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  • How are people able to do this with paint brushes?

  • OHHHH!!

  • @TheColeDawg do you print the penciled image straight onto the bristol board?

  • Tune. Nice work

  • ColeDawg - When you make a mistake, do you use white FW ink or regular Liquid Paper? Which is better?

  • Oh man, I thought he was doing all of this without a sketch. Watched it a second time and was less amazed, but still pretty hot.

  • I've seen this vid so many times,it's still blows me away,true skills,great choice of music,got me listing to Robert Miles,and inking with a brush,amazing,thanks Cole you da man,

  • hmmm...always had problem with inking after sketching.

    I don't have light table,and removing pencil lines in photoshop.But I see U got another way....This blue sketch is something new...

  • Damnz, that is pro.

  • @LolVermillion Thanks! :D

  • @LolVermillion Is inking difficult? Because people say its just tracing, what's your take on that?

  • @LolVermillion To me its difficult because its not just tracing, you have to incorporate line weight, and that's friggin hard to some people.

  • @LolVermillion It's difficult in a few ways. One is deciding the best method for getting depth within a piece while maintaining a balance of line weights throughout the entire page and book. That gets tricky. Another is when you have pencils to work over that are merely sketches. Those are sometimes fun, because you have a lot more control over the final outcome of the piece, but when you're under a tight deadline... not so fun. And of course, mastering either the brush, quill, or both. :)

  • If you notice he doesn't the guys cheek gets smudged. But this can easily be corrected digitally or with whiteout ink.

  • @Epochofeno Very true on all account, good sir. :)

  • do you ink right on the original drawings? how do you get over your fear of messing up inking?

  • @ookaninam2013 Not usually, though if you work for Marvel, DC, etc, you'll be inking right on the pencils. That will get a little intimidating until you get over that worry of screwing things up. I generally make a non-photo blue print of the original pencils (which are usually scanned and emailed to me) and then go to work on that. You can miss some details in the lighter print which is why I try to always have a normal print of the work beside me at all times for reference.

  • @TheColeDawg this has been really helpful! not sure why i haven't thought of that. thank you so much!

  • does anyone know the name of the song?

    Awesome work, very inspiring :D

  • @yarmamzer Robert Miles: Children, and thanks for the compliment.  :)

  • why the heck would 5 people dislike this?? this vid is AWSOME!

  • @Diego1999ist Haters gonna hate. HA! I never thought I'd type that sentence in my lifetime. :D And thanks. :)

  • Great video, how long did you take to become that good at brush? Was I difficult or pretty simple?

  • @Novabikes 2 to 3 years for the brush control (and I'm still learning), and the difficulty level varied a bit from piece to piece. For instance, my inking style works well over a more cartoony drawing style (like J. Scott Campbell), but takes 30 times longer over someone really loose and/or rough (like John Romita Jr.). I'd suggest inking over as many styles as possible though. Even if you don't like it as much as another style, you learn a whole lot in attempting difficult pencils.

  • Great video how long did you take to master brush inking?

  • @Novabikes It took me somewhere between 2 to 3 years to get the lines I liked, and then another couple of years to learn what theory I have about the inks (passed along to me by some pretty generous pros). Some people take to it quickly while others take a much longer time. Anyone wanting to do this has to put in the hours, but if you love it then you should do it. :)

  • Comic book art today looks like a cartoon drawing.

  • @76ComicFan That all depends on the artist, but this style was definitely popular for quite a while. I've always enjoyed it since I am a pretty big cartoon fan. heh. :)

  • do you print out blue ink on it to ink it or what

  • Man, it took you forever to finish inking that face, considering the video was sped up a little. That makes me feel a little better about how quickly I ink my panels. I've been using Micron pens, but I've been gradually craving the line value that only brushes can give you.

  • @DerekDragomir Yeah. I'm an extremely slow inker. I've recently picked up my brush again and will be working on getting faster. Quality is always top priority, but meeting deadlines is pretty important too. ;) And I think you'll love the brush once you master it. :) Or maybe even the quill. I'm horrible with a quill, but it's extremely popular among inkers.

  • THAT WAS AMAZING!

  • @Diego1999ist Thanks! Sorry it took me three months to reply to your compliment though. heh. :)

  • Wow. And you did all that with a brush. Man that's awesome.

  • @MDthornton83 Thanks! :D Yeah... I love the brush for inking.  Just works well for me. :)

  • Just curious what kind of brush do you use, not many people ink like this anymore.

  • @Dalen77 I use a Winsor Newton Series 7 finest sable number 3. And you'd be surprised how many people ink with a brush. :) It's still one of the most used tools in the industry (that and nibs).

  • Just curious what kind of brush do you use, not many people ink like this anymore.

  • Does the 'Strathmore 300 *smooth*' bleed any when using pen or markers??? I have some Blue Line pro boards (regular) and notice it bleeds like crazy! Bright white 96 Premium copy paper from Office Depot retains ink better than the 'regular' boards. I also notice that Higgins india ink looks much darker and better on the copy paper. I was thinking about buying Strathmore 300 smooth with Higgins Black Magic...

  • @Edel99 It doesn't bleed much for me. I haven't used the Blue Line Pro stuff in ages because it was horrible 10 years ago when I last touched it. Hopefully the Strathmore 300 smooth will work better for you. Most inks will look darker on white copy paper since the ink is saturating the entire sheet and not just the top layer. That makes it harder to ink because the paper will warp and that makes for a real dud of a finished product. Hope that helps. :)

  • @TheColeDawg Actually, I'm using 20lb 96 brightness *Premium Office Depot brand. You would think the ink saturates the paper but it doesn't!! I'm using Higgins Black India. I've even brushes it on and it only stays on the top layer. Give it a try!!! You'll be suprised and you'l save lots of money! Hell, in the end, everything ends up being scanned into the computer!

  • @Edel99 It's not saturating the paper? That's interesting. Never seen that not happen before. I might toy around with that sometime, though I do love the feel I get from thicker board. Wish I would have read this post before replying to your later post. lol.

  • @TheColeDawg Respond to this video... lol. ok... Now I see this is a new post. Man... I'm slipping these days.  lol.

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  • Old School!! I love it!!

  • @goofyartist Thanks! :D

  • After I finish a graphic novel with a pencil and give it to the publishers, do they ink it? I'm just curious

  • @Carranza100 It depends on the company. Marvel, DC, etc. (the big guys) almost always have an inker assigned to the penciler. Once the editor approves the pencils, he/she then sends the inks to the inker. When the inks are approved, they send them to the the colorist, etc., etc. Some comics don't get inked these days because the editor wants that style (meaning that the penciler has to work a bit harder in some cases since the pencils have to be to a very finished level).

  • @TheColeDawg Oh ok thanks, I decided to make a black and white graphic novel, since its faster.... one more question though, what kind of paper do you have to use when drawing a graphic novel, because I'm worried that the publishers might make me do the whole novel again in a different paper, because the ink might go through the front paper and mess up the drawings from the back of the paper, just worried :(

  • @Carranza100 I'd suggest either a bristol board 300 series smooth paper (like the one I'm using in the video) or going through blueline pro and getting their comic book pages. Either should work, but the blueline pro will have all the markings for cropping area, and also be at the right size (the bristol board has to be cut down a bit to be 11" x 17" since it comes as 14" x 17").

  • @TheColeDawg Sweet :), you know your stuff in graphic novels.... sorry to bother you again, but one more question and this will be the last time I will ask you... If my graphic novel become popular in the U.S. in the near future, I could actually create both Video game and Animation of it, Right?! (Because I saw a video game and the animation off of a graphic novel "Ex: Scott Pilgrim".........Just need to know if its possible?

  • @Carranza100 Sorry for the long wait on my reply. To answer your question, it is very possible to make a video game, movie, etc from a popular comic. But do keep in mind that it's also extremely rare and difficult as well. After all, Spider-Man is one of the most popular characters in all of comic book history, and his first video game didn't happen until 16 years after his first appearance in comics, and his first movie didn't happen until 40 years after his creation. But it can happen.

  • @TheColeDawg Wow! Thanks, You sir had inspire me to become a Graphic Novelist (when I grow older, thou...), I dont really care if I have to wait for years to make one of my works into a video game or movie (including animation) as long as I know that I could make it possible :) Look out world the "Adrift" series is com'in for ya!!! (already ahead, need to look for a perfect college for my work...)

  • Oh boy... I have so neglected this old page... So many people with questions that have probably had a couple of birthdays go by with no response. 0_o` Sorry everyone.

  • Does the ink goes through the paper? Like after you finish inking the front part of the comic, does the back part have leftover ink marks?

  • @Carranza100 Only if I REALLY poor on a ton of ink, but very very rarely. The paper I use is pretty thick stuff so the ink won't bleed everywhere. That also makes it pretty hard for the ink to go through it.

  • @TheColeDawg Thanks :)

  • Impressive

    great song

  • @Hermann759 Thanks. :)

  • What type of brush is that? it seems stiff.

  • @SoraSlipheed A Winsor Newton series 7 finest sable number 3. Thinking about going back to a number 2 though since I haven't inked in a while and feel like it might help me achieve smaller lines.

  • Great video man, I've just designed a load of logos and need to ink them in. Might try paint rather than the fine-liner I have, thinking it would be great for all the smooth curves on letters and decorative swirls! What sort of inks would you recommend?

    Thanks again & keep up the great work!

  • @grimaldi360 I like using FW ink, but that's not to say it's the best. Some inkers even mix a few inks to get the right density out of it for what they want.

  • Ugh, do you ever mess up? Usually when I ink my art, I get to where I am almost finished, and then... brush my arm across the ink, and viola~ The drawing is ruined!

  • @KatiTesamaru Oh, I mess up plenty! That's why I also use white ink to touch up some of my mistakes. ^__~

  • I wish I could do that. Great job!

  • @Ivooosek Thanks! And maybe you can do this too. ^__^ All it takes is a few years of practice. I had to practice for a few years before I was even remotely usable.

  • Wow awesome

  • @edelart Thanks!  :D

  • what kind of paint brushes do you use?

  • @ihateviolence39 A Winsor Newton series 7 finest sable number 3.

  • wow is a beautiful draw!!

    what number of brush did you use for this draw? 2?

    please answer :)

  • @uapame A number 3 actually, but I used to use the number 2 size all the time.

  • This is how good inking is done, with a brush.

  • @mitrooper That's what works for me at least. :)

  • What brush did you use??

  • @alex0219fly A Winsor Newton series 7 finest sable number 3.

  • wow! i can't even begin to control ink with a brush, you have my admiration <3

  • @bondifery Thank you! :D

  • beautiful precise line, but i dont think its the right use of a brush.

    you have jeff smith, in a straight, precise and, more important, ALIVE line. Also, sweat so much for a micro line, like we have here, streches the work to forever. it seems impracticable to me. Or im wrong?

    how long U take to ink one page?

  • @ManelRuivo I'd like to think my line work is a bit "alive", but nobody's perfect. However, the smaller / thinner lines are actually the most fun for me, so I don't mind taking some extra time on them. And lastly, I am NOT a fast inker by any stretch of the imagination. It's what kept me from excepting a job from marvel. I simply didn't want to get fired for being late because it takes me forever to ink a page. In hindsight, I should have ignored that thought. lol.

  • My hand has the tendency to shake a lot when I try to ink really small lines. Will this go away as I grow in confidence & practice, or should I quite while I'm ahead?

  • @TwigDjango It will to an extent... I had to cut back on Mountain Dew...

  • dude, i have exactly the same materials you use and someday hope to get the awesomeness out of them, like you so breathtakingly demonstrated in this video.

  • @Holygiant I am honored you feel that way. :) Thanks, and good luck! :D

  • lol this vid had me rotating my head like a dog every 5 seconds

  • @csgeorgemanhl lol. Sorry about that. I tend to rotate the picture a LOT when I ink. :)

  • Those who complain about the paper being rotated over and over has never tried inking.

  • @markrosario75 Lol. Precisely. But I can see where it would be annoying for those not in the know as well. Still...  Not sure I can ink a page without rotating it. lol.

  • great!

    Actually i had no idea of how much time it takes to ink a face with a brush. I draw and illustrate, but i never did comics and i'm not that skilled with an inkbrush. O_O

  • @DesignKiller76 A lot of inkers are actually quite a bit faster than me, so I really shouldn't be used as the standard for inking speed. I really need to change that about my current abilities... =P

  • this guy was a huge influence on me, and one of the reasons i ink with a brush

  • @Skeliton920 I am deeply honored. Thank you. :)

  • amazing!!!what kind of tools r u using

    u know like typr of ink paper and brush?

  • @larebabysaiyan I use a Winsor Newton Series 7 finest sable #3 brush. The ink I use is an FW black and FW white ink. The paper is a 300 series Strathmore Bristol board. Glad you enjoyed the video! :D

  • man, you look like you could a GTA comic with that art!!!!!!!!!!

  • @TheGameRanter Terrell Bobbett is the one to thank for the style, and I bet he would draw an awesome GTA comic.  :)

  • Love it just got into drawing comics myself any recommendations??

  • @ColtartX Draw EVERYTHING!!! I know, I know, it's what everyone says, but it's vital. That, and if you're going to be a penciler, learn some tricks of the trade about making films. Trust me. Knowing how to use camera angles and lead the eye from panel to panel is tremendously important.

  • What type of brush is that? I'm guessing that brush pens cannot even approach that level of control.

  • @Maxpound It's a Winsor Newton series 7 finest sable number 3. Yeah... I have yet to find a brush pen that comes even remotely close to being able to do what the real brush can do. It'd be nice though. :)

  • awesome, can you draw manga aswell?

  • @0selk0 A little... I tend to ink better though.

  • Those ink pens would be awsome to use in a graffiti drawing since you can make solid black areas and unlike markers or color pencils the area wont look sketchy

  • @m1k3ismike Sadly, they tend to bleed a lot. It's hard to control the amount of ink that's flowing out of them, which causes some major problems when trying to get super smooth line work.

  • could you please stop rotating the paper when you make a video. its very annoying.

    but you have good drawing skills.

  • @owendagangsta Sorry. It's how I work. I can understand how it can be annoying though.

  • Excellent song, i've always liked it. Great artist too!

  • @Nihility000 Thanks! I've always liked that song too. :D

  • i am looking for a comic book writer!!! send a message to my channel.....

  • @maxangelos00 Sorry. I definitely do not have a writing talent. Thanks all the same. :)

  • I have a question... What do you do if you make a mistake? Tip-ex it? Or is that what the white ink was for?

  • @jlel Good ol' white ink does the trick nicely. Well... unless I somehow dump a whole bottle of ink on the page... Then I'm in trouble...

  • where dis you learn?!

  • @Wachusay In a studio that no longer exists in NYC. I was blessed to work along side some great pencilers who took the time to tell me what they wanted in their inks. The most famous of which would be Nelson Blake (currently working on Witchblade last I knew). Check out his stuff if you get a chance. You won't be disappointed. :)

  • @TheColeDawg

    Wow, i wish i new some artist i could do an apprenticeship with like that. i Im studying illustration in my college now, but i really am into comics and drawing them. The only thing is im not much of a story man. But i would really love to get some work.

    THIS is a very good job, dont ever stop!

  • winsor and newton is a very expensive brushe for a num #3 30 bucks..i use mine carfullt not to damge it..thank god the queen requested such a fine brush...

  • @MrSketchtastic Try going to Dick Blick's art supply store. I can order a Winsor Newton series 7 finest sable number 3 for about $15.00.

  • That looks great! Can you tell me what you use to make the lines for the panel? Thanks!

  • @wa11z I use a micron pen. Usually a size 1. I beef it up a bit when needed, but the size one is pretty solid for width.

  • can you make another video ? pls

  • @djmoarte Lol. I'd love to, but I need to 1. Practice up a bit so I don't look like some washed up hasbeen... which... in some ways I am... lol.

    and 2..... I need to get my hands on a camera. lol.

  • INK? type

  • @daynee3 FW ink. Works for me, but I'd suggest experimenting as well. :)

  • Very nice clean work. Looks great! Thanks for making the video. It has been awhile since I have listened to Robert Miles as well! All around good stuff! Peace-NickZ. :)

  • @nickzucc Thanks, and it was a great pleasure to share it with everyone. :D I'm really glad people have enjoyed it so much. :D

  • is it worthwhile using a light box to sketch detail over a rough comic concept, prior to inking? or do comic artists just draw flat out with no rough for reference and no light box??

  • @benjibandido I'd have to say that most use light boxes, and I'd agree with using them. Especially for speeding up things while trying to keep the looseness from a layout sketch.

  • awesome.... how long do you make whole comics?

  • @Pucflek111 Oh boy... umm... long enough where I'd get fired if i tried to do a whole comic... lol. I'm MEGA slow.

  • Is Bristol board expensive?

  • Depends on where you get it from if you want the good stuff it's gonna cost you. But if you just want to start out and fiddle around you can get some for cheap at Wal-Mart.

  • @DutchessPepper I'd strongly suggest spending the money to get the good paper though. Mainly for 2 reasons.

    1. You'll never really know how good your line is until it's on the good stuff. (learned that the hard way)

    2. Some people get caught up in some kind of anxiety about the transition into inking on the good stuff when they've only inked on cheap paper prior. Like... I did. lol.

  • @gorillazhead I think I can find it for about $8 for 20 sheets of 14" x 17" through Dick Blick's.

  • What's the song please?

  • Children by Robert Miles

  • @iieek Thanks for helping out TheSupremeMarine in my absence. :) Hopefully I'll be better at assiting in the future, but I greatly appreciate you offering up the assist when I was M.I.A. :)

  • @TheSupremeMarine Children by Robert Miles.

  • Kool work...now, buy a Wacom Cintiq for faster results and more fun !

  • @CA7LOS you know, I used a wacom tablet for 5 or 6 years but I'm in the process now of switching to bristol and brushes because the process feels so much more natural, smooth, and relaxing - the plastic-on-plastic feel of a tablet pen just doesnt feel right. I think it really depends on the person and their style and comfort as to whether its "more fun" or not... Not that people dont create amazing stuff with Cintiqs of course ;)

  • @jabbiesir

    Ah yes, totally agree with you.

    Keep up the good work !

    :-)

  • @jabbiesir Yeah. Great inks can be done on a Wacom tablet (and much more so on the Cintiqs), but there's something about that brush flowing over the bristol board that just can't quite be matched. :)

  • @CA7LOS HA! I wish I had that kind of money to throw around! Maybe after I get my college loans paid off. lol.

  • Hi! Amazing work!!! Do you use the normal size one or the one for miniatures? Thanks. A.

  • wowo wow!!!

  • pretty incredible, I can understand how brush+ink is better than pen but it must require some dedication to those details. does that hurt your hand at all with having to focus and control the brush so much?

  • great stuff!

  • damned i got me dizzy turning the paper back n fort!

  • Awesome work. I'm a beginner in comic book inking, I just finished inking the first page of a comic series I'm working on. I've been debating on using brushes for my work, so far I've used a technical pen, the kind used in manga. And I've used a marker or the heavy dark areas, which would be more easier to use? Technical pens or brushes?

  • Brush and ink definitely looks more natural and the strokes and lines have much more flow than just about any other technique. That said, it takes a great deal of experience with brush and ink to get the speed and weight of line that you want each time - it depends on subtle flicks of the wrist. You can end up making horrible mistakes on final artwork if you're not experienced.

    But that said - nothing else looks as good.

  • @DarthNagrul Technical pens are easier. But the quality isn't as good with a brush. With a brush you can get much crisper and more lively effects with it than with a technical pen. I use technical pens, but only for now because I'm currently in the process of learning to use the brush. When you get good at it it'll be soooooo much better for you to use a brush. So practice and practice, you won't regret it.;D

  • It only depends on which one suits you more. I use both. Pen is faster and easier to handle, brushing gives you softer and darker lines.

  • brilliant

  • Oh wow awesome inking!! i also love to draw, i draw manga, i usually ink with nib pens like G, Maru and Saji, yesterday i bought few of those brushes, they are awesome, it's a really great work the inking with a brush, nice art bro!!!

    BY the way, what is the name of the song? AWESOME SONG I LOVE IT

  • what is that pen called i want to get one. This is amazing!

  • I think that is a brush bro, but really fine ;D

    Peace.

  • Damn..What happens if you do a mistake...Must suck..

  • white ink

  • thats cool how you ink. much respect. I teach myself how to draw since I cant afford to pay 30 grand for digital media

  • so you basically have to restart the drawing when inking?

  • @Wachusay In a manner of speaking... yes and no. lol. Basically, you are going back over the lines that you want to keep from the drawing, but you're also varying line widths, adding textures, and sometimes correcting issues that the penciler didn't address. Some people like to claim that inkers are just tracers, but ask any pro penciler what his favorite inker does, and they won' say "trace my lines". There's a lot that goes into it, but it's a bit hard to explain without working in it.

  • @TheColeDawg ard i get what you mean. Thanks.

  • DUDE!!!! what courses did u take or what kind of things helped you draw like that? I mean thats perfect *clap* *clap* *clap* I draw with ink and all those things with my art gift but would love some advices from a professional lol

  • Thanks for the compliment! :D As for courses, I went to Spring Arbor University where I studied art in several forms, but I'd have to say that the drawing classes and the painting classes were the most beneficial. But my REAL education came from working in a studio with guys like Nelson Blake, and sometimes Serge Lapointe. My best teacher I've never met face to face, and that would be the incredible Robert Armstrong. I'd email him links to my inks and he would break it all down for me. :)

  • Wow thanks a lot and yea I hope i get to see more of your work its incredible and hopefully grow up to become a comic book artist, im only 14 though but I think for my age i can draw pretty good comic characters (made-up and some original) but yea I hope to read some comics with your name on it your doing a great job drawing keep it up

  • If all medical surgeons had hand control like this, operations would be less risky.

  • HAHAHAHA!!! I bet surgeons wish they had white ink to correct their mistakes too. lol. Thanks a ton for the compliment. :D

  • i think for me the most interesting part is the fact that you do nigh all brush strokes ¨towards yourself¨, if you know what i mean; you turn the page around a lot, something that can only be clumslily done when working with a graphical tablet and digital inks, unless one happens to own a cintiq of course ;D

  • Oh how I so very wish I could afford a Cintiq. lol. That would be like my dream piece of hardware. Maybe in a few years. lol. I do tend to make my brush strokes all towards myself. I just have a better feel for it that way. Some guys make almost all their strokes away from themselves, but it all just depends on how it works for you. :) And of course that means I'm a virtual spin doctor with the paper. :-P

  • So what do you do once you ink it?

  • Once it's inked, it goes off to a colorist. The to a letter-er who adds the word balloons, type, etc. And then (after a few looks by the editor along the way) goes off to press and into stores. You probably had the rest of that figured out of course. ;)

  • Yeah I actually was wondering if they put the inking into a computer and if so how?

  • Ah. Well, (as you may have already guessed) they take a very high definition scan of the inks to send to the colorist. Usually going over them to clean up any smudges, streaks, etc. Some inkers scan their work themselves to do the clean-up and maybe even add an effect or two. I know I've sometimes used Photoshop to place a perfect circle, fill in huge black areas, or making panel boxes. I also do some digital inking with Adobe Illustrator, but that tends to take a lot of time.

  • I see! Thanks a lot for the thorough description.

  • you did that with no pencil lines? Holy crap that's awesome. Your lines are so clean and awesome, I would have messed that up my first try especially since it was with a real brush and not photoshop lol.

  • Heh, well there is at least a light non-photo blue type of line work for me to follow. :) A good print of the pencils in that color works best for those times you can't get the actual pencils into the studio. Oh, and thanks for the compliments! :D It took me a LONG time to get to the point where I could control a brush well enough to not be all jittery and such. :)

  • yea, I suffer from jitters and if I start doing well I some how mess up. I'm still new at it but I'm working on getting better. Again, Nice job! :D

  • There are pencil lines, there done in a light blue, you just have to look closely but the doesn't diminish his skill, I surely can't use brushes that well. He's so steady with it.