@1fightforright23 Thank you, but I have yet to learn a good formula. There are other members in our FaceBook group that produce their own. If you join us there, perhaps you can befriend some and obtain good quality liniment. The link to our page is in my channel.
How do you avoid the heart problems though from the iron palm? I'd prefer to train the fist mostly and just a few reps on the palms. And by the way, your blog rocks!
@culbriz Thank you for your kind words about the blog. But I wish I have more time for it so I could do better. As to safety in training, the ample use of dit da jow is a must. Beginners should hit the training target like they are just dropping their hands, no unnecessary force applied. My guide was the feeling of pain. If I felt the slightest pain, especially at the fingers, it's too much. Same thing with the fists. Massage the hands thereafter.
@culbriz The hands, and feet, are where blood circulation makes a round trip back to the heart. There should be no tightness in the form of inflammation or blood clots which can constrict the blood flow and impede circulation. That is why dit da jow is necessary as it prevents inflammation and blood clots as well as aid in the healing of micro-injuries. Instead of dotting with my fingers, I did finger extension exercises with a hanging bag. I also played with exerballs after practice.
@Rammstein8814. I can only share the little that I know. It's at the reader's discretion and sole risk what to do about it. I can't recommend your ideas though. If you care to investigate further, I think a legitimate Chinese herbalist should be able to discuss the merits of dit-da-jow more fully.
The hitting part of the iron palm training that I know is not about growing bones or tissues. It's about making them more resistant to impact.
When u want to let bones grow and i think that is about here.
To build massive hammer like hands. Then you should take human grow hormone after training, that heals your skin faster and your bone will become more stronger. dit-da-jow does nothing more then a better blood circulating, you can have the same effect when u drink alkohol or when u put ur hands in cold water.
@Rammstein8814 There are literally hundreds of different Jow formula utilized by chinese boxers. Each formula with have herbs that are specific to the training they support. Also some schools will utilize Jiu or tonics. A popular herb for MA is Lu Rong which not only strengthens the sinews and bones but is very high in testosterone. There is a several 1000yr history to Chinese herb use.
@toishanma Never on cold water!. Cold closes the pores and impedes circulation. It negates the reason why we have to apply dit da jow by briskly rubbing the liniment on the skin.
@Rammstein8814 A lot of people, not only those from the Chinese martial arts community, believe in the use of dit-da-jow. This bone-setting liniment can be useful not only to Chinese stylists but also to other martial artists as it promotes blood circulation and the healing of tissues.
Training systems may differ but, basically, the healing of micro-injuries due to impact strengthens the tissues. It is a natural reaction which translates to the training effect.
@L9hfighter...Perhaps, but it is better to apply the liniment liberally and try to rub it briskly on the skin. Immersion in a jar of dit da jow is the best, if you have that much supply. The idea is to let the liniment be absorbed through the pores.
@3ch056 My source, in Manila, is the Hung Fut school. I think you can buy online thru Amazon, Superior Martial Arts Supplies, Wing Lam and other reputable sources.
like the vids !! realy cool would you be able to tell us how you make dit da jow?
1fightforright23 2 weeks ago
@1fightforright23 Thank you, but I have yet to learn a good formula. There are other members in our FaceBook group that produce their own. If you join us there, perhaps you can befriend some and obtain good quality liniment. The link to our page is in my channel.
brodan48 2 weeks ago
thanks for this from melbourne australia
MrJasonBkn 8 months ago
How do you avoid the heart problems though from the iron palm? I'd prefer to train the fist mostly and just a few reps on the palms. And by the way, your blog rocks!
culbriz 10 months ago
@culbriz Thank you for your kind words about the blog. But I wish I have more time for it so I could do better. As to safety in training, the ample use of dit da jow is a must. Beginners should hit the training target like they are just dropping their hands, no unnecessary force applied. My guide was the feeling of pain. If I felt the slightest pain, especially at the fingers, it's too much. Same thing with the fists. Massage the hands thereafter.
brodan48 10 months ago
@culbriz The hands, and feet, are where blood circulation makes a round trip back to the heart. There should be no tightness in the form of inflammation or blood clots which can constrict the blood flow and impede circulation. That is why dit da jow is necessary as it prevents inflammation and blood clots as well as aid in the healing of micro-injuries. Instead of dotting with my fingers, I did finger extension exercises with a hanging bag. I also played with exerballs after practice.
brodan48 10 months ago
@Rammstein8814. I can only share the little that I know. It's at the reader's discretion and sole risk what to do about it. I can't recommend your ideas though. If you care to investigate further, I think a legitimate Chinese herbalist should be able to discuss the merits of dit-da-jow more fully.
The hitting part of the iron palm training that I know is not about growing bones or tissues. It's about making them more resistant to impact.
It's okay, I understand your concern. Thanks.
brodan48 1 year ago
When u want to let bones grow and i think that is about here.
To build massive hammer like hands. Then you should take human grow hormone after training, that heals your skin faster and your bone will become more stronger. dit-da-jow does nothing more then a better blood circulating, you can have the same effect when u drink alkohol or when u put ur hands in cold water.
Rammstein8814 1 year ago
@Rammstein8814 There are literally hundreds of different Jow formula utilized by chinese boxers. Each formula with have herbs that are specific to the training they support. Also some schools will utilize Jiu or tonics. A popular herb for MA is Lu Rong which not only strengthens the sinews and bones but is very high in testosterone. There is a several 1000yr history to Chinese herb use.
IP training should not disfigure your hands.
yongchunwales 10 months ago
@Rammstein8814
in the chinese kungfu culture, it's always the restriction and Not-to-Do putting your hands in cold water after
hand training, never ever do that !!!! You've your reason and if you prefer that, do it at your own accord.
toishanma 9 months ago
@toishanma Never on cold water!. Cold closes the pores and impedes circulation. It negates the reason why we have to apply dit da jow by briskly rubbing the liniment on the skin.
brodan48 8 months ago
@Rammstein8814 A lot of people, not only those from the Chinese martial arts community, believe in the use of dit-da-jow. This bone-setting liniment can be useful not only to Chinese stylists but also to other martial artists as it promotes blood circulation and the healing of tissues.
Training systems may differ but, basically, the healing of micro-injuries due to impact strengthens the tissues. It is a natural reaction which translates to the training effect.
brodan48 1 year ago
Thank you too. Don't subject your liniment to heat as it could adversely affect the herbal ingredients in the liniment.
brodan48 1 year ago
thank you very much for your post. few videos in youtube are useful. I also have a question: isn't it supposed to be hot for conditioning?
thank you!
lympheneas 1 year ago
Hello Brodan48
Do you think it is ok to use a spray bottle to apply the dit da jow?
L9hfighter 1 year ago
@L9hfighter...Perhaps, but it is better to apply the liniment liberally and try to rub it briskly on the skin. Immersion in a jar of dit da jow is the best, if you have that much supply. The idea is to let the liniment be absorbed through the pores.
brodan48 1 year ago
Where or how did you get that Dit Da Jow???
3ch056 1 year ago
@3ch056 My source, in Manila, is the Hung Fut school. I think you can buy online thru Amazon, Superior Martial Arts Supplies, Wing Lam and other reputable sources.
brodan48 1 year ago
@brodan48 Thank you!! :D
3ch056 1 year ago
@3ch056 You can go to littlenineheaven com and buy some there to
L9hfighter 1 year ago
@3ch056 buy it off ebay, because i dont think they sell dit da jow on amazon, last time i checked it wasnt there, so over ebay is best
KGX16 1 year ago