, someone who does not read or study but just proclaims there own belief. Sadly the scholars and theologians are they that make sense of sticky situations, without them what we are reading we would not understand or could even be read or translated. Surly there are flaws in your thinking and you may need to be open minded about others. I have presented a fair and objective view and you have not refuted or show me my folly. So i am justified and true in my conclusion
preacher100200 8 months ago
@chevypp Logically speaking and theologically if God was to command you to do something, and you refuse to do it because of previous revelation or etc then you are actually disobeying God. SO if a woman was told of God to speak or preach or teach and she refuses then she has disobeyed God. Revelation is progressive in any period and i dont think it has changed, but we have the bible to confirm and if necessary condemn other Doctrines, or the bible is the final authority in matters.
preacher100200 8 months ago
@preacher100200
God will never tell someone to do something he himself commanded you not to do, NEVER happened in the scriptures before and never will. God will never call a woman cause multiple times He said and explained why women should not be teaching, or preaching to men. God made it clear that the woman was the weaker vessel, and stated in was Eve and not Adam who was deceived.
People love to say "God told them to..." even when it was written long ago "THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN
chevypp 8 months ago
@chevypp i will post my reply on your page
preacher100200 8 months ago
@preacher100200
No just post your reply on this channel
chevypp 8 months ago
and not from Paul. They conclude that someone sharing the views expressed in 1 Timothy added these words to ban women’s participation in mixed assemblies. MacArthur, John: 1 Timothy. Chicago : Moody Press, 1995, S. 86 Geneva Bible Notes (1599). Bellingham, WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2003, S. 1 Ti 2:12
3MacDonald, William ; Farstad, Arthur: Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and
preacher100200 8 months ago
the plural “in the churches”; the appeal to the law in the absolute sense without quoting or referring to a specific passage; and the appeal to shame as a general cultural matter (as opposed to shaming the spouse [11:5]). Others posit that the language reflects that of 1 Tim. 2:11–12, which is assumed to derive from a later time
preacher100200 8 months ago
The topic of women’s silence in the church also does not seem to fit the context, which refers to controlling manifestations of the Spirit in worship. Fee (1994: 280) argues that verses 34–35 have nothing to do with tongues, prophecy, or the Spirit and simply demand of women unqualified silence in the churches. Fee thinks that they were inserted here because of their catchword relation to silence. Fee (1994: 279) also claims that these verses contain linguistic aberrations: the use of
preacher100200 8 months ago
Surly if the man takes His rightful position, there would not be any need for a woman to want a teaching position.
Likewise 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is straight forward but these are very controversial, according to Garland, (2003) :
The intrinsic evidence for the original absence of 14:34–35 from the text is a bit stronger. . Removing these verses from the text solves the problem of its apparent contradiction with 11:5.
preacher100200 8 months ago
Though these can be ruled out as special circumstances etc, it is always a possibility that God who is the Makers of Law and Rulers of All, can make exceptions and make it possible. It may not be the general but it may be In few cases. This does not mean I am in agreement with all the Women Teachers, but I believe God has called some due to the slumbering of the Men in these last times to awaken them into positions.
preacher100200 8 months ago
church.” Also the Geneva Bible Notes (1599). states that “The first argument, why it is not lawful for women to teach in the congregation, because by this means they would be placed above men, for they would be their masters: and this is against God’s ordinance.
”But it does not exclude Preaching and teaching to the Young and the young women. I would also draw from cases such as Deborah (Judges 4:4) and others that they were used to teach and operate in the office of authority.
preacher100200 8 months ago
teaching. Priscilla and Aquila both instructed Apollos (Acts 18:26), but in private and not in the worship of the church.
Just to conclude I Believe Women are not to teach publicly to the church, according to the 3MacDonald et al (1997) it stated “When Paul says: I do not permit a woman to teach, he is speaking as inspired of God. This does not represent Paul’s own personal prejudice, as some say. It is God who decrees that women should not have a public teaching ministry in the chur
preacher100200 8 months ago
the meanings by mistake or lack of researching. Which is understandable or he is being fallacious with the Scriptures and pushing forth His doctrines, either off, he will have to change His Position, based solely on 1 Tim 2:8-14. Personally, I do not find it weird or strange if women preach or Teach one another, because this is Scriptural according to Titus 2:3-5. But also according to MacArthur (1995), He stated that 1 Tim 2:8-14 “… does not entirely rule out women
preacher100200 8 months ago
According to Merriam Webster definition of teaching and preaching it is clear both mean different things. And though a woman is exempted from Teaching Doctrines or instructing she can actually preach. The bible does not forbid women to preach. Also the Greek words for teaching/teacher and preaching/preacher are total different, so we are rest assure this is not a play of words or a straining of definitions
preacher100200 8 months ago
make known, or to deliver a sermon
2 : to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action specif : to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner vt
1 : to set forth in a sermon 〈preach the gospel〉
2 : to advocate earnestly 〈preached revolution〉
3 : to deliver (as a sermon) publicly
4 : to bring, put, or affect by preaching
preacher100200 8 months ago
In teaching I understand, one can “show or instruct” another new things, but the real undertaking of teaching is to Educate. And it was a cultural issue for a woman to teach a man or a congregation full of men. But in this culture, we do not have this issue and thus we should revise and understand what it really means in modern terms. But I am not saying change scripture.
The topic in discussion is whether a woman should Preach, to preach is:, to proclaim,
preacher100200 8 months ago
er, conduct one’s self as a teacher. 2 to teach one. 2A to impart instruction. 2B instill doctrine into one. 2C the thing taught or enjoined. 2D to explain or expound a thing. 2F to teach one something.)
Clearly, From 1 Tim 2:12 I can see a woman is not to hold the office of Teaching or be a Teacher of the word, but that’s all it declares in the verse.
The church is blessed with the Five-Fold ministry and apart from teaching the woman can hold other positions if she wills.
preacher100200 8 months ago
1 Tim 2:12 “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. ” It is clear she should not exercise authority over the man in the office of the church and she should not instruct or teach doctrine in the Church, also the word (διδάσκω [didasko /did•as•ko/] can mean ‘to hold discourse with others in order to instruct them, deliver didactic discourses. 1B to be a teacher. 1C to discharge the office of a teach
preacher100200 8 months ago
"There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk after the flesh but after the Spirit" (Rom8:1). Christianity is the newness of life in Christ Jesus, and it functions only in the Spirit. Flesh cannot fake it. " so then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. But you are not in the Flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." (Rom8:8-9)
danielle20ah 10 months ago
By starting a new church you solve no problem, even in your church with men and women separated, there still many who are not holy in the sight of God. we fighting each other only promotes the work of the devil. we will destroy each other without the devil as much as lift up a finger " But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by by one another!" (Gal5:15) .Christianity is life in the Spirit
danielle20ah 10 months ago
Our Lord Jesus Christ said " As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. therefore be zealous and repent." (Rev3:19). If you truely love the church of Christ I believe you would have taken a different strategy. Starting a church to compete with others solves no problem it only amplifies it and that is just what the devil desires. when there are many churches people get confused, no one knows which is the true one or the false one so they decide to remain unbelievers.
danielle20ah 10 months ago
If God reveals things to you, it is for the welfare of every member of the body of Christ. no one has the totality of Knowledge of God. Jesus Chist cared about the false teacher Jezebel ( Rev2:20-23) so much so that he gave her time to repent and even warned her through the apostle John. yes there are many pastors teaching and preaching false doctrines, I believe it is ur responsibility to rebuke, reprove and warn them about their doctrines .
danielle20ah 10 months ago
He condemns what other preachers practice which he believes are not Scripturally acceptable, yet he uses his own 'sound judgement' to separate women from men and he thinks it is good in the sight of God. I am not condemning nor approving the practice, what i simply mean is "knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks He knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know" (1Cor8:1-2). again "For we know in part and we we prophesy in part." (1Cor13:9).
danielle20ah 10 months ago
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yeloboy1991 1 year ago
If women dress formally at your church why are separating them. Where in the bible do it say specifically separate the men and women.It tells them to be silent in the church but church was out of order back then and now too! As much as I like your teachings yes I said I like your teachings you are becoming Lifted up with Pride and I dare anybody on you-tube to challenge this. Jesus the expressed image of God fullness bodily is what the whole Bible is about.
yeloboy1991 1 year ago
The spirit is all over me now bring me to your church oh I forgot it's not your church pastor Jennings. I'm not a scholar or pastor yet but you need to talk about Jesus Christ more. It's by grace and grace alone that we Christians are saved.Jesus the son of the living MOST HIGH done it all at the cross. It should be structure in the church. But you are on a power Men can sit with there wife because they might not focus on God or do you mean you pastor Jennings.
yeloboy1991 1 year ago
So last but not least If for odd reason pastor Jennings wife left him I bet you see a new outcome.Now I'm not married yet and i have never been married. But I wouldn't go on the rest of my life hurting or masturbating cause somebody told me I was going to heel behind it God and him only makes that decision.In the old testament King David sleep with another man wife, married her and had the husband killed on the front line of war while she was pregnant and he was after God own heart!!!!!!
yeloboy1991 1 year ago
Now Jesus did say he's coming not to destroy the laws but to fulfill them right! So if my wife or husband decides to leave me behind adultery or spiritual desertion of God or just don't want to be with me. Paul said it's better to marry then to burn. And that's with fleshly desires or fornication cause it's in our nature for man and woman only!! to be together.So if she's leaves and don't come back I'm I suppose to masturbate the rest of my life. No cause that's unholy too!!
yeloboy1991 1 year ago
@dukebob I wish on this one subject alone he would call me there. Let's read Romans Ch.7 vs. 4-6, wherefore, my brethren,ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ ;that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
yeloboy1991 1 year ago
ACTS 2:38! its plain and simple! , Gino made a comment about the UPC, which i am. what about your spouse commits adultery, leaves you for another... do u stay married? what if that spouse divorces you?
dukebob1 1 year ago
ACTS 2:38! its plain and simple!
dukebob1 1 year ago
if nothing else... this video will increase my study in this area
1peebrain 1 year ago
oh i miss that old time religion. uno no si church now adays a papi show thing. this man come fi preach di truth weda uno like it r not and jesus did have alot of haters even till now so a no nutin if uno hate him, jesus love him
yourclassmate100 1 year ago
uno just cant handle di truth, this preacha naah beg nuh friend like some a di preacha dem weh fraid fi preach di truth cause dem no waa lose members. some a di preacha dem change dem message cause dem wife nuh like it dem change it fi please dem wife. dem bed get cold now....lol.. talk di things dem pastor jennings..
yourclassmate100 1 year ago
@ moneygreeen3 go read u bible before u come talk faaaat. di bible seh woman should keep silent in the church
yourclassmate100 1 year ago
@yourclassmate100 Read your bible correctly.. what Kind of women was Paul talking about? he was talking about women who were out of line and order causing confusion!! Paul himself had women preachers with him!!! lol theres women preachers all through the bible and women leaders!!! The bible said let everything that hath breath Praise the Lord... how can that happen when they are "silent" in the church?? lol rightly divided the word of truth!!
moneygreen3 1 year ago
more than one Jesus in the Bible huh.... another devil.
Lyra74 1 year ago
@Lyra74
Bar Jesus- Acts 13,6-12
Jesus Justus- Colossians 4:11
Please read you bible before you speak
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago 4
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Lyra74 1 year ago
@dkn1362
lol, please, its a translation, but the name is still the same, look at all the names in the scriptures, you think names like John, Peter, Moses, David, etc were pronounced like that in their time/country, NO
But in order for our tongues to understand, the language must be changed so we can understand, for example there is no "J"s in Arabic, so it sounds like "HA-SU-ah" they are talking about the same Jesus, So follow Jesus' Word, or Yeshua will send you to hell
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
GINO is a DAMNED FOOL, he shall be damned if he does not come to the light.
dqwatson 1 year ago
in regards to this broadcast read 1 corinthians 14:34-35 / 1 timothy 2:8-14 u will get your answers people this is n the BIBLE
truckindon71 1 year ago
I will have to state that a woman preaching is not sin, we know what sin is according to James 1, however sin is the transgression of God's Word (written or spoken). For example if the Spirit of God didnt led Pastor Gino and He didnt Go to this interview without the Spirit permission He would Have sinned.
preacher100200 1 year ago
..from her. This is where the saying comes from, which says the children are at their mothers feet.
7.Fatherhood and Motherhood are taught by Parents and children learn it to become a new family.
This is the order God establish the Family unit and even though its not perfect nowadays, a successful family unit whether consciously or unconsciously will fall in to this pattern. I think Pastor Gino views are quite strong and may need to explain more to aid understanding
preacher100200 1 year ago
1. Men connect with God and Learn the Cluture and Principle of God
2. Men take responsiblity and begin to get into there purpose
3.God brings His Wife and gives the woman back to the man, thus the woman is no longer married to Jesus.
4 Man and Woman grow together and teach one another, hence the man becomes her provider, Support, Protector and every thing God is.
5. Man remain in Constant connetcion with God, Giving Direct to His Family.
6.Woman Now teaches the Children, as they are drawn
preacher100200 1 year ago
In fact Eve was tricked in the serpent speech. It is was not eve's fault Adam messed up by failing to translate the instruction, this is the first display of why God formed/created Man and Woman. The Man is meant to be in a place where He knows God and Then Find His Wife. This is usually the best situation. To be really Honest if the Man gets it right with God the woman will be happy being a Helper, Sustainer and a builder. Basically the Proverb 31 woman. This was the order God set things......
preacher100200 1 year ago
I dont think anywhere in the bible forbid women not to preacher, God can use any willing vessle be it Men or Women, however God would prefer to use a man, because this is the reason He created him first to represent God on earth. The woman was pull out of a man and therefore her substanance is from the man, and not God. This is why satan beguiled Eve because she lack the direct commands and instruction given to Adam from God.
preacher100200 1 year ago
@preacher100200 try reading 1 timothy 2:8-14 and 1 corinthians 14:34-35 reasearch it you will find your answer
truckindon71 1 year ago
@truckindon71 Thanks for the tips, i have done some research and shall post them to you on your inbox, kind regards, and if any one else is interested. Let me know and i will make it available to You. The Research is based on, whether Women should preach, the results are shocking
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preacher100200 8 months ago
@preacher100200
Preacher100200 if you can, could you post your findings on this vid too, it seems that you have knowledge to share
truthofgodbroadcast 8 months ago
If Peter was Wrong in Acts 2:38 why didnt thee Other Apostles Correct Him & say "LORD JESUS"??? What was the Greatest Message. was it by a Man or Women??? Title of the Message "He Has Risen" hint it wasnt from a Man!!
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@moneygreen3
lol, I guess your trying to say women can preach, Mary didn't start preaching she was told by Jesus to tell the other Apostles that He has risen; she didn't go out on the streets preaching, or get into deep revelations about anything, just to tell the Apostles "I have risen", if that was Mary preaching then how come she only did it one time? Cause she wasn't preaching just passing info along from Jesus that he has risen
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Where in the Bible does it say they "CANT" PREACH... Show Me that in the Bible. To Answer Your Question Sir That same message that was Preached & Sent to the Apostles was Told a few times but yet them Boys didnt Pay attention. Maybe because they was to busy stuck in their Traditon & Dogma & look at the outward apperance & missed the God Given Thus saith the Lord Message. sad that Jesus had to appear unto them so that they can believe...
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@moneygreen3
sorry I don't log into this account often, first time seeing your post... first off if women were to preach God would have called a woman to preach and expound the ways of God... but that has NEVER happen from Genesis to Revelations.
Look all thru old testament , NO WOMEN PREACHERS... Jesus Christ came, and set straight a lot of things (divorce, sabbath, etc) but never did He change the standard of women preaching, which meant it was a law God meant for the people to follow
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
@truthofgodbroadcast its all good... we get busy at times... I hear what your saying but When we search the scriptures & we truly get down in Gods word we must Understand the Nature of God. Jesus is not a sexist nor is the Gospel of Jesus Christ Gender Driven. In Joel & in Acts, in the Last Days he will pour out his spirit upon all Flesh, Sons & Daughters shall Prophesy. We must understand that God uses who he wants. In The Old Testament God placed Deborah to be a Ruler, a Judge...
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@moneygreen3 AMEN!!
Chaunee2005 1 year ago
@truthofgodbroadcast & Do you serve a God that is in a Box?? Because the God i Serve Lord Jesus Christ, he uses who ever he please because Hes God not you or me!! Who are we to say who God can and can't use for the Glory and thee advancement of the Kingdom of God???... He used a Donkey to speak a Word to Balam lol The Gospel is Not Gender driven nor does it care about your Color or your age!!! This is a Whosoever Will.... We as a ppl must do better. i love yall im praying for yall
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@moneygreen3
No God isn't in a box.. you know what else God isn't he isn't a God that changes either
Scriptures plainly say no women preachers, this is supported because you don't see any women preaching... you see women prophesize, but not go out and preach
I heard all the excuses for women preachers (Pricilla and Aquilla, Mary saying Jesus rose, the donkey, etc) and I prove all of those stories had nothing to do with women preaching, Show me in the bible where it says "WHOEVER WILL"?!?!
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Show Me in the Bible where it says WOMEN CANT PREACH.... thats all i want to see. Show me where it says "Thus Saith the Lord"
& What were Pricilla & Aquilla? & what Apostle, Disciple were they with?
where is the Gender in this text
& he gave some, apostles; & some, prophets; & some evangelists; & some, pastors & teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ . Till we all come in the unity of the faith"
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@moneygreen3
PART 1 OF ANSWER
AH YES the Pricilla and Aquilla story... well first off, it was a man AND woman that were always mentioned, not just the women
Second if we read the story of P&A notice Paul who said to ordain in every city NEVER ordained P or A, but called them his "helpers" cause they were fellow tent makers The confusion about P&A starts with Apollos, they say that Pricilla and Aquilla taught Apollos about God but... CONTINUE TO PART 2
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
@moneygreen3
PART 2 OF ANSWER
...but read that verse about Apollos
24 Now a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man and MIGHTY in the Scriptures, came to Ephesus.
25 This man had been instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in spirit, he spoke and taught ACCURATELY the things of the Lord, though he knew only the baptism of John.
Tell me, what were P&A gonna teach a man when the bible itself admits this man knows DEEP things in Scriptures
CONT. TO PART 3
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
@moneygreen3
Part 3 of ANSWER
Lets keep reading
26 So he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Aquila and Priscilla heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately.
OOPS, now there is when women ran off thinking they can preach... but hold on, notice they didn't pull him aside till he began to speak BOLDLY... why was that?
Cause P&A saw that he was right in what he was saying, but his approch and delivery wasn't God's way
CONTINUE to PART 4
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Apollos a Man who had a Zeal for God, who spoke Bodly nothing wrong with that, but he was a novice, he didnt have enough Word or Knowledge in him. But it took P&A to teach this Man the way of God Jesus Christ More Perfectly. KJ Version said that they "Taught" If he had enough knowledge of the word There would be no need for P&A to pull him to the side. Correct??
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@moneygreen3
PART 4 OF ANSWER
Apollos approach was direct and hard, even says that in Acts 18-28
"for he VIGOROUSLY refuted the Jews publicly, showing from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ"
P&A saw that this wasn't the way to win souls for Christ by slamming the Jews, but he had to be more Christ like... basically his words were good and knowledge sharp, but his delivery was not Christ like.
But notice they didn't preach and spread anything, just reminding Apollos of God's ways
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
@truthofgodbroadcast we must notice & understand that these women had a relationship with the Lord 1st. They Followed the Man of God... Paul left P&A Because he knew they have the truth. Apollos was speaking but because they knew the Truth, they sat him down & Taught this Man the way of God more Perfectly. How can Women Tell or show a "Man" a more Perfect way in God? Its simple when you are in truth & know Gods Word & have the Holy Ghost God gives you Apostolic Authority to do so.
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@truthofgodbroadcast I Love ya Brutha... im coming at you with Love, just want you to help me understand... Peace!!
moneygreen3 1 year ago
@moneygreen3 Preaching Teaching, Speaking Thus Saith the Lord doesnt have a Gender... Scripture tells us "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;" no where was gender mention. scripture said God gave some..... when it comes to "Bishops" Gender was Mention.. & all i ask i want to see is where Women "Cant Preach" just show me that scripture... & I RESPECT THE LOVE & THE GRACE COMING FROM YOU.
moneygreen3 1 year ago
I am so glad I have a bible salvation. Pastor Jennings I pray and I believe that you will continue to stand strong and continue to preach the word of God in it's fullness.
JcanN73 1 year ago
which Jesus!!!! Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth
ARTHEROPY 1 year ago
Even the name Jesus in uncorect. Thats how silly this argument is. There was know J being used at that time.
dresskeep 1 year ago
@dresskeep
Really?
You know different tongues pronounce names differently, as a matter of fact they don't even have a J sound in Hebrew, its pronounced "Ha Shoo Ah"
What is your point, cause different tongues are gonna say the name differently
truthofgodbroadcast 1 year ago
there is no flaw in his teachings. The word of god is given with no compromise at all.. only the children of the devil reject the truth..
MCPHERSL45CAL 1 year ago
@MCPHERSL45CAL minor correction when you Talking about Jesus Christ or Lord Jesus Christ God Almighty you might want to put a Captial G when you are referring to the True & Living God. Peace
moneygreen3 1 year ago
Jennings teaching is not scriptural.
acts238forever 2 years ago
@ 6:56 he says that "most" couples get married with a prenuptial agreement. that is so stupid. the vast majority of all people do not do that, especially church people.
acts238forever 2 years ago
stick a fork in me im done
wenithboy 2 years ago
Ok, what does it say in Matthew 28:18-20? Somebody please type it in on this Video! Let's do some homework people and don't let Gino Jennings or any other person on this earth be your personal holy spirit! God can speak to us all and He will show us the true way! Go to a Bible teaching church and follow the sciptures. If you like Gino Jennings go there but don't let him tell you that the Bible says that we aren't to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and of the Holy Ghost!
Loubanga83 2 years ago
And what is the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
440plus6 2 years ago
Lord Jesus
MCPHERSL45CAL 1 year ago
@440plus6 The name of the Father and of the Son and of the HolyGhost is (Jesus Christ!)(Acts 2:38) fulfills( mathew 28:19 )in mathew, Jesus Christ was giving the commandment to the deciples/apostles.When their understanding was opened( Luke 24:44-49)they knew what name Jesus spoke of..(Acts 19:1-6)the apostle Paul Baptized some of Johns converts ..so we see hear according to scripture the name of the Father ,Son and HolyGhost is Jesus!
Min/Pastor Wendell
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MrPrincekinggreen 1 year ago
@Loubanga83
Its people like you who say "ignore the bible just follow what feels go to you and God will allow it"
Its a shame you don't have any scriptures to counter what was said, you just said "well this man sounds right, but I don't want to give up MY lifestyle so I'm just gonna say trust yourself and do what YOU think is good"
Also the bible said in THE NAME (singular) that means ONE, not names NAME
truthofgodbroadcast 2 years ago
@truthofgodbroadcast Thank you for posting this because their are so many ignorant christians out there who can't read and in addition the disciples were baptized in the name of the lord Jesus Christ. God bless
childofGodbrown 1 year ago
@Loubanga83....Gino isnt telling you own "his" own authority what to be baptize in,the SCRIPTURES CLEARLY says,"baptize in the "NAME" of the father,son,&holy ghost. The "NAME" of the father,son,&holy ghost is JESUS CHRIST!! Father,son,&H.G. are "TITLES"!!! Jesus said "NAME"!!! Im a father,son,& a husband,but I have a NAME and its not father,son,nor husband. Those are TITLES that I inherit. 3 TITLES under "ONE NAME". You're not comprehending that one word,"NAME."
ImHeavenlyOPERATED 1 year ago
You see this...Now I want people to notice how much of a FOOL Tony smith is. The only one who follows him are those within his goofy ghetto gossip- spineless church. This guy is still trying to down talk Gino with heresay. WHAT A JOKE. What is he? A little loud mouth gossiping school girl is what he is. He's just trying to compesate for being a coward and not answering to the challenge that Gino gave. This is how you conduct yourself tony! Take notes you FOOL!
gregthesenior12 2 years ago 2
I was married before I came into the Church. I filed for divorce from my ex wife because she left me for another man. Years later, when I did come into the Church I received the Holy Ghost, and eventually married my current wife, with the blessing and prayer of our pastor. I wondered, after I heard Pastor Jennings preach on this topic, if I was going to spend eternity in hell for my decision.
blissJesus 2 years ago
@blissJesus....Yes you will go to hell if you continue to stay in your 2nd marriage. The Most High DO NOT HONOR that 2nd marriage you're in. You say you recieve the H.G. now allow the H.G to guide you out of that 2nd marriage. Your 1st wife left,Im sorry,but as long as she lives she IS "YOUR WIFE". That's why when Jesus broke the marriage subject the apostles said,"it's NOT GOOD to marry". Why they said that? Jesus made it clear: two is now ONE FLESH!! Brother,you're BOUND to your 1st wife!!!!
ImHeavenlyOPERATED 1 year ago 4
Except for the cause of adultery. Well, she didn't see the blissJesus as the man...dig?
blissJesus 1 year ago
@blissJesus(pt1)..No sir,"except it be for FORNICATION." Let me explain it. You're married,right? A married person cant commit fornication,but adultery cause that the state,WHEN YOU'RE MARRIED. When you're not married,that's fornication. In Matt.19 Jesus was dealing with the issue of divorce. The Pharisees was trying to test him on that issue and asked him can you "put away"(divorce) the wife 4 every cause(any reason)v.3? Jesus gave them the understanding of "NO" cause he said that man leave
ImHeavenlyOPERATED 1 year ago 4
Well, I guess it's gonna be hell for me cause not only would our children grow up in a broken home, the choice has alresdy been made. Say high to Jesus for this wretch. Peace
blissJesus 1 year ago
@blissJesus You are wrong still but consult God and allow him to lead you and make the decisions for you. I strongly recommend that you go and repent also. God bless
childofGodbrown 1 year ago
@BlissJesus(pt2)..father&mother and CLEAVE to his wife and they TWO shall be "ONE" FLESH(v5)? See,He's breaking down the nature of NO DIVORCE cause he went own to say in v6 that you're NOT TWO no more,but ONE FLESH and what God joined together,let NO MAN put ASUNDER. Your wife CANNOT put ASUNDER in your marriage;no matter what she does. You and her are ONE,BOTTOM LINE. Then at v.7,they wanted to know why Moses commanded a bill of divorce cause when you do that,you're breaking up the ONE and
ImHeavenlyOPERATED 1 year ago 4
@BlissJesus(pt3)...going back to the TWO. Jesus said,"Moses,"that's the KEY WORD,MOSES,b/c of the hardness of your heart,"SUFFERED"(allowed) you but from the BEGINNING it was NOT SO. You see,Moses allowed it cause Jesus said from the BEGINNING it WASNT SO. If something WASNT SO,that means it WAS NOT MEANT TO BE!! Now the Master teacher said,"I say unto you whosoever put away his wife,"EXCEPT IT BE FOR FORNICATION & marry another commit adultery. Let me explain that. In Matt.1:18 it says Mary was
ImHeavenlyOPERATED 1 year ago 4
@BlissJesus(pt4).."ESPOUSED"(engaged)to Joseph. They was NOT MARRIED,but ONLY ENGAGED,but read further in v.19,it says Joseph her "HUSBAND wanted to put her away" cause he thought she cheated on him,but when the angel came and told him the deal,the angel said in v.20,"fear not to take unto thee Mary thy "WIFE"!!! You understand now?? They were ONLY ENGAGED,"BUT" had the "TITLE" of the matter,MARRIGE. That's what Jesus was saying,"EXCEPT it be for FORNICATION". That's when you can leave if she
ImHeavenlyOPERATED 1 year ago 4
@BlissJesus(pt5)...cheated on you "WHILE" you all were "ONLY" ENGAGED,but when you went b4 The Master & said your vows,YOU'RE STUCK,BROTHER!!! Look at Eccles.5:4,"when thou VOWEST a VOW unto God,defer NOT to PAY IT. V.5,"better is it that thou SHOULD NOT VOW,than that thou SHOULD VOW and NOT PAY." Brother,you MUST and WILL respect God's Word if you planned on entering His Kingdom. I'm truly sorry about your situation,but God has spoken and this goes for every married man,including myself.
ImHeavenlyOPERATED 1 y