@burnstagger You think jobs and money grow on trees? LOL yahoo,ebay and your computer was contributed by Indian skilled workers coming here seeking opportunity of free market capitalism. US is losing its competitiveness is because of lazy ass people like you getting subsidize by government food stamps. This destroyed the idea of what they came here for.
@zen5678 No, they are created by Americans, taken over by lazy Indiots. Since I wrote software at Apple and Sony (for PlayStation) and you didn't, I don't think you are in any position to be calling me "lazy ass". The US economy was booming before Indiots came here. I use a Mac and 100% of Apple software is made in USA by Americans. All the other tech companies - the ones run by Indians - are either dead or dying. Indians didn't contribute anything to Apple. Oh wait... Apple is booming.
@burnstagger Indians don't contribute to Apple, my ass and I bet you make facts up from your ass too. They have already set jobs in Bangalore providing 3000 jobs for tech workers. That is why you are able to afford these products otherwise it would be expensive if it was made in AmeriKKKa. And who the fuck cares who invented what like PC and Google, if the people who made them invest and employ into other countries where regulations is limited. The Americans are jobless regardless.
@zen5678 No, I dont make facts up - I used to work at Apple and you didn't. Apple does not have ANY software jobs in Bangalore. Google "Apple software logs out of India". How many Indian presenters did you see at this year's WWDC? ONE I think. LOL. Funny but back when everything was expensive and Americans workers were paid HIGH salaries, the US economy was BOOMING. India is nothing but a job begging thief.
@zen5678 Who cares who invented the PC and the internet? Well the whole world obviously cares. Without American inventions, the would would have nothing and you would all be eating out of mud puddles still. How do you people sleep at night knowing you live off the things stolen from other people? Pathetic. Without America the world would be back in the stone age.
@zen5678 Americans invented PCs and the internet long before Indians ever came to the US. eBay was started by a French dude, Yahoo by 1 American and one Taiwanese dude, and Apple was created by 2 Americans. Google "Apple software logs out of India". Sorry, but you need to learn some history. Every company taken over by Indians has died or is dying. Sun, and Bell Labs both being excellent examples.
@zen5678 America is losing its competitiveness because on millions of faking Indians who are here taking over jobs they can't do. In 1998 when the US economy was run by Americans it was BOOMING - without Indians' help. How did we get along for 506 years without Indians? You didn't start coming here until 1998 and it's been all decline and decay since then.
@burnstagger For a IT worker, you sure fail at basic economics. Back then, America made the best products because they had the best skilled labourers and that was 1950s not 1998. Now, the rest of the world is catching up with those skills and was able to demand lesser wages for these jobs. That is why employers will naturally go for lowest cost/best productivity and outsource. And I never "promised to help keep the US economy going" wtf are you talking about? Stop Sh!ting bullshits.
@zen5678 I have a business degree with a minor in economics from St. Mary's College of CA, one of the most prestigious colleges in CA. You don't. I think I know more about it than you do. I also write software for Apple and Sony and you didn't. In fact, you've probably never accomplished anything in your life. In 1998 no one in the world could compete with US in IT. From 1978-1998 IT was 98% white American males. 1950s my ass.
@zen5678 Look up the demographics. From 1978-1998 IT was 98% white American males. This is a fact. That ended in 1999 when delusional Asian job beggars and industrial thieves came to the US and robbed us blind. You could compete in IT before WE trained you. LOL. How quickly you are to dismiss recent history to suit your needs. The rest of the world is not catching up, only robbing.
@zen5678 Cost-cutting is a sign of a company in trouble. When asked why Apple doesn't offshore software, Steve Jobs replied "That would be shortsighted - take care of your top line first - your people and your products and the bottom line will take care of itself". All the companies who cut costs and went for cheap labor are dead or dying - Sun, Bell Labs, now Mi-cro-soft. Pay peanuts, you get monkeys as the Chinese say. LOL.
@zen5678 Best productivity? What would that be a long list of US companies that went under at the hands of Indians including Citi, CountryWide, Sun, Bell Labs, etc? Productivity like that? You're right that is SO good for consumers - to destroy lots of jobs and cause unemployment.
@zen5678 You're probably too young to remember 1998 - when the US was booming and NASSCOM flooded the US media with stories saying "Don't worry we will help you keep your economy booming. Let us help you, etc etc". Most Amercans have short memories but I don't. Stop the lies and propaganda.
@zen5678 BTW, there are very few Japanese immigrants in Silicon valley. I know I lived and worked there for 16 years. It's ALL Indians and Chinese. The Japanese unlike India and China actually invent things (such as the CD). So stop the lies.
@burnstagger Sorry i don't argue with bullshitters who tries to deny what they said in the past. QQ more b!tch because no one cares. We only care about innovators and hard workers not someone who cries on youtube all day. If you are so successful why you are complaining on youtube? Keep trying, you might become a man someday.
@zen5678 In 1998 when Americans ran the US economy America had no competition. Not until we brought in faking wannabe losers like you whom we TAUGHT how to do what we created. Back then you "promised to help keep the US economy going". Why have you failed to do so? You're running everything in USA now, so why is the economy in the toilet? You're all huge failures and everyone can see it.
@burnstagger Not just Indians, it also is Chinese, Japanese and most of Asia. If you want to bring back prosperity you have to be competitive or accept lower wages. Your government needs to step back and repel all these retarded regulations that is pushing back innovators and job creators.
The real problem is companies in the U.S. dont want to invest in the workforce, even though our education system still does most of the work to getting people through the K-12. NAFTA & other FTAs made the pull to outsource/offshore more alluring, especially when the countries where these jobs are going have no Unions, no OSHA, no worker's comp, no regulations to protect workers from harm in the workplace.
So U.S. companies WILL NOT TRAIN their American workers...not at all.
The H-1B work visa is fundamentally about cheap labor. Though the tech industry lobbyists portray H-1B as a remedy for labor shortages and as a means of hiring "the best and the brightest" from around the world (which I strongly support), the vast majority are ordinary people doing ordinary work. Porky got rich on loopholes! Do not need a PHD to to that, any garden variety crook could do the same.
"Indians beamed with pride last year when the Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced it had selected the subcontinent as the home for its first Media Lab in Asia.
...
Alas, the dream collapsed in New Delhi in early May. MIT announced it was withdrawing from the project, following a private meeting between MIT professor/author Nicholas Negroponte and Arun Shourie, India's new Information Technology & Communications Minister."
indians lack creativity. they think by studying for hours on end without actually understanding the material, they can do great things. the indian education system absolutely discourages the use of the right hemisphere.
and I wondered if fluoridemakesu Deaf as well as Dumb. I can see it has done both to you. I am an Indian and Wadhva has clearly Stated that the education system is WEAK and POLITICIZED. BUT In spite of that the use of the R Hemisphere ( I am left handed so your right ...but actually Mr Igno - Just FYI ...its the left Hemisphere in Right handed folks ) He did not expand on POLITICIZATION , but essentially - to get free education you have to belong to a certain lower caste, lower trib
Indiasucksalways: on H1b and outscoursing I agree with you, but stop abusing India for everything e.g. the lunar mission etc. for more read my about me section in my profile.
Intel's Xeon chip kill is result of chaos in India
By Ashlee Vance in Mountain View
Friday 28th October 2005
"While stunning in its own right, Intel's cancellation this week of the multicore "Whitefield" processor stands as a more significant miscue that simply excising a chip from a roadmap. Whitfield's disappearance is a blow to India's growing IT endeavors."
Vivek addresses many important issues however there is a glaring lack of scrutiny to the impact on the American workers displaced here by foreign workers coming to the USA.
An analogy would be the flood of illegals coming from Mexico. One could argue that 7-10 million jobs were created.
You might consider this a positive development if you do not consider the displacement and infrastructure burdens.
Keep working Vivek, the truth will come to you eventually.
Google "Elite Asian students cheat like mad on US college applications".
burnstagger 1 month ago
The only reason the US is losing its competitiveness is that we are bringing in foreign workers and training them.
burnstagger 4 months ago
@burnstagger You think jobs and money grow on trees? LOL yahoo,ebay and your computer was contributed by Indian skilled workers coming here seeking opportunity of free market capitalism. US is losing its competitiveness is because of lazy ass people like you getting subsidize by government food stamps. This destroyed the idea of what they came here for.
zen5678 1 month ago
@zen5678 No, they are created by Americans, taken over by lazy Indiots. Since I wrote software at Apple and Sony (for PlayStation) and you didn't, I don't think you are in any position to be calling me "lazy ass". The US economy was booming before Indiots came here. I use a Mac and 100% of Apple software is made in USA by Americans. All the other tech companies - the ones run by Indians - are either dead or dying. Indians didn't contribute anything to Apple. Oh wait... Apple is booming.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@burnstagger Indians don't contribute to Apple, my ass and I bet you make facts up from your ass too. They have already set jobs in Bangalore providing 3000 jobs for tech workers. That is why you are able to afford these products otherwise it would be expensive if it was made in AmeriKKKa. And who the fuck cares who invented what like PC and Google, if the people who made them invest and employ into other countries where regulations is limited. The Americans are jobless regardless.
zen5678 1 month ago
@zen5678 No, I dont make facts up - I used to work at Apple and you didn't. Apple does not have ANY software jobs in Bangalore. Google "Apple software logs out of India". How many Indian presenters did you see at this year's WWDC? ONE I think. LOL. Funny but back when everything was expensive and Americans workers were paid HIGH salaries, the US economy was BOOMING. India is nothing but a job begging thief.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@zen5678 Who cares who invented the PC and the internet? Well the whole world obviously cares. Without American inventions, the would would have nothing and you would all be eating out of mud puddles still. How do you people sleep at night knowing you live off the things stolen from other people? Pathetic. Without America the world would be back in the stone age.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@zen5678 Americans invented PCs and the internet long before Indians ever came to the US. eBay was started by a French dude, Yahoo by 1 American and one Taiwanese dude, and Apple was created by 2 Americans. Google "Apple software logs out of India". Sorry, but you need to learn some history. Every company taken over by Indians has died or is dying. Sun, and Bell Labs both being excellent examples.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@zen5678 America is losing its competitiveness because on millions of faking Indians who are here taking over jobs they can't do. In 1998 when the US economy was run by Americans it was BOOMING - without Indians' help. How did we get along for 506 years without Indians? You didn't start coming here until 1998 and it's been all decline and decay since then.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@burnstagger For a IT worker, you sure fail at basic economics. Back then, America made the best products because they had the best skilled labourers and that was 1950s not 1998. Now, the rest of the world is catching up with those skills and was able to demand lesser wages for these jobs. That is why employers will naturally go for lowest cost/best productivity and outsource. And I never "promised to help keep the US economy going" wtf are you talking about? Stop Sh!ting bullshits.
zen5678 1 month ago
@zen5678 I have a business degree with a minor in economics from St. Mary's College of CA, one of the most prestigious colleges in CA. You don't. I think I know more about it than you do. I also write software for Apple and Sony and you didn't. In fact, you've probably never accomplished anything in your life. In 1998 no one in the world could compete with US in IT. From 1978-1998 IT was 98% white American males. 1950s my ass.
burnstagger 1 month ago
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zen5678 1 month ago
@zen5678 Look up the demographics. From 1978-1998 IT was 98% white American males. This is a fact. That ended in 1999 when delusional Asian job beggars and industrial thieves came to the US and robbed us blind. You could compete in IT before WE trained you. LOL. How quickly you are to dismiss recent history to suit your needs. The rest of the world is not catching up, only robbing.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@zen5678 Cost-cutting is a sign of a company in trouble. When asked why Apple doesn't offshore software, Steve Jobs replied "That would be shortsighted - take care of your top line first - your people and your products and the bottom line will take care of itself". All the companies who cut costs and went for cheap labor are dead or dying - Sun, Bell Labs, now Mi-cro-soft. Pay peanuts, you get monkeys as the Chinese say. LOL.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@zen5678 Best productivity? What would that be a long list of US companies that went under at the hands of Indians including Citi, CountryWide, Sun, Bell Labs, etc? Productivity like that? You're right that is SO good for consumers - to destroy lots of jobs and cause unemployment.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@zen5678 You're probably too young to remember 1998 - when the US was booming and NASSCOM flooded the US media with stories saying "Don't worry we will help you keep your economy booming. Let us help you, etc etc". Most Amercans have short memories but I don't. Stop the lies and propaganda.
burnstagger 1 month ago
@zen5678 BTW, there are very few Japanese immigrants in Silicon valley. I know I lived and worked there for 16 years. It's ALL Indians and Chinese. The Japanese unlike India and China actually invent things (such as the CD). So stop the lies.
burnstagger 1 month ago
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@burnstagger Sorry i don't argue with bullshitters who tries to deny what they said in the past. QQ more b!tch because no one cares. We only care about innovators and hard workers not someone who cries on youtube all day. If you are so successful why you are complaining on youtube? Keep trying, you might become a man someday.
zen5678 1 month ago
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zen5678 1 month ago
@zen5678 In 1998 when Americans ran the US economy America had no competition. Not until we brought in faking wannabe losers like you whom we TAUGHT how to do what we created. Back then you "promised to help keep the US economy going". Why have you failed to do so? You're running everything in USA now, so why is the economy in the toilet? You're all huge failures and everyone can see it.
burnstagger 1 month ago
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@burnstagger Not just Indians, it also is Chinese, Japanese and most of Asia. If you want to bring back prosperity you have to be competitive or accept lower wages. Your government needs to step back and repel all these retarded regulations that is pushing back innovators and job creators.
zen5678 1 month ago
This fraud needs to be deported. He is being paid by NASSCOM.
burnstagger 4 months ago
The real problem is companies in the U.S. dont want to invest in the workforce, even though our education system still does most of the work to getting people through the K-12. NAFTA & other FTAs made the pull to outsource/offshore more alluring, especially when the countries where these jobs are going have no Unions, no OSHA, no worker's comp, no regulations to protect workers from harm in the workplace.
So U.S. companies WILL NOT TRAIN their American workers...not at all.
willia3r 5 months ago
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Great article on Pure Science education in India: globiansperspective.blogspot.com
Inclusionofall 11 months ago
The H-1B work visa is fundamentally about cheap labor. Though the tech industry lobbyists portray H-1B as a remedy for labor shortages and as a means of hiring "the best and the brightest" from around the world (which I strongly support), the vast majority are ordinary people doing ordinary work. Porky got rich on loopholes! Do not need a PHD to to that, any garden variety crook could do the same.
AmericanMale1953 1 year ago
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AmericanMale1953 1 year ago
Wadhwa is a TWICE FAILED "entrepreneur who had to flee to academia because he couldn't make it in the tech world. His words are pure propaganda.
burnstagger 1 year ago
this is all bogus research.
mainafra 1 year ago
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relaxedmoody 2 years ago
"Indians beamed with pride last year when the Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced it had selected the subcontinent as the home for its first Media Lab in Asia.
...
Alas, the dream collapsed in New Delhi in early May. MIT announced it was withdrawing from the project, following a private meeting between MIT professor/author Nicholas Negroponte and Arun Shourie, India's new Information Technology & Communications Minister."
indiasucksalways 2 years ago
i am indian and i agree with you.
indians lack creativity. they think by studying for hours on end without actually understanding the material, they can do great things. the indian education system absolutely discourages the use of the right hemisphere.
fluoridemakesudumb 2 years ago
and I wondered if fluoridemakesu Deaf as well as Dumb. I can see it has done both to you. I am an Indian and Wadhva has clearly Stated that the education system is WEAK and POLITICIZED. BUT In spite of that the use of the R Hemisphere ( I am left handed so your right ...but actually Mr Igno - Just FYI ...its the left Hemisphere in Right handed folks ) He did not expand on POLITICIZATION , but essentially - to get free education you have to belong to a certain lower caste, lower trib
pakichuda 2 years ago
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IdoCareForPeople 7 months ago
Indiasucksalways: on H1b and outscoursing I agree with you, but stop abusing India for everything e.g. the lunar mission etc. for more read my about me section in my profile.
saikiran1711 2 years ago
Intel's Xeon chip kill is result of chaos in India
By Ashlee Vance in Mountain View
Friday 28th October 2005
"While stunning in its own right, Intel's cancellation this week of the multicore "Whitefield" processor stands as a more significant miscue that simply excising a chip from a roadmap. Whitfield's disappearance is a blow to India's growing IT endeavors."
indiasucksalways 2 years ago
@indiasucksalways I like chaos in India! More More More!
AmericanMale1953 1 year ago
Vivek addresses many important issues however there is a glaring lack of scrutiny to the impact on the American workers displaced here by foreign workers coming to the USA.
An analogy would be the flood of illegals coming from Mexico. One could argue that 7-10 million jobs were created.
You might consider this a positive development if you do not consider the displacement and infrastructure burdens.
Keep working Vivek, the truth will come to you eventually.
AmericaAndAllies 3 years ago