Underrated 4x4 by many, I have a slightly modified one and it performs just as well as any Land Rover or a Toyota in off road conditions.
Going through blizzards (REAL blizzards), flooding areas (caused by volcanic activities), going through deep and strong rivers etc. Plus it doesn't take two parking spaces.
As I said, mine is modified (bigger tires etc.) and i still take no more space than most cars. You just have to know how to drive a vehicle like this one (also in urban areas).
@seltjorn1 As long as you stay on a road, anything with 4 wheel drive will do the job. If you need a little more lift, stick on some "big wheels" as you have. Its when you go off-road, specifically for great distances or when you go into remote areas that you will wish you brought something a little more serious.
erm...I do go offroad regularly on my Musso. As I said through deep glacial rivers (outside of roads), flooding from a volcano erupting under a glacier (there is no road under such conditions, even if it had been one, a concrete one even, it would have been swept away like nothing).
Dude, Iceland is 70% remote areas. Driving on glaciers, up mountainsides and I'm talking about REAL blizzards. Any road in those conditions are far too deep under snow (I'm talking several meters!).
@seltjorn1 Yes, I understand the purpose of bigger tires. So you drove your Musso through several meter deep fresh snow drifts? I am impressed, I did not think any wheeled vehicle could move through an area under several meters of snow. Likewise I am very impressed that you have found a vehicle that can pass a road in flood flow conditions capable of lifting a concrete surface. As always, it is hard to judge 'what is good', maybe the Musso does exactly what you want, making it what you want.
Damn, I'm not sure if sarcastic or not. Sorry sir but it's hard detect such things over the internet. But yeah, to each his own I guess.
I've driven this and that vehicle and they have their cons and defects. The Musso is not perfect, I'm not meaning that (the S-Korean part of it kinda stinks, like the electrical systems get shaky in -10 or 20°C conditions, but the engine and chassis is both strong).
Like even a small Suzuki Jimni, it's light and doesn't sink in the snow.
@seltjorn1 Hey Seltjorn, sorry if anything I am saying is coming across as sarcastic, angry or trolling. A mix of language barriers and word limits makes it easy to get that mixed up. I think its great if you have a vehicle that you are happy with, if you like it, thats all that counts. Also, my original comment was meant to read that anything with 4 wheel drive and a bit of clearance can do just about anything that any other vehicle can do unless its something really hardcore (really off road)
@seltjorn1 So to be clear, I was also commenting on people who say that the "Musso must be terrible" as Land Cruisers or G-Wagons can't really do that much more (if any more). The only possible reason why you would NEED something MORE off-road orientated than a Musso would be if you were really going OFF road and then even a Land Cruiser probably needs some modifications (And still wont be all that much better). Reliability and serviceability are usually my main concern off-road.
I see, I completely missed your point then, and for that I apologize.
Modifications are definitely key to a vehicle's survivability while Off Road, that and of course how well the driver handles the vehicle, if the driver is happy with the vehicle and is able to make it work in most or any circumstances then that's great.
At least we end this on a positive note, too many YouTube comments end up in non-sensical raging.
@seltjorn1 Incidentally, what I mean by remote is mostly my experience from living in Australia and SA (Now that I am back in the Netherlands, remote is the local football field). Remote is places like the Simpson Desert (Nearly twice the size of Iceland, all deep sand, population of 0) the Great Sandy Desert, nearly 3 times the size of Iceland, population of about 100. Both of these deserts are Adventure tourists attractions with some locals living in the middle of them, take a few day to cross
Ok, I'm impressed by that, for sure. A challenge I would like to experience myself. It would be a different experience from the snow and ice since my Musso is modified for those conditions, so it's heavy (2.5+ tons). It might sink in the sand (if I don't deflate the tires enough).
Yeah, Iceland is small.
Something I'd like to try is the Road of Bones, in Russia. My jeep might not survive that, but it would be a worthy death for it
May I ask, out of curiosity, what vehicle you used?
@seltjorn1 I was in Australia in the mid 90s (not that much has changed in the market), at the time in Australia you could really only choose between the Toyota Land Cruiser or the Nissan Patrol. The reason for this was not so much that they were the 'best' for the conditions (they might have been...) but that you could get parts and service for them in the outback. In AUS, when in the more remote areas you rely on the Stations (BIG farms) for supplies and they only had these vehicle makes.
@seltjorn1 In South Africa I had a Defender, it was a good vehicle, when it was working.... haha. I would be hesitant to buy another Defender, not that it left me stranded anywhere. The Road of Bones is definitely a dream of mine as well, I would like to try it on a motorcycle (Ewan McGregor style). Even if you or your vehicle don't make it all the way it would still be a fantastic trip, can't ask for much more. By the way, I think the new Land Cruisers are too big, medium size 4x4 is better.
Definitely agree with you there on all terms (especially about the medium size 4x4, too big= too heavy for many conditions -if the tires aren't made to match at least, like the Antarctica trucks that Arctic Trucks make).
Also, no worries on my misunderstanding of your intent in that earlier reply, I wanted to avoid jumping the gun with the wrong assumptions like my government has repeatedly done, because of language barriers (as English isn't the first language of either one of us).
i dont like mussos because of their style and the looks but i like the way it roars ive got a musso ssangyong in white heh :) with murcedes benz engine
It sucks compared to this, well, it's definitely a completely different program. I wish they'd remember what the program was about when they start changing it.
The gadget show sucks now, and TopGear I would dread to see follow.
I don't like these cars, every night the women who worked next door to us owned one & every night she'd knock on the door & ask me to move my car "as it was blocking hers in". One evening she came in all apologetic as she had scraped my car (a Ford Fiesta) trying to get out of the works car park (which is very small)..she should of passed a H.G.V test to drive the thing, as it was so damned massive, it took up two parking spaces!
Ok not the nicest looker but i think it has a certain charm about it. back when this was made I actually hope my folks ould get one. A fast different looking big 4x4. What more does a wee lad want lol.
dumbass what is this??
trying so hard to put down cheap car comparing with Range Rover??
i feel sorry for these ppl
chewchewg 4 months ago
wtf? that thing looks pretty sweet and I wish we had them in the us
5cylcoupe 8 months ago
Underrated 4x4 by many, I have a slightly modified one and it performs just as well as any Land Rover or a Toyota in off road conditions.
Going through blizzards (REAL blizzards), flooding areas (caused by volcanic activities), going through deep and strong rivers etc. Plus it doesn't take two parking spaces.
As I said, mine is modified (bigger tires etc.) and i still take no more space than most cars. You just have to know how to drive a vehicle like this one (also in urban areas).
seltjorn1 9 months ago
@seltjorn1 As long as you stay on a road, anything with 4 wheel drive will do the job. If you need a little more lift, stick on some "big wheels" as you have. Its when you go off-road, specifically for great distances or when you go into remote areas that you will wish you brought something a little more serious.
vanRijn64 4 months ago
@vanRijn64
erm...I do go offroad regularly on my Musso. As I said through deep glacial rivers (outside of roads), flooding from a volcano erupting under a glacier (there is no road under such conditions, even if it had been one, a concrete one even, it would have been swept away like nothing).
Dude, Iceland is 70% remote areas. Driving on glaciers, up mountainsides and I'm talking about REAL blizzards. Any road in those conditions are far too deep under snow (I'm talking several meters!).
seltjorn1 4 months ago
@seltjorn1 Yes, I understand the purpose of bigger tires. So you drove your Musso through several meter deep fresh snow drifts? I am impressed, I did not think any wheeled vehicle could move through an area under several meters of snow. Likewise I am very impressed that you have found a vehicle that can pass a road in flood flow conditions capable of lifting a concrete surface. As always, it is hard to judge 'what is good', maybe the Musso does exactly what you want, making it what you want.
vanRijn64 4 months ago
@vanRijn64
Damn, I'm not sure if sarcastic or not. Sorry sir but it's hard detect such things over the internet. But yeah, to each his own I guess.
I've driven this and that vehicle and they have their cons and defects. The Musso is not perfect, I'm not meaning that (the S-Korean part of it kinda stinks, like the electrical systems get shaky in -10 or 20°C conditions, but the engine and chassis is both strong).
Like even a small Suzuki Jimni, it's light and doesn't sink in the snow.
seltjorn1 4 months ago
@seltjorn1 Hey Seltjorn, sorry if anything I am saying is coming across as sarcastic, angry or trolling. A mix of language barriers and word limits makes it easy to get that mixed up. I think its great if you have a vehicle that you are happy with, if you like it, thats all that counts. Also, my original comment was meant to read that anything with 4 wheel drive and a bit of clearance can do just about anything that any other vehicle can do unless its something really hardcore (really off road)
vanRijn64 4 months ago
@seltjorn1 So to be clear, I was also commenting on people who say that the "Musso must be terrible" as Land Cruisers or G-Wagons can't really do that much more (if any more). The only possible reason why you would NEED something MORE off-road orientated than a Musso would be if you were really going OFF road and then even a Land Cruiser probably needs some modifications (And still wont be all that much better). Reliability and serviceability are usually my main concern off-road.
vanRijn64 4 months ago
@vanRijn64
I see, I completely missed your point then, and for that I apologize.
Modifications are definitely key to a vehicle's survivability while Off Road, that and of course how well the driver handles the vehicle, if the driver is happy with the vehicle and is able to make it work in most or any circumstances then that's great.
At least we end this on a positive note, too many YouTube comments end up in non-sensical raging.
Your story from Australia and SA is interesting.
Farewell! :)
seltjorn1 4 months ago
@vanRijn64
Do a simple Google image search: "Icelandic Musso" and you should see some examples of what I'm talking about.
Also, bigger tires are mostly for the snow out here. Bigger tires = more ground clearance etc.
Musso performs just as well as any jeep in off road conditions. Any jeep (Musso, Toyota Hilux etc.) can perform well, it's the driver that counts.
My jeep is on 33" tires, and I've gone the same ways as any Land Cruiser, Mitsubishi or Nissan in that same size category.
seltjorn1 4 months ago
@seltjorn1 Incidentally, what I mean by remote is mostly my experience from living in Australia and SA (Now that I am back in the Netherlands, remote is the local football field). Remote is places like the Simpson Desert (Nearly twice the size of Iceland, all deep sand, population of 0) the Great Sandy Desert, nearly 3 times the size of Iceland, population of about 100. Both of these deserts are Adventure tourists attractions with some locals living in the middle of them, take a few day to cross
vanRijn64 4 months ago
@vanRijn64
Ok, I'm impressed by that, for sure. A challenge I would like to experience myself. It would be a different experience from the snow and ice since my Musso is modified for those conditions, so it's heavy (2.5+ tons). It might sink in the sand (if I don't deflate the tires enough).
Yeah, Iceland is small.
Something I'd like to try is the Road of Bones, in Russia. My jeep might not survive that, but it would be a worthy death for it
May I ask, out of curiosity, what vehicle you used?
seltjorn1 4 months ago
@seltjorn1 I was in Australia in the mid 90s (not that much has changed in the market), at the time in Australia you could really only choose between the Toyota Land Cruiser or the Nissan Patrol. The reason for this was not so much that they were the 'best' for the conditions (they might have been...) but that you could get parts and service for them in the outback. In AUS, when in the more remote areas you rely on the Stations (BIG farms) for supplies and they only had these vehicle makes.
vanRijn64 4 months ago
@seltjorn1 In South Africa I had a Defender, it was a good vehicle, when it was working.... haha. I would be hesitant to buy another Defender, not that it left me stranded anywhere. The Road of Bones is definitely a dream of mine as well, I would like to try it on a motorcycle (Ewan McGregor style). Even if you or your vehicle don't make it all the way it would still be a fantastic trip, can't ask for much more. By the way, I think the new Land Cruisers are too big, medium size 4x4 is better.
vanRijn64 4 months ago
@vanRijn64
Definitely agree with you there on all terms (especially about the medium size 4x4, too big= too heavy for many conditions -if the tires aren't made to match at least, like the Antarctica trucks that Arctic Trucks make).
Also, no worries on my misunderstanding of your intent in that earlier reply, I wanted to avoid jumping the gun with the wrong assumptions like my government has repeatedly done, because of language barriers (as English isn't the first language of either one of us).
seltjorn1 4 months ago
hideous looking thing..
discocreator76 11 months ago
Long life MAHINDRA SSANGYONG!!!!!
streesmut70 1 year ago
se ve muy anticuado la verdad
cr2308h 1 year ago
i dont like mussos because of their style and the looks but i like the way it roars ive got a musso ssangyong in white heh :) with murcedes benz engine
therichguy319 1 year ago
@therichguy319 ha my mam has the same white 1997 3.2 :L
Mrphonewizz 1 year ago
HELL YEAH ive got a musso ssangyong in white heh :) with murcedes benz engine
therichguy319 1 year ago
THIS IS HOW TOPGEAR SHOULD BE!
WTF IS THE NEW ONE?
It sucks compared to this, well, it's definitely a completely different program. I wish they'd remember what the program was about when they start changing it.
The gadget show sucks now, and TopGear I would dread to see follow.
nformby 1 year ago 2
@nformby
maybe try watching Fifth Gear, its basically this old version of Top Gear.
TheVdubFire 11 months ago
Ssangyongs are just so poorly designed.
jabajabamaster 1 year ago
I don't like these cars, every night the women who worked next door to us owned one & every night she'd knock on the door & ask me to move my car "as it was blocking hers in". One evening she came in all apologetic as she had scraped my car (a Ford Fiesta) trying to get out of the works car park (which is very small)..she should of passed a H.G.V test to drive the thing, as it was so damned massive, it took up two parking spaces!
linearskater 2 years ago
Ok not the nicest looker but i think it has a certain charm about it. back when this was made I actually hope my folks ould get one. A fast different looking big 4x4. What more does a wee lad want lol.
paulwlynch 2 years ago